Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=TommyShep;6431582]Pretty sound advice. But can anyone confirm the rates in the rules? At least around flint. And can anyone, without being too specific give some real life "location" advice. I know there are parks in the area. Are they generally safe? Or should I avoid those. I am speaking in terms of car dates. To avoid anything too specific. Maybe just some advice on where not to go in the area. And yes, I'm aware that any sort of car play is risky.[/QUOTE]Up and down Fenton RD from just north of Atherton Rd and south to the bridge, then North and West of Davison Rd and Franklin.

[QUOTE=Alan1212;6432803]Up and down Fenton RD from just north of Atherton Rd and south to the bridge, then North and West of Davison Rd and Franklin.[/QUOTE]I meant on Fenton just south of Atherton and north to the bridge.

[QUOTE=TommyShep;6430984]I've never picked up a SW. Been trolling around lately. Saw a couple I would mind trying in the Davison / Franklin area. What should I expect to pay one of these girls and do they usually have spots they like to go to or should I have a spot in mind before hand. Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]Whatever you do, if you pick up a SW, do NOT pay her up front. Show her you have the money, but under no circumstances pay her first or she will quit and get out and you will leave empty-handed and unfulfilled. If you want what you are paying for, don't pay for it until after you get it. Tell them you don't pay up front, and if they don't like it tell them to get out. They will realize they won't win, they will capitulate, and you will get what you are paying for, then you pay, and you both go away getting what you want. Pay up front and you will more than likely leave without what you paid for.

[QUOTE=Wanttoknow67;6424942]Mr. Wiggles0923 your inbox is full.

Is the Halo open?[/QUOTE]I stopped for a bit. Still no walkers that I have seen. Halo is open but it is a crap shoot. A lot of tweakers that might not know what you are trying to do. Now story time, this last winter I was in Philly and it was cold. It is amazing what people will do for shelter in the cold. At the commuter train station there were a bunch of homeless seeking warmth. Saw a youngish lady, likely new to the homeless life but not to poverty. I said to her "got a sec, with a wink. " She was hesitant but it was still pretty public. Now this is where the addrenalin rush happens, but it was Christmas so what the hell. So I started talking to her, she seemed sober, no one followed us. So I said, hey how about a room for the night, we can share. Plus something for a meal. She came with me got her dinner, had a great evening at a low quality motel where people look the other way, left in the morning. What a rush but so worth it.

[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;6468227]I stopped for a bit. Still no walkers that I have seen. Halo is open but it is a crap shoot. A lot of tweakers that might not know what you are trying to do. Now story time, this last winter I was in Philly and it was cold. It is amazing what people will do for shelter in the cold. At the commuter train station there were a bunch of homeless seeking warmth. Saw a youngish lady, likely new to the homeless life but not to poverty. I said to her "got a sec, with a wink. " She was hesitant but it was still pretty public. Now this is where the addrenalin rush happens, but it was Christmas so what the hell. So I started talking to her, she seemed sober, no one followed us. So I said, hey how about a room for the night, we can share. Plus something for a meal. She came with me got her dinner, had a great evening at a low quality motel where people look the other way, left in the morning. What a rush but so worth it.[/QUOTE]That's how to fuckin' do it! I've had similar experiences including I would call amazing surprisely good time.

PS: New around here. What is "Halo"?

[QUOTE=UtrFucker;6479603]That's how to fuckin' do it! I've had similar experiences including I would call amazing surprisely good time.

PS: New around here. What is "Halo"?[/QUOTE]Halo Burger is a fast food joint. They one I am referring to is on Brick St. Down town. Food is good and the homeless company is touch and go.

I am still looking for a 18-19-20 lady that is out there. I do not even know where to find ads for them.

For those of you who have been around for a while, Harley has been around for a long time. She used to dance at a couple of the clubs. I was passing through the East side for work and there she was! Still has the body of z girl much younger than her 45 years. Got a room and spent some time exploring. Unfortunately, she doesn't have a phone at the moment, but keep your eyes open! She's around, she said she usually walks Franklin and the side streets between Leith and Davison!

I've never picked anyone up, always felt a little too sketchy, but I think I'd like to try it. I've read the FAQ, and I've gone through the posts in this channel a bit. What times of day would you guys recommend? Any other advice you would give to someone just starting out?

[QUOTE=Brontus;6509079]I've never picked anyone up, always felt a little too sketchy, but I think I'd like to try it. I've read the FAQ, and I've gone through the posts in this channel a bit. What times of day would you guys recommend? Any other advice you would give to someone just starting out?[/QUOTE]Use to be an all you can eat buffet and is now like an empty car lot. Once you see one SW you will see all of them. I would drive around the recent locations mentioned below. Keep your door locked until one wants to get in. Do a cop check and move along. Remember you do this in scary places around scary people. It is hard to rob a moving target. When they hop in you will be scared and anxious. Deep breaths, do the cop check before saying anything. Just ask, can I touch you then do it.

I always drive around looking for people sitting in cars. It might indicate a sting. If they pull you iver,. Say you were lost trying to get downtown or a nearby restaurant. Then say that you will be silent. Make sure you know a nearby restaurant. If you are pulled over with the girl in the car, say nothing, invoke your right to remain silent.

If the girl is legit take her to a Notel that you already have a room at, or a quite empty area, then boot her out. You pay her to leave. Make sure you drive a mile from where you pick her up.

[QUOTE=Brontus;6509079]I've never picked anyone up, always felt a little too sketchy, but I think I'd like to try it. I've read the FAQ, and I've gone through the posts in this channel a bit. What times of day would you guys recommend? Any other advice you would give to someone just starting out?[/QUOTE]Law enforcement has allocated most their resources into human trafficking, not to say they don't do stings but most hookers are online. A real streetwalker will ask a general question like "she needs a ride" and then get in. A cop will try and get you to make the whole $ for service agreement from the drivers window. Decoys don't get in cars so for the most part so don't talk $ until you are driving away. PART 2. Never go to their suggested spot, have your own place picked out to go. Make sure this place isn't your house as well.

[QUOTE=Wiggles0923;6509333]If the girl is legit take her to a Notel that you already have a room at, or a quite empty area, then boot her out. You pay her to leave. Make sure you drive a mile from where you pick her up.[/QUOTE]You don't recommend driving them back into their area?

[QUOTE=Brontus;6512727]You don't recommend driving them back into their area?[/QUOTE]I've been picking up SW off and on since 1984,99. 5% of them are looking to score money the easiest way they can for their next fix, no matter how many times you've seen them they'll take your money and run, or some dude will come up to you and try to rob you. You have to give your self a slight edge, by taking them out of the area they operate in you reduce the odds of a cash and dash or robbery, doesn't eliminate the chance of it happening, just tilts the odds a wee bit more in your favor.

I was bored so I drove around the usual haunts 5-8 pm. I'm an old timer that really hasn't done the Flint cruise in a few years.

Eastside? Dead! Not a one.

Northside? Dead! (not surprising though).

Southside? The only SW I saw for the evening was on Fenton 2 or 3 blocks north of Atherton, and she was SCARY! She looked a lot like Alice Cooper! NOPE!

I sure do miss the old days. 15 years ago, a cruise on those three haunts (and add Dort for good measure) would have produced DOZENS of girls, some quite hot, stripper caliber.

[QUOTE=Brontus;6512727]You don't recommend driving them back into their area?[/QUOTE]A bit of exercise is good for anyone. Actually depends on the service. Never where they want but the general area is good.

[QUOTE=Duuz200;6513155]I was bored so I drove around the usual haunts 5-8 pm. I'm an old timer that really hasn't done the Flint cruise in a few years.

Eastside? Dead! Not a one.

Northside? Dead! (not surprising though).

Southside? The only SW I saw for the evening was on Fenton 2 or 3 blocks north of Atherton, and she was SCARY! She looked a lot like Alice Cooper! NOPE!

I sure do miss the old days. 15 years ago, a cruise on those three haunts (and add Dort for good measure) would have produced DOZENS of girls, some quite hot, stripper caliber.[/QUOTE]Does anyone have any intuition on WHY providers in the hobby are getting so scarce?

Is the rise of cheaper, more potent candy making it so providers don't need as much funds for their fix? Online sites like OF? Or is uncle LEO really putting a stop to the hobby?

Sorry if that sounds like a dumb question. I'm genuinely curious and don't know a lot about the inner workings of these providers.

[QUOTE=Ronny49;6513716]Does anyone have any intuition on WHY providers in the hobby are getting so scarce?

Is the rise of cheaper, more potent candy making it so providers don't need as much funds for their fix? Online sites like OF? Or is uncle LEO really putting a stop to the hobby?

Sorry if that sounds like a dumb question. I'm genuinely curious and don't know a lot about the inner workings of these providers.[/QUOTE]It's probably all three. Other cities in the Midwest are still decent. Columbus comes to mind. Although I think all cities in the 1st world have seen a decline.

Had a little time to waist the other morning so decided to take a stroll thru the east side and came upon a not too bad looking lady just south of the grocery store off Franklin. Her body looked decent, face was rough but scooped her up and off we went further north and found a spot in abandoned driveway. Pretty decent head for not much loot. There are still some opportunities out there to my surprise. I was really thinking it'd be a ghost town. Her name was Tess, short skinny brunette probably about 40. Tattoo in the tramp stamp area. Kinda felt like a blast from the past in that area, only difference is way more holes in the ground which used to be houses.

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After recommendation below, I decided to take a stroll to Flint on the East side near Franklin and Leith. Sure as shit, Harley was there.

She's a little thing, with a little bit of a paunch. Can't stop talking. Head game is on point, though. Quick and easy. Offered me her number, but I declined. In retrospect, I wish I'd gotten it.

I'm not from the area, moved in from out of State. Could someone brief what the "sides" are? "east side, south side", etc. So someone newer to the area like me can get an idea of where those areas to cruise would be? Thanks.

[QUOTE=UtrFucker;6521174]I'm not from the area, moved in from out of State. Could someone brief what the "sides" are? "east side, south side", etc. So someone newer to the area like me can get an idea of where those areas to cruise would be? Thanks.[/QUOTE]EAST: Franklin Rd between Davison Rd and Richfield (all the side streets too).
SouthFenton Rd. From 12th to Bristol Rd.

Its pretty dry out there, you might find one if you are at the right place and time. I make them part of my regular travel and keep an eye out. I might see 1 or two every so often, nothing regular or reliable.

[QUOTE=AsstroNutt;6528755]EAST: Franklin Rd between Davison Rd and Richfield (all the side streets too).
SouthFenton Rd. From 12th to Bristol Rd.

Its pretty dry out there, you might find one if you are at the right place and time. I make them part of my regular travel and keep an eye out. I might see 1 or two every so often, nothing regular or reliable.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Those are the best areas to cruise for SW's I take it?

I made a few passes through the area this afternoon, Fenton road had nothing to see and after a few passes I met Danielle by the liquor store at Laith and Franklin. A thin 40 ish WSW with brunette hair, she said she's in the area a lot, nice enough gal 30 BBBJ was fantastic.

I was pretty bummed to learn Natalie from Franklin road area passed away in early June, she was 35. Rest easy Natalie.

[QUOTE=LookingForA10;6549889]I was pretty bummed to learn Natalie from Franklin road area passed away in early June, she was 35. Rest easy Natalie.[/QUOTE]So sad. She was a good one. Overdose I presume?

[QUOTE=Fundboy;6550165]So sad. She was a good one. Overdose I presume?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure, I got a message from her she just got out of county in early June, she died just a few days after that, that seems to be how overdoses happen. Very sad.

[QUOTE=OnlineAnon69;6514378]Had a little time to waist the other morning so decided to take a stroll thru the east side and came upon a not too bad looking lady just south of the grocery store off Franklin. Her body looked decent, face was rough but scooped her up and off we went further north and found a spot in abandoned driveway. Pretty decent head for not much loot. There are still some opportunities out there to my surprise. I was really thinking it'd be a ghost town. Her name was Tess, short skinny brunette probably about 40. Tattoo in the tramp stamp area. Kinda felt like a blast from the past in that area, only difference is way more holes in the ground which used to be houses.[/QUOTE]She posts regularly on Skip.

[QUOTE=Trav78;6553486]She posts regularly on Skip.[/QUOTE]I've seen the ads on stg with Tess, and this one that saw on the east side was not the same one. This one looked kinda Italian.

[QUOTE=LookingForA10;6549889]I was pretty bummed to learn Natalie from Franklin road area passed away in early June, she was 35. Rest easy Natalie.[/QUOTE]Let's take a moment to remember her and also the other girls that are memorialized on this forum.

It's a reminder that we need to be cautious and empathetic in our actions, especially when it comes to someone who might be struggling with drug issues.

The next time you find yourself dreaming about a lady who seems to be facing such challenges, let's all make an effort to reach out and support them instead or take a hard pass.

-=CT.

[QUOTE=CatTom001;6569341]Let's take a moment to remember her and also the other girls that are memorialized on this forum.

It's a reminder that we need to be cautious and empathetic in our actions, especially when it comes to someone who might be struggling with drug issues.

The next time you find yourself dreaming about a lady who seems to be facing such challenges, let's all make an effort to reach out and support them instead or take a hard pass.

-=CT.[/QUOTE]RIP the following women gave me great dreams and memories: Natalia, Charlotte, Big Pussy Lips Amber. I miss them. Thanks JRP for the hookups.

Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=Ronny49;6513716]Does anyone have any intuition on WHY providers in the hobby are getting so scarce?

Is the rise of cheaper, more potent candy making it so providers don't need as much funds for their fix? Online sites like OF? Or is uncle LEO really putting a stop to the hobby?

Sorry if that sounds like a dumb question. I'm genuinely curious and don't know a lot about the inner workings of these providers.[/QUOTE]IMO, 1) cell phones are easy to get and use and 2) if a SW takes a few pictures and puts them on STG or EB, voila, she's now an "escort" and can charge 4-5 times as much. Plus, OF makes them instant cash as well.

15 years ago, I had a go-to gal in Detroit who I'd see every month for a quick BJ in an alley or driveway. Not great to look at overly chatty, sort of cute. But once we'd agreed on a price ($15-25 usually), she'd perform like there was no tomorrow. Anyway, she vanished for many years. 3 months ago, guess who's on EB and STG in Detroit offering incall massages with happy endings for 200/ hour? Yep, that's her.

It makes sense though. Every customer of a SW represents a risk of a crazoid customer, a non-paying customer, LE watching, getting observed in the act. Etc. All for $25-30? Put up an online ad. Screen the customer a bit, and make 4-5 times as much from seeing just one guy, with 4-5 times less the risk.

Was driving yesterday after 5 and did a loop around the track. Saw 7 SW in my travels. Didn't have time to pick up any and not sure I would have. Most of them were looking very strung out. 4 on Franklin, 1 on Dort, 1 on Carpenter, and 1 on Saginaw.

[QUOTE=Fitzie00;6570235]IMO, 1) cell phones are easy to get and use and 2) if a SW takes a few pictures and puts them on STG or EB, voila, she's now an "escort" and can charge 4-5 times as much. Plus, OF makes them instant cash as well.

15 years ago, I had a go-to gal in Detroit who I'd see every month for a quick BJ in an alley or driveway. Not great to look at overly chatty, sort of cute. But once we'd agreed on a price ($15-25 usually), she'd perform like there was no tomorrow. Anyway, she vanished for many years. 3 months ago, guess who's on EB and STG in Detroit offering incall massages with happy endings for 200/ hour? Yep, that's her.

It makes sense though. Every customer of a SW represents a risk of a crazoid customer, a non-paying customer, LE watching, getting observed in the act. Etc. All for $25-30? Put up an online ad. Screen the customer a bit, and make 4-5 times as much from seeing just one guy, with 4-5 times less the risk.[/QUOTE]I think this makes sense as far why the SW scene is much more limited. But it seems like the online options are significantly less than before as well. It's not just the SW scene that is minimal options, but everyone online too.

I made three separate trips through the east side yesterday. All before 2 PM. There was always at least one out for your pleasure but the quality was quite low. I did not partake. Two LEO in the area. Both were out of their cars knocking on doors. No lights or backup so I think they might have been doing wellness checks or something. Seeing one would have been interesting but two doing the same thing 7 or 8 blocks apart was worth noting and so I am reporting it to you.

Just took a cruise down Franklin and didn't see anything. Came back around on Delaware and when I got to the corner there was a Walker, white girl middle age, red dyed hair, short white dress with heals. We made eye contact and I was going to swing around but before I could get to the next block a Flint Cop was sitting on Delaware in his SUV looking right down the street as the Walker was heading. She was on Delaware almost to Franklin coming East and he was behind her.

[QUOTE=TheGler;6602769]Just took a cruise down Franklin and didn't see anything. Came back around on Delaware and when I got to the corner there was a Walker, white girl middle age, red dyed hair, short white dress with heals. We made eye contact and I was going to swing around but before I could get to the next block a Flint Cop was sitting on Delaware in his SUV looking right down the street as the Walker was heading. She was on Delaware almost to Franklin coming East and he was behind her.[/QUOTE]Sounds like it could of been a setup. I've never seen a flint SW wearing heels while walking. It could of just been a coincidence. I don't hunt as much but the last couple times I was out, there was nothing anywhere. Papa Be.

[QUOTE=TheGler;6602769]Just took a cruise down Franklin and didn't see anything. Came back around on Delaware and when I got to the corner there was a Walker, white girl middle age, red dyed hair, short white dress with heals. We made eye contact and I was going to swing around but before I could get to the next block a Flint Cop was sitting on Delaware in his SUV looking right down the street as the Walker was heading. She was on Delaware almost to Franklin coming East and he was behind her.[/QUOTE]Glad you're safe, Bro. You got to trust your gut. Sounds like you dodged a bullet. I have abandoned walkers. This is a dangerous hobby with high risk and small reward. I've never been to Amsterdam but wish we had a legal red light district here. Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=DoubleDribble;6604402]Glad you're safe, Bro. You got to trust your gut. Sounds like you dodged a bullet. I have abandoned walkers. This is a dangerous hobby with high risk and small reward. I've never been to Amsterdam but wish we had a legal red light district here. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]Been there. Its going to be like $3-400 for your typical half hour service with anyone decent looking. If you pay that here youll find a little better hotels and less hassle.

Hit the track Sunday afternoon. Wasn't sure what I'd find. Crystal, Ashley, and Jen were walk8 ng in the rain. Picked up Crystal however probably won't repeat. For those interested, she gladly accepted. 2 for BBBJ. No upsell as she was just glad to get out of the cold and rain. Probably will see Ashley next time. I never saw Jen, however Crystal said Jen wad walking today and Naomi has been out all week. All within a few blocks of Franklin and Leith. Crystal just wasn't my type. Can't fault her though. Lots of cigarette smoke, however she was clean and freshly showered. She said she just woke up.