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[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6807940]Several guys have asked me about extras have I gotten with some of my favorite independent FBSM providers. I leave the details out intentionally because it's YMMV. I was talking to 2 of them who I saw this past week and both have in their ads with comments like, extras at my discretion, open minded but discreet and / or menu discuss in person. Both of them told me they do not offer extras or upgrades to everyone and both said they want to be in the mood and to have / feel some chemistry with a customer if they will be offering FS, kissing, etc. If you like their ad / pictures and good reviews from mongers you trust I recommend making the appointment and asking the ladies when you're there. Good luck![/QUOTE]King, for the FBSM providers that don't advertise extras or say no FS. Do you ask about upgrades during the first visit? If I think a provider is hot and worth repeating I usually make a move on the second or third visit.

[QUOTE=Bane858;6809072]King, for the FBSM providers that don't advertise extras or say no FS. Do you ask about upgrades during the first visit? If I think a provider is hot and worth repeating I usually make a move on the second or third visit.[/QUOTE]Hey Bane! I'm assuming when you say upgrades that you are referring to more than just a nude massage w / a handy release. For me, it depends on how the session starts and progresses will determine when I will ask about extras. I do try to make small talk to see if the provider engages in conversation. If there are mirrors in the room I will let her know I like the placements of the mirrors and I like how they show off her sexy body, etc. I also limit the mutual touching until I see how the provider does her body slides. If I'm on my stomach and she's sitting on my back or legs with her bare kitty, sliding on my body then I know it's a good sign that extras are available. I also let both my arms hang off the table and if the provider brushes on them often or allow them to go between her legs touching her kitty then I know it's a good sign that extras might be available. If after the flip and her touches become more sensual and playful and / or she is sitting on my stomach in RCG playing with junior and allowing me to touch her butt, then I'll give compliments about how nice her booty looks and let her know I love the view of her exposed kitty, etc. If she spread more for me to see I will make comments about how good they look and to taste, etc. LOL. If any of these occur during the session then I'll ask. Yes, all these happened. LOL.

If the provider doesn't engage in conversation much at the first appointment then I will let her do her thing. If she's hot then I'll repeat at least a second time. If she opens up on the 2nd visit then I'll repeat the 3rd time quickly if she hasn't already brought up extras on the 2nd visit. I usually know by the 2nd visit if extras will be available. If not, I won't repeat with an independent. I posted about my experience with one independent where I repeated with her 3 times in one day and during the 3rd visit she asked if I wanted to fuck her. LOL. We now have sex about 50 percent of the time I see her. I say "about 50%" because I don't ever schedule a VIP appointment. The sex thing happens naturally because we both want it. I also never do 30 minutes sessions. It doesn't allow for the getting to "know you" with the provider.

I have not met an independent FBSM provider that didn't offer extras (meaning more than a handy) sometimes in their massage "career. " Again these are just the ones I have personally seen 3 or more visits. Many have the 3rd dates rule. LOL.

Hope this makes sense. Trying to respond late when I should already be asleep because I have an early start tomorrow.

I will only repeat, even when there's no extras, if the provider's massage is really good, like at an AMP just for the massage / handy and will tip accordingly.

Hello, Sugar!

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Anyone else get this?

[QUOTE=Lascivious;6810335]Hello, Sugar!

Fuck me now 👉 HERE, sweetie ❤.

Anyone else get this?[/QUOTE]I'm sure you are doing this, but iF you don't know the number they are coming from, block them. Someone, somewhere, shared your number.

I do get suggestive spam texts every once in a while from unknown numbers, but not that explicit. I block them all immediately.

And like other active hobbists, I get the "hello darling" or the "I miss you" texts from my regulars. Even though I know who these are from, I interpret them as, it's slow here, or I need some money. Sometimes I have been away for a while and think she really does miss me. I will usually respond with something nice, but I don't show up when called. I let them know I'll see them when I can. Then maybe show up or make an appointment in a week or so. I don't want to be that dog who comes right away every-time he's called.

I don't monger with the intent to know all the women, or go around charming all the MMS so they know what I "like" or make it a point of viewing all the girls to make my selection, so I seldom get the "new girls" texts. That to me is also a call for your money. I don't worry about them.

Just know, any number you use, can be shared, and they do track numbers. Consider a burner, or google number.

Well said. You're especially spot on with the interpretation "it's slow here or I need some money".

[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6810642]I'm sure you are doing this, but iF you don't know the number they are coming from, block them. Someone, somewhere, shared your number.

I do get suggestive spam texts every once in a while from unknown numbers, but not that explicit. I block them all immediately.

And like other active hobbists, I get the "hello darling" or the "I miss you" texts from my regulars. Even though I know who these are from, I interpret them as, it's slow here, or I need some money. Sometimes I have been away for a while and think she really does miss me. I will usually respond with something nice, but I don't show up when called. I let them know I'll see them when I can. Then maybe show up or make an appointment in a week or so. I don't want to be that dog who comes right away every-time he's called.

I don't monger with the intent to know all the women, or go around charming all the MMS so they know what I "like" or make it a point of viewing all the girls to make my selection, so I seldom get the "new girls" texts. That to me is also a call for your money. I don't worry about them.

Just know, any number you use, can be shared, and they do track numbers. Consider a burner, or google number.[/QUOTE]

May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?

[QUOTE=BKane80;6816995]May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?[/QUOTE]For me, it's simple. I enjoy a good GFE session with DFK so I just don't see providers who offer rimming or CIM.

If I get the urge for a CIM session, then I refrain from kissing during that session.

[QUOTE=BKane80;6816995]May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?[/QUOTE]I will only kiss a provider if we both do a blue toast at the start of the session.

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6817046]For me, it's simple. I enjoy a good GFE session with DFK so I just don't see providers who offer rimming or CIM.

If I get the urge for a CIM session, then I refrain from kissing during that session.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback. I guess I'm wondering how other mongers still DFK even after knowing the provider provides rimming or CIM. I'll chalk it up to being in the heat of the moment.

I try not to think about it too much. I really enjoy daty, and find it opens some doors to great experiences. But I try not to think about the fact that some random dick has been there within the last hour. Same thing with dfk. I love it, and find it really gets me hard. I guess its one reason why my preferred locations for FS these days offer table showers in which the provider gets naked and slides all over you. So I know she's nice and clean. Never caught anything, but I guess I've been lucky. If I thought about it too much I'd probably just stick to non-FS providers.

[QUOTE=BKane80;6816995]May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6817054]I will only kiss a provider if we both do a blue toast at the start of the session.[/QUOTE]I hear you on that one, but that's difficult sometimes when she comes at you aggressively and starts kissing you right away. May have to put the brakes on that from now on.

[QUOTE=BKane80;6817841]I hear you on that one, but that's difficult sometimes when she comes at you aggressively and starts kissing you right away. May have to put the brakes on that from now on.[/QUOTE]I have not been to a FS spa in almost a year, but the ones that I have gone to all do the blue toast. Also, I never do 30 minutes so I always get to do a shower with my providers so both of us are clean and minty fresh. All the AAMPs do the blue toast as well before the showers so I'm good there.

I go see independent FBSM providers and "providers" at nonFS spas as of late. These ladies are YMMV when it comes to GFE experiences. I carry individual mouthwash to my appointments and leave them out with my tips when I am seeing regulars that I know I am going to kiss, enjoy mutual oral with, etc.

Personally I don't entertain providers who allow CIM, or CIP action. Bare in any way is too risky for me.

I definitely would not kiss let alone DFK any provider who gives RIM, performs BBBJs, and certainly not one who allows a CIM finish.

That said, I don't DATY any regular full service provider, and certainly not one who accepts BBFS sex, or BBCIP action.

I always seek the girl less traveled.

But to each their own.

[QUOTE=BKane80;6816995]May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?[/QUOTE]

All valid points. Will definitely take into consideration in future sessions.

I think he might be a monger. LOL.