Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

In my mind, the overall lower quality of the current provider pool is part and parcel of overall lower quality of women as a whole today. Women in every day life generally have this huge sense of entitlement, and seem to think we should be grateful to breathe the same oxygen they do. Even the land whales and the post-menopause women have crappy attitudes. I can't imagine doing the dating thing again with what I hear from the single guys.

I partly blame social media and smart phones. A chick who's 30 pounds overweight can post a bikini pic on FB and get a ton of "likes" and "you're so hawt" comments from thirsty men. But, I blame the rest of it on the thirsty nice guys who put chicks with bad attitudes on a pedestal and never grow a spine when it comes to dealing with women.

Until the economy goes in the crapper again, this may be what we're stuck with for a bit.

Sometimes I think Mongers should educate ourselves on drugs and how they are used. Snorting is a small part of it. Smoking it is another way. But the effects are not as quick; Injection is the fastest way. Within 60 seconds. A lot of them inject between their toes. Who looks there! Arms are obvious. Inside the thighs and The neck straight to the brain. If they hit heroin twice their hooked. I call them the walking dead. Look at how many providers have passed away. Black and blue bruises on their necks are from the needles not junk jewelry. It takes only once on Meth and their done. They smoke it snort it and Inject it. Meth users also at times also keep scratching their faces they feel like bugs under their skin at times. Of course they don't sleep for days. On both they will do anything to get it. Anything and don't care. LEO is more after the drugs than the providers but of course it goes hand in hand. By the way my ex was a provider hooked on heroin. Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4013689]In my mind, the overall lower quality of the current provider pool is part and parcel of overall lower quality of women as a whole today. Women in every day life generally have this huge sense of entitlement, and seem to think we should be grateful to breathe the same oxygen they do. Even the land whales and the post-menopause women have crappy attitudes. I can't imagine doing the dating thing again with what I hear from the single guys.

I partly blame social media and smart phones. A chick who's 30 pounds overweight can post a bikini pic on FB and get a ton of "likes" and "you're so hawt" comments from thirsty men. But, I blame the rest of it on the thirsty nice guys who put chicks with bad attitudes on a pedestal and never grow a spine when it comes to dealing with women.

Until the economy goes in the crapper again, this may be what we're stuck with for a bit.[/QUOTE]Hear, hear, UOLO!! But I wouldn't get too mouthy on that subject because they'll find you guilty of something with or without cause and then they'll demand a complete FBI investigation. Is your name Cavanaugh by chance?

Re: Black girls.

I'll speak to since I've been back. This is only for the streets, as I don't deal with escorts. But when comparing on the streets the average of looks are much better for the black ladies, mainly because they aren't heroin zombies, regardless if they do heroin or other drugs, which of course they do. You don't see them with pick marks, prematurely wrinkled, skin and bones. They still look like women. And they still (seem to) at least care about themselves, or at least their looks. Those zombies don't give a damn about anything, they don't even try to be appealing.

For any girl, but mainly BSW's, if they are walking around looking like something out of a movie (make up perfect, mini skirts, tanks, perfume, ect) then avoid them. When I see a girl (usually BSW) that's way too well put together, I assume that she'll give you all the push back that HL29 is talking about.

That said 2 of favorites from earlier in the year were black, but the one that's in UPH, she's gone down. She had a perfect body, now she's thin and everything that had the right amount of padding, is deflated now. She's the type where she gets a perfect body from staying with uncle, then loses it from living hard and fast on the streets. That's a thing with both races, though.

I'm sure that if I used USAA or escorts, I'd probably have similar experiences as HL29, but that would probably be for all races of providers.

This brings my rant. Speaking of the blacks that don't age as hard, the girl from Nausicaa is 44 years old. There are WSW and USAA advertisers that are 25 and look way older than that girl. As I've posted, look good from a drive pass, go to park, walk towards them and they age 5 years every 5 feet closer you get. There are 2 little very young blondes, that are in UPH, they look like twins, would surprise me if they were out of their teens. I walked past one of them, and she looked like a 45 year old 16 year old. LOL. The wrinkles and hard lines on that girl were horrendous. Yet you can tell they are very young.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;4013722]Hear, hear, UOLO!! But I wouldn't get too mouthy on that subject because they'll find you guilty of something with or without cause and then they'll demand a complete FBI investigation. Is your name [highlight]Cavanaugh[/highlight] by chance?[/QUOTE]LOL. If you're going to be a Kavanaugh sympathizer, [B]at least[/B] spell it correctly.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4013689]In my mind, the overall lower quality of the current provider pool is part and parcel of overall lower quality of women as a whole today. Women in every day life generally have this huge sense of entitlement, and seem to think we should be grateful to breathe the same oxygen they do. Even the land whales and the post-menopause women have crappy attitudes. I can't imagine doing the dating thing again with what I hear from the single guys.

I partly blame social media and smart phones. A chick who's 30 pounds overweight can post a bikini pic on FB and get a ton of "likes" and "you're so hawt" comments from thirsty men. But, I blame the rest of it on the thirsty nice guys who put chicks with bad attitudes on a pedestal and never grow a spine when it comes to dealing with women.

Until the economy goes in the crapper again, this may be what we're stuck with for a bit.[/QUOTE]I'm not looking to sympathize with the hookers, but as far as young girls go today, sure -- they are fucked up. But have you seen the absolute [B]SHIT[/B] masquerading as young single guys these days? From the crap I see from SBs it's simply loserville out there. All these guys want to do is watch Netflix and get a blowjob. And when they take the girls out it's a shitty restaurant.

I think smartphones and selfies have ruined a generation. Girls snapping pics for immediate approval / feedback. Complete narcissism is the rule of the day now. They have all these apps to make eyes bigger, remove blemishes, etc. Seriously. When is the last time you didn't see a chick sitting around making duck lips and snapping pics until they have one they like?

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4013583]Well I've been black all my life, and known black women prostitutes and otherwise. With me it's more their attitude than anything else which as a whole is very poor. Most think they're doing me a favor by accepting my money to bang them. They play a lot of games and in the escort world everything is covered. Picking them up on the streets you really have a high probability of getting robbed or ripped off in some way shape or form. Or the ever present are you done? I can't do this for that short money you need to hurry up. That kind of shit. And as far as the track marks the African American community does have some IV drug users but most snort the heroin, that's probably why the girl was nodding. (referencing the reply post after you). I'm glad you've had some positive experiences with AA girls but most of mine have been regrettable experiences. HL29.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I wonder why we've had such different experiences? Though, if you are black, I know many of the black girls report several negative experiences with black guys, to the point that many won't see them anymore. Maybe being white works to my advantage in this scenario? Maybe they are stereotyping you? Who knows.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;4014092]Interesting. I wonder why we've had such different experiences? Though, if you are black, I know many of the black girls report several negative experiences with black guys, to the point that many won't see them anymore. Maybe being white works to my advantage in this scenario? Maybe they are stereotyping you? Who knows.[/QUOTE]Yeah some black guys are fucked up just like any other race. I'm speaking from my experiences. I treat every women I see or attempt to see with respect. The thing with most black guys is they know the bs and attitude black women can bring and won't put up with it. I won't over pay and won't be intimidated by them running their mouths or trying some stupid shit. I'll see a black provider if she is highly rated or reviewed but I'm not into spending my money and having someone tell me what I have to do. I've had women in just about every race the most difficult have been black girls. Even the ones that aren't in the game most have a mouth that won't quit and very disrespectful. Where I work I encounter them everyday there are some nice ones but I'm telling you they can be a handful. I'm not knocking you man and I'm not trying to knock the black girls business, but as I said I've been black my whole 60 plus years on earth you encounter a black girl from time to time I talk to legitimate black men everyday and they all say the same sisters are a handful. We still love we'll still marry them but they're still hard to handle. HL29.

My last two posts have both been deleted by A2. Why? This morning I pointed out that the last, and only, three reviews for a lady were from brand new mongers. A few months ago, a monger was asking how to get extras at an AMP. I basically said to treat the lady as a lady and if you look like Pompero Firpo or Haystacks Calhoun you probably have little chance anyway. So A2 thinks I am probably a bit too snarky, deletes both posts, and then chides me this morning for not posting. I thought that both of my last two posts were fine and I have posted relatively recently about my experience with jenny at Assol. No, I do not monger as much as most but I DO try to post when appropriate and in a polite, albeit snarky, manner. A2 seems to be very thin fore-skinned.

I went to a Bengals game earlier this year and 2 young (twenties) girls were in the row in front of me. Good seats. 45 yd line.

They did nothing but take / post selfies all night. Not sure who they got the tickets from but also not sure why they went to pay for overpriced crap beer when they could have gone to Holy Grail and found some schmuck to buy drinks all night.

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I think smartphones and selfies have ruined a generation. Girls snapping pics for immediate approval / feedback. Complete narcissism is the rule of the day now. They have all these apps to make eyes bigger, remove blemishes, etc. Seriously. When is the last time you didn't see a chick sitting around making duck lips and snapping pics until they have one they like?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;4014378]Yeah some black guys are fucked up just like any other race. I'm speaking from my experiences. I treat every women I see or attempt to see with respect. The thing with most black guys is they know the bs and attitude black women can bring and won't put up with it. I won't over pay and won't be intimidated by them running their mouths or trying some stupid shit. I'll see a black provider if she is highly rated or reviewed but I'm not into spending my money and having someone tell me what I have to do. I've had women in just about every race the most difficult have been black girls. Even the ones that aren't in the game most have a mouth that won't quit and very disrespectful. Where I work I encounter them everyday there are some nice ones but I'm telling you they can be a handful. I'm not knocking you man and I'm not trying to knock the black girls business, but as I said I've been black my whole 60 plus years on earth you encounter a black girl from time to time I talk to legitimate black men everyday and they all say the same sisters are a handful. We still love we'll still marry them but they're still hard to handle. HL29.[/QUOTE]I see black girls regularly and don't really seem to have any issues with them. Have I met a few that a bit of an attitude or just been out right uptight b* sure I have, but not out of proportion to the white girls with the same issues. Just my experience. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Play3447;4015576]I see black girls regularly and don't really seem to have any issues with them. Have I met a few that a bit of an attitude or just been out right uptight b* sure I have, but not out of proportion to the white girls with the same issues. Just my experience. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I agree. I've heard black girls won't do BBBJ, GFE, DFK, DATY. Plenty do! As for the attitude, I think I like a little edge to a woman's personality!

[QUOTE=TMeister;4014990]She also liked to kiss and cuddle after swallowing my hot goo so that was a nice GFE touch.[/QUOTE]Nuthin like swapping yer own cum. 😧.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;4016381]Nuthin like swapping yer own cum. 😧.[/QUOTE]I guess it's better than swappin someone else's cum. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrNails;4016460]I guess it's better than swappin someone else's cum. LOL.[/QUOTE]When you're with a provider, you can guarantee that you are, regardless of what you think. Maybe she brushed her teeth, and gargled if you're lucky.

Last night out of the blue, I get a text "Hey baby I'm available for outcall, Want some fun in your life? You have to see me tonight. My donation is $$. 25 Last four digits are 2663 and come back to several ads in various places for a I believe TGTBT Any thoughts or ideas? No idea where she may have got my digits. I know I have never reached out to this one because of the TGTBT?