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[QUOTE=GoatTrotter;5257715]Why bother? Same experience. As someone said before she was covered before so she must not be taking any more risks.
You probably got mesmerized by those tits. Don't look directly at them lmao.[/QUOTE]Covered on on the forum. Only thing covered with her with level one would be her hand in a plastic glove. I flag her CL and every time I see it.
Have an fwb who is interested in getting a massage from a euro or hispanic female with at least L1. Any recommendations? You can pm me.
[QUOTE=SamSpade;5253599]Vera used to have a stable of good looking eastern Euros who worked out of the back of a little ethnic grocery store in Buffalo Grove. And 12+ years ago it was great. That place got shut down and when I would contact her I'd be send to apartments along Milwaukee Ave, then a rundown office building next to Lux. Every time the number of girls would decrease until finally it was just her. Then she started to make excuses every time I tried to set up an appointment with her, and I gave up. As for Avita, I found that it has the same cell number as when I did contact Vera. I made an appointment last fall. Sure enough it was her. She'd gained some weight in the years that I saw her last. I mentioned to her at the beginning of the session that I used to visit her and her girls at all of the above places. "Yes Sam, I remember you. " But the massage was covered from beginning to end, with me under blankets and not a hint. My reminding her that I was a customer from way back did nothing to change her mind. Skunked. This is a shame, because her massage was actually pretty good.[/QUOTE]I think Vera was maybe the first Euro massage back in the day. That's when you would get the Sun Times and look in the sports section for the massage parlors. Yes before the Al Gore invented the internet.
I have been to her offices inside the medical office in Buffalo grove, yes the office by Lux, the office by super Dawg, the office across the street from supper Dawg, little ethnic grocery store, the beauty shop by Dundee and Milwaukee.
Did I miss any?
[QUOTE=SamSpade;5253599]Vera used to have a stable of good looking eastern Euros who worked out of the back of a little ethnic grocery store in Buffalo Grove. And 12+ years ago it was great. That place got shut down and when I would contact her I'd be send to apartments along Milwaukee Ave, then a rundown office building next to Lux. Every time the number of girls would decrease until finally it was just her. Then she started to make excuses every time I tried to set up an appointment with her, and I gave up. As for Avita, I found that it has the same cell number as when I did contact Vera. I made an appointment last fall. Sure enough it was her. She'd gained some weight in the years that I saw her last. I mentioned to her at the beginning of the session that I used to visit her and her girls at all of the above places. "Yes Sam, I remember you. " But the massage was covered from beginning to end, with me under blankets and not a hint. My reminding her that I was a customer from way back did nothing to change her mind. Skunked. This is a shame, because her massage was actually pretty good.[/QUOTE]Makes me wonder if she didn't get busted at some point, but I checked, and her license is still valid until 2022. No priors.
The Avita number also connects to a 20-something who shares Vera's (what I assumed to be) maiden name. No massage license. Maybe she just takes the calls? What a bummer. Birds of a feather usually.
I think we just need to move to Florida or California. [URL]MassageFinder.com[/URL] has tons of hot milfs / women all there but not here. Sigh. Oh yeah, I also need to win the lotto to afford this hobby.
Third time at Mantra. Nice massage but not the best. No L1. Yes, those tits had me coming back wishful thinking I'd get something. Yes, resist the tits, LOL.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;5269427]Third time at Mantra. Nice massage but not the best. No L1. Yes, those tits had me coming back wishful thinking I'd get something. Yes, resist the tits, LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she'll swing her frame directly over your face when she massages your chest. Reaching out for roaming never worked. She'll shift away, just out of your reach.
It took me the first visit with SS and a follow-up for L1. The L1 wasn't great. She's obviously playing it safe now. She also knows about this forum, judging by the glowing commentary previously made by an obviously fake client with one post to their name.
Had a different experience with Sophie. Walked in and was greeted by a super hot younger beauty. She was rockin yoga pants and a crop top showing tons of cleavage. The massage was undraped so I figured it would be fun. Ended up being just a legit massage so I was quite confused. I might try again and see if the second time does the trick. Any advise?
[URL]https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bts/d/chicago-logan-square-bodyworker/7286702946.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=BSP5281;5270302]Had a different experience with Sophie. Walked in and was greeted by a super hot younger beauty. She was rockin yoga pants and a crop top showing tons of cleavage. The massage was undraped so I figured it would be fun. Ended up being just a legit massage so I was quite confused. I might try again and see if the second time does the trick. Any advise?
[URL]https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bts/d/chicago-logan-square-bodyworker/7286702946.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Had a dream with Sarah a few years ago. Topless, ass out (no kitty touch), HE. Fantastic boobs and ass. I guess YMMV.
[QUOTE=BSP5281;5270302]Had a different experience with Sophie. Walked in and was greeted by a super hot younger beauty. She was rockin yoga pants and a crop top showing tons of cleavage. The massage was undraped so I figured it would be fun. Ended up being just a legit massage so I was quite confused. I might try again and see if the second time does the trick. Any advise?
[URL]https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bts/d/chicago-logan-square-bodyworker/7286702946.html[/URL][/QUOTE]And was the massage decent quality?
I've seen other reviews for Sophie that are similar to yours all from first time visitors.
I visited her last week. Same experience as you. Good massage and nothing else. She's very pretty, so I'm not sure I want to give up just yet. Some MTs seem to keep it legit for the first session. Maybe she does? LMK if you go again.
[QUOTE=BSP5281;5270302]Had a different experience with Sophie. Walked in and was greeted by a super hot younger beauty. She was rockin yoga pants and a crop top showing tons of cleavage. The massage was undraped so I figured it would be fun. Ended up being just a legit massage so I was quite confused. I might try again and see if the second time does the trick. Any advise?
[URL]https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bts/d/chicago-logan-square-bodyworker/7286702946.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;5271219]And was the massage decent quality?
I've seen other reviews for Sophie that are similar to yours all from first time visitors.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5270957]Had a dream with Sarah a few years ago. Topless, ass out (no kitty touch), HE. Fantastic boobs and ass. I guess YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. The massage was 80 for the hr and it was not great but it was pretty good. Ill have to give it another try soon and see if my luck changes.
Besides Mantra, has anyone experienced extras with other hair removal technicians? Always open to PM's.
I noticed this one on CL. Looks mature and attractive. For trimming, she charges 20 per 15-minute increment and claims to be an LMT. Seems like an inexpensive TOFTT.
[URL]https://waxbyjax.com/[/URL]
I once saw the older CL blonde near Indian Boundary Park for a shave, before she suddenly changed her operation to waxing only. I honestly never understood how switching up the service would alter public impressions about not offering extras. She seemed congenial and professional. Even still, she definitely needed to rest her hand on the side of my flagpole at one point to make room for the trimmer. I didn't try SS. I had an appointment with the now-defunct [URL]MassagebySasha.com[/URL], the older Northshore Euro who was recovering from brain surgery, due to tumor removal. (Whatever happened to her? She still alive?)
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5271702]Besides Mantra, has anyone experienced extras with other hair removal technicians? Always open to PM's.
I noticed this one on CL. Looks mature and attractive. For trimming, she charges 20 per 15-minute increment and claims to be an LMT. Seems like an inexpensive TOFTT.
[URL]https://waxbyjax.com/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Never tried her. She seems legit and warns about booting if you misbehave. PM if you toftt. 2 pics seem decades apart.
I've fairly regularly used a few but never had luck.
MM is a tease as mentioned before.
IBP lady is pro. She prolly switched because less guys would hassle her compared to shaving. Not everyone can handle waxing. Some dude would call her just to talk.
Was a Latina by Wrigley but she closed shop since the pandemic.
[QUOTE=GoatTrotter;5272220]Never tried her. She seems legit and warns about booting if you misbehave. PM if you toftt. 2 pics seem decades apart.
I've fairly regularly used a few but never had luck.
MM is a tease as mentioned before.
IBP lady is pro. She prolly switched because less guys would hassle her compared to shaving. Not everyone can handle waxing. Some dude would call her just to talk.
Was a Latina by Wrigley but she closed shop since the pandemic.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the input. Also should probably throw this out there to guys new to the game to tread lightly with the hair techs. I got lucky with one in suburban Milwaukee, but that was years ago and due to a referral by somebody already in the know.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5271702]Besides Mantra, has anyone experienced extras with other hair removal technicians? Always open to PM's.
I noticed this one on CL. Looks mature and attractive. For trimming, she charges 20 per 15-minute increment and claims to be an LMT. Seems like an inexpensive TOFTT.
[URL]https://waxbyjax.com/[/URL]
I once saw the older CL blonde near Indian Boundary Park for a shave, before she suddenly changed her operation to waxing only. I honestly never understood how switching up the service would alter public impressions about not offering extras. She seemed congenial and professional. Even still, she definitely needed to rest her hand on the side of my flagpole at one point to make room for the trimmer. I didn't try SS. I had an appointment with the now-defunct [URL]MassagebySasha.com[/URL], the older Northshore Euro who was recovering from brain surgery, due to tumor removal. (Whatever happened to her? She still alive?)[/QUOTE]I did a waxing a few years ago at an LA Tan in the west burbs (forget which). Tech was Amina I believe, petite AA girl. First off, ouch. Serious ouch. Then the oil application at the end was nice and I kept asking not to stop and then she started the HE and I tipped. 6. Went back a second time because it is supposed to be easier and less painful. Wrong! Same tech, same HE with UTC on her ass, same tip. After that that particular LA Tan closed down I think. Never saw her again. Truth be told, not doing another pain session unless I have a 20-something girlfriend who promises to jump my bones if I do it. .
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5272993]I did a waxing a few years ago at an LA Tan in the west burbs (forget which). Tech was Amina I believe, petite AA girl. First off, ouch. Serious ouch. Then the oil application at the end was nice and I kept asking not to stop and then she started the HE and I tipped. 6. Went back a second time because it is supposed to be easier and less painful. Wrong! Same tech, same HE with UTC on her ass, same tip. After that that particular LA Tan closed down I think. Never saw her again. Truth be told, not doing another pain session unless I have a 20-something girlfriend who promises to jump my bones if I do it. .[/QUOTE]Just my two cents, but with the Deshaun Watson thing playing out, the AMP shootings, perhaps TOFTT, and trying to "convert" some of these attractive, yet very legit ads that pop up, isn't the best course of action right now. An UTR Euro without much ties here, is one thing. An Americanized lady who just happens to look Euro, but is not a native, waxing away, prolly best to use caution.
[QUOTE=BSP5281;5271626]Thanks for the input. The massage was 80 for the hr and it was not great but it was pretty good. Ill have to give it another try soon and see if my luck changes.[/QUOTE]Hope your luck will change for sure best regards.
Norwood phone remains disconnected. I haven't been able to drive over to check it out in person. Does anyone know what happened and where the girls went, especially Natalie?
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5271702]Besides Mantra, has anyone experienced extras with other hair removal technicians? Always open to PM's.
I noticed this one on CL. Looks mature and attractive. For trimming, she charges 20 per 15-minute increment and claims to be an LMT. Seems like an inexpensive TOFTT.
[URL]https://waxbyjax.com/[/URL]
I once saw the older CL blonde near Indian Boundary Park for a shave, before she suddenly changed her operation to waxing only. I honestly never understood how switching up the service would alter public impressions about not offering extras. She seemed congenial and professional. Even still, she definitely needed to rest her hand on the side of my flagpole at one point to make room for the trimmer. I didn't try SS. I had an appointment with the now-defunct [URL]MassagebySasha.com[/URL], the older Northshore Euro who was recovering from brain surgery, due to tumor removal. (Whatever happened to her? She still alive?)[/QUOTE]I saw Sasha before and after her surgery. I even saw her in DC. While I was in a business trip. She still did a great job. Wondering what happened to her.
[QUOTE=BSP5281;5271626]Thanks for the input. The massage was 80 for the hr and it was not great but it was pretty good. Ill have to give it another try soon and see if my luck changes.[/QUOTE]I tried her 3-4 times with the hope of getting more, but nothing had happened. I think that she felt comfortable with me but I think that she does not do any extra. Massage is not bad and she is very pretty.
[QUOTE=SammiJoon;5284880]I tried her 3-4 times with the hope of getting more, but nothing had happened. I think that she felt comfortable with me but I think that she does not do any extra. Massage is not bad and she is very pretty.[/QUOTE]That's disappointing, probably will not go back now. Thanks for saving me some cash to give to other more deserving ladies!
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5271702]Besides Mantra, has anyone experienced extras with other hair removal technicians? Always open to PM's.
I noticed this one on CL. Looks mature and attractive. For trimming, she charges 20 per 15-minute increment and claims to be an LMT. Seems like an inexpensive TOFTT.
[URL]https://waxbyjax.com/[/URL]
I once saw the older CL blonde near Indian Boundary Park for a shave, before she suddenly changed her operation to waxing only. I honestly never understood how switching up the service would alter public impressions about not offering extras. She seemed congenial and professional. Even still, she definitely needed to rest her hand on the side of my flagpole at one point to make room for the trimmer. I didn't try SS. I had an appointment with the now-defunct [URL]MassagebySasha.com[/URL], the older Northshore Euro who was recovering from brain surgery, due to tumor removal. (Whatever happened to her? She still alive?)[/QUOTE]Jax (Jacqui) - first couple of visits, standard service. No hint of anything. She does rub an oil after the trim / wax which feels great, but stops before anything can happen. Third time, allowed SS. Even helped a little.
Over the past several months, I've been in rooms 5, 6, 7 and 8 multiple times. Only one room I got he.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;5294466]Over the past several months, I've been in rooms 5, 6, 7 and 8 multiple times. Only one room I got he.[/QUOTE]If you're talking Shermer, that's strange. Room 7 has two different massage "companies". Massage Mantra is the weird lady with latex gloves on. Went once, had a gloved HE and never returned. The other room in 7 is 7 B and that's Lovely Hands with Basya where nude HE is normal. Room 5 is Creative with Nata (topless HE) and Mia (same). Been a few years since I tried Magic Touch in room 6, so not sure there, but used to be standard HE finish. Been a few more years since room 8, but I think Lovely Hands uses it sometimes. I was going to attach a pic of the info board in the basement but it shows phone numbers, so not sure I can. PM me if you want it.
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5294729]If you're talking Shermer, that's strange. Room 7 has two different massage "companies". Massage Mantra is the weird lady with latex gloves on. Went once, had a gloved HE and never returned. The other room in 7 is 7 B and that's Lovely Hands with Basya where nude HE is normal. Room 5 is Creative with Nata (topless HE) and Mia (same). Been a few years since I tried Magic Touch in room 6, so not sure there, but used to be standard HE finish. Been a few more years since room 8, but I think Lovely Hands uses it sometimes. I was going to attach a pic of the info board in the basement but it shows phone numbers, so not sure I can. PM me if you want it.[/QUOTE]Same experience as you mentioned. Nothing has changed in this building for forever. Maybe they are more selective now, but nothing different going.
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5294729]If you're talking Shermer, that's strange. Room 7 has two different massage "companies". Massage Mantra is the weird lady with latex gloves on. Went once, had a gloved HE and never returned. The other room in 7 is 7 B and that's Lovely Hands with Basya where nude HE is normal. Room 5 is Creative with Nata (topless HE) and Mia (same). Been a few years since I tried Magic Touch in room 6, so not sure there, but used to be standard HE finish. Been a few more years since room 8, but I think Lovely Hands uses it sometimes. I was going to attach a pic of the info board in the basement but it shows phone numbers, so not sure I can. PM me if you want it.[/QUOTE]Speaking of old, reliable offices. Whatever happened to all the action at 8800 Lockwood? That was my absolute, #1 go-to for all my early EMP experiences. I would see Galena on the 2nd floor. What became of her? I also first met Natalie (now Nata) on that ground floor. She has become quite rubenesque over the years, hasn't she? Do any operations still exist in that building or was it all Yuri's doing?
I have found a Yuri who advertises his own massage via social media, but I'm not sure if that's the same guy who scheduled appointments for us, all those years ago.
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[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5295535]Speaking of old, reliable offices. Whatever happened to all the action at 8800 Lockwood? That was my absolute, #1 go-to for all my early EMP experiences. I would see Galena on the 2nd floor. What became of her? I also first met Natalie (now Nata) on that ground floor. She has become quite rubenesque over the years, hasn't she? Do any operations still exist in that building or was it all Yuri's doing?
I have found a Yuri who advertises his own massage via social media, but I'm not sure if that's the same guy who scheduled appointments for us, all those years ago.[/QUOTE]I just moved to the south side.
[QUOTE=ZzTopSterZz;5280842]Norwood phone remains disconnected. I haven't been able to drive over to check it out in person. Does anyone know what happened and where the girls went, especially Natalie?[/QUOTE]I haven't been but I walk by on a regular basis and they now have a sign up that says "massages available."
I don't remember that being there until recently.
[QUOTE=ItsHowdyDoody;5294770]Same experience as you mentioned. Nothing has changed in this building for forever. Maybe they are more selective now, but nothing different going.[/QUOTE]Went for a visit to Magic Touch, #6 on Shermer. It was the same lady, tall blonde, 40's, nice figure. Massaged her a bit as well. HE with boobs and butt out. Nice, but not exciting. Maybe I need a break from mongering. I'd definitely save money. .
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5295535]Speaking of old, reliable offices. Whatever happened to all the action at 8800 Lockwood? That was my absolute, #1 go-to for all my early EMP experiences. I would see Galena on the 2nd floor. What became of her? I also first met Natalie (now Nata) on that ground floor. She has become quite rubenesque over the years, hasn't she? Do any operations still exist in that building or was it all Yuri's doing?
I have found a Yuri who advertises his own massage via social media, but I'm not sure if that's the same guy who scheduled appointments for us, all those years ago.[/QUOTE]Wow. The oldies but goodies. I'm sure Galena is a grandma by now and Nataile has a few kids. She was massaging out of a place a little further west on Dempster. Just not the same though as when she was svelte and sexy. Rumor was she was married to Yuri.
Only Euro action over that way now it the Bronx location.
[QUOTE=Truthfu11;5297361]Wow. The oldies but goodies. I'm sure Galena is a grandma by now and Nataile has a few kids. She was massaging out of a place a little further west on Dempster. Just not the same though as when she was svelte and sexy. Rumor was she was married to Yuri.
Only Euro action over that way now it the Bronx location.[/QUOTE]I suppose that this article from a decade ago explains why Lockwood dried up. I really wonder who would've bothered to report an EMP in that building, as it was a very unassuming location.
[URL]https://patch.com/illinois/skokie/police-prostitution-sting-closes-down-massage-parlors[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5306241]I suppose that this article from a decade ago explains why Lockwood dried up. I really wonder who would've bothered to report an EMP in that building, as it was a very unassuming location.
[URL]https://patch.com/illinois/skokie/police-prostitution-sting-closes-down-massage-parlors[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank goodness they stopped those handjobs! Glad they're not wasting their time on rapists, robbers, and murderers.
For crying out loud, make it legal and tax it. Works in the Netherlands.
For the oil rub at the end, gloves or bare hands?
[QUOTE=CanadianGuy;5287926]Jax (Jacqui) - first couple of visits, standard service. No hint of anything. She does rub an oil after the trim / wax which feels great, but stops before anything can happen. Third time, allowed SS. Even helped a little.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5309287]
For crying out loud, make it legal and tax it. Works in the Netherlands.[/QUOTE]Amen. Wonder how much additional funding governments would get out of it. I imagine a shit load. The issue I know with some of my friends is the morality of it and they don't support politicians who want to legalize it because what kind of example does it set for their kids *rolling my eyes* . Little do they know what their kids are actually doing.
Of course anyone on this board is for legalizing prostitution. I recall last year or so Vermont had introduced a law for possible legalization. Here's the kicker; it was brought up by several women in their government. Not sure what the end result was.
[QUOTE=EdCarbone;5309287]Thank goodness they stopped those handjobs! Glad they're not wasting their time on rapists, robbers, and murderers.
For crying out loud, make it legal and tax it. Works in the Netherlands.[/QUOTE]That begs the question, what are the legalities of FBSM in Russia and Eastern Europe?
Politically, they're much more conservative than we are here in the United States. So why do the EMP women come to the US with have little hesitation in offering basic extras? It can't be pure economics, although that may play a part. Is it more of a norm over there?
Would you go to their version of Massage Envy or Heavenly and walk out happy, if so inclined?
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5312279]That begs the question, what are the legalities of FBSM in Russia and Eastern Europe?
Politically, they're much more conservative than we are here in the United States. So why do the EMP women come to the US with have little hesitation in offering basic extras? It can't be pure economics, although that may play a part. Is it more of a norm over there?
Would you go to their version of Massage Envy or Heavenly and walk out happy, if so inclined?[/QUOTE]I think europeans in generally are much more comfortable with sex and bodies than the puritan Americans. Over there it's no big deal to go topless at the beach, to show tits on tv and magazines. Very few women actually work in the sex trades but it's probably got less of a stigma there than here. You're not a bad person; it's just a job like anything else. And, yes, if my favorite massage envy therapists would add a good HJ in the middle of the sessions that would be awesome!
[QUOTE=ZzTopSterZz;5312402]I think europeans in generally are much more comfortable with sex and bodies than the puritan Americans. Over there it's no big deal to go topless at the beach, to show tits on tv and magazines. Very few women actually work in the sex trades but it's probably got less of a stigma there than here. You're not a bad person; it's just a job like anything else. And, yes, if my favorite massage envy therapists would add a good HJ in the middle of the sessions that would be awesome![/QUOTE]While the first part of your statement is true, the second part is false. There is a massive stigma for sex work in Eastern Europe and really the rest of Europe. This is why the girls from EE go to western Europe to work. They have anonymity there and can then return to their native country and their normal lives afterwards.