Korean Agency and Independent

[QUOTE=FfxJoseph;7485907]I saw Yeri today. First, the good. While her pictures are not her, they are a fair representation. She has MM D's, has a nice body (not a spinner), and has a cute face. The site says it's her first time in USA, so that could contribute to her performance. Overall, for me, she was just OK. No hug or kiss at door or in room. Blue toast and most of shower was all business. She did provide a quick BBBJ preview in shower, but even after that no LFK or other groping, just a "all done? There is the towel". The rest of the session followed the same pattern. Once back in room, she asked me to lie down (I followed her lead and tried to be as nice and polite as possible) and she started a very good BBBJ. It seemed to me she was trying her best to get me to pop quick. I asked if she could move to 69, but she jumped into CG instead. A few very brief LF Kisses and then she layed down on me which made it so we would be neck and neck, therefore making more kissing a no-go. She did move well and felt nice. I asked her to switch up and asked to perform DATY (which I like to do and usually get good vibes from the ladies for). She said OK. She then pushed her legs down which made it basically a moot point (limited access, awkward, etc.). I moved instead to mish and finished there. After the deed, she used some wipes to clean us up and excused herself to the restroom to clean up a bit more. She came back and offered a massage, which I accepted. Some small talk was pleasant. She had me flip and she initiated another BBBJ, which again was very nice. I asked her to move up and asked if we could kiss a bit. Instead she mounted again in cg with the laying down approach. Again, she moved her hips well and it did feel nice, but I would have preferred her sitting up more, kissing more, etc. I asked to switch to mish and was doing my best in that position. With about 15 min left, she said "short on time, lets get you showered"..[/QUOTE]Wouldn't take it personally based on your looks at all.

A lot of these girls are actually really insecure so I doubt it the way you look.

I talked to some girls that told me they prefer much older since the young guys trying to bang them out.

Also you don't know if she was just having a shitty day (of course shouldn't hurt her job as we all have to perform at our job despite having shitty days).

I even had one real popular girl which I'm sure most of you know that treated me like shit the first time I saw her.

[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;7486153]I would disagree on "how you look doesn't matter. " These girls are humans with real emotions and feelings. Not saying OP is ugly or disgusting, but if for whatever reason he may have just not clicked with her.

Back when I was living in Germany, I had been rejected by a girl in a brothel, kicked to the curb by a 10+ beauty queen. I have seen girls reject guys as well. One in particular she asked me to sit with her on her couch to "cock block" a "disgusting, ugly man" she didn't want to go with.

I have read reviews of girls that give guy "A" stellar service and guy "B" gets processed. Again happened to me as well. At a different brothel in Germany, a fairly new to the game 22 yo blonde hair blue eyes spinner was letting guys cum inside her, giving it up raw. I went to room with her and she told me "condom only", needless to say I terminated the date and paid her the 50 and moved on. Went with a different girl and creampied her on the couch right across from the other girl. The second girl got several repeat rooms, then the first girl wanted to see me on subsequent visits and I turned her down.

Bottom line if a girl thinks you are "ugly" by her standards or something else don't think your experience will be the same as a 10+ body builder stud.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I think that your looks matter, maybe more so with providers that aren't as experienced. Professional providers probably not as much (they have for sure seen some shit). Personality and how well you vibe with each other is also a big part, sometimes more important. It all depends on the girl, maybe she had a bad day, maybe she's got a thing for a different ethnicity, maybe she's just shit. Still appreciate any and all reviews.

Not saying that you need to be high tier in the looks department to participate in the hobby. At the bare minimum keep up with your personal hygiene, don't be smelling gross and unkept, everyone can do that. Make the ladies jobs easier to service you, so that you get better service.

[QUOTE=Drunkie15;7486388]Agreed. I think that your looks matter, maybe more so with providers that aren't as experienced. Professional providers probably not as much (they have for sure seen some shit). Personality and how well you vibe with each other is also a big part, sometimes more important. It all depends on the girl, maybe she had a bad day, maybe she's got a thing for a different ethnicity, maybe she's just shit. Still appreciate any and all reviews.

Not saying that you need to be high tier in the looks department to participate in the hobby. At the bare minimum keep up with your personal hygiene, don't be smelling gross and unkept, everyone can do that. Make the ladies jobs easier to service you, so that you get better service.[/QUOTE]No offense but you can't compare German girls to Korean it's two totally different cultures.

Also the majority of the Korean girls it may be their first time in America but a lot already been doing this in Canada and Aulstrailia.

Even if they haven't these girls have worked at room salon where you pay them to drink with you and they feel you up.

So they used to seeing ugly old fat dood it's nothing new for them.

Thanks Download. I had been jonesing for something more than my usual PG county AMP action, and your descriptions sealed it for me. I have a good trek to get to CPU's apartment, so it's nice to have some decent assurances of a worthwhile trip. I had wanted to book Baby, but she is all booked up in advance, so I booked Viki with no regrets. I prioritize service and a good figure (especially spinner body) over a face or age. There was no mention of DFK for Viki, which is a nice addition, so I will find out and comment back here.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7482997]CPU currently has two kgirls I recognize. [B]Baby Iu[/B] is young with good service. Face is up to taste, body is really great. [B]Viki[/B] is a more mature spinner, her body is also really good and she is a service queen with skills. Both girls love dick, just start slow for a good time. I'd repeat both of them. I've been waiting for Baby Iu to rotate Socal a very long time, so feel free to cuck me on this one.

[B]Baby Iu[/B] is a young kgirl with good service, body is great and face up to taste. High tier pussy, good ass and figure, good long bbbj, lots of kissing. Ass archetype 007:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=779670&d=1752710869[/URL] Ass 007
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7344128&viewfull=1#post7344128[/URL] Ass Archetypes

[B]Viki[/B] - Petite spinner body, C cup MMs, round ass, body feels great, GND face, mature, body over face, tanned, good service, deepthroats. Playful, good attitude, good style, decent English. Her body looks and feels great. She can bbbj a long time with good technique. Hair dyed brown. I repeat her for her good body, attitude, skills.

I also recognize MRB [B]Emma[/B], she is Japanese with great English and attitude. She is about 5'0". Responds well to everything I tried.

All three girls are service over looks, with Baby Iu being the youngest. Emma and Viki have especially good attitude and service. Viki is the most experienced. All three girls have pretty good pussy. I have my approach to girls to make them feel safe and comfortable, it helps us get along and then they let me go to town. Baby Iu and Viki know kgirl style service well. All three girls respond pretty well to foreplay. When you use proper foreplay, more girls love your dick inside them. For those interested:

[B]General Foreplay and Progression[/B]
Some girls like to kiss, some like to be kissed at different parts, some like their breasts and nipples stimulated, some like their pussy stimulated or eaten. Every girl is very different, but almost all have some part they like you to work on for foreplay. Some proper foreplay will ensure a lot more girls love your dick in them. When first entering a girl, start slow. The pussy gets aroused the same as a penis, and it can take a few minutes for bloodflow to expand the pussy. A good pussy will adapt to your size over time, then no problem. When switching to doggy, start slow again.

Even though every girl is very different, when you repeat the same girl her "password" is generally the same. Like magic, you can unlock a girl consistently on repeats by remembering what she likes. Exactly the same for girls who remember what a guy likes.

Arousal matters. I have seen one girl who could only fit me 2 inches my first visit, she was brand new and nervous. But my second visit, she could take it all. This is why a girl needs to feel safe and comfortable, and then foreplay will do its work. Men are the same, if they are stressed or nervous it can cause performance issues.

[B]Eating Pussy[/B]
Below I'll expand on how to eat a girl's pussy (DATY) if you choose to do it. About 80%-90% of girls enjoy proper DATY, so make sure she is comfortable with it. A few experienced girls will even help you by rocking or swirling their body, which is always a good sign. If you are a beginner, I would practice on a fully shaved girl. "Full bush" is for experts.

The clitoris can be very sensitive, so don't attack it hard or direct right away. Use low and gentle pressure, work around it first rather than directly. Watch and listen to her reaction for clues. The clit tends to start "hidden", which is a good thing due to its sensitivity. You have to build trust and comfort, get the blood flowing to do more. If you have ever been given a bbbj that was too hard too soon, it's the same thing. Start extra gentle if you're not sure.

A quick anatomy summary: The most visible part, the clitoral glans, is a small, button-like area of flesh at the top of the vulva. It is protected by the clitoral hood, which is a fold of skin.. When normal people say clitoris or clit they just mean the exposed part of the whole organ. The hood is analogous to the male foreskin.

Like a bbbj, it is as much psychological as physical. Even your breath and your approach makes a big difference. There are entire books written on it and I've read them to compare notes. About the psychological aspect, give her an understanding of what you'll do, and watch her reaction as you do it. No rushing or surprising. Periodically check on her reaction. If she is helping you with it or obviously enjoying it, she probably wants you to continue. Your tongue motions can be back and forth or circular. Don't focus too much on just the clit, especially at the start. A few minutes of this it will get the blood flowing. There are many techniques and "phases" go to longer, but these are the basics to help a girl get aroused to receive your dick after. It not only helps women get wet, but expands their pussy and prepares it for sex.

When in doubt, don't overdo it. It is the thought that counts. For those who aren't into DATY, you can give a gentle rub too. If you shave, make sure you dont' have fresh and hard stubble that would irritate her.

[B]Ad photos[/B]
Attached are Baby Iu and Viki's ad photos. They have the usual korg PS. MRB Emma's first ad is pretty close, she is a bit thick and a fun time.

I looked carefully through NYC's kgirl options and don't recognize any of them. So on the bright side, you might have better kgirl choices than them. All the girls are very repeatable as far as service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BMoreDog69;7487371]Thanks Download. I had been jonesing for something more than my usual PG county AMP action, and your descriptions sealed it for me. I have a good trek to get to CPU's apartment, so it's nice to have some decent assurances of a worthwhile trip. I had wanted to book Baby, but she is all booked up in advance, so I booked Viki with no regrets. I prioritize service and a good figure (especially spinner body) over a face or age. There was no mention of DFK for Viki, which is a nice addition, so I will find out and comment back here.[/QUOTE]I myself don't aim for DFK but most guys in Socal agree she is a service queen so you should get it. She was enthusiastic and attacking me with me on defense. I keep an open mind, always feel free to share your thoughts. Don't worry about what others say, a variety of opinions helps everyone. I always believe in collecting many reviews, then it helps people really figure it out and keep it real.

For example, I considered Hani last year a top tier service queen and lots of people agreed with that part. Or you could even say, the best service queen who is not MILF (40+). People who saw hear a year apart noticed a significant improvement too. But face was YMMV and GND. I was on the side of she is hot, she looked like my college crush. Others were not. It seemed evenly divided based on GND face preference. Viki is also GND face, but when you get good service and get the girl to smile it matters. Both girls smile when I eat their pussy and find the right pace with them. I still remember Viki's vocal feedback now, it is nice. So you could say I'd prefer a girl like Hani with her attitude and smile over a typical HYA if she were not smiling for example. But each guy has a different idea what they want, and that's why it's important to say so and keep realistic expectations. Some guys are "face first" so they want DDG (Drop Dead Gorgeous - model-like features) rather than GND (normal features). But DDG is rare, even in Socal it's 10% tops. It is lower in Nova.

I normally am "looks first" but I also like spinner bodies and Viki has a good one. Service is good and she enjoys sex. That combined with a good spinner body are two checkboxes for me to see a service queen. Most of the time I hunt for HYA who are younger but simply lack service. It is a trade-off. Hope you have a nice time too.

[QUOTE=FfxJoseph;7485907]I saw Yeri today. First, the good. While her pictures are not her, they are a fair representation. She has MM D's, has a nice body (not a spinner), and has a cute face. The site says it's her first time in USA, so that could contribute to her performance. Overall, for me, she was just OK. No hug or kiss at door or in room. Blue toast and most of shower was all business. She did provide a quick BBBJ preview in shower, but even after that no LFK or other groping, just a "all done? There is the towel". The rest of the session followed the same pattern. Once back in room, she asked me to lie down (I followed her lead and tried to be as nice and polite as possible) and she started a very good BBBJ. It seemed to me she was trying her best to get me to pop quick. I asked if she could move to 69, but she jumped into CG instead. A few very brief LF Kisses and then she layed down on me which made it so we would be neck and neck, therefore making more kissing a no-go. She did move well and felt nice. I asked her to switch up and asked to perform DATY (which I like to do and usually get good vibes from the ladies for). She said OK. She then pushed her legs down which made it basically a moot point (limited access, awkward, etc.). I moved instead to mish and finished there. After the deed, she used some wipes to clean us up and excused herself to the restroom to clean up a bit more. She came back and offered a massage, which I accepted. Some small talk was pleasant. She had me flip and she initiated another BBBJ, which again was very nice. I asked her to move up and asked if we could kiss a bit. Instead she mounted again in cg with the laying down approach. Again, she moved her hips well and it did feel nice, but I would have preferred her sitting up more, kissing more, etc. I asked to switch to mish and was doing my best in that position. With about 15 min left, she said "short on time, lets get you showered". I didn't finish round 2. I was out the door with 10 minutes on the clock (1 hour session) and I didn't get the OK to go in from booker until a little after the hour. All in, I would say I got about 48 minutes of my 60 minute session.

Overall, this could be a YMMV situation. I am an old, slightly overweight, nerdy dude. I know I can't do much for these lovely ladies. But, I have gotten amazing service with amazing IOP from many other ladies, including Baby IU last week. It could be that Yeri is just new and nervous, it could be I'm just too ugly, I don't know. Looks for me = 8, service for me is a "not repeat".[/QUOTE]Matches my experience. Pretty business like. Hit all of offerings. Kissing was pecks and a bit forced. Had to stay away from neck and shoulders. Too ticklish. Out 5 minutes early. YMMV. Not a repeat for me.

I have been at this for 30 some years and seen some pretty amazing ladies. After the KAAMP shutdown in MD I was left with Tysons, which is an hour drive, on a good day. Needless to say, I don't make the trek too often. I have seen a number of ladies at CPU, and some that have been described here as service queens. None of them were anything like Viki.

Key thing to remember, what I like and what you like may vary, so I am going to add more detail here than I normally would. I should also add that Viki had me, and kept me, harder than I have experienced in a while, and my only regret was not booking 90 minutes. I would have loved to try a second round with her.

DFK at the door, and she knows how to DFK, especially compared to many K-ladies. Full lips and tongue actively engaged with mine. Pressing up against me and lightly dry humping. Off to the room, more kissing and undressing for the shower. Viki has an average, unobjectionable face, but her figure is damned near perfect for me. Short and petite, with a curvy ass and very well dome man-made C's. You can tell, but they are spectacular. Viki is petite, and has just enough meat and muscle to be firm and sexy, but not skinny. She has the body of a 25 year old. All throughout, there was more DFK and roaming hands and probing fingers.

Blue toast and shower. No BJ preview, but the soapy was great. As she was washing my back, Viki would reach between my legs to give junior a soapy stroke or two, and as she would pull her hand back, she would lightly scratch the sack with her nails. Lot's of DFK and roaming hands and fingers. It's becoming apparent Viki will be vocal.

Back in the room, I sit at the edge of the bed as we DFK, I feed on her amazing C's and play between her legs. She eventually drops down for what can only be described as an exceptional BBBJ with DT. Now, DTing me is not going to win any lady a prize, but Viki had me hitting the back of her throat, and worried that I might not last. I brought her back up to sit on my lap as we bumped and rubbed P2 P. I picked VIki up and laid her on the bed and moved down for DATY. Lot's of vocalization, to the point of being a bit over the top. Viki just kept getting wetter and wetter until I added a couple fingers and feasted for I don't know how long. Eventually coming up for air, and rubbing P2 P before going in while standing. I pulled out for more BBBJ and then got onto the bed to have her continue DTBBBJ. I had to stop her, and she hopped on for CG until I stopped her again and move to a CG / P2 P session. With time winding down I moved her up for more DATY and the got behind for K9, and finished there.

There was a quick cleanup followed by a much better than average massage. In fact it was better than many therapeutic massages, if not as thorough. Back to the shower for more fun cleanup, teasing about a second round. All in all, from door to door, Viki never stopped trying to please me, but not in a pushy way. It felt quite natural and as close to being a believable performance as you can reasonably expect. The best thing I can say is that I'm contemplating a repeat visit, with the 2+ hours of driving, before she leaves.

I can't believe I haven't scrolled down and seen this forum earlier. Would someone send me a list of sites for the DMV area? I'm also interested in details like screening and I'd requirements. Many of these girls look too good to pass up. Candy Girl looks great for some other cities too.

[QUOTE=BMoreDog69;7488636]I have been at this for 30 some years and seen some pretty amazing ladies. After the KAAMP shutdown in MD I was left with Tysons, which is an hour drive, on a good day. Needless to say, I don't make the trek too often. I have seen a number of ladies at CPU, and some that have been described here as service queens. None of them were anything like Viki.[/QUOTE]

Great to hear. If guys find their type of girl and win, they tend to review and then more guys will know what to look for and also win. Then more girls matching that standard show up. It's why I bothered to review Baby Iu, Viki, and Emma. They're not for every guy. But if I describe them accurately the right guy will find them. I don't want guys to waste money, so I point out girls I think are in the top 25%. This is the most polite and harmless way to weed out the bottom tier girls. The bottom 25% are simply free to leave and work a lower standard market.

I will add some notes on both Viki and driving tips. First, Viki is a service queen by Socal standards. Kind of middle of the pack. As for looks she is a petite spinner with a very nice body, face is GND and not the main attraction. She is fit and well-toned. If you do things right with her, she is very vocal and it was a big plus for me on repeats.

[QUOTE=Download X;7482997][B]Viki[/B] - Petite spinner body, C cup MMs, round ass, body feels great, GND face, mature, body over face, tanned, good service, deepthroats. Playful, good attitude, good style, decent English. Her body looks and feels great. She can bbbj a long time with good technique. Hair dyed brown. I repeat her for her good body, attitude, skills.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=7482997#post7482997[/URL] Baby Iu, Viki, Emma

[B]Service over Looks[/B]
Like Hani (retired), Viki is service over looks and body over face. There is probably some overlap in fan-base. Guys see Hani and Viki for service and connection as the main attraction, they aren't seeing them for their face even though they are normal GND faces. I even thought Hani was hot (I listed her as B-Tier = "good looking") and her tits were high tier, but some guys need a certain level of face. So it is better to warn people a girl has a good body but okay face, so that true fans find her instead. Those are the guys that repeat a girl and bring more girls like them in the future.

I repeated Viki many times because she's good in bed, she can get 2 shots out of me. She knows what she's doing, and her body is high tier. So I see her for high service.

[B]Looks and Service[/B]
Generally speaking, girls are "looks first" or "service first". Viki and Emma are firmly in "service first", and their looks are good enough for me. Whereas for many jgirls, they are young and "looks first", and I like them if their service is good enough instead. Baby Iu is slightly "service first", her body is high tier but she is body over face. I really liked her, but I think one reason she is touring is competition is really tough in Socal as far as looks. So you can imagine if even a young girl with good body like her tours what it's like.

Lime is an even better example. She has a very good body and pretty good service. When she visits Socal, I do have her on my todo list but there are just 5-10 ATFs I need to see before her. Then she ends up leaving after maybe a week. I know friends who would love to repeat her, but exactly the same problem - she's not the very top of their list so she leaves before they get around to it. In that scenario, it's logical for her to do a quick stop in Socal for the "true fans" so to speak. It's not like Socal doesn't like her, she can just do much better elsewhere. She becomes a top 25% kgirl anywhere else.

Baby Arin is the same. She's a top 15% girl even in Socal, but she only works a few weeks in Socal now. There's too many other girls people want to see. But she can work months in other cities and do much better. Like selling water in a desert.

Some more Viki reviews:
[QUOTE=Pyhan83;7250366]She's a service queen up in LA. Good to see her going for a little tour. Amazing how many times she can make me cip. Enjoy OC mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smllbybgcck;7249738]Viki is a nice spinner. She likes what she does. Fun time and she loves it. Luckily she was able to extend my time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smllbybgcck;7260059]Me too. Multiple pops are the best. She got me to pop twice and can take a pounding. She can get loud. Good mouth and tries to deepthroat. Got me harder than normal.[/QUOTE]

Even among the girls who love sex, start slow to avoid injury. It can take a few minutes for girls to adapt to size. Starting slow and working your way up will help you have more fun.

[QUOTE=Heisenberg69;7264069]I saw Viki. The pic of her kneeling on the patio chair is most representative for me. I had a chance to see her many years ago. It was between her and a younger new girl. I went with younger it was a dud session. So she has always been the "what if" girl. Happy to see she is here and tried her out. She greeted me in a string bikini. I picked her up and carried her to the room. Tugged the panties to the side and went straight to it. Was difficult to get in at first. But finally did and first round was a good 15 minutes non stop. Finally popped first round with her in cowgirl with her panties still on. She showered and did a light massage. Took a bit of work to get me hard again and we went at it non stop till I was sweating and just couldn't pop. Showered and left got to my car in exactly one hour. She was fun.[/QUOTE]

Since I saw Viki too, I know the above reviews are accurate. Intel becomes a lot more obvious once you saw a girl, then you know which reviewers can help you next time. Notice people are just helping each other and reviewing a lot. Some from LA even generously passed on intel to OC so they'd have a heads up. As a courtsey, we don't go back to the LA thread and start posting a lot of basic questions when the threads are mainly for reviews. Just reading and researching carefully you'll figure it out anyways. Hope that makes sense.

[B]Driving[/B]
About driving one hour each way, it's sometimes the way to find the girl you want. I only drive if I have clear intel a girl is my type. The first time, focus on your route and not getting lost and driving safe. It's nice to have an audiobook. I always show up early to avoid the risk of being late. Extra early for a first time. Start early, and don't stress. If I reach there early, sometimes I park at a nice gas station a few minutes away. Some have a bathroom or I can catch up on emails and friends, fill up on gas. I keep dry snacks and drinks in the car for the drive, that's important too. If you get sleepy on the way back, find a safe parking lot or street and take a nap. The most important is to drive safely. It is actually the greatest risk of all in life and even this hobby. People don't realize it, but every close call among people I know has been simply driving.

If I have the day off, I drive around town and visit my favorite shops and restaurants. A mini vacation. But if I finished my appointment and feel tight on time, I'll grab a quick bite to eat. I'm not a fan of McDonald's, but they have a cheap and filling combo. For better or worse, their food is the least likely to upset or have foul odors. This makes it a reliable stop if you have a 2nd appointment after, I don't want girls to smell what I ate to the extent possible. Oh, McDonald's also have bathrooms! Starbucks too, they are an alternative to pick up a quick snack. This is all assuming time > money for you. For money, ideally you pack a healthy lunch, snacks, drinks.

[B]Nova for Kgirls[/B]
About weeding out bottom tier girls and raising standards. All you need to do is give accurate reviews, no need to hype or exaggerate just say what you got. Then guys can pick and choose a girl that will make him happy, consistently. We all have different opinions, and a variety of opinions is a good thing. People will figure it out, we all have different taste in women so we aren't supposed to agree. But when I say a girl is A-Tier, it's not like anyone finds her ugly or average. Usually, other people will say she is actually S-Tier or really just B-Tier. That is a huge gap from C through F Tier looks.

So if a few of us say "I actually like Hani's face" while others say "nope", you can reason that it's up to taste and if you're a "face sensitive" guy with high standards you'll need to keep looking. Other guys can try her and maybe find they really like her. I later found that the guys who liked Hani's face, I could easily recommend other GND face girls with good spinner bodies and they loved them too. Hope that makes sense, taste is consistent.

You could think of Nova as a Tier 2 kgirl city. It doesn't get a lot of kgirls, but sometimes gets decent ones surprisingly. Baby Arin, Lady Ari, Lime, Kora, Baby Iu, Hani, and others. There are much worse cities for kgirls btw! So there is a momentum you can build on when you point out the better kgirls that show up (top 25%), and guys finding and seeing them will bring more girls of that standard coming in.

Nova has some momentum, it just needs accurate reviews. After a certain level of reviewing, it's harder to shill simply because there's enough real reviews to make them look odd and out of place. And once you identify which reviewers match your taste, you naturally ignore other them anyways.

[QUOTE=Asphalt;7488972]I can't believe I haven't scrolled down and seen this forum earlier. Would someone send me a list of sites for the DMV area? I'm also interested in details like screening and I'd requirements. Many of these girls look too good to pass up. Candy Girl looks great for some other cities too.[/QUOTE]Well, you kind of hope not too many people notice. Slow growth is safer. It's possible to figure it out yourself by reading back enough. You could say AMPs are the nail that sticks out, and screening and discretion are built-in to korgs. In many States, korgs use common sense and don't bother the neighbors, so nobody cares. This varies State to State, so it is trial and error. A few States only prioritize streetwalkers and shops operating in the open. Which makes sense. When no one complains, it's not a problem.

[QUOTE=BMoreDog69;7488636]I have been at this for 30 some years and seen some pretty amazing ladies. After the KAAMP shutdown in MD I was left with Tysons, which is an hour drive, on a good day. Needless to say, I don't make the trek too often. I have seen a number of ladies at CPU, and some that have been described here as service queens. None of them were anything like Viki.

Key thing to remember, what I like and what you like may vary, so I am going to add more detail here than I normally would. I should also add that Viki had me, and kept me, harder than I have experienced in a while, and my only regret was not booking 90 minutes. I would have loved to try a second round with her.

DFK at the door, and she knows how to DFK, especially compared to many K-ladies. Full lips and tongue actively engaged with mine. Pressing up against me and lightly dry humping. Off to the room, more kissing and undressing for the shower. Viki has an average, unobjectionable face, but her figure is damned near perfect for me. Short and petite, with a curvy ass and very well dome man-made C's. You can tell, but they are spectacular. Viki is petite, and has just enough meat and muscle to be firm and sexy, but not skinny. She has the body of a 25 year old. All throughout, there was more DFK and roaming hands and probing fingers.

Blue toast and shower. No BJ preview, but the soapy was great. As she was washing my back, Viki would reach between my legs to give junior a soapy stroke or two, and as she would pull her hand back, she would lightly scratch the sack with her nails. Lot's of DFK and roaming hands and fingers. It's becoming apparent Viki will be vocal.

Back in the room, I sit at the edge of the bed as we DFK, I feed on her amazing C's and play between her legs. She eventually drops down for what can only be described as an exceptional BBBJ with DT. Now, DTing me is not going to win any lady a prize, but Viki had me hitting the back of her throat, and worried that I might not last. I brought her back up to sit on my lap as we bumped and rubbed P2 P. I picked VIki up and laid her on the bed and moved down for DATY. Lot's of vocalization, to the point of being a bit over the top. Viki just kept getting wetter and wetter until I added a couple fingers and feasted for I don't know how long. Eventually coming up for air, and rubbing P2 P before going in while standing. I pulled out for more BBBJ and then got onto the bed to have her continue DTBBBJ. I had to stop her, and she hopped on for CG until I stopped her again and move to a CG / P2 P session. With time winding down I moved her up for more DATY and the got behind for K9, and finished there.

There was a quick cleanup followed by a much better than average massage. In fact it was better than many therapeutic massages, if not as thorough. Back to the shower for more fun cleanup, teasing about a second round. All in all, from door to door, Viki never stopped trying to please me, but not in a pushy way. It felt quite natural and as close to being a believable performance as you can reasonably expect. The best thing I can say is that I'm contemplating a repeat visit, with the 2+ hours of driving, before she leaves.[/QUOTE]Same experience for me right down to the great massage. Seen her twice and will repeat. She's sexy as all get out.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7489145] In many States, korgs use common sense and don't bother the neighbors, so nobody cares. [/QUOTE]I had to chuckle a bit at this line. Years ago one of the local agencies had moved into a new location. Not terrible but a bit more "out in the open" type setting from the usual condo places. Basically the building entrance opened into a large foyer with a central staircase going up to the second floor and all the units making a bit of a you-shape around the entrance and staircase.

As you note, the agencies are very sensitive to attracting attention of the neighbors from noise and whatnot. I arrived, door opens and, of course, I take my shoes off. The floors are all hard flooring so the girl walking in spike heels can make a bit of noise. Solution? From the front door to the bedroom were about 15 small mats, looking a lot like a flagstone path type thing (only sound absorbing) which the girl was keen to let me know to step on the mats rather than the floor. Which of course is what she was doing as well.

All good with that and a great session with the girl (Gia as I recall). So time to leave and she does the usual check through the peephole to see if anyone is in the foyer. All clear so she sends me on my way. Just as I am walking out the door and lady from the 2nd floor is coming down. I get to the door about 2 steps before she will and it's clear that she sees me and is looking at me. I figure the best I can do is just act like normal so make the usual morning / greetings, comment about how it's nice the rain has stopped, hold the door for her and then we go our separate ways.

I don't know if that interaction lead to anything or if Gia was perhaps observing an saw that one of the neighbors ran into me. Well, the agency moved from that location within about 2 weeks.

All the best intentions and plans.

[QUOTE=Noworth;7489726]I had to chuckle a bit at this line. Years ago one of the local agencies had moved into a new location. Not terrible but a bit more "out in the open" type setting from the usual condo places. Basically the building entrance opened into a large foyer with a central staircase going up to the second floor and all the units making a bit of a you-shape around the entrance and staircase.

As you note, the agencies are very sensitive to attracting attention of the neighbors from noise and whatnot. I arrived, door opens and, of course, I take my shoes off. The floors are all hard flooring so the girl walking in spike heels can make a bit of noise. Solution? From the front door to the bedroom were about 15 small mats, looking a lot like a flagstone path type thing (only sound absorbing) which the girl was keen to let me know to step on the mats rather than the floor. Which of course is what she was doing as well.

All good with that and a great session with the girl (Gia as I recall). So time to leave and she does the usual check through the peephole to see if anyone is in the foyer. All clear so she sends me on my way. Just as I am walking out the door and lady from the 2nd floor is coming down. I get to the door about 2 steps before she will and it's clear that she sees me and is looking at me. I figure the best I can do is just act like normal so make the usual morning / greetings, comment about how it's nice the rain has stopped, hold the door for her and then we go our separate ways.

I don't know if that interaction lead to anything or if Gia was perhaps observing an saw that one of the neighbors ran into me. Well, the agency moved from that location within about 2 weeks.

All the best intentions and plans.[/QUOTE]Highly doubt they moved cause you ran into a neighbor.

Doubtful the neighbor even knew who you were probably just think you live in the building.

One time a girl let me out right as I was going out the door a Amazon guy delivery guy ran into me by accident lols.

He was apologetic and saying sorry he in a rush I just said no worries.

One other time I got freaked out was waiting by door for girl to open she didn't right away then all of a sudden neighbors were passing by me in groups for some lols.

I got freaked out like it some LEO and ditched the appointment.

Got banned from there but couple of weeks later told them situation and got unbanned.

The reality is that most of the ladies I have seen of late are solid good, but not great. Both in terms of looks and service. I don't remember the gal, from last year, but she was tiny and had washboard abs. She rocked it. Looks are great, but I'll take service with a great body any day. I am fortunate to have someone more local that I have seen for years that scratches 90% of my itches for much less money. It's got enough PSE, but is just lacking the GFE element that makes it complete. I think that's what Viki did well. Blend the various PSE & GFE into a single experience.

I had more options years ago, but after the debacle in Georgia and Washington, the places in MD closed, things changed up in NoVA and I took a long break from Korgs, and I lost all my references, except CPU, which is somewhat limiting, quality-wise.

I do try to provide enough detail to allow for differing preferences, which is a moving target. Viki was a home run and I'll repeat this week. I am fortunate to be more time / opportunity limited, than money, but money doesn't create opportunities to get away, or help the traffic on the DC beltway between Tysons and SilverSpring.

I started making the drive again, this past year, but not too often, and only if I see anything to indicate at least a slightly better than average experience. Sometimes I just need that extra GFE boost that you can't get at an AMP, which helps me minimize the need to spend two hours driving for a one hour session.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7489145]Great to hear. If guys find their type of girl and win, they tend to review and then more guys will know what to look for and also win. Then more girls matching that standard show up. It's why I bothered to review Baby Iu, Viki, and Emma. They're not for every guy. But if I describe them accurately the right guy will find them. I don't want guys to waste money, so I point out girls I think are in the top 25%. This is the most polite and harmless way to weed out the bottom tier girls. The bottom 25% are simply free to leave and work a lower standard market.

I will add some notes on both Viki and driving tips. First, Viki is a service queen by Socal standards. Kind of middle of the pack. As for looks she is a petite spinner with a very nice body, face is GND and not the main attraction. She is fit and well-toned. If you do things right with her, she is very vocal and it was a big plus for me on repeats.



[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=7482997#post7482997[/URL] Baby Iu, Viki, Emma

[B]Service over Looks[/B]
Like Hani (retired), Viki is service over looks and body over face. There is probably some overlap in fan-base. Guys see Hani and Viki for service and connection as the main attraction, they aren't seeing them for their face even though they are normal GND faces. I even thought Hani was hot (I listed her as B-Tier = "good looking") and her tits were high tier, but some guys need a certain level of face. So it is better to warn people a girl has a good body but okay face, so that true fans find her instead. Those are the guys that repeat a girl and bring more girls like them in the future.

I repeated Viki many times because she's good in bed, she can get 2 shots out of me. She knows what she's doing, and her body is high tier. So I see her for high service.

[B]Looks and Service[/B]
Generally speaking, girls are "looks first" or "service first". Viki and Emma are firmly in "service first", and their looks are good enough for me. Whereas for many jgirls, they are young and "looks first", and I like them if their service is good enough instead. Baby Iu is slightly "service first", her body is high tier but she is body over face. I really liked her, but I think one reason she is touring is competition is really tough in Socal as far as looks. So you can imagine if even a young girl with good body like her tours what it's like.

Lime is an even better example. She has a very good body and pretty good service. When she visits Socal, I do have her on my todo list but there are just 5-10 ATFs I need to see before her. Then she ends up leaving after maybe a week. I know friends who would love to repeat her, but exactly the same problem - she's not the very top of their list so she leaves before they get around to it. In that scenario, it's logical for her to do a quick stop in Socal for the "true fans" so to speak. It's not like Socal doesn't like her, she can just do much better elsewhere. She becomes a top 25% kgirl anywhere else.

Baby Arin is the same. She's a top 15% girl even in Socal, but she only works a few weeks in Socal now. There's too many other girls people want to see. But she can work months in other cities and do much better. Like selling water in a desert.

Some more Viki reviews:






Even among the girls who love sex, start slow to avoid injury. It can take a few minutes for girls to adapt to size. Starting slow and working your way up will help you have more fun.



Since I saw Viki too, I know the above reviews are accurate. Intel becomes a lot more obvious once you saw a girl, then you know which reviewers can help you next time. Notice people are just helping each other and reviewing a lot. Some from LA even generously passed on intel to OC so they'd have a heads up. As a courtsey, we don't go back to the LA thread and start posting a lot of basic questions when the threads are mainly for reviews. Just reading and researching carefully you'll figure it out anyways. Hope that makes sense.

[B]Driving[/B]
About driving one hour each way, it's sometimes the way to find the girl you want. I only drive if I have clear intel a girl is my type. The first time, focus on your route and not getting lost and driving safe. It's nice to have an audiobook. I always show up early to avoid the risk of being late. Extra early for a first time. Start early, and don't stress. If I reach there early, sometimes I park at a nice gas station a few minutes away. Some have a bathroom or I can catch up on emails and friends, fill up on gas. I keep dry snacks and drinks in the car for the drive, that's important too. If you get sleepy on the way back, find a safe parking lot or street and take a nap. The most important is to drive safely. It is actually the greatest risk of all in life and even this hobby. People don't realize it, but every close call among people I know has been simply driving.

If I have the day off, I drive around town and visit my favorite shops and restaurants. A mini vacation. But if I finished my appointment and feel tight on time, I'll grab a quick bite to eat. I'm not a fan of McDonald's, but they have a cheap and filling combo. For better or worse, their food is the least likely to upset or have foul odors. This makes it a reliable stop if you have a 2nd appointment after, I don't want girls to smell what I ate to the extent possible. Oh, McDonald's also have bathrooms! Starbucks too, they are an alternative to pick up a quick snack. This is all assuming time > money for you. For money, ideally you pack a healthy lunch, snacks, drinks.

[B]Nova for Kgirls[/B]
About weeding out bottom tier girls and raising standards. All you need to do is give accurate reviews, no need to hype or exaggerate just say what you got. Then guys can pick and choose a girl that will make him happy, consistently. We all have different opinions, and a variety of opinions is a good thing. People will figure it out, we all have different taste in women so we aren't supposed to agree. But when I say a girl is A-Tier, it's not like anyone finds her ugly or average. Usually, other people will say she is actually S-Tier or really just B-Tier. That is a huge gap from C through F Tier looks.

So if a few of us say "I actually like Hani's face" while others say "nope", you can reason that it's up to taste and if you're a "face sensitive" guy with high standards you'll need to keep looking. Other guys can try her and maybe find they really like her. I later found that the guys who liked Hani's face, I could easily recommend other GND face girls with good spinner bodies and they loved them too. Hope that makes sense, taste is consistent.

You could think of Nova as a Tier 2 kgirl city. It doesn't get a lot of kgirls, but sometimes gets decent ones surprisingly. Baby Arin, Lady Ari, Lime, Kora, Baby Iu, Hani, and others. There are much worse cities for kgirls btw! So there is a momentum you can build on when you point out the better kgirls that show up (top 25%), and guys finding and seeing them will bring more girls of that standard coming in.

Nova has some momentum, it just needs accurate reviews. After a certain level of reviewing, it's harder to shill simply because there's enough real reviews to make them look odd and out of place. And once you identify which reviewers match your taste, you naturally ignore other them anyways.

Well, you kind of hope not too many people notice. Slow growth is safer. It's possible to figure it out yourself by reading back enough. You could say AMPs are the nail that sticks out, and screening and discretion are built-in to korgs. In many States, korgs use common sense and don't bother the neighbors, so nobody cares. This varies State to State, so it is trial and error. A few States only prioritize streetwalkers and shops operating in the open. Which makes sense. When no one complains, it's not a problem.[/QUOTE]

Inna was awesome!

Sweet, petite, little treat. Looks like her pics. Especially the one wearing jeans in the chair. Hot face, hot body, very good service. Friendly and pleasing the whole time. Kissing at the door, in the room and in the shower. She will just shove her tongue in your mouth and leave it. However, you can kiss her anyway you like and she responds well. BBJ preview. Sitting on the bed BBJ with killer view if her ass in the mirror. She can DT and gives a nice sensual BBJ. Very generous with the BBJ. Extended 69. The kitty is fantastic. P2 P CG. Banged several positions with hot DFK. Nice and snug. Killer more aggressive BBJTCM finish. If you like the smaller slim ones then she is a must see in my opinion.

Trying to upload photo in the green lingerie. I think this best represents her face and figure.