Massage Parlor Reports

I will be in the area next week. I would like to know if there is an Asian MT. I want an independent one. Would you recommend at least 3? Any suggestions?

Stopped by Lily's place on Venice the other day and saw a sign saying they are closed for a bit. Anyone know the reason why?

I was looking for a nice massage and I encountered this Super Spa. Since nobody recommended me for an independent provider, I went here and I had a great time with one Korean Lady. I love the deep tissue but still I'm looking for more sensual one and still looking for other places that are safe and I am not looking for any Asian provider In particular, I just want someone that gave a good massage and a happy ending.

[QUOTE=Crimsonquiggs;2869981]Stopped by Lily's place on Venice the other day and saw a sign saying they are closed for a bit. Anyone know the reason why?[/QUOTE]I encountered this not too long ago as well. The sign says they're on vacation but I can only imagine things got heated and they're lying low for a while.

[QUOTE=RasDestroy;2872346]I encountered this not too long ago as well. The sign says they're on vacation but I can only imagine things got heated and they're lying low for a while.[/QUOTE]Well, either that or Lilly's increasing craziness drove off all the 'girls. ' She may have had to go to China to do more recruiting.

So. Mpr has been down for days now. I'm guessing LE got a hold of it? If so, rip mpr.

[QUOTE=ChrisWake;2875774]So. Mpr has been down for days now. I'm guessing LE got a hold of it? If so, rip mpr.[/QUOTE]Whoa, the mp creators should get a full military monger salute!

I found 2 or 3 atfs from there. Hope those punters migrate here to share the wealth of their vast knowledge and experience.

[QUOTE=ChrisWake;2875774]So. Mpr has been down for days now. I'm guessing LE got a hold of it? If so, rip mpr.[/QUOTE]Back today. It's blinking on and off. If they had any notion of customer service, they'd give everyone an additional 2-3 days.

[QUOTE=RasDestroy;2872346]I encountered this not too long ago as well. The sign says they're on vacation but I can only imagine things got heated and they're lying low for a while.[/QUOTE]Stopped by to read the sign. Said they were closed for remodeling and will reopen 5/26.

[QUOTE=Willie23;2876766]Back today. It's blinking on and off. If they had any notion of customer service, they'd give everyone an additional 2-3 days.[/QUOTE]They've really gone of the rails the last few months. Not approving posts, slow bandwith, etc. Sucks because it can be a valuable resource. Hope they get it figured out.

I originally posted this in the wrong section, here it is:

Pit Stop in Pico Rivera.

So yesterday I just needed to bust a nut as I have been laying off any alcohol and completely off my cold medicine so I felt a big bulge of man juice needing pussy.

I spent a good hour on HX but just saw the same old bitches and came across Pit Stop ad on BP. Why not? A short drive over to this strip mall and paid my forty to enter and led to a room via the papasan.

In walks Cindy or something like that, an early to mid 30's Viet gal with a decent shape and sporting a not so over-the-top pair of bolt-on's.

She knew what I was there for and we agreed on 1. 2 but she wanted cash in hand before the start. I had good vibes with this little viet so why not. She leaves and returns.

She wanted to get right to it but I said slow down a bit and give me a light back rub to help me warm up which she obliged. After 5-8 minutes she's grabbing my now throbbing blood engorged dick.

Out come the cover and she goes to work spending the next 10-12 minutes on my member with me playing with her nipples and hairy pussy, hairy yes but trimmed.

I lay her on the shitty hard table and enter my too thick throbbing member into her tiny viet hole. God was she tight but took it slow and in 3-4 minutes I was fully buried bone pelvic deep.

Bust a strong nut full of my nectar and she was so nice to clean and wipe me.

All in all I would return if and when I am in the area.

The Tall Man.

Hi.

I'm a newbie in the game and I'd like to try out what the local AMP's have to offer. I don't seek specific information, I know those stripes have to be earned.

What I'd like to know is, what the general etiquette of AMP mongering is. For instance, if I go in, to a place that offers a 1 hour massage for $45, would that include the HE as well? If not, what is conventionally an acceptable tip?

Also, how long does the tugging usually last? Is it just a quick 5 min, "let's get this done with", kind of a deal or is it something longer, slower and more gradual? If both kinds are available, how much does each type cost?

I've seen ads for a place that is $65/ hour, would the tip here be $20 less than the 45 buck place? And, finally, how much is an acceptable tip for FS?

Please help me out with these basics so I can start posting reviews of my own, soon. Thanks in advance!

P.S.: If this is not the right forum for this post, please direct me to the appropriate place.

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2878444]Hi.

I'm a newbie in the game and I'd like to try out what the local AMP's have to offer. I don't seek specific information, I know those stripes have to be earned.

What I'd like to know is, what the general etiquette of AMP mongering is. For instance, if I go in, to a place that offers a 1 hour massage for $45, would that include the HE as well? If not, what is conventionally an acceptable tip?

Also, how long does the tugging usually last? Is it just a quick 5 min, "let's get this done with", kind of a deal or is it something longer, slower and more gradual? If both kinds are available, how much does each type cost?

I've seen ads for a place that is $65/ hour, would the tip here be $20 less than the 45 buck place? And, finally, how much is an acceptable tip for FS?

Please help me out with these basics so I can start posting reviews of my own, soon. Thanks in advance!

P.S.: If this is not the right forum for this post, please direct me to the appropriate place.[/QUOTE]The price you pay at the door be it $45-75 is purely the price for admission, anything else you have to negotiate with your masseuse. This can range from $50 to $250 depending on what you need and the lady of course. What I normally do to work out if there is more to be had, is to get the table shower first. Even you as a newbie should be able to work out how wide the menu is by how good the table shower is.

[QUOTE=Mark1160;2878652]The price you pay at the door be it $45-75 is purely the price for admission, anything else you have to negotiate with your masseuse. This can range from $50 to $250 depending on what you need and the lady of course. What I normally do to work out if there is more to be had, is to get the table shower first. Even you as a newbie should be able to work out how wide the menu is by how good the table shower is.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.

So, you're saying the better the table shower, the more likely it is that there's more fun to be had, right? Also, in the $50-$250 range that you metioned, I'm assuming a $50 tip will get me a simple tug, right? So that comes to a total of $95. A bit steep considering what can be had on BP, or am I missing something, here?

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2878699]Thanks for the reply.

So, you're saying the better the table shower, the more likely it is that there's more fun to be had, right? Also, in the $50-$250 range that you metioned, I'm assuming a $50 tip will get me a simple tug, right? So that comes to a total of $95. A bit steep considering what can be had on BP, or am I missing something, here?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]Technically you are right. For a rub and tug it's usually the entrance fee plus the tip that goes anywhere from $40-$60+ (depending how generous you like to be). Some places will let you do it like animals but of course the price will go up. I guess some guys like a massage with their release. If your looking for some p*ssy then BP might be a better route.

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2878444]Hi.

I'm a newbie in the game and I'd like to try out what the local AMP's have to offer. I don't seek specific information, I know those stripes have to be earned.

What I'd like to know is, what the general etiquette of AMP mongering is. For instance, if I go in, to a place that offers a 1 hour massage for $45, would that include the HE as well? If not, what is conventionally an acceptable tip?

Also, how long does the tugging usually last? Is it just a quick 5 min, "let's get this done with", kind of a deal or is it something longer, slower and more gradual? If both kinds are available, how much does each type cost?

I've seen ads for a place that is $65/ hour, would the tip here be $20 less than the 45 buck place? And, finally, how much is an acceptable tip for FS?

Please help me out with these basics so I can start posting reviews of my own, soon. Thanks in advance!

P.S.: If this is not the right forum for this post, please direct me to the appropriate place.[/QUOTE]I monger in the valley and typicaly the breakdown is:

$40-50 is the common house fee. There are a few $35 AMP's, but usually those are legit only. For a simple tug it's. 4 Some providers will ask for a bit more to pop the girls out. CBJ is usually. 6-. 8 and FS usually is $ and up. The advantage of an AMP over BP is there isn't a pimp waiting to rob you. A few newbie tips: Only bring what you are willing to pay in with you. You can't be talked out of cash you don't have. Don't fall in love. These girls are sweet and friendly but it's a business. Treat them with respect. If you find yourself in a legit shop, don't push the issue, enjoy the massage and tip accordingly. Be safe and have fun.

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2878699]Thanks for the reply.

So, you're saying the better the table shower, the more likely it is that there's more fun to be had, right? Also, in the $50-$250 range that you metioned, I'm assuming a $50 tip will get me a simple tug, right? So that comes to a total of $95. A bit steep considering what can be had on BP, or am I missing something, here?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]As far as I travelled a lot, I already experienced all kinds of massage and my experienced might be the same as others. The less tip you give, the less upgrade you get. Try to negotiate what amount of money to the provider that you can get the VIP treatment. Its almost the same as where ever you go. I gave a good tip so I get the VIP treatment.

[QUOTE=PlayerN818;2879064]I monger in the valley and typicaly the breakdown is:

$40-50 is the common house fee. There are a few $35 AMP's, but usually those are legit only. For a simple tug it's. 4 Some providers will ask for a bit more to pop the girls out. CBJ is usually. 6-. 8 and FS usually is $ and up. The advantage of an AMP over BP is there isn't a pimp waiting to rob you. A few newbie tips: Only bring what you are willing to pay in with you. You can't be talked out of cash you don't have. Don't fall in love. These girls are sweet and friendly but it's a business. Treat them with respect. If you find yourself in a legit shop, don't push the issue, enjoy the massage and tip accordingly. Be safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]Solid advice. I would also add that BP is rife with no-shows, uglies and ripoffs. With an AMP, you walk in, rarely wait more than 10 minutes to start, and (at least for me) enjoy the suspense of 'what will she do?

I hit this spot yesterday night aroung 9:30. Very nice clean place. Very nice good looking young asian lady's to choice from. I payed 25 for 1/2 hour which I should have paid 10 more for the hour anyway's I picked this hot one, she took me to the room gave me a nice massage on my back and before she asked to 2 turn around she whispered in my ear how did I hear about this place so I told her my friend recommended me. After that it was on. She turned me around and touched JR and asked if it was okay. I said hell yea! So she whispered in my ear again asking what I was looking for so I told her BBBJ, she said ok. A little pricey but worth it. I will go back very soon! Good luck fellows.

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2878699]Thanks for the reply.

So, you're saying the better the table shower, the more likely it is that there's more fun to be had, right? Also, in the $50-$250 range that you metioned, I'm assuming a $50 tip will get me a simple tug, right? So that comes to a total of $95. A bit steep considering what can be had on BP, or am I missing something, here?

Thanks again![/QUOTE]Your probably looking $120 for a decent massage and rub and tug, just depends on how good your negotiating skills are and how desperate she is, if it's been a quiet day.

[QUOTE=AlhambraBoy5;2879297]I hit this spot yesterday night aroung 9:30. Very nice clean place. Very nice good looking young asian lady's to choice from. I payed 25 for 1/2 hour which I should have paid 10 more for the hour anyway's I picked this hot one, she took me to the room gave me a nice massage on my back and before she asked to 2 turn around she whispered in my ear how did I hear about this place so I told her my friend recommended me. After that it was on. She turned me around and touched JR and asked if it was okay. I said hell yea! So she whispered in my ear again asking what I was looking for so I told her BBBJ, she said ok. A little pricey but worth it. I will go back very soon! Good luck fellows.[/QUOTE]Hey AB5,

First I am glad you had fun there. Second thanks for posting, probly info on the tip you left would help fellow mongers out and in case it's out of the ordinary someone here would advise.

Also rating her skills and giving a clue as to her name would also be good for the rest of us.

The other thing is this your posting belongs in the San Gabriel MP thread, no big deal but just so you know being a newbie you might not be aware of.

Mondo.

"I have come from the future to offer you hh specials, role play and fetishes".

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[QUOTE=Zauriel;2880621]"I have come from the future to offer you hh specials, role play and fetishes".

[URL]http://losangeles.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-photo-selfi-elizabet-last-week-petite-upscale-discreet-inc/67627386[/URL][/QUOTE]Guaranteed winner.

I went in last Thursday around 11:30. This place can be hard to miss because its nestled behind a fence that obstructs you seeing it from the street (which I guess is good). I paid. 5 to the mamasan for 1/2 hour. I ended up with a pretty Japanese chick named Yuki. She took me to the room and gave me a brief massage. She prompted me to flip over and started playing with my nipples to start. Then she went to work on my member with a CBJ. At one point I went soft and so she took the condom off for a BBBJ! All on her own with no pushing from me. She then got on top for CG and man was she tight! Her pussy was like a pleasurable vice (pun intended). After that it was MISH and then K9 to finish. All in all it was a good experience. I'd say her looks were a solid 7 but her pussy was like a 8. Tip was $. Would repeat.

[QUOTE=Zauriel;2880621]"I have come from the future to offer you hh specials, role play and fetishes".

[URL]http://losangeles.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-photo-selfi-elizabet-last-week-petite-upscale-discreet-inc/67627386[/URL][/QUOTE]Nothing fake about that ad. Totally legit.

[QUOTE=JParkLa;2878831]Technically you are right. For a rub and tug it's usually the entrance fee plus the tip that goes anywhere from $40-$60+ (depending how generous you like to be). Some places will let you do it like animals but of course the price will go up. I guess some guys like a massage with their release. If your looking for some p*ssy then BP might be a better route.[/QUOTE]Thanks man!

[QUOTE=PlayerN818;2879064]I monger in the valley and typicaly the breakdown is:

$40-50 is the common house fee. There are a few $35 AMP's, but usually those are legit only. For a simple tug it's. 4 Some providers will ask for a bit more to pop the girls out. CBJ is usually. 6-. 8 and FS usually is $ and up. The advantage of an AMP over BP is there isn't a pimp waiting to rob you. A few newbie tips: Only bring what you are willing to pay in with you. You can't be talked out of cash you don't have. Don't fall in love. These girls are sweet and friendly but it's a business. Treat them with respect. If you find yourself in a legit shop, don't push the issue, enjoy the massage and tip accordingly. Be safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]Bringing only what you're willing to give is real sensible. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Willie23;2879149]Solid advice. I would also add that BP is rife with no-shows, uglies and ripoffs. With an AMP, you walk in, rarely wait more than 10 minutes to start, and (at least for me) enjoy the suspense of 'what will she do?[/QUOTE]Thanks, that makes sense.

[QUOTE=Mark1160;2879676]Your probably looking $120 for a decent massage and rub and tug, just depends on how good your negotiating skills are and how desperate she is, if it's been a quiet day.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Thanks man. I'll keep that in mind, probably plan for a Wednesday afternoon if I can find the time.

[QUOTE=Zauriel;2880621]"I have come from the future to offer you hh specials, role play and fetishes".

[URL]http://losangeles.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-photo-selfi-elizabet-last-week-petite-upscale-discreet-inc/67627386[/URL][/QUOTE]She could've written that sign on her forehead.

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2882090]Hahahaha. Thanks man. I'll keep that in mind, probably plan for a Wednesday afternoon if I can find the time.[/QUOTE]Or come over the hill into the valley and spend about $80 for a decent massage and HE.

[QUOTE=PlayerN818;2882591]Or come over the hill into the valley and spend about $80 for a decent massage and HE.[/QUOTE]Is $80 allows touching? Is it sensual? I've been to a lot of massage $100 is full body, decent massage, sensual, foot scrub and foot spa. Allow touching but not sensitive parts. But I always tip good.

[URL]http://losangeles.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/fantastic-latinas-pretty-enjoy-sexis-curves-see-you-come-exotic-sensual-girls/62065166[/URL]

Got a young hot latina but attitude was a huge turn off. She was the only worker. Could hear her getting smashed next door before it was my turn. Didn't want sloppy seconds, so I asked for a BJ. Pretty pricey and rushed. No skills. Upside is my hands could roam. Quoted FS 120.

I've posted these before, but it's been a while.

I've been playing the game for over 20 years. These are not rules, but they are general observations and rules of thumb. They apply to LA and the Valley, but not necessarily to places like San Gabriel, El Monte, Orange County.

1. Admission is usually $40/50 for a half hour. Never buy an hour on your first visit. I've read countless stories of guys who bought the hour, pop unexpectedly early, then get rushed out after 20 minutes.

2. Sometimes the mama-san won't even sell you an hour. She will say sternly, "30 minutes." That is a good clue for you. Legit places will sell you as much time as you want.

3. Often, but not always, $40 places are HE only. $50 offer more extras. There are exceptions on both sides.

4. HE places, the girl will touch you and ask, "Is this OK?" or "You want?"

5. FS places, the girl asks, "What do you want?" The answer is "Everything" or "Your mouth." Don't say, fuck, or BJ or anything that could get you in trouble if this is actually a sting. The exception is if the provider already has her hand on your groin when she asks. Don't go to FS places for a HJ. You just piss them off, as they want the full tip.

6. Always let the girl initiate the action. Don't be grabby. If it's a sting (unlikely), that is bad news. Even if it isn't, the girl may view you as an a-hole, so service quality will go down.

7. Places that are less than $40 or more than $50 (like Massage Envy, which is $75 or more) are almost always legit.

8. Remove your clothes (all of them) and lie face-down on the table. Don't cover yourself with the towel, even if they told you to.

9. I put the tip on top of my folded clothes in plain sight. Some guys don't do this, and some have been burned by the girl grabbing the tip. I have never had that problem.

10. Some guys are more assertive or aggressive, and grab the girl to let her know what they are interested in. I have never found that necessary, and the one time I tried it, I was embarrassed by my own behavior.

11. Tips: $40 for HE. $60-80 for BJ (often, $60 for clothed BJ, $80 for topless or nude). $100 and up for FS ($120-160 in OC and San Francisco).

12. Tip more if the service is special, for example, topless HE, or BBBJ.

13. I don't usually tip poorly for poor service, in this arena. If I get the service, I pay the tip. I know this is stupid, since a bad HE gets the same tip as a decent HE, but I'm not going to quibble over 10 bucks with a girl who just spanked my monkey. It's bad karma, and really, you don't need the drama.

14. After you have a good visit or two at the same place, try an hour if you need it. I've never needed it for one pop, but I've had providers say if I bought the hour, I could have two pops. Most providers don't want to do an hour, because most guys don't tip accordingly. Really, an hour should be double the tip, as they could just do another 30 minutes with someone else otherwise. So it has to be worth her while.

15. If the place has a shower, and offers it to you, take it. Even if you just showered at home. A) They know you aren't a cop, because a cop won't leave his paraphernalia in the room. B) I suspect that some places go through your pockets, which is a good thing. Just leave your cards, identification, etc. In your car, or bring them with you to the shower. Again, they want to know you aren't a cop. C) If the girl knows you are really clean, she is more likely to do more of the things you want.

16. If they ask, "Have you been here before?" the best answer is usually, Yes. However, I've experimented with both answers, and it doesn't seem to matter overall. I think, contrary to what a lot of people here say, they ask to see if you know the rules.

17. If they ask, "Who did you see the last time you were here?" just say, "I don't remember. Maybe it was Bebe?" It's all code. If you say you have never been there before, you may still get what you want, it just may take a while for them to check you out and make sure you are going to tip them, and aren't a neighborhood vigilante-type looking to make trouble.

18. Sometimes, they will ask, "How did you find out about this place?" Again, it's to see how savvy you are. If you say, "I was just driving down the street and wanted a massage," they may be more cautious. If you say, "My friend told me about it," or, "On the Internet," they know you are at least non-newbie enough to have a clue about what is going on. If they ask which friend, say, "John. He's gray-haired and about 6'1"... comes here all the time, about 45 years old." They will say, "Oh, him! Tell him to come in soon."

19. If they ask how you want your massage, hard, medium or light/soft, always say "light/soft." Legit places never ask that. "Light massage" is code for teasing. Usually. Sometimes not. Then you just get a bad massage. If they start actually giving you a light massage, just say you changed your mind and you want it harder. If a place is legit, you may as well get a good massage out of it. I know some guys want a real massage followed by HE, but I find there is more risk in requesting a medium or hard massage of not getting an HE. Also, most of these providers are NOT very good at it, and a hard massage will just damage you.

20. Always accept the cup or bottle of water they offer as you are leaving. You need to replace any fluids you have recently discharged.

Report back here. It's good karma and helps out the next guy.

P.S. A note on negotiations. Girls state a price. Some guys like to haggle. This is a fine line. If a girl says, $120 for FS, and you bargain her down to $80, do you really think you are going to get quality service? Yes, some girls start high, expecting to haggle down, and some are just greedy, but they won't give you good service anyway. In best practice, there is no discussion of tip beforehand, and if you stick to the standards, you are usually OK. NEVER ask "How much?" Sometimes, you hand a girl $60 and she asks for $80. If she was good, just give it. If she wasn't, say you don't have it. Don't wave around a wad of money, and not expect her to ask for more. If you open your wallet, remove $60, showing an obviously empty wallet, and hand it to her, chances are she'll be good with it. That said, it's worth keeping an extra $40 or $60 in another pocket for special occasions, emergencies, and super-duper service, etc.

[QUOTE=Bolb89;2883436][URL]http://losangeles.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/fantastic-latinas-pretty-enjoy-sexis-curves-see-you-come-exotic-sensual-girls/62065166[/URL]

Got a young hot latina but attitude was a huge turn off. She was the only worker. Could hear her getting smashed next door before it was my turn. Didn't want sloppy seconds, so I asked for a BJ. Pretty pricey and rushed. No skills. Upside is my hands could roam. Quoted FS 120.[/QUOTE]Sorry but you are ALWAYS getting sloppy seconds. Or thirds. . or 20 ths.

The unemployed boyfriend usually taps it before she goes to work.

Hey Sixty,

Man thanks a lot for taking the time to post the report to help newbies out.

I know when I first started out I would of loved to have seen a report like yours since one has so many questions and for the most part we are not sure how to do things.

This is the way this site is supposed to work, provide info so others can benefit from it.

Mondo.

[QUOTE=AtlLooking;2882813]Is $80 allows touching? Is it sensual? I've been to a lot of massage $100 is full body, decent massage, sensual, foot scrub and foot spa. Allow touching but not sensitive parts. But I always tip good.[/QUOTE]It varies. I've gotten from top off tit sucking to over clothes only. I'm only looking for the HJ, so rarely have to go over. 9.

Adm88 your mailbox is full.

[QUOTE=MrSixty;2883881]I've posted these before, but it's been a while.

I've been playing the game for over 20 years. These are not rules, but they are general observations and rules of thumb. They apply to LA and the Valley, but not necessarily to places like San Gabriel, El Monte, Orange County.

1. Admission is usually $40/50 for a half hour. Never buy an hour on your first visit. I've read countless stories of guys who bought the hour, pop unexpectedly early, then get rushed out after 20 minutes.

2. Sometimes the mama-san won't even sell you an hour. She will say sternly, "30 minutes." That is a good clue for you. Legit places will sell you as much time as you want.

3. Often, but not always, $40 places are HE only. $50 offer more extras. There are exceptions on both sides.

4. HE places, the girl will touch you and ask, "Is this OK?" or "You want?"

5. FS places, the girl asks, "What do you want?" The answer is "Everything" or "Your mouth." Don't say, fuck, or BJ or anything that could get you in trouble if this is actually a sting. The exception is if the provider already has her hand on your groin when she asks. Don't go to FS places for a HJ. You just piss them off, as they want the full tip.

6. Always let the girl initiate the action. Don't be grabby. If it's a sting (unlikely), that is bad news. Even if it isn't, the girl may view you as an a-hole, so service quality will go down.

7. Places that are less than $40 or more than $50 (like Massage Envy, which is $75 or more) are almost always legit.

8. Remove your clothes (all of them) and lie face-down on the table. Don't cover yourself with the towel, even if they told you to.

9. I put the tip on top of my folded clothes in plain sight. Some guys don't do this, and some have been burned by the girl grabbing the tip. I have never had that problem.

10. Some guys are more assertive or aggressive, and grab the girl to let her know what they are interested in. I have never found that necessary, and the one time I tried it, I was embarrassed by my own behavior.

11. Tips: $40 for HE. $60-80 for BJ (often, $60 for clothed BJ, $80 for topless or nude). $100 and up for FS ($120-160 in OC and San Francisco).

12. Tip more if the service is special, for example, topless HE, or BBBJ.

13. I don't usually tip poorly for poor service, in this arena. If I get the service, I pay the tip. I know this is stupid, since a bad HE gets the same tip as a decent HE, but I'm not going to quibble over 10 bucks with a girl who just spanked my monkey. It's bad karma, and really, you don't need the drama.

14. After you have a good visit or two at the same place, try an hour if you need it. I've never needed it for one pop, but I've had providers say if I bought the hour, I could have two pops. Most providers don't want to do an hour, because most guys don't tip accordingly. Really, an hour should be double the tip, as they could just do another 30 minutes with someone else otherwise. So it has to be worth her while.

15. If the place has a shower, and offers it to you, take it. Even if you just showered at home. A) They know you aren't a cop, because a cop won't leave his paraphernalia in the room. B) I suspect that some places go through your pockets, which is a good thing. Just leave your cards, identification, etc. In your car, or bring them with you to the shower. Again, they want to know you aren't a cop. C) If the girl knows you are really clean, she is more likely to do more of the things you want.

16. If they ask, "Have you been here before?" the best answer is usually, Yes. However, I've experimented with both answers, and it doesn't seem to matter overall. I think, contrary to what a lot of people here say, they ask to see if you know the rules.

17. If they ask, "Who did you see the last time you were here?" just say, "I don't remember. Maybe it was Bebe?" It's all code. If you say you have never been there before, you may still get what you want, it just may take a while for them to check you out and make sure you are going to tip them, and aren't a neighborhood vigilante-type looking to make trouble.

18. Sometimes, they will ask, "How did you find out about this place?" Again, it's to see how savvy you are. If you say, "I was just driving down the street and wanted a massage," they may be more cautious. If you say, "My friend told me about it," or, "On the Internet," they know you are at least non-newbie enough to have a clue about what is going on. If they ask which friend, say, "John. He's gray-haired and about 6'1"... comes here all the time, about 45 years old." They will say, "Oh, him! Tell him to come in soon."

19. If they ask how you want your massage, hard, medium or light/soft, always say "light/soft." Legit places never ask that. "Light massage" is code for teasing. Usually. Sometimes not. Then you just get a bad massage. If they start actually giving you a light massage, just say you changed your mind and you want it harder. If a place is legit, you may as well get a good massage out of it. I know some guys want a real massage followed by HE, but I find there is more risk in requesting a medium or hard massage of not getting an HE. Also, most of these providers are NOT very good at it, and a hard massage will just damage you.

20. Always accept the cup or bottle of water they offer as you are leaving. You need to replace any fluids you have recently discharged.

Report back here. It's good karma and helps out the next guy.

P.S. A note on negotiations. Girls state a price. Some guys like to haggle. This is a fine line. If a girl says, $120 for FS, and you bargain her down to $80, do you really think you are going to get quality service? Yes, some girls start high, expecting to haggle down, and some are just greedy, but they won't give you good service anyway. In best practice, there is no discussion of tip beforehand, and if you stick to the standards, you are usually OK. NEVER ask "How much?" Sometimes, you hand a girl $60 and she asks for $80. If she was good, just give it. If she wasn't, say you don't have it. Don't wave around a wad of money, and not expect her to ask for more. If you open your wallet, remove $60, showing an obviously empty wallet, and hand it to her, chances are she'll be good with it. That said, it's worth keeping an extra $40 or $60 in another pocket for special occasions, emergencies, and super-duper service, etc.[/QUOTE]You sir, are a legend! I think almost all my questions have been answered here. Just one final question, is it better to go on a weekday afternoon because there'd be fewer customers coming in and so the girls won't be in a rush?

[QUOTE=MahiDrake;2884796]You sir, are a legend! I think almost all my questions have been answered here. Just one final question, is it better to go on a weekday afternoon because there'd be fewer customers coming in and so the girls won't be in a rush?[/QUOTE]Hey Md,

Yeah, I would concur with your assessment for afternoon visits.

This is what works for me. I try to hit the place mid afternoon since I don't like rush hour when most MP get kind of busy from mongers getting off work.

Also, Sundays seem to be a slow day for most MP and if you hit it and it's been slow you are liable to get better service since providers are hungry for tips. Then again you have to take this advice with a grain of salt since sometimes the quality of providers is lower than on regular days.

Again, YMMV but this is my experience in the MP scene.

Mondo.