Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5660444]Again, the claim that "a chad" is still "dominant male," even though his girlfriend is cheating on him for my money, and most of the times, fucking loves it too is ridiculous. At that point, a "chad" ceases to be dominant and is just another chump. Not only I am owning his girl, but his girl is playing him like a fool. Maybe deep down, she "loves" him or "finds him more attractive" or "likes hanging out with him. " I think that's great. He can take her to the movies and talk to her and they can "fall in love. " When that experience is over, his little princess is still sneaking over to my hotel room to dress up for me and call me daddy and lets me use her pussy like a piece of meat and most of the times, she is cumming her eyes out for the rest of the night with me, not "chad. " And yeah, she can have my chump change for that and maybe it's "acting" when she licks my cum from her fingers tells me that it tastes good and asks me if she did a good job, but while all of this is happening, "chad" is at home thinking that his girl really wants him. For all I care, when I am done with her, she can go back to falling in love with "alpha chad. " If being "beta" is being the guy who is fucking your girlfriends ass at a hotel when you think she's out with friends or studying or working late, then I will gladly be "beta" instead of being the chump taking her to the movies. From my experience, most of them do have boyfriends and maybe in their minds, they really "want them" or "love them" but that's not "all" they want or love. They want and lthey love money too and they sure don't mind getting another guy's cock, especially when it blows their mind and they don't tell "chad" about it. A definition of love or desire that includes a girl sucking other mens cocks for money, despite being in "love," is a hell of a definition.[/QUOTE]Women evaluate men on all 3. "Chad" status is conferred to men who score high across all 3 in the aggregate. The idea that young woman can't legitimately be attracted to an older man w money is patently absurd. It's also worth mentioning the correlation between money and status is significantly greater than it is w looks and status. This is how the game has always existed. SA is just more honest about it.

[QUOTE=Zimbler;5660288]I don't think many of these girls are dating broke guys on the side, because they've gotten so used to being monetized, but if they are then they are playing the 'long con':

Marriage, divorce, alimony, child support.

That's what I meant.[/QUOTE]I will tell you what, Get their Instagram and Snapchat accounts and see the guys these 22 year old SB's are dealing with. These girls are not dating 38 year old millionaires LOL. It will be very eye opening for you! The girls at that age are seriously dating guys that age. The majority are on seeking for the money!

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5660444]Again, the claim that "a chad" is still "dominant male," even though his girlfriend is cheating on him for my money, and most of the times, fucking loves it too is ridiculous. At that point, a "chad" ceases to be dominant and is just another chump. Not only I am owning his girl, but his girl is playing him like a fool. Maybe deep down, she "loves" him or "finds him more attractive" or "likes hanging out with him. " I think that's great. He can take her to the movies and talk to her and they can "fall in love. " When that experience is over, his little princess is still sneaking over to my hotel room to dress up for me and call me daddy and lets me use her pussy like a piece of meat and most of the times, she is cumming her eyes out for the rest of the night with me, not "chad. " And yeah, she can have my chump change for that and maybe it's "acting" when she licks my cum from her fingers tells me that it tastes good and asks me if she did a good job, but while all of this is happening, "chad" is at home thinking that his girl really wants him. For all I care, when I am done with her, she can go back to falling in love with "alpha chad. " If being "beta" is being the guy who is fucking your girlfriends ass at a hotel when you think she's out with friends or studying or working late, then I will gladly be "beta" instead of being the chump taking her to the movies. From my experience, most of them do have boyfriends and maybe in their minds, they really "want them" or "love them" but that's not "all" they want or love. They want and lthey love money too and they sure don't mind getting another guy's cock, especially when it blows their mind and they don't tell "chad" about it. A definition of love or desire that includes a girl sucking other mens cocks for money, despite being in "love," is a hell of a definition.[/QUOTE]LOL at this guy! Forget about Chad and beta meta and alpha male. The bottom line is you are paying her for sex and the other guy isn't. You are essentially a customer. I will tell you what tell the girl that is squiring and cumming all over your cock that you want to date her without allowance and see what she says!

I am not knocking you, I do ppm and I love banging these girls but I am a realist.

If someone gave the girl the option of never seeing you and your money again or never seeing her broke boyfriend again she will choose her boyfriend.

Also I will tell you I have banged many girls where I paid and many girls where I haven't paid. The girls you get for free respect you more. Many guys I think get all their game by paying and don't realize this.

[QUOTE=JDuB1970;5659897]I'm genuinely curious.[/QUOTE]Some time ago I did a review an a girl, it was actually a negative review and posted the link. Nevertheless, the system thought I was promoting her and my account had warning issues. Maybe it's some logarithm and I respect it. So I learned my lesson.

We were supposed to hook up 2 weeks ago and she ghosted me. Came back with a sincere apology (yeah, I'm a sucker). Rescheduled for Mon but I asked her 24 hours early if we could change as I just had my booster shot and she was cool with it. Planned for 8 PM tonight and at 7:59 she says I'm running late and only have til 930. OK! She's 11 minutes away at 813. Pulling up at 836. Goes full on ghost after that. Avoid this time wasting asshole punk!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/87008017-848d-4f62-b096-bc54265e2e7d[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jayp80;5658872]Whether she's walking the hoe stroll, working for an agency or setting up dates on SA, she's an escort. Don't put these SA girls above any other form of escorting.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely wrong. I've hit a dry patch the last few months. But I went on two dinner dates with a 19 yo Ten who I messaged on Instagram who goes to Grand Valley State and I offered her $2000 for the first two dates, paid up front and she was like, "I thought I could do it, but I just can't. I respect myself too much, yada, yada. ".

Then I struck out in Los Angeles and ended up eventually getting a girl from SA to visit my hotel room for $400 who was closer to Pro than semi-pro and it was fine, but I was bored and didn't want her to stay longer than she had to.

Then I spent three dates trying to get a Ten from Northwest Indiana to fuck me, even going so far as to take a day off work to work with her schedule and we discussed an allowance and she talked me up to $1000 per date and then she flaked out on me before we had a real date, hurting my self confidence.

Then this week in Manhattan I met a 19 yo Nine off tinder and told her I was interested in being her sugar daddy and she not only fucked me just for dinner and an Uber but let me film her giving me a BJ. There's two girls in this story who if they had fucked me would have been nothing like an escort--their standards were incredibly high--and then one who did fuck me for money just like she would have fucked anyone who opened the hotel room door; she couldn't be any different from the one who fucked me for a plate of pasta and an Uber from St John's University to Manhattan. Only one of those girls could be considered an "escort". And even if the two Tens I struck out on had finally agreed to fuck, doing it on the third or fourth date and after the negotiation of an extravagant allowance might technically be considered casual prostitution, it's still pretty damn far from being a call girl.

Even if they are prostitutes in an extremely pedantic sense, some of the funnest girls to fuck are women *who don't know that they are prostitutes yet. * I don't understand the impulse among some here to try to convince everyone that every girl who accepts some quid pro quo for sex immediately becomes a *****. My wife is a ***** by this standard and so is my septuagenarian mother. I can't tell you how many BJ's my wife has given me after I buy something for her. And sure, if you want to call her a ***** and get pedantic about it that's fine, but the word isn't very useful then, is it? If it includes wives and people I've simply shared cab rides with, then I don't understand the value of the term.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5660444]Again, the claim that "a chad" is still "dominant male," even though his girlfriend is cheating on him for my money, and most of the times, fucking loves it too is ridiculous. At that point, a "chad" ceases to be dominant and is just another chump. Not only I am owning his girl, but his girl is playing him like a fool. Maybe deep down, she "loves" him or "finds him more attractive" or "likes hanging out with him. " I think that's great. He can take her to the movies and talk to her and they can "fall in love. " When that experience is over, his little princess is still sneaking over to my hotel room to dress up for me and call me daddy and lets me use her pussy like a piece of meat and most of the times, she is cumming her eyes out for the rest of the night with me, not "chad. " And yeah, she can have my chump change for that and maybe it's "acting" when she licks my cum from her fingers tells me that it tastes good and asks me if she did a good job, but while all of this is happening, "chad" is at home thinking that his girl really wants him. For all I care, when I am done with her, she can go back to falling in love with "alpha chad. " If being "beta" is being the guy who is fucking your girlfriends ass at a hotel when you think she's out with friends or studying or working late, then I will gladly be "beta" instead of being the chump taking her to the movies. From my experience, most of them do have boyfriends and maybe in their minds, they really "want them" or "love them" but that's not "all" they want or love. They want and lthey love money too and they sure don't mind getting another guy's cock, especially when it blows their mind and they don't tell "chad" about it. A definition of love or desire that includes a girl sucking other mens cocks for money, despite being in "love," is a hell of a definition.[/QUOTE]These chads get it for free and have optionality that *MOST* guys do not. Look man, most of us were not cool or got little to no action when we were teens and in our 20's but don't be mad at chad for being chad.

I graduated H. S in the mid 2000's and lost my virginity when I was 16. If I was in HS today, I'd be a fuckin incel. The game has changed big time.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5660444]Again, the claim that "a chad" is still "dominant male," even though his girlfriend is cheating on him for my money, and most of the times, fucking loves it too is ridiculous. At that point, a "chad" ceases to be dominant and is just another chump. Not only I am owning his girl, but his girl is playing him like a fool. Maybe deep down, she "loves" him or "finds him more attractive" or "likes hanging out with him. " I think that's great. He can take her to the movies and talk to her and they can "fall in love. " When that experience is over, his little princess is still sneaking over to my hotel room to dress up for me and call me daddy and lets me use her pussy like a piece of meat and most of the times, she is cumming her eyes out for the rest of the night with me, not "chad. " And yeah, she can have my chump change for that and maybe it's "acting" when she licks my cum from her fingers tells me that it tastes good and asks me if she did a good job, but while all of this is happening, "chad" is at home thinking that his girl really wants him. For all I care, when I am done with her, she can go back to falling in love with "alpha chad. " If being "beta" is being the guy who is fucking your girlfriends ass at a hotel when you think she's out with friends or studying or working late, then I will gladly be "beta" instead of being the chump taking her to the movies. From my experience, most of them do have boyfriends and maybe in their minds, they really "want them" or "love them" but that's not "all" they want or love. They want and lthey love money too and they sure don't mind getting another guy's cock, especially when it blows their mind and they don't tell "chad" about it. A definition of love or desire that includes a girl sucking other mens cocks for money, despite being in "love," is a hell of a definition.[/QUOTE]The very best SB's I've had have had serious boyfriends who--obviously--were not giving them an allowance and also didn't know they were fucking me. Two have been engaged. One wore here ring! It's more fun when they are sneaking around and it's also less likely they were fucking other SDs. I could give a shit, but if the choice is between there's some guy they sleep with most nights and sometimes she sneaks away to see me, vs. She fucks all the guys who pay her, it's no choice at all.

Considering exceptions to the rule, in the real world, in the wild, women prefer Alpha Males since the beginning of humanity and it happens in all animal species too. A lioness only wants to mate with the most dominant male. It's been scientifically proven and humans are not different to animas in that regards. Regardless if the guy has money or not, women prefer alpha men. It's in their subconscious. Some Alphas can be rich and successful and some alphas can be poor and a failure financially. Someone can be a doctor / lawyer / astronaut and on top of it be an alpha. On the other hand, somebody can be a convict / homeless and still be an alpha. Women since the beginning of humanity want a sense of protection /.

Security. The same way (taking exceptions into consideration) most men want a feminine and submissive wife / girlfriend, women want a man with confidence. In summary, being alpha has nothing to do with money, cockiness or physical strength. It's about confidence and mental strength.

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5660477]Also I will tell you I have banged many girls where I paid and many girls where I haven't paid. The girls you get for free respect you more. Many guys I think get all their game by paying and don't realize this.[/QUOTE]Very true. It's all about your mindset on how you want to "conquer" your quest. Not a lot of hobbyist will understand this.

All I can tell you is that what I enjoyed the most about my time on SA compared to escort sites was that most of the girls I met were convertible. That means the option existed to have a real relationship with them. I left SA because pressure started to build with a few of them to either have a relationship or only do PPM / allowance but I wasn't ready to just have one girlfriend, and I'm still not. One of them had a boyfriend but made it clear she was willing to leave him and literally live with me anytime I gave her the ok.

I find no real difference between these girls and girls I meet on Tinder, honestly. The only difference is how it begins, but it always ends the same way.

Escorts are always the same for the most part, so they are their own category.

[QUOTE=OnlyDreams;5660726]Considering exceptions to the rule, in the real world, in the wild, women prefer Alpha Males since the beginning of humanity and it happens in all animal species too. A lioness only wants to mate with the most dominant male. It's been scientifically proven and humans are not different to animas in that regards. Regardless if the guy has money or not, women prefer alpha men. It's in their subconscious. Some Alphas can be rich and successful and some alphas can be poor and a failure financially. Someone can be a doctor / lawyer / astronaut and on top of it be an alpha. On the other hand, somebody can be a convict / homeless and still be an alpha. Women since the beginning of humanity want a sense of protection /.

Security. The same way (taking exceptions into consideration) most men want a feminine and submissive wife / girlfriend, women want a man with confidence. In summary, being alpha has nothing to do with money, cockiness or physical strength. It's about confidence and mental strength.[/QUOTE]Interesting, the question is when you are paying for PPM and box does that automatically make you a beta? Maybe the same way a girl who has been with many guys is many times seen has not being marriage material to men.

[QUOTE=TheArgent;5660705]This is absolutely wrong. I've hit a dry patch the last few months. But I went on two dinner dates with a 19 yo Ten who I messaged on Instagram who goes to Grand Valley State and I offered her $2000 for the first two dates, paid up front and she was like, "I thought I could do it, but I just can't. I respect myself too much, yada, yada. ".

Then I struck out in Los Angeles and ended up eventually getting a girl from SA to visit my hotel room for $400 who was closer to Pro than semi-pro and it was fine, but I was bored and didn't want her to stay longer than she had to.

Then I spent three dates trying to get a Ten from Northwest Indiana to fuck me, even going so far as to take a day off work to work with her schedule and we discussed an allowance and she talked me up to $1000 per date and then she flaked out on me before we had a real date, hurting my self confidence.

Then this week in Manhattan I met a 19 yo Nine off tinder and told her I was interested in being her sugar daddy and she not only fucked me just for dinner and an Uber but let me film her giving me a BJ. There's two girls in this story who if they had fucked me would have been nothing like an escort--their standards were incredibly high--and then one who did fuck me for money just like she would have fucked anyone who opened the hotel room door; she couldn't be any different from the one who fucked me for a plate of pasta and an Uber from St John's University to Manhattan.[/QUOTE]The bottom line is those girls that turned you down to fuck for 1 k will fuck another guy for free by going to his place and watching Netflix. The pro you fucked for 400 does the same, my point is what we do on SA is not real life. There is nothing wrong with that, I have had great time fucking girls from SA but I know at the end of the day what it is.

The only girls I can say are truly attracted to me are the girls I end up banging for free off of SA. If I pay I assume they are on it strictly for the money. It doesn't make me sad, LOL I still pound them and have a great time but I know what it is.

[QUOTE=Moss734;5658389]Isn't that an accurate description of almost all the girls on that site? Its not [URL]match.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]Gold diggers try to max the ppm. I've had a couple relationships that didn't need the money (both came from wealthy parents) and had no issues playing for free.