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I am not sure why everyone is arguing below! I am sure the person that they are seeing has a big part to do with who gets BBFS. I have seen plenty of girls and I have been offered BBFS by quite a few that supposedly don't offer that service. I am sure its the right time, right place, not gross that determines it. I am not dumb enough to think these girls are only doing this with me however. That's why I typically would not take most up on the offer.

[QUOTE=Heritage1;4277939]EVERY single time, it's utterly impossible to be POSITIVE if someone does or does not give BBFS. It's the very definition of YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4275204]White knighting for another monger? Then it should be "I heard" or "I've been told" or "I assume" no credibility with FF and his bandwagon.[/QUOTE]White knighting? Nope. You just keep using a word, "facts", that you clearly don't understand. Stick with words you know the meaning of and I'll go back to my popcorn.

"It should be. " Why? He simply listed women with an open menu who allow BBFS. Should he be required to give either a full report on each girl he's been with, including the circumstances under which these things were offered and whether or not he accepted the offer, along with identifying the date, time and name of any other mongers who have experienced the same?

If you have a problem with any name that's included in the list, instead of babbling irrelevance grievances against the poster, you should have pointed out which providers will not give you an open menu or allow you to have BBFS. Of course that still doesn't make anything a fact. It merely means those services aren't available to you.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;4277372]I know for a fact that two of them do BBFS. Like I said, I haven't seen everyone on the list.

BFDeal.[/QUOTE]The OP said all those chicks do BBFS, he didn't say some he said all, he hasn't even seen all of them, so his post was misleading and bull shit, I know for a fact more than 2 of them he listed do, and I know for fact that he hasn't seen all of them so it's just misinformation.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;4278338]White knighting? Nope. You just keep using a word, "facts", that you clearly don't understand. Stick with words you know the meaning of and I'll go back to my popcorn.

"It should be. " Why? He simply listed women with an open menu who allow BBFS. Should he be required to give either a full report on each girl he's been with, including the circumstances under which these things were offered and whether or not he accepted the offer, along with identifying the date, time and name of any other mongers who have experienced the same?

If you have a problem with any name that's included in the list, instead of babbling irrelevance grievances against the poster, you should have pointed out which providers will not give you an open menu or allow you to have BBFS. Of course that still doesn't make anything a fact. It merely means those services aren't available to you.[/QUOTE]Fact he hasn't seen all the girls he listed, so it's just assumption, or hearsay or bullshit, he made the post as he has personal knowledge and he don't, so if that's okay then I can say all the DI girls do BBFS and are on illegal drugs. I can say that with s much certainty as he said what he did.

[QUOTE=Heritage1;4277939]EVERY single time, it's utterly impossible to be POSITIVE if someone does or does not give BBFS. It's the very definition of YMMV.[/QUOTE]He has not seen all the ladies he listed, I know that, so his post is just BS. You prove my point, if he's not been in the same dwelling as them, how can he say what they do or don't do?

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4278483]The OP said all those chicks do BBFS, he didn't say some he said all, he hasn't even seen all of them, so his post was misleading and bull shit, I know for a fact more than 2 of them he listed do, and I know for fact that he hasn't seen all of them so it's just misinformation.[/QUOTE]I got to come out of seclusion for this. You waste a lot of time caring about the whereabouts of other men's dicks. You also like to ramble on like you know so much about these ladies and the whereabouts of their vaginas. Then again some of these ladies are probably around you quite often so they can get their hands on your little "treat box" you keep at your place that they've taken a fancy to after you invited them over. The prickyard really gets your rocks off doesn't it?. Also, no need to verbally attack my body like you've done in the past. I know my thighs touch and I don't have the prepubescent boy's body type that you like. I just laugh about it because I've met you and you sir are no Jason Momoa and certainly far fetched from a ladies man. You take advantage of vulnerable women to get what you want and that makes you the ugliest POS walking. Lastly, you really need to lay your drama with FF to rest. That man's living his best days and know damn well is in the presence of a hot babe day in and day out. He's got better things to have on his mind then you.

Simpering like a baby, begging for facts. I really don't see what the big deal is. Those providers I know realize what he posted and don't seem to care, so why should you? We all have a choice whether we want to keep seeing these providers. Didn't realize you were the whining, baby-poop BBFS police. Have a donut. You'll feel better.

BFDeal.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4278483]The OP said all those chicks do BBFS, he didn't say some he said all, he hasn't even seen all of them, so his post was misleading and bull shit, I know for a fact more than 2 of them he listed do, and I know for fact that he hasn't seen all of them so it's just misinformation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Heritage1;4277939]UNLESS YOU WERE THERE - EVERY single time, it's utterly impossible to be POSITIVE if someone does or does not give BBFS. It's the very definition of YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4278483]I know for fact that he hasn't seen all of them.[/QUOTE]Heritage makes a good point. So with the ones according to you, that for a FACT he hasn't seen, have those girl (s) in question checked every clients ID in your presence and none of them said AaaGabriel812? Or do you know something that everyone else on this board doesn't know like everyones personal hobby digits and you set up every appointment for the girls that for a FACT he hasn't seen? Now if that's true then mongers on this board have a lot more to be worried about in regards to you intruding on privacy. My guess is the latter since Board Handles aren't on personal ID and any monger can say they are someone they aren't. Guess all us Mongers need to change our digits to be safe from you!

[QUOTE=PowerTool;4279011]Heritage makes a good point. So with the ones according to you, that for a FACT he hasn't seen, have those girl (s) in question checked every clients ID in your presence and none of them said AaaGabriel812? Or do you know something that everyone else on this board doesn't know like everyones personal hobby digits and you set up every appointment for the girls that for a FACT he hasn't seen? Now if that's true then mongers on this board have a lot more to be worried about in regards to you intruding on privacy. My guess is the latter since Board Handles aren't on personal ID and any monger can say they are someone they aren't. Guess all us Mongers need to change our digits to be safe from you![/QUOTE]And I Know AaaGabriel812"s hobby digits, I know his hobby name and real name, I know what he looks like and I know he is / was FF and I know he hasn't seen all the girls he reported on like he has seen tyhem.

Who cares? Everyone does BBFS with someone, even your moms did it once. Stfu and get laid.

[QUOTE=frecklefreak;4279011]Heritage makes a good point. So with the ones according to you, that for a FACT he hasn't seen, have those girl (s) in question checked every clients ID in your presence and none of them said AaaGabriel812? Or do you know something that everyone else on this board doesn't know like everyones personal hobby digits and you set up every appointment for the girls that for a FACT he hasn't seen? Now if that's true then mongers on this board have a lot more to be worried about in regards to you intruding on privacy. My guess is the latter since Board Handles aren't on personal ID and any monger can say they are someone they aren't. Guess all us Mongers need to change our digits to be safe from you![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VixenRed;4278766]I got to come out of seclusion for this. You waste a lot of time caring about the whereabouts of other men's dicks. You also like to ramble on like you know so much about these ladies and the whereabouts of their vaginas. Then again some of these ladies are probably around you quite often so they can get their hands on your little "treat box" you keep at your place that they've taken a fancy to after you invited them over. The prickyard really gets your rocks off doesn't it?. Also, no need to verbally attack my body like you've done in the past. I know my thighs touch and I don't have the prepubescent boy's body type that you like. I just laugh about it because I've met you and you sir are no Jason Momoa and certainly far fetched from a ladies man. You take advantage of vulnerable women to get what you want and that makes you the ugliest POS walking. Lastly, you really need to lay your drama with FF to rest. That man's living his best days and know damn well is in the presence of a hot babe day in and day out. He's got better things to have on his mind then you.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I don't get all the bitter back and forth over this topic. Find a lady (or ladies) you like, and who give (s) you what you want, and enjoy! Who cares about what anyone else wants, does or thinks? And all these ladies are perfectly capable of defending themselves, and setting the record straight if they feel the need. Remember, in all cases YMMV.

And BTW Vixen, whether your thighs touch or not (didn't really notice; your legs were apart most of the time), while I've only had the pleasure of your company once, I thoroughly enjoyed myself!

Be safe ALL.

[QUOTE=PowerTool;4279011]Heritage makes a good point. So with the ones according to you, that for a FACT he hasn't seen, have those girl (s) in question checked every clients ID in your presence and none of them said AaaGabriel812? Or do you know something that everyone else on this board doesn't know like everyones personal hobby digits and you set up every appointment for the girls that for a FACT he hasn't seen? Now if that's true then mongers on this board have a lot more to be worried about in regards to you intruding on privacy. My guess is the latter since Board Handles aren't on personal ID and any monger can say they are someone they aren't. Guess all us Mongers need to change our digits to be safe from you![/QUOTE]On bob0324 ? Seriously we all know he is just some parasites that sits behind his keyboard jacking off to all of this. This is how he gets off. The more we feed into it the more he gets his jollies from it. We all know what kind of sick man this is and what he truly is about. He is a lonely pathetic Grown ass man that has never better to do than throw cheap shots at people and start shit. What truly kills me is if any of those providers on that list have seen him then they need to get their head examined. I would never ever see someone like this. Obviously it's pretty clear the man has some mental issues.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4279023]And I Know AaaGabriel812"s hobby digits, I know his hobby name and real name, I know what he looks like and I know he is / was FF and I know he hasn't seen all the girls he reported on like he has seen tyhem.[/QUOTE]Dude, you are scary. I can't believe you post this stuff on the board.

[QUOTE=VixenRed;4279417]
I got to come out of seclusion for this. You waste a lot of time caring about the whereabouts of other men's dicks. You also like to ramble on like you know so much about these ladies and the whereabouts of their vaginas. Then again some of these ladies are probably around you quite often so they can get their hands on your little "treat box" you keep at your place that they've taken a fancy to after you invited them over. The prickyard really gets your rocks off doesn't it?. Also, no need to verbally attack my body like you've done in the past. I know my thighs touch and I don't have the prepubescent boy's body type that you like. I just laugh about it because I've met you and you sir are no Jason Momoa and certainly far fetched from a ladies man. You take advantage of vulnerable women to get what you want and that makes you the ugliest POS walking. Lastly, you really need to lay your drama with FF to rest. That man's living his best days and know damn well is in the presence of a hot babe day in and day out. He's got better things to have on his mind then you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpinAndWin85;4279417]Thank you! I don't get all the bitter back and forth over this topic. Find a lady (or ladies) you like, and who give (s) you what you want, and enjoy! Who cares about what anyone else wants, does or thinks? And all these ladies are perfectly capable of defending themselves, and setting the record straight if they feel the need. Remember, in all cases YMMV.

And BTW Vixen, whether your thighs touch or not (didn't really notice; your legs were apart most of the time), while I've only had the pleasure of your company once, I thoroughly enjoyed myself!

Be safe ALL.[/QUOTE]Frecklefreak aka AaaGabriel812 posted about shit he doesn't know as if he knew. It's not about the ladies or anything else, it's about a bullshit post. His post is just as valauable as saying Vixen red is a hot spinner that uses drugs and BBFS anyone for 50 cents, if either of you have a problem with that statement, then your hipocrites.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4279023]And I Know AaaGabriel812"s hobby digits, I know his hobby name and real name, I know what he looks like and I know he is / was FF and I know he hasn't seen all the girls he reported on like he has seen tyhem.[/QUOTE]It is like A2 says. Unless you are in the room, you do not know what happened. In this case, unless you can provide some facts, it is all hearsay. I could jump on here and say I know anyone's name, number, and who they have and haven't seen. Doesn't make it a fact.

Quite frankly who the hell cares? You always want to rant and rave about FF or another handle that may or may not be him. Who cares? This is coming from the guy who had 3 or 4 handles banned by A2 and under each one of them tried to act like you were not the same person.

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4279646]It is like A2 says. Unless you are in the room, you do not know what happened. In this case, unless you can provide some facts, it is all hearsay. I could jump on here and say I know anyone's name, number, and who they have and haven't seen. Doesn't make it a fact.

Quite frankly who the hell cares? You always want to rant and rave about FF or another handle that may or may not be him. Who cares? This is coming from the guy who had 3 or 4 handles banned by A2 and under each one of them tried to act like you were not the same person.

Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]He wasn't in the room with some of the girls he says he was, you guys are good about coming up with shit and avoid the issue.

So why does this surprise anyone? Whether you love him, hate him, or really don't care, there's really not much of a questions that "resident pharmacist" or something like it is used in multiple noncontextual posts and has been for years now. The beef with Bob goes back a loooooong time. FF enjoys poking the bear, and I think I know him well enough that he would even admit this. So for those of you who are jumping on Bob because Bob swings back when someone swings at him, go back and count how many times these things have been said with absolutely zero context or zero relevance. That being said, this is the Prickyard, so anyone is welcome to say whatever they choose. I'm just saying that in this most recent dust up and MANY others like it, Bob has had nothing to do originating the unpleasantries. If the cattiness is unpleasant, even a tiny bit of critical thinking will show you who it virtually always is that takes the first swing. If you've been around these forums, or even years ago in the NR days, and haven't noticed that, then you haven't been paying attention, which probably makes you a better man than me.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program, WWE Friday Night Raw.

[QUOTE=Mmgeg1;4279508]On bob0324 ? Seriously we all know he is just some parasites that sits behind his keyboard jacking off to all of this. This is how he gets off. The more we feed into it the more he gets his jollies from it. We all know what kind of sick man this is and what he truly is about. He is a lonely pathetic Grown ass man that has never better to do than throw cheap shots at people and start shit. What truly kills me is if any of those providers on that list have seen him then they need to get their head examined. I would never ever see someone like this. Obviously it's pretty clear the man has some mental issues.[/QUOTE]To go through life being a sex worker, then add stupid on it, poor thing. I don't throw cheap shots, maybe you should have someone read for you, all this shit started bc some loser says shit about providers he hasn't even seen.

I can "bare"ly contain myself. That one came out of nowhere. Get a load of this guy. He just stiffed his competition. It would be hard to top that.

I'll stop now, just pass me some more popcorn.

Kyussfan.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4278487]Fact he hasn't seen all the girls he listed, so it's just assumption, or hearsay or bullshit, he made the post as he has personal knowledge and he don't, so if that's okay then I can say all the DI girls do BBFS and are on illegal drugs. I can say that with s much certainty as he said what he did.[/QUOTE]"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ".

Let me help you out here. He can put anything he wants in his posts. You can put anything you want in your posts. It's up to the reader to decide which posts are more accurate. If you feel something in his post is inaccurate, then you should correct the error. This works much better than throwing a temper tantrum every time he posts.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4279636]Frecklefreak aka AaaGabriel812 posted about shit he doesn't know as if he knew. It's not about the ladies or anything else, it's about a bullshit post. His post is just as valauable as saying Vixen red is a hot spinner that uses drugs and BBFS anyone for 50 cents, if either of you have a problem with that statement, then your hipocrites.[/QUOTE]No Bob. You're missing the whole point. The whole point is that you and FF have a continuous argument going. That's the only point in this discussion. FF takes a poke at you and then you run around and scream at everyone for the next 3 weeks. 6 weeks later, he pokes again and you show everyone why he keeps poking you. Every single time he gets the same reaction out of you. He just sits back and laughs while you run around attacking everyone like an angry, toothless Chihuahua.

Every time you make things worse for yourself, by following the same course. You could have just pointed out which girls don't do BBFS. There would have been some discussion about YMMV, but you would end making a good impression. No name calling, no whining, no constant repetition of "facts" that aren't facts. Simply useful information based on your experience. What a concept.

One final time I will attempt to explain "facts" to you.

Whether or not 2 people have ever been together can never be a fact, unless the person calling it a fact was, not only in the same room, but has video, from every angle to back up the fact. Assuming the 2 people in question have spent part of their lives in reasonable proximity, unless you have been with 1 of them 24/7, for their entire life, "he hasn't been with her" isn't a fact. It's not possible to prove a negative.

Even from the viewpoint of the 2 people involved (or not involved), the encounter isn't a fact. People perceive things differently, memories fade and change. And people lie. That's without going into mental health issues, or substance abuse issues.

Facts are solid, unquestionable things. Things which can be tested and verified. If you have a syringe loaded with a drug, you're holding a fact. Whatever is in the syringe can be tested and every compound can be identified. A syringe loaded with heroin isn't going to change to penicillin.

Reviews, of any kind, aren't facts. They are always a mix of imperfect memories, exaggeration, self-promotion, individual perception and purpose.

Now, would you please stop calling everything a "fact?" You could try "my sources tell me", or "from what I've heard", or even "my experience is. ".

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;4280476]"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ".

Let me help you out here. He can put anything he wants in his posts. You can put anything you want in your posts. It's up to the reader to decide which posts are more accurate. If you feel something in his post is inaccurate, then you should correct the error. This works much better than throwing a temper tantrum every time he posts.[/QUOTE]I'm not the one that's thrown a temper tantrum, I said it's a fact his post is bullshit, and that started a shit storm, so you see how hypocritical you are.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;4279646]It is like A2 says. Unless you are in the room, you do not know what happened. In this case, unless you can provide some facts, it is all hearsay. I could jump on here and say I know anyone's name, number, and who they have and haven't seen. Doesn't make it a fact.

Quite frankly who the hell cares? You always want to rant and rave about FF or another handle that may or may not be him. Who cares? This is coming from the guy who had 3 or 4 handles banned by A2 and under each one of them tried to act like you were not the same person.

Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]Don't anyone get their feelings hurt. It's all about the pussy game and we all are just crazy about that sweet stuff. Don't get your panties in a wad.

Have fun, play safe, do your research, give and get respect, find some crazy good and TPHFB!

I hope the biggest Prick in the yard is living the dream!

The biguy!

He pokes at me with about every post he makes, I don't care, fact is he has not seen all the girls he said he seen. If you want to meet somewhere I can show you proof of that, it is a fact.

I can't point out which girl do and don't do bareback because I haven't seen all of them, neither has he. I was just simply letting people know his post was bullshit, that's the point that you're too stupid or too much uop his ass to realize. If anyone else's handle was on the OP I would have done the same and it wouldn't have been this shit storm. Hypocrites.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;4280517]No Bob. You're missing the whole point. The whole point is that you and FF have a continuous argument going. That's the only point in this discussion. FF takes a poke at you and then you run around and scream at everyone for the next 3 weeks. 6 weeks later, he pokes again and you show everyone why he keeps poking you. Every single time he gets the same reaction out of you. He just sits back and laughs while you run around attacking everyone like an angry, toothless Chihuahua.

Every time you make things worse for yourself, by following the same course. You could have just pointed out which girls don't do BBFS. There would have been some discussion about YMMV, but you would end making a good impression. No name calling, no whining, no constant repetition of "facts" that aren't facts. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4281210]He pokes at me with about every post he makes, I don't care, fact is he has not seen all the girls he said he seen. If you want to meet somewhere I can show you proof of that, it is a fact.

I can't point out which girl do and don't do bareback because I haven't seen all of them, neither has he. I was just simply letting people know his post was bullshit, that's the point that you're too stupid or too much uop his ass to realize. If anyone else's handle was on the OP I would have done the same and it wouldn't have been this shit storm. Hypocrites.[/QUOTE]No Bobo. Once again you're mistaken. You're always the one who responds to any criticism with names and insults. You overreact and by doing so, convince almost everyone that he must be right. He lets out a tiny fart and you turn it into a shit storm. Every. Single. Time.

You keep calling me stupid, but after several detailed explanations, including examples you are still misusing the word "fact. " Now you've added a redundancy with "proof. " A fact, by its nature, requires no proof. It would be like riding a bike every day for a year and then someone asking you to prove it is a bike. Now if you told the person it's the best bike in the world, that's not a fact, even if it has been awarded with the title "Best Bike in the World. " That's a subjective opinion.

Here's a fact: He did not say, in the original post, that he has had BBFS sessions with every name he listed. This is a fact. The post is there for everyone to read. Nowhere in the post is there even an insinuation that he has been with everyone on the list. Nobody else got that from the post. However, instead of addressing the content of the post, you started running around, pissing all over yourself, screaming "facts" about a "fact" that only exists in your own mind.

If, as you say, the post is complete bullshit, it can only be complete bullshit if every single provider listed has never offered BBFS to anyone. It's only partially bullshit if 1 or more providers has never offered BBFS to anyone. Address the content of the post and stop babbling irrelevant, subjective opinions about the poster. The list itself is just subjective opinion. Everyone understands that YMMV.

You even make it worse for yourself. You admit, you have no idea if all the providers listed offer BBFS. You won't even be helpful by verifying the names that you know, from experience. Not once in 15? 20? Responses have you addressed a single name on the list. You're only interested in turning it into a shit storm of narcissistic rage.

I almost never turn down requests to meet with other mongers. However, there's 3 reasons why I have no interest in meeting up with you:

1. I'm seldom in Indy these days. It's not worth the drive for you to show me "proof" about a "fact", that's irrelevant and only subjective opinion.

2. I've had more than enough experience your particular personality disorder to willingly seek out personal contact with you.

3. Out of all your posts, I haven't seen a single one that generates any interest in meeting you. There's nothing of substance to make me the least bit curious.

Stop trying to fix FF. For better or worse, he's not going to change.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;4281561]

Here's a fact: He did not say, in the original post, that he has had BBFS sessions with every name he listed. This is a fact. The post is there for everyone to read. Nowhere in the post is there even an insinuation that he has been with everyone on the list. Nobody else got that from the post. However, instead of addressing the content of the post, you started running around, pissing all over yourself, screaming "facts" about a "fact" that only exists in your own mind.

If, as you say, the post is complete bullshit, it can only be complete bullshit if every single provider listed has never offered BBFS to anyone. It's only partially bullshit if 1 or more providers has never offered BBFS to anyone.[/QUOTE]Oy you're still trying to twist things, yes his whole post is bull shit, are you stupid enough to think that the Op doesn't make it sound like he has personal knowledge of this? And yes the entire post is bullshit because he doesn't have personal knowledge, so why wouldn't he just list every provider in town ii he's going to list any he hasn't seen?

You're a hypocrite. If the OP was anybody else, you and the others wouldn't have said shit. And you don't want to meet me because you know it's a fact his post is bullshit, no other reason. Maybe have someone who is not a moron, redat the below that started you guys crying and whining.

The original post.

[QUOTE=AaaGabriel812;4270175]These providers provide an open menu including BBFS, however not sure about greek because it's not my thing so I don't ask. Now the open menu can vary depending on the contribution amount or if you supply pharma's like our local resident pharmacist member does.

Massage Katie, Chevy Nova, Little Nicki, Massage Jamie, Milfy, Catherine Teacher, Bri, Cherry Pie, Paris, Babygotback, Charli and Cheyenne just to name a few.[/QUOTE]My post about the original post, there is some reason this started a shit storm?

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4270394]It's a fact that he hasn't even seen at least 2 of these chicks, so what is this? Hearsay? Or just trying to trash girls that won't do what he wants.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4281823]Oy you're still trying to twist things, yes his whole post is bull shit, are you stupid enough to think that the Op doesn't make it sound like he has personal knowledge of this? And yes the entire post is bullshit because he doesn't have personal knowledge, so why wouldn't he just list every provider in town ii he's going to list any he hasn't seen?

You're a hypocrite. If the OP was anybody else, you and the others wouldn't have said shit. And you don't want to meet me because you know it's a fact his post is bullshit, no other reason. Maybe have someone who is not a moron, redat the below that started you guys crying and whining.

The original post.

My post about the original post, there is some reason this started a shit storm?[/QUOTE]You must be right, since you keep repeating the same thing over and over. Maybe you can use that astonishing intellect to help me out with some other questions.

1. If someone asks where they can get a steak dinner, and I list 10 places that I say serve steak, is my list complete bullshit, if I haven't had a steak dinner at each place? What if I went there with friends, but none of us actually ordered steak?

2. If someone posts that they are flying into Indy and they want to know what rental car companies have cars at the airport, is it complete bullshit if I mention Hertz, although I only rent from Avis?

3. If I list 7 AMPs that offer FS, is it complete bullshit if, even though I've gotten FS at 7 Indy AMPs, some of those are closed, or no longer offer FS? What about open AMPs where I was offered FS, but only had enough for a standard finish?

It's so confusing.

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;4288167]You must be right, since you keep repeating the same thing over and over. Maybe you can use that astonishing intellect to help me out with some other questions.

1. If someone asks where they can get a steak dinner, and I list 10 places that I say serve steak, is my list complete bullshit, if I haven't had a steak dinner at each place? What if I went there with friends, but none of us actually ordered steak?

2. If someone posts that they are flying into Indy and they want to know what rental car companies have cars at the airport, is it complete bullshit if I mention Hertz, although I only rent from Avis?

3. If I list 7 AMPs that offer FS, is it complete bullshit if, even though I've gotten FS at 7 Indy AMPs, some of those are closed, or no longer offer FS? What about open AMPs where I was offered FS, but only had enough for a standard finish?

It's so confusing.[/QUOTE]You must be dense, nobody asked anything the OP made a post and lied, pretty simple, nothing you just rambled about is relevant.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4289262]You must be dense, nobody asked anything the OP made a post and lied, pretty simple, nothing you just rambled about is relevant.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but. Have you ever considered they like getting you riled up? More time spent here is less time for you searching for the same women the rest of us are ha ha.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;4289262]You must be dense, nobody asked anything the OP made a post and lied, pretty simple, nothing you just rambled about is relevant.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I have to wonder just how effective this broad in Indy is with race weekend is and nothing new to talk about.

My first post in this section, but does anyone else get crapped on like this? I've got this one provider who I sent money to as a one time advance toward a promised future visit via Cash App several months ago; she's basically blown me off for the last several months after getting out of the hospital due to her well known and long term pharma issues, sent me a text the other night out of the blue asking if I was available, followed by another late night text last night that made no sense and now sends me a Cash App money request without any kind of explanation or other courtesy. Sorry, but I am sick of getting played by certain manipulative providers and I am cutting this crap off right now. If anyone else has had this experience with certain providers, just be aware that you aren't alone. That's all I've got to say. J.

[QUOTE=Fstrxtsy78;4299461]My first post in this section, but does anyone else get crapped on like this? I've got this one provider who I sent money to as a one time advance toward a promised future visit via Cash App several months ago; she's basically blown me off for the last several months after getting out of the hospital due to her well known and long term pharma issues, sent me a text the other night out of the blue asking if I was available, followed by another late night text last night that made no sense and now sends me a Cash App money request without any kind of explanation or other courtesy. Sorry, but I am sick of getting played by certain manipulative providers and I am cutting this crap off right now. If anyone else has had this experience with certain providers, just be aware that you aren't alone. That's all I've got to say. J.[/QUOTE]Would you pre-pay with any expectations for service? I have only known 3 providers in 20 years who I pre-paid and received service. 3 out of at least 200, so that's 1.5%. I would have been better off playing the lottery, better odds.

[QUOTE=AaaGabriel812;4300601]Would you pre-pay with any expectations for service? I have only known 3 providers in 20 years who I pre-paid and received service. 3 out of at least 200, so that's 1.5%. I would have been better off playing the lottery, better odds.[/QUOTE]While I do not have near the experience of the 200 mentioned, I have pre-paid with only 2 providers and have always received appropriate service at a later time. In both cases, we had seen each several times before the subject was even broached. It's a matter of trust, something develops over time. And something that is rightly in short supply in this hobby. BTW, odds of winning the lottery, w-a-why less than 1. 5%. Just my two cents. Be safe. F69.

[QUOTE=AaaGabriel812;4300601]Would you pre-pay with any expectations for service? I have only known 3 providers in 20 years who I pre-paid and received service. 3 out of at least 200, so that's 1.5%. I would have been better off playing the lottery, better odds.[/QUOTE]Like the other gentleman says, it was a matter of trust with this one provider that has been breached some time ago. I just thought it was kind of brazen of her to send a money request from out of nowhere when we hadn't even texted in months or even discussed meeting. Like the Gipper used to say, "Trust, but verify". I've always had good experience with a couple of mainstays in this hobby, but this one in particular took advantage so any trust that was there at first is long gone. You can't do this with everyone, but I have an SA friend that is good for it and hasn't disappointed me so far. As far as the other one I'm referring to, I'm sure she'll continue to have a following; it just won't include me. J.

[QUOTE=SpinAndWin85;4318758]Totally false news. Those undoubtedly are rumors spread by a couple of other providers. Jane Kim is NOT working with LE and is a damn good provider! PM me if you'd like further details, but she's safe![/QUOTE]Speaking of snakes. No one she is working for LE. No one is spreading rumors it's called the truth and not just providers that have spoken out FYI. I am not doubting she is a good provider. I'm discussing her character and whether I would feel safe with someone like her having my personal information. That answer is hell no. Now she can use the sayings of oops I am new to the hobby (lie) , I was on a hiatus (lie) working in Kentucky, she has changed her name 4 times (hmm red flag) , and everything that anyone has stated is on record. I have been on this board for about 3 years now and I am very quick to defend any provider out here that Is getting bashed for no reason. I'm sorry she is not one of them. I don't go around bashing anyone (unlike you) for no reason. People on this forum so know that about me. As I have always said to each their own. I would just be very cautious And limit the amount of personal info.

[QUOTE=Fstrxtsy78;4299461]My first post in this section, but does anyone else get crapped on like this? I've got this one provider who I sent money to as a one time advance toward a promised future visit via Cash App several months ago; she's basically blown me off for the last several months after getting out of the hospital due to her well known and long term pharma issues, sent me a text the other night out of the blue asking if I was available, followed by another late night text last night that made no sense and now sends me a Cash App money request without any kind of explanation or other courtesy. Sorry, but I am sick of getting played by certain manipulative providers and I am cutting this crap off right now. If anyone else has had this experience with certain providers, just be aware that you aren't alone. That's all I've got to say. J.[/QUOTE]I rarely prepay for anything, I was dreaming of a person on a regular basis so everything was good until she asked me to put a deposit down since people have ripped her off. While very possible because it's a two way street and the reality is that I do happens I never have not taking care of her, immediately a big red flag went up so I told her either normal agreement or no dream and guess what crickets after that. For some of you it may be situations that may be different but as a general rule for me no prepayment period.

[QUOTE=Mmgeg1;4318835]Speaking of snakes. No one she is working for LE. No one is spreading rumors it's called the truth and not just providers that have spoken out FYI. I am not doubting she is a good provider. I'm discussing her character and whether I would feel safe with someone like her having my personal information. That answer is hell no. Now she can use the sayings of oops I am new to the hobby (lie) , I was on a hiatus (lie) working in Kentucky, she has changed her name 4 times (hmm red flag) , and everything that anyone has stated is on record. I have been on this board for about 3 years now and I am very quick to defend any provider out here that Is getting bashed for no reason. I'm sorry she is not one of them. I don't go around bashing anyone (unlike you) for no reason. People on this forum so know that about me. As I have always said to each their own. I would just be very cautious And limit the amount of personal info.[/QUOTE]Apparently no one gets a second chance in this business. Mongers, PM me if you want further, truthful info on Jane Kim. And for the record, I don't bash anyone for no reason either. I just call 'em like I see 'em. Good or bad. If more of us did that on these forums, it would save us all a lot of time and money. Be safe!

[QUOTE=SpinAndWin85;4319932]Apparently no one gets a second chance in this business. Mongers, PM me if you want further info on Jane Kim.[/QUOTE]But when it comes down to talking to police without any reason to, among the other things that went on during the course of this. Ordeal. I'm sorry no. When she contacted me out of the blue (mind you after the whole ordeal)! And told me straight lies (I'm new to Indy, I'm new to the business, I have no friends here etc etc) just to make me feel sorry for her. Nope. When I did call her out she sang a different tune then. I have the text messages saved. You can believe what you want to believe and trust her with your personal info that's cool. Perhaps you could purchase the house that she has asked mongers to purchase for to " work out of " . Opinions are like what? A* I will continue if someone asks me about her to express my opinion. I always have each monger (even you) best interests at heart and their safety is important to me. She wasn't working when this ordeal came to a head and still discussed things with the police. Now Imagine if she was working. To each their own. Remember one thing. This is what this forum is about is to keep mongers safe.

Sound like there's a White Knight at the round table.

Kyussfan.

Breakout a cold one and see what happens!

BG,

Have fun, play safe, do your research, give and get respect, find some crazy-good and TPHFB!

[QUOTE=Kyussfan;4320015]Sound like there's a White Knight at the round table.

Kyussfan.[/QUOTE]