Such tactics are intolerable
[QUOTE=Max#01;4401145]They even stopped the guys for contrived traffic violations and got a few of them to talk. It's always been very risky in the Peoples' Republic of Montgomery County. It makes preserving and protecting our adult fun in the adjacent county even more critical. Fortunately, they don't nearly have the resources to do this nor do they have snowflake politicians.[/QUOTE]Indeed such tactics are intolerable and perhaps even unconstitutional. I'm hoping a sane judge will throw out the evidence and dismiss the case.
Montgomery County has been hostile to providers and mongers for a number of years. I mongered quite a bit in Montgomery during the late 1990's and early 2000's before authorities began a crackdown. I'm frankly surprised Sophia, aka Lena, was able to work in Silver Spring as long as she did. Let's hope that sanity prevails sooner rather than later and that laws criminalizing consenting adults activities are finally struck down or repealed.
Damn I was just trying to get a nice good firm massage
[QUOTE=TheJonn;4401311]Well this is fucking Terrible. Rose's was one of my favorites as Grace was always super nice and accommodating. I assume the other AMPs in the area are going to be on high alert now.[/QUOTE]I actually msg them the other day and got no response. Stopped by and saw it was lights out. Thought maybe summer vacation. Saw on Facebook feed that they got shutdown. Truly ashamed. Some of the ladies gave the most amazing massages in the area. And I'm not talking sensual. Just nice hard firm ones. Ahh that's unfortunate. Best stay away from Moco joints especially if your looking for extras.
They have time on their hands
MC has a vice unit that pretty much only deals with commercial sex crimes. Normally vice units would be busy working on drug crime too but they have a separate unit for that. So unfortunately they have plenty of time on their hands and it appears they are spending that time staking out MPs. Would be very interested to know what the conversations were like for the guys that were stopped. The case had to be transferred to Frederick bc an employee of the State's Attorney for MC was caught up in this investigation but you don't hear of any clients having been arrested. Wonder how they figured out his employment.
[QUOTE=BoMcC;4407362]Either we're doing it all wrong or we're being quiet about the extras. Nothing here at all about Rose's save for a couple of posts about a year ago. I guess it goes to show that MoCoPoPo isn't getting all their info from here so we can maybe share a little more freely.
I was at a spa while it got busted Pre-Kraft a couple years ago. Didn't have nearly the level of scrutiny involved that this bust seemed to entail.
Maybe to stay safe in the future, when you get the good stuff, plan a direct trip to a close-by McDonalds and go in for a happy meal after. Don't give the stakeout a reason to pull you over or stop you around your car.[/QUOTE]
Collecting Personal Information
When one is pulled over for a traffic stop, the first thing the police ask for is your driver's license and vehicle registration. Then they ask questions like, "Do you know how fast you were driving?" And "Do you know what the posted speed limit is?" Or "Did you know you failed to use your turn signal when you turned?" Or "Did you know your right, front headlight is out?" They immediately put you on the defensive and try to somehow get you to lie to them. They may ask, "Where are you headed?" And "Where have you been?
Then, after they check for warrants, they come back and ask you the same questions to see if you give the same answers. If not, trouble begins because it is against the law to lie to a law enforcement official.
They have all kinds of tactics to try to get information out of people. But one does not have to participate in their investigation. One always has the right not to help them make a case against you.
That's why the advice any attorney would give you is to not answer their questions. The acronym used here is STFU. It means "Shut The F* Up". You are not obligated to answer their questions. You have the right to remain silent even if you are not officially arrested.
In these cases, it is most likely after the initial, routine questions when the other questioning begins. People get scared and think they should answer questions from law enforcement. But one doesn't have to. And one never should.
Whatever information they glean would then be shared with the vice unit. Or vice unit officers could even be in the car with them and participate in the traffic stop.
An important question is: How did 60 guys leaving the same business establishment have traffic infractions to be stopped by the police? It seems suspicious that that many citizens broke traffic laws while they were X feet away from the same strip mall.
I've seen no reporting of any arrests made of guys who were stopped. However, it would be interesting to know if any of those guys received tickets? But that's a question for another day.
To answer your question about knowing the one guy's employment status: Once the police collect information from you, which they always will if you get pulled over for a traffic stop, there is no telling who all will see it (e. G. Other police officers, vice squad officers, prosecutors, etc.) Someone might have recognized the name and investigated to see if it was the person who works for law enforcement establishment.
That is conjecture on my part. But it is important to remember your personal info will be collected and saved whenever you get stopped by the police; it is always in your best interest to keep your mouth closed and don't answer any questions; and most importantly, never lie to the police because that is a crime.
[QUOTE=JT5383;4407715]MC has a vice unit that pretty much only deals with commercial sex crimes. Normally vice units would be busy working on drug crime too but they have a separate unit for that. So unfortunately they have plenty of time on their hands and it appears they are spending that time staking out MPs. Would be very interested to know what the conversations were like for the guys that were stopped. The case had to be transferred to Frederick bc an employee of the State's Attorney for MC was caught up in this investigation but you don't hear of any clients having been arrested. Wonder how they figured out his employment.[/QUOTE]