Seeking Arrangement

Idk if I was lucky or if it was just being in a different location, but when I used SA more frequently pre-pandemic I felt bots were pretty rare. Started using the app again recently here in Detroit and I feel like 90% of the girls that reach out are bots / some sort of scam. Always starts off mostly normal but they Really want to text off app, then very quickly are asking money for pics. I say no just want to meet and they ghost. Seen new profiles within days using the same pics LOL. Has Detroit always been this bad or has SA gotten worse in the last few years?

[QUOTE=Nrahrah;6948945]Anyone get a chance to try these two?

Lickitten - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fa27774b-b7c9-4f85-bff3-dc725872117f[/URL].

[/QUOTE]I'm not sure she's a scammer, but something's going on. I messaged with her a couple of years ago. From her handle, you might think that she's into receiving oral. Similarly, she was on Reddit and always posting about how she needed someone to go down on her. But when I was talking to her, she claimed that she'd never received oral and had some sort of block about it because some guy at some point made fun of her pussy. I got the sense that she was a rinser setting up her excuse for why she couldn't do anything (other than receive money), but I can't attest to the fact.

[QUOTE=OneBoyy;6949284]Idk if I was lucky or if it was just being in a different location, but when I used SA more frequently pre-pandemic I felt bots were pretty rare. Started using the app again recently here in Detroit and I feel like 90% of the girls that reach out are bots / some sort of scam. Always starts off mostly normal but they Really want to text off app, then very quickly are asking money for pics. I say no just want to meet and they ghost. Seen new profiles within days using the same pics LOL. Has Detroit always been this bad or has SA gotten worse in the last few years?[/QUOTE]It's not your imagination. From the mid 2010's until the pandemic, I had more sex than I've ever had in my life and with real girls, not just UTR's and hookers. I had arrangements with some genuinely interesting and attractive twenty-something girls who were actually worth talking to in addition to everything else. They are still out there, but in numbers so small that I'm seriously thinking about giving it up after a decade on the site. But maybe it's just harder for me now because I'm in my 70's instead of my 60's.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/03f88e2a81fb0dd5[/URL] After messaging for a while and talking, we agreed to meet. She was at a hotel in Livonia on the north side of 96 just east of middlebelt. When I got to the room, she was drunk. She looks just like her pictures, and has very big boobs and a big ass. As far as her face goes, she does look like her pictures, but she had snot coming out of one side of her nose. Went for a BBBJ nonetheless, and she swallowed. She does greek for anyone interested, and in her drunken state she celebrated getting her Martin Luther King allowance of 2 bens with a "whoo" and arms raised in victory. I don't think she gets a lot of repeat customers, and it was a long time between my initial contact and our actual meeting. The told me she was part Puerto Rican. She is big, albeit curvy, and in her defense, she smelled clean. BJ was a bit aggressive, paritally due to her being conspicuously sauced. I would not repeat, but for guys who love large boobs with large butts, she's available and affordable. She's open to negotiation. She lives in Livonia, and she's also on what's your price, for anyone interested.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/32836ac1ab9af28d[/URL] We agreed to meet for 5 bens in my Martin Luther King dream. Claims to live in Canton. We met at a decent hotel in the area. She established some ground rules: she doesn't eat ass (very understandably), she doesn't do anal, she doesn't swallow, and she doesn't allow anyone to go twice because as she divulged it takes too long. As far as appearance goes, she is gorgeous. Legitimately gorgeous, and she looks better in person. She told me she'd had lipo so if in any of her pictures she looks like she has some weight on her in the middle, it was gone when I saw her. Great skin, great, very ample boobs. BBBJ with covered sex. It didn't take long. She was accommodating. She was very good at the BBBJ, and clearly wanted to please. With the sex, she didn't really get too into it, but she was accommodating. I don't realistically ever expect anyone to get into it. She told me she liked to have her boobs played with. I learned from talking to her that she had several kids, one of which had medical problems, so I suspect that she does this to offset medical costs. I think she is genuinely looking for people to build some semblance of a connection with, despite how fickle this is. Told me she'd lived in California, and had been a dealer at a casino at one point. I'd definitely say she's worth seeing. Great hygiene. Very friendly. Calm. She has a very professional demeanor. Didn't stay long after matters but I never expect anyone to, and she has a lot of responsibilities outside of this. Clear, concise, prompt with responding. Showed up on time. I can't fault her for anything.

Agree, she looks better in person, she really enjoyed the 69.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bed4bcc3-269d-40e3-bf3d-95fe19092cf5[/URL]

[QUOTE=SpitzerWeiner2;6953826][URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/32836ac1ab9af28d[/URL] We agreed to meet for 5 bens in my Martin Luther King dream. Claims to live in Canton. We met at a decent hotel in the area. She established some ground rules: she doesn't eat ass (very understandably), she doesn't do anal, she doesn't swallow, and she doesn't allow anyone to go twice because as she divulged it takes too long. As far as appearance goes, she is gorgeous. Legitimately gorgeous, and she looks better in person. She told me she'd had lipo so if in any of her pictures she looks like she has some weight on her in the middle, it was gone when I saw her. Great skin, great, very ample boobs. BBBJ with covered sex. It didn't take long. She was accommodating. She was very good at the BBBJ, and clearly wanted to please. With the sex, she didn't really get too into it, but she was accommodating. I don't realistically ever expect anyone to get into it. She told me she liked to have her boobs played with. I learned from talking to her that she had several kids, one of which had medical problems, so I suspect that she does this to offset medical costs. I think she is genuinely looking for people to build some semblance of a connection with, despite how fickle this is. Told me she'd lived in California, and had been a dealer at a casino at one point. I'd definitely say she's worth seeing. Great hygiene. Very friendly. Calm. She has a very professional demeanor. Didn't stay long after matters but I never expect anyone to, and she has a lot of responsibilities outside of this. Clear, concise, prompt with responding. Showed up on time. I can't fault her for anything.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=SpitzerWeiner2;6953812][URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/03f88e2a81fb0dd5[/URL] After messaging for a while and talking, we agreed to meet. She was at a hotel in Livonia on the north side of 96 just east of middlebelt. When I got to the room, she was drunk. She looks just like her pictures, and has very big boobs and a big ass. As far as her face goes, she does look like her pictures, but she had snot coming out of one side of her nose. Went for a BBBJ nonetheless, and she swallowed. She does greek for anyone interested, and in her drunken state she celebrated getting her Martin Luther King allowance of 2 bens with a "whoo" and arms raised in victory. I don't think she gets a lot of repeat customers, and it was a long time between my initial contact and our actual meeting. The told me she was part Puerto Rican. She is big, albeit curvy, and in her defense, she smelled clean. BJ was a bit aggressive, paritally due to her being conspicuously sauced. I would not repeat, but for guys who love large boobs with large butts, she's available and affordable. She's open to negotiation. She lives in Livonia, and she's also on what's your price, for anyone interested.[/QUOTE]I also met with her in the past. For Free!!

She is actually a slob. She is not thick but fat. She was also a drunk mess. Actually very obnoxious.

BBBJ, Sex, Swallowed.

Would not hook up with her again even tho it was free.

Kinda of a horrible attitude.

Has anyone had any interaction with her.

Facebook looks like she is nice, but chatting with her. Not so much.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/981e8855-4d8d-4e8b-9c70-049a75956459[/URL]

[QUOTE=SpitzerWeiner2;6953826][URL]https://www.sugardaddy.com/next/profile/32836ac1ab9af28d[/URL] We agreed to meet for 5 bens in my Martin Luther King dream. Claims to live in Canton. We met at a decent hotel in the area. She established some ground rules: she doesn't eat ass (very understandably), she doesn't do anal, she doesn't swallow, and she doesn't allow anyone to go twice because as she divulged it takes too long. As far as appearance goes, she is gorgeous. Legitimately gorgeous, and she looks better in person. She told me she'd had lipo so if in any of her pictures she looks like she has some weight on her in the middle, it was gone when I saw her. Great skin, great, very ample boobs. BBBJ with covered sex. It didn't take long. She was accommodating. She was very good at the BBBJ, and clearly wanted to please. With the sex, she didn't really get too into it, but she was accommodating. I don't realistically ever expect anyone to get into it. She told me she liked to have her boobs played with. I learned from talking to her that she had several kids, one of which had medical problems, so I suspect that she does this to offset medical costs. I think she is genuinely looking for people to build some semblance of a connection with, despite how fickle this is. Told me she'd lived in California, and had been a dealer at a casino at one point. I'd definitely say she's worth seeing. Great hygiene. Very friendly. Calm. She has a very professional demeanor. Didn't stay long after matters but I never expect anyone to, and she has a lot of responsibilities outside of this. Clear, concise, prompt with responding. Showed up on time. I can't fault her for anything.[/QUOTE]Did you try for BBFS? Do you think it's possible with her?

Does anyone have any experience with Rica? This isn't her first profile, she was on before as AstuteAngel. I have exchanged some preliminary messages with her, and she seems nice. But before going any farther, I thought I'd see if anyone has had any experience with her. Thanks in advance!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf690ef4-8df2-4320-afa7-5097b91626ce[/URL]

Any info or comms with her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b83b2a8b-f20a-450d-9ec1-e7f78354b789[/URL]#.

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;6968265]Does anyone have any experience with Rica? This isn't her first profile, she was on before as AstuteAngel. I have exchanged some preliminary messages with her, and she seems nice. But before going any farther, I thought I'd see if anyone has had any experience with her. Thanks in advance!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf690ef4-8df2-4320-afa7-5097b91626ce[/URL][/QUOTE]I set up to meet her in April and she flaked, stopped responding. When I asked what happened, she said her phone is the issue. After that, she contacted me twice and started conversations as though we had never communicated before.

[QUOTE=JonMels;6969171]I set up to meet her in April and she flaked, stopped responding. When I asked what happened, she said her phone is the issue. After that, she contacted me twice and started conversations as though we had never communicated before.[/QUOTE]Same here. I think he also had a profile as Costa Rica for a bit. First contact started going good, then sounded flaky. When she got back to me she wanted me to cashapp her something so she could eat, as she had just had to move and was tired and hungry. Sounded fishy. I reached out to her again a couple weeks later and seemed like the conversation was normal so tried to meet up and she ghosted me. Haven't tried again but still interested if she's actually real.

[QUOTE=IWannaHaveFun6;6969408]Same here. I think he also had a profile as Costa Rica for a bit. First contact started going good, then sounded flaky. When she got back to me she wanted me to cashapp her something so she could eat, as she had just had to move and was tired and hungry. Sounded fishy. I reached out to her again a couple weeks later and seemed like the conversation was normal so tried to meet up and she ghosted me. Haven't tried again but still interested if she's actually real.[/QUOTE]Depending on the month, she needs money because she just moved, her father died and she needs help financially, or her poor sickly grandmother.

[QUOTE=JonMels;6969531]Depending on the month, she needs money because she just moved, her father died and she needs help financially, or her poor sickly grandmother.[/QUOTE]Thanks to everyone who replied. I guess I'll have to scratch her off the list.

[QUOTE=LoVecchio;6950793]It's not your imagination. From the mid 2010's until the pandemic, I had more sex than I've ever had in my life and with real girls, not just UTR's and hookers. I had arrangements with some genuinely interesting and attractive twenty-something girls who were actually worth talking to in addition to everything else. They are still out there, but in numbers so small that I'm seriously thinking about giving it up after a decade on the site. But maybe it's just harder for me now because I'm in my 70's instead of my 60's.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with both of you. I had a lot of great connections for years and before the pandemic, when it was called SA. My SB left town a few months ago, and I have been back searching. The amount of bots and flakes are incredible. You can actually tell most of the time when you are talking to a bot / AI by the way they answer questions. It took me a long time and a lot of weeding, but I have connected with a couple of real women, and met in person with both. Like you LoVec, I am old enough (mid 60's) that I am looking now for someone who is actually worth talking to. Believe me my friend, there are still women out there that prefer to connect with old timers like us, with more experience, confidence, and financial means. Many have "daddy issues", but hey, I don't mind. LOL.

[QUOTE=JonMels;6969531]Depending on the month, she needs money because she just moved, her father died and she needs help financially, or her poor sickly grandmother.[/QUOTE]Well, I can confirm she is indeed real, and the pics are pretty close. Sweet little girl and nice to talk to. Safe hotel in Canton. Nice session but I was in a bit of a rush due to other committments so it wasn't as relaxing as it could have been, but that was my problem and not hers. I just had to try while the comms were good so I jumped on the chance.

[QUOTE=IWannaHaveFun6;6978081]Well, I can confirm she is indeed real, and the pics are pretty close. Sweet little girl and nice to talk to. Safe hotel in Canton. Nice session but I was in a bit of a rush due to other committments so it wasn't as relaxing as it could have been, but that was my problem and not hers. I just had to try while the comms were good so I jumped on the chance.[/QUOTE]How much is she asking, if you don't mind my asking? I never got that far with her.

Does anyone have any experience with Ash? I've usually had good experience with single moms and this one has my look.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&lan=1&userId=72996405&nsp=1[/URL]

Exchanged a few messages, and no red flags so far. Thought I'd see if anyone has had any experience with her. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=JohnCast719;6976228] You can actually tell most of the time when you are talking to a bot / AI by the way they answer questions. It took me a long time and a lot of weeding, but I have connected with a couple of real women, and met in person with both. Like you LoVec, I am old enough (mid 60's) that I am looking now for someone who is actually worth talking to. Believe me my friend, there are still women out there that prefer to connect with old timers like us, with more experience, confidence, and financial means. Many have "daddy issues", but hey, I don't mind. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for those tips, you're right about the AI, sometimes it's just the words they use that seems off, but it's getting harder to pick them out.

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;6978656]Thanks for those tips, you're right about the AI, sometimes it's just the words they use that seems off, but it's getting harder to pick them out.[/QUOTE]One of the most common phrases I get. "Well so for how long have you been on here and what are you really seeking for?

Verbatim. Others might ask the same questions but in many different ways. The spam ones or fake accounts always use that line. Usually in the first five or ten messages.

[QUOTE=IWannaHaveFun6;6979524]One of the most common phrases I get. "Well so for how long have you been on here and what are you really seeking for?

Verbatim. Others might ask the same questions but in many different ways. The spam ones or fake accounts always use that line. Usually in the first five or ten messages.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that, do you find they are just trying to see if you're real too (spammer talking to other spammers) or do they start asking if you can help them out with a phone bill right after?

Ash seems to be off silent since Sunday, hopefully she comes back.

Never had her before if you want to share digits I'm all in.

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;6978650]Does anyone have any experience with Ash? I've usually had good experience with single moms and this one has my look.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?tid=af100011222-m&lan=1&userId=72996405&nsp=1[/URL]

Exchanged a few messages, and no red flags so far. Thought I'd see if anyone has had any experience with her. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BerolLoz;6981542]Thanks for that, do you find they are just trying to see if you're real too (spammer talking to other spammers) or do they start asking if you can help them out with a phone bill right after?

Ash seems to be off silent since Sunday, hopefully she comes back.[/QUOTE]The spammers use vertabim words that you start to recognize after a while. The scammers will have a bit of a pattern, but not the exact same words. They'll start flirting and then something will come up where they need a few bucks (food, gas, kids clothes, kids dr appt, etc) and they'll ask for some cash via a cashapp or gift card, saying they'll "remember it" when you finally get together. I've not done that, so I can't say if they'll actually "remember it" if you do actually ever end up meeting them in person.

The real ones will eventually get around to figuring out if you're serious but I've never seen a pattern to them. Some might meet with no committment, but others want some $$ for any kind of meeting, even if it's just a casual 'meet and greet' to see if you want to go further. Some of the 'real' ones are just pros in the business and just using the site as a marketing tool. A few chats online and you'll end up with a number where you can work out the details of a meeting (location, services, etc). The other 'real' ones are actual or want to-be SB that really want an allowance arrangement but migth be ok with the first few meeting being PPM, but there's no guarantee on "services".

And it's too bad almost all of them are just focused on the $$ instead of what they really need / want. I helped a young lady out a while ago obtaining something she wanted for years but never could figure out how to pull it off. It would have cost her thousands and she still might not have been able to do it, but I was able to make some arrangements and pull it all together in about a month for her. When she realized that it was going to happen she made me a very happy guy several times over the course of that month and it hardly cost me anything. Real win-win for both of us.

Any info on this one? Hitting me up hard for dates, shared her pics and a bit of a mom not MILF body, can't host and no car!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2665226c-cfd2-4868-a750-062d44255880[/URL]

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BuckENaked;6986184]Any info on this one? Hitting me up hard for dates, shared her pics and a bit of a mom not MILF body, can't host and no car!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2665226c-cfd2-4868-a750-062d44255880[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]A "mom" bod might not be bad, but too often 'curvy' just means fat. I don't have any knowledge of that one, but she does have a cute face! I'm surprised at how many I've contacted have no transportation and some don't even have a LICENSE yet!

This profile is a little stale but I was wondering if anyone ever connected with this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f0446806-d9a1-41fa-aa8a-f1d11741d945[/URL]

You rarely see anyone so blunt. Seems like it would be less challenging to get to the good part. Love some info if anyone has it.

[QUOTE=Darwin2000;6987717]This profile is a little stale but I was wondering if anyone ever connected with this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f0446806-d9a1-41fa-aa8a-f1d11741d945[/URL]

You rarely see anyone so blunt. Seems like it would be less challenging to get to the good part. Love some info if anyone has it.[/QUOTE]Had a quick interaction with her 6-12 months ago, didn't meet, don't know a lot other than what you can probably also find.

All I remember was connecting on social media, getting a personal video to prove she was real. Watching her on a 'fans' site (not only, IDK what it was, it required a personal link). Watched her in a small room with a closet overflowing with stuff do some dress up for tips.

I dad a few more texts but one came immediately that 'she couldn't right now. ' Appeared perhaps to be in a relationship, seemed also like she was trying to find lodging, and those two things may have been interconnected. IDK. It was weird how quick it went from her interested to not, but I suspect her life is/was chaotic from the SM.

If her insta, etc. , is still up, there's probably more to be gleamed from it. The ad as you note is stale. I suspect she has a different name now. The social media thing was interesting bc she had a bit of a fanbase that was trying to product her from being posted on reddit, etc. Suspect a friend of candy back then. If found a few different names that led to her stuff on a bunch of sites, but I do believe she's been using others since the p33p ones. You might try tracking any of those down, like I said there was a pretty decent reddit and she had a following. I don't think it was always "meets" though. And, I'm positive she changed or deleted the ones I followed, I remember a few different names... just stopped caring to follow so I won't be able to help any more, can't remember the new ones.

Check that. She's active on secretbenefit. Garden city area.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/805b933a-6978-471b-a236-f1a29de57f2e[/URL]

Nude pic. Anyone?

[QUOTE=Alchy505;6990523][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/805b933a-6978-471b-a236-f1a29de57f2e[/URL]

Nude pic. Anyone?[/QUOTE]I sent a message a few days ago. No response. I'm a little surprised the profile is still up.

At this point I think Seeking is a lost cause. My previous arrangement left after finishing her degree and been looking. It's almost all new accounts and stolen pictures. It's impressive how many there are. Previously it's taken a bit to sift through but this is next level.

[QUOTE=SpartanJoe;6993468]At this point I think Seeking is a lost cause. My previous arrangement left after finishing her degree and been looking. It's almost all new accounts and stolen pictures. It's impressive how many there are. Previously it's taken a bit to sift through but this is next level.[/QUOTE]It's utterly amazing how much that website has changed over the last properly five years or so. Basically it's either fake profiles. Content sellers. Or girls asking for insane amounts of money. Of a mutually beneficial or two-way street has been completely lost.

[QUOTE=Alchy505;6990523][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/805b933a-6978-471b-a236-f1a29de57f2e[/URL]

Nude pic. Anyone?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JonMels;6991949]I sent a message a few days ago. No response. I'm a little surprised the profile is still up.[/QUOTE]I saw that too and was amazed the Moderators approved that photo.

Guess Seeking is getting pretty hard up for customers.

[QUOTE=SpartanJoe;6993468]At this point I think Seeking is a lost cause. My previous arrangement left after finishing her degree and been looking. It's almost all new accounts and stolen pictures. It's impressive how many there are. Previously it's taken a bit to sift through but this is next level.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RoyalOaker;6993514]It's utterly amazing how much that website has changed over the last properly five years or so. Basically it's either fake profiles. Content sellers. Or girls asking for insane amounts of money. Of a mutually beneficial or two-way street has been completely lost.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, tons of New Accounts Daily.

Good way to put yourself to sleep at night looking through them. LOL.

[QUOTE=LimpBiscuit;6994315]Totally agree, tons of New Accounts Daily.

Good way to put yourself to sleep at night looking through them. LOL.[/QUOTE]Gents,

While I don't disagree there are a lot of new fake accounts on the site, I just saw three ladies last week, one on Wednesday evening, and two on Friday evening. And I am working on two more for this week. Its a bit more work these days to find real ladies, but they are still out there, they are still looking for men to have fun with. Don't give up hope, they are still out there.

Saw these ladies last week:

TeeTee:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d1b7f73d-2466-411d-a3a7-d91413ac7853[/URL]

Hot, hosts at her place and was a lot of fun. Looks just like her pics.

Abby:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb15250a-9372-48a7-9dcf-2e4e1425f6cb[/URL]

Young, will not host you have to get a room. Was a lot of fun, and is a pleaser, so keep her mouth busy and you will be fine. Looks like her pics.

Kitty:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c1da48e1-ed8e-443e-afbb-c60a6075b399[/URL]

Got drinks first so we could see about chemistry, got a room and had a lot of fun. Looks like her pics.

Daze.

[QUOTE=Daze94;6995096]Gents,

While I don't disagree there are a lot of new fake accounts on the site, I just saw three ladies last week, one on Wednesday evening, and two on Friday evening. And I am working on two more for this week. Its a bit more work these days to find real ladies, but they are still out there, they are still looking for men to have fun with. Don't give up hope, they are still out there.

Saw these ladies last week:

[/QUOTE]To each their own but none of these are my type. I'm looking for 20's and tiny which previously wasn't an issue. Had two friends for a year that I'd regularly meet together that were a blast. Looks like those days are gone.

[QUOTE=Daze94;6995096]Gents,

TeeTee:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d1b7f73d-2466-411d-a3a7-d91413ac7853[/URL]

Hot, hosts at her place and was a lot of fun. Looks just like her pics.
[/QUOTE]I could swear I saw this one on Tryst or some other site at some point. Does anyone remember that or am I going crazy?

[QUOTE=SpartanJoe;6995465]To each their own but none of these are my type. I'm looking for 20's and tiny which previously wasn't an issue. Had two friends for a year that I'd regularly meet together that were a blast. Looks like those days are gone.[/QUOTE]While they might not be your type, the point was to show there are still real ladies on the site, you just have to know how to navigate the bot accounts to find what you are looking for. These ladies are my type and I was able to find them.

Daze.