Strip Club Reports

Just to report back my bad experience at cricket on last Monday. I was there at the night shift. All girls are hot. A lot of 8's or 7's per my standard.

The problem came when the negotiation started. I talked to few girls (one mid eastern looking girl named Tiffany and one Caucasian girl named Snow and other one I didn't get the name) and they all said extras are available but I have to negotiate with them in the back room.

Took snow, had couple songs. Didn't agree with the price or I let her go after several dances. Then talked to Tiffany she said 200 for CBJ. I agreed. Then I made a big mistake there by paying her ahead. During the dances, she just kept doing the regular dances and talked me my time was up for the 200. I asked where was our agreement and she said the bouncer would catch us if she did it. Balabalabala. Bullshit.

So I left cricket with blue balls. The damage was something I don't even want to think about it.

Went to bogart to release the load with a lady in her 50's I think for. 1.

Just to be careful when you go to cricket. I don't know why maybe it is because Monday.

What's my mistake you guys think?

[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;4039564]What's my mistake you guys think?[/QUOTE]Never pay the girl ahead of time unless you are very very well known and regarded in the club.

[QUOTE=StripperLover;4040014]Never pay the girl ahead of time unless you are very very well known and regarded in the club.[/QUOTE]I thought I knew the club well enough but the ladies are always one step smarter (trickier) than I am.

I guess they are just like other business, new tricks are developed every day.

[QUOTE=StripperLover;4040014]Never pay the girl ahead of time unless you are very very well known and regarded in the club.[/QUOTE]Never pay the girl in advance, NO MATTER WHAT. I've NEVER had a good session from a girl who asked for payment up front. Sometimes they ask for payment in advance, I say no, then they say ok, you can pay after. I say no thanks, I'm not in the mood, and I WALK OUT. If I was back there less than 30 seconds, I PAY NOTHING.

If it's been more than 30 seconds I pay for 1 song, $10 or $20. They'll say they've had guys not pay them. The main reason guys don't want to pay is because the service was bad, NONE of the girls with good service ask for payment in advance. The secret to ANY negotiation is don't be afraid to walk out. I don't ask for a refund for the wristband. That way the bouncer tends to be on my side. The bouncers notice which girls always whine about getting paid. If the girl does get the bouncer involved, just say you changed your mind, she had too many rules. If you are known at the club, they know you don't cum and run.

[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;4039564]Just to report back my bad experience at cricket on last Monday. I was there at the night shift. All girls are hot. A lot of 8's or 7's per my standard.

The problem came when the negotiation started. I talked to few girls (one mid eastern looking girl named Tiffany and one Caucasian girl named Snow and other one I didn't get the name) and they all said extras are available but I have to negotiate with them in the back room.

Took snow, had couple songs. Didn't agree with the price or I let her go after several dances. Then talked to Tiffany she said 200 for CBJ. I agreed. Then I made a big mistake there by paying her ahead. During the dances, she just kept doing the regular dances and talked me my time was up for the 200. I asked where was our agreement and she said the bouncer would catch us if she did it. Balabalabala. Bullshit.

So I left cricket with blue balls. The damage was something I don't even want to think about it.

Went to bogart to release the load with a lady in her 50's I think for. 1.

Just to be careful when you go to cricket. I don't know why maybe it is because Monday.

What's my mistake you guys think?[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that bro. As other guys posted, always negotiate / pay afterwards. If you're going to spend $$ at Criket, my suggestion is to either hit up Flight Club or Landing Strip. You'll have a great time for either $ or $. 5. don't be too upset though bro. Its happened to all of us before. Now you know for next time.

[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;4039564]What's my mistake you guys think?[/QUOTE]1) Never pay first, I don't care if you own the bar. Don't do it!

2) Never negotiate in the back, always do it at the table. I'll never understand why guys pay for 2 or 3 songs ($50 to $75 plus VIP tax) to find out it's not going to work out. How are you going to fuck a girl for $100 if you just gave her $50 for doing nothing.

3) Stop going after the hottest girl in the club, you need to walk before you run.

4) Don't be afraid to walk away (go home without any fun), too many guys just go for it and "hope" things will go well. Hoping things will go well will get you no where.

5) Remember your mistakes and don't do them twice, again hoping things will go well will get you no where.

Recent news is that 2 GM plants in Detroit are closing -- this will also have a trickle down effect. Could some Chrysler & Ford plants in Michigan close too? Is the plant off 8 mile road a Chrysler or GM plant?

I have found the blue collar guys with better paying jobs (construction, high-end factory, truck driver) tend to be the best spenders in the club. Of course guys with $100 k plus jobs can spend good but that's 5-7% of the population & probably 2-3% in the upper Midwest outside of Chicago.

I just see a lot of clubs failing in upcoming years.

[QUOTE=Rainman5000;4040597]Recent news is that 2 GM plants in Detroit are closing -- this will also have a trickle down effect. Could some Chrysler & Ford plants in Michigan close too? Is the plant off 8 mile road a Chrysler or GM plant?

I have found the blue collar guys with better paying jobs (construction, high-end factory, truck driver) tend to be the best spenders in the club. Of course guys with $100 k plus jobs can spend good but that's 5-7% of the population & probably 2-3% in the upper Midwest outside of Chicago.

[b]I just see a lot of clubs failing in upcoming years[/b].[/QUOTE]If they didn't fail back in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, they won't fail in the years to come.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;4040277]1) Never pay first, I don't care if you own the bar. Don't do it!

2) Never negotiate in the back, always do it at the table. I'll never understand why guys pay for 2 or 3 songs ($50 to $75 plus VIP tax) to find out it's not going to work out. How are you going to fuck a girl for $100 if you just gave her $50 for doing nothing.

3) Stop going after the hottest girl in the club, you need to walk before you run.

4) Don't be afraid to walk away (go home without any fun), too many guys just go for it and "hope" things will go well. Hoping things will go well will get you no where.

5) Remember your mistakes and don't do them twice, again hoping things will go well will get you no where.[/QUOTE]Great points! A couple other items. I Do not let the first girl or two who comes over glom onto me. Oh they will try. Watch the first set of dances then choose. By RTFF here you'll learn names if your not a regular. Be a customer and follow the rules set by others on this board. Lastly do not csuse GPS by over paying!!

Play safe!

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;4040191]Never pay the girl in advance, NO MATTER WHAT. I've NEVER had a good session from a girl who asked for payment up front. Sometimes they ask for payment in advance, I say no, then they say ok, you can pay after. I say no thanks, I'm not in the mood, and I WALK OUT. If I was back there less than 30 seconds, I PAY NOTHING.

If it's been more than 30 seconds I pay for 1 song, $10 or $20. They'll say they've had guys not pay them. The main reason guys don't want to pay is because the service was bad, NONE of the girls with good service ask for payment in advance. The secret to ANY negotiation is don't be afraid to walk out. I don't ask for a refund for the wristband. That way the bouncer tends to be on my side. The bouncers notice which girls always whine about getting paid. If the girl does get the bouncer involved, just say you changed your mind, she had too many rules. If you are known at the club, they know you don't cum and run.[/QUOTE]There's always an exception to the rule. Anyone remember Rocky who used to work at coliseum? Did her in the back and had to pre pay. The only time I ever did it.

Any other average girl asks I'll show them the green if we've already negotiated and they are worth a shot.

[QUOTE=Rainman5000;4040597]Recent news is that 2 GM plants in Detroit are closing -- this will also have a trickle down effect. Could some Chrysler & Ford plants in Michigan close too? Is the plant off 8 mile road a Chrysler or GM plant?

I have found the blue collar guys with better paying jobs (construction, high-end factory, truck driver) tend to be the best spenders in the club. Of course guys with $100 k plus jobs can spend good but that's 5-7% of the population & probably 2-3% in the upper Midwest outside of Chicago.

I just see a lot of clubs failing in upcoming years.[/QUOTE]I'd have to agree with you. Somebody else mentioned the clubs survived the Great Recession of 2009 but didn't GM get a huge bailout for that? That means lots of autoworkers still had steady paychecks. Those days are over, and also remember how many support industries are going to take a major hit once the factories shut down. Truckers, machinists, warehousers, etc all those guys will lose jobs too. Most of those people aren't going to stick around Detroit and get Walmart jobs.

My guess is that some of the cheaper, blue-collar clubs will close. The ritzier clubs will be able to stay open because of the horny doctors and dentists in the area still pulling down a nice salary, not to mention all the businessmen coming into town looking for a fancy club to hang out at.

[QUOTE=StripperLover;4041026]There's always an exception to the rule. Anyone remember Rocky who used to work at coliseum? [b]Did her in the back and had to pre pay[/b]. The only time I ever did it.

Any other average girl asks I'll show them the green if we've already negotiated and they are worth a shot.[/QUOTE]StripperLover, out of all the men that post on this forum I have a ton of respect for you as a strip club monger. But IMHO (on principle alone) I would have walked as soon as Rocky told me "I had to pay first." This is what I mean by guys just going for it and hoping for the best. I don't care how well known you are at the club, the club is going to tell you there's nothing we can do about it. They are not going to "force" her to pay you back, and they sure as hell are not going to force her to provide services she agreed to.

Now aside from all that we are trying to give a new monger some advice, it's best to keep it simple. He needs a basic set of rules with no "exception," that may confuse him.

[QUOTE=HapHunter;4040699]Great points! A couple other items. I Do not let the first girl or two who comes over glom onto me. Oh they will try. Watch the first set of dances then choose. By RTFF here you'll learn names if your not a regular. Be a customer and follow the rules set by others on this board. Lastly do not csuse GPS by over paying!!

Play safe![/QUOTE]Hap Hunter has a good point, don't rush it.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;4040277]1) Never pay first, I don't care if you own the bar. Don't do it!

2) Never negotiate in the back, always do it at the table. I'll never understand why guys pay for 2 or 3 songs ($50 to $75 plus VIP tax) to find out it's not going to work out. How are you going to fuck a girl for $100 if you just gave her $50 for doing nothing.

3) Stop going after the hottest girl in the club, you need to walk before you run.

4) Don't be afraid to walk away (go home without any fun), too many guys just go for it and "hope" things will go well. Hoping things will go well will get you no where.

5) Remember your mistakes and don't do them twice, again hoping things will go well will get you no where.[/QUOTE]6) Go on a slow night / day and take your time. Go in with the mindset that you're just going to have a beer or two and enjoy the show (no extras). Going on a Friday or Saturday night is going to be harder to get a dancers attention because the club is so busy.

If I'm looking for someone specific, will they tell me if she's there if I call? I'm up for work by 5-6 am most days so staying out late on a weeknight only to come up empty is not all that appealing. Thanks!