"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2722374] When I started listening to these girls I realized they are telling you everything you need to know. They are desperate for guidance, the sugar isn't really what they want. It's the masculine energy of a "successful" guy that they are looking for. Once they find you're worthy they'll be loyal. By all means spoil these girls, have fun. My point is you can do this and spend ZERO. Give freely based on how it makes you feel most importantly.[/QUOTE]Sweet story Hoya. But not true in the collective. This is true for an age appropriate guy who is dating IRL-like. But reality for most of us who are 20 yrs older up to 40+,and not free to date (married) ,it IS all about the Money. You must be attractive, young, and have game to tap these hotties who are looking for an IRL partner to nab. You know the saying girls make "he's a catch!" Well, I am a catch for my wife who lives a life free of financial worries, with an age appropriate guy who is well to do, attractive, and nice. My advice to you is watch out for the "falling in love" syndrome that these girls may exhibit when they realize you are a "good catch IRL".

Brothers,

To step off topic for a moment just for amusement's sake, I was PMing a fellow member of the club about some possible UTR leads in the Windy City, since he was set to visit us for work, and it occurred to me that one of my litmus tests for pros, UTRs or simply babies who will be willing to play for a night or two if you are coming to town is their boob size.

In my experience with On The Road sugaring, the larger their boobs are, especially if they're fake, the more willing they seem to be to acquiesce to a one or two night stand. Of course there are exceptions, and I can think of a handful in my own experience, but in general I like it as a field identification technique. Conversely, the smaller they are, the more they seem to be interested in women as well as men, again at least in my recent experience. I have found, however, that all of the above seems to go out the window where Latinas are concerned, and in fact may be just the opposite, so who knows?

And granted, while I have yet to arrange the highly-sought-after threesome with my current ATF and another baby, it is not for lack of candidates. I have three and possibly four willings just waiting for those pesky holidays to be over so that panties, and my boxers, can hit the floor.

So, in the current spirit of wanting more than just war stories in the clubhouse journal, I toss this out to the General Brotherhood: what are some of your "indicators"? And it can be anything at all - several years ago we shared buzz words that if received when communicating with a POT were sure-fire flags that she was a pro, I. E. "babe".

In any event, I urge you all to keep up the good work, and let's not allow this thread to stagnate. While I agree that too many "war stories" grows wearisome after a while, there must be more valuable, or even humorous, anecdotes to share? Any brother who has fucked a baby 20 years or more his junior due to assistance from the journal is obligated to post! Please share your insights and bring some light to these somber days.

Happy holidays to you all, whatever you practice, and best wishes for the coming year.

Tally ho,

Scott.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2722542]Sweet story Hoya. But not true in the collective. This is true for an age appropriate guy who is dating IRL-like. But reality for most of us who are 20 yrs older up to 40+,and not free to date (married) ,it IS all about the Money. You must be attractive, young, and have game to tap these hotties who are looking for an IRL partner to nab. You know the saying girls make "he's a catch!" Well, I am a catch for my wife who lives a life free of financial worries, with an age appropriate guy who is well to do, attractive, and nice. My advice to you is watch out for the "falling in love" syndrome that these girls may exhibit when they realize you are a "good catch IRL".[/QUOTE]Good advice, Fred. I suppose the bigger question I'm having now is, "Is this the life from here on out?" I don't foresee marriage again. I also don't think I'd deal with a woman my age anymore. I'm hoping I didn't open a Pandora's box with this SB / SD lifestyle. One thing it has helped me realize is to focus on your career and family, everything else seems to right itself.

[QUOTE=FScott;2722895]Brothers,


In my experience with On The Road sugaring, the larger their boobs are, especially if they're fake, the more willing they seem to be to acquiesce to a one or two night stand. [/QUOTE]I would agree, though most of the ones I ended up with were natural gals I seemed to hit it off with. Chemistry vs Chemicals (Silicone).

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2723639]I would agree, though most of the ones I ended up with were natural gals I seemed to hit it off with. Chemistry vs Chemicals (Silicone).[/QUOTE]I'm just not a big fan of fake boobs. I know some guys see no difference, and obviously enjoy the larger sizes, but I'd really just as soon have little or no boobs than fake ones. I prefer the soft natural feel by far.

I have had a few SBs with the bolt-ons and they worked out OK. But also seemed to be a little more of the GPS type and were a little harder on the budget. Guess they may have been still making payments to the plastic surgeon.

Gentlemen,

Just wanted to follow up on my earlier post regarding my local UPS store and receiving a package of blue vitamins from the sub continent. I am happy to report that my purchase from All Day Chemist went through without a hitch, using a pre-paid green dot card and having it shipped to my name at my local UPS mailing / mailbox store.

ADC provided me with a tracking number once it was in the system, and I logged in every few days or so to track its progress. Once it indicated it was in the US, I alerted the guy at the UPS store to expect a package for me, and on the day it arrived I went in, paid them five dollars for receiving it for me, and walked out with my package.

Everything functioned beautifully, easily and completely under the radar of my SO.

Ya got to love it! I'm convinced this package receipt gambit was dreamed up by one of us trying to keep incriminating mail out of the reach of his SO.

Happy holidays, my brothers.

Scott.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2720713]Sharing SB info too freely will drive some out when they realize we are comparing notes -- they will feel like ******.

Chatting with an RVA gal who has an SB mentor -- one girl might not realize a bunch of guys are conspiring to bang her like a drum for the lowest possible price, but two are sure to figure it out and get super careful.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this. Some of these girls are right on the edge of cancelling soon after they register if things don't go their way in short time let alone one of them finding out that they are being talked about by others who want to do them. Recently I've had to talk out of cancelling a few women where things weren't going their way on the site. I found this out when I reached out to them for the first time. I had to sell them to have more patience. The last thing these women want to be associated with is anything other than a sugar baby.

I recently got a message from a SB with some bullshit story about her wanting to save up for a place to live and get an education. It had a GoFundMe link in the message: [URL]gofundme.com/g4fn7wzw[/URL].

In the past, I had seen SB's say they would only respond to messages from guys who bought them something off their Amazon wishlist.

Do these babies think we are stupid enough to forward funds to them for nothing? Then again, someone donated $50 to that GoFundMe less than an hour ago. Apparently, there are some really desperate, gullible loser SD's out there.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;2726626]I recently got a message from a SB with some bullshit story about her wanting to save up for a place to live and get an education. It had a GoFundMe link in the message: [URL]gofundme.com/g4fn7wzw[/URL].

In the past, I had seen SB's say they would only respond to messages from guys who bought them something off their Amazon wishlist.

Do these babies think we are stupid enough to forward funds to them for nothing? Then again, someone donated $50 to that GoFundMe less than an hour ago. Apparently, there are some really desperate, gullible loser SD's out there.[/QUOTE]I reported the profile as spam, and it looks like SA deleted it within 12 hours.

If you run into scammers, share them, please.

That's fair play regardless of what you are thinking about the rest.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2726589]I have to agree with this. Some of these girls are right on the edge of cancelling soon after they register if things don't go their way in short time let alone one of them finding out that they are being talked about by others who want to do them. Recently I've had to talk out of cancelling a few women where things weren't going their way on the site. I found this out when I reached out to them for the first time. I had to sell them to have more patience. The last thing these women want to be associated with is anything other than a sugar baby.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2728635]If you run into scammers, share them, please.

That's fair play regardless of what you are thinking about the rest.[/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood my post. I wasn't referring to scammers. More to the legitimate baby's finding out about being paraded around to the others like is done with the escorts from BP.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2720565]I cracked up reading your post. The song from frozen started playing in my head. Let it go, let it go.[/QUOTE]I just saw your post. I must have been off for a bit and missed it. LOL about that song.

I'm getting real tired of texting with a new potential SB for only a short time before they start asking for me to pay pal them money. I tell them to go fuck off. I hope no one actually sends money.

[QUOTE=Banger12;2731866]I'm getting real tired of texting with a new potential SB for only a short time before they start asking for me to pay pal them money. I tell them to go fuck off. I hope no one actually sends money.[/QUOTE]Over the years, I have seen a few profiles with SB's saying they expect a PayPal deposit before meeting. I never bothered to contact those SB's. I have never had a SB that I was chatting with come out and demand money upfront, knock on wood. If they did that, all communication would cease immediately from my end.

In a similar vein, if an SB starts asking me within the first message or two what specific dollar amount I am going to give her for an allowance, I know things will not work out: she is comparison shopping with dozens or even hundreds of guys. Which ever salt daddy lies and says the largest dollar amount is the one she goes with. These are the types of sugar babies that get scammed by a salt daddy early on and either (1.) depart the website / lifestyle soon after or (2.) become angry and skeptical with every other SD she communicates with from that point forward. I have heard lots of stories from my babies and my potentials about all of the fake SD's and liars out there.

[QUOTE=Banger12;2731866]I'm getting real tired of texting with a new potential SB for only a short time before they start asking for me to pay pal them money. I tell them to go fuck off. I hope no one actually sends money.[/QUOTE]Yep sadly they do and they pay for a simple m / g. Some pay good money so these girls spread the word and alot come to expect it.