I have to say that I am missing "Tiffany" from the Play Pen / J's. Yeah she was old, but she was reliably fun. I'm guessing she's retired. I'm also guessing she is a large part of why J's was closed. But, I still miss the fun.
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I have to say that I am missing "Tiffany" from the Play Pen / J's. Yeah she was old, but she was reliably fun. I'm guessing she's retired. I'm also guessing she is a large part of why J's was closed. But, I still miss the fun.
On an earlier June weekend, I managed to spend time at Carl's at night, for as Visconti5683 aptly notes, they are the only action in Melrose Park / Stone Park in terms of lingerie bars. Had good times with Foxy (petite AA MILF), Jasmine (thick, white), and Maddie (or Maddy) (mixed or Latina, med build).
I didn't sync so much with Anna, an extremely sexy Latina spinner, but who never once turned to face me during the dance--it was all booty and not sensual, nor would I repeat with Emily, a thick AA with huge breasts--she was my type body-wise, but was extremely quiet--she said nothing beyond her name to me; even though I tried to engage in conversation with her, she just offered me a thin smile that didn't look genuine. Maybe she was having a bad night? Also had a dance with Ruby, who was very athletic--too much bouncing to the point that I was in pain--and no grinding / not sensual. She was also a high pressure seller, which was a turn off.
Did I mention that I miss the old Louie's?
[QUOTE=Chicagorfp;5415775]On an earlier June weekend, I managed to spend time at Carl's at night, for as Visconti5683 aptly notes, they are the only action in Melrose Park / Stone Park in terms of lingerie bars. Had good times with Foxy (petite AA MILF), Jasmine (thick, white), and Maddie (or Maddy) (mixed or Latina, med build).
I didn't sync so much with Anna, an extremely sexy Latina spinner, but who never once turned to face me during the dance--it was all booty and not sensual, nor would I repeat with Emily, a thick AA with huge breasts--she was my type body-wise, but was extremely quiet--she said nothing beyond her name to me; even though I tried to engage in conversation with her, she just offered me a thin smile that didn't look genuine. Maybe she was having a bad night? Also had a dance with Ruby, who was very athletic--too much bouncing to the point that I was in pain--and no grinding / not sensual. She was also a high pressure seller, which was a turn off.
Did I mention that I miss the old Louie's?[/QUOTE]I have been to Carl's a couple of times (years ago) and have never really seen any dancers there, that is how I wind down at Bobby's. At what time do they actually have dancers working at Carl's?
[QUOTE=SouthSideRed;5429913]At what time do they actually have dancers working at Carl's?[/QUOTE]The times I've gone to Carl's when dancers were featured was after 9:00 pm On a weekend night (Fri / Sat). Other folks may have to chime in with respect to different days and times.
I go week days after work so I would say I get there about 4-5 and there are dancers. If I remember correctly a few years ago that wasn't the case. These past few months there have been more dancers early evening on the week days then before.
[QUOTE=Chicagorfp;5432144]The times I've gone to Carl's when dancers were featured was after 9:00 pm On a weekend night (Fri / Sat). Other folks may have to chime in with respect to different days and times.[/QUOTE]
I just got word from a reliable source that girls will be dancing again at Louies either this week or next week (not sure yet). Has anyone else heard anything? I'll report back as I know more but I'm thinking things may be getting back to normal here.
Dropped my son off O'Hare last Monday. Figured I would check in at Carl's. Got there around 11, place was dead, looked to be less than ten customers. I only saw one girl working, but others could have been in locker room and even at back seating area. They wanted $10 and an I'd. I figured not worth it, bought some beer at liquor store next door and headed home.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;5434097]Dropped my son off O'Hare last Monday. Figured I would check in at Carl's. Got there around 11, place was dead, looked to be less than ten customers. I only saw one girl working, but others could have been in locker room and even at back seating area. They wanted $10 and an I'd. I figured not worth it, bought some beer at liquor store next door and headed home.[/QUOTE]Mister melrose. You don't mention, however I think I read in the forum here further down. They are now scanning I. D. s as well? I know when I leave the flea on saturdays late afternoon louie's looks crowded. Carls I don't really know as it seems more of an after dark place. Since the situation at j's went down the whole area seems dead though. I would think these little villages are making amendments to licenses now that there have been problems. It will be interesting to see what goes in at j's, I know playpen is still dead or at least the last I checked. I'll be out looking around over the next three days and report in if there is something of interest. Stosh be careful all.
[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;5435568]Mister melrose. You don't mention, however I think I read in the forum here further down. They are now scanning I. D. s as well? I know when I leave the flea on saturdays late afternoon louie's looks crowded. Carls I don't really know as it seems more of an after dark place. Since the situation at j's went down the whole area seems dead though. I would think these little villages are making amendments to licenses now that there have been problems. It will be interesting to see what goes in at j's, I know playpen is still dead or at least the last I checked. I'll be out looking around over the next three days and report in if there is something of interest. Stosh be careful all.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the updates on what's going on with the bars in the area. I was just wondering what is keeping them at bay (covid, shooting, etc) and how long it is going to last. I work in the area every now and then, and enjoy a beer and dance after work.
[QUOTE=SouthSideRed;5436992]Thanks for the updates on what's going on with the bars in the area. I was just wondering what is keeping them at bay (covid, shooting, etc) and how long it is going to last. I work in the area every now and then, and enjoy a beer and dance after work.[/QUOTE]Mr. South side. However one of the guys that is an over seer I like to call them in melrose does security for the flea. What I didn't know and this all happened right around the time of the shooting and murder at j's (read down in melrose here) as some of the guys actually know the girls, there was also a killing that wound up as a car chase through the city and out in this area to near that real strip club at lake and mannheim. There's a couple of places right there to the east of heim on the north side of lake. These private clubs and really I don't know what they have other than the obvious one that has been there for years. So that said there were two immediate murders and then I am sure when covid hit it was all over. I doubt darts boys are going to allow j's to ever come back as it was as surveillance tape was confiscated and then this all hit the media so the politicos are just not going to allow this on their watch. I mean that entire area up and down heim from say after the hill which under is addison so say south of belmont all the way until lake. Those notels, the day rate places, kitchenette rooming houses, slot joint and shot and a beer joints and of course those biikini bars we used to call them it's been shady for 60 years and no one has made any changes. It's really a depressed area. Not dangerous really as there are some decent homes and communities on both sides. So it's a wait and see imo.
[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;5438161]Mr. South side. However one of the guys that is an over seer I like to call them in melrose does security for the flea. What I didn't know and this all happened right around the time of the shooting and murder at j's (read down in melrose here) as some of the guys actually know the girls, there was also a killing that wound up as a car chase through the city and out in this area to near that real strip club at lake and mannheim. There's a couple of places right there to the east of heim on the north side of lake. These private clubs and really I don't know what they have other than the obvious one that has been there for years. So that said there were two immediate murders and then I am sure when covid hit it was all over. I doubt darts boys are going to allow j's to ever come back as it was as surveillance tape was confiscated and then this all hit the media so the politicos are just not going to allow this on their watch. I mean that entire area up and down heim from say after the hill which under is addison so say south of belmont all the way until lake. Those notels, the day rate places, kitchenette rooming houses, slot joint and shot and a beer joints and of course those biikini bars we used to call them it's been shady for 60 years and no one has made any changes. It's really a depressed area. Not dangerous really as there are some decent homes and communities on both sides. So it's a wait and see imo.[/QUOTE]You think the city would be happy to re-open the bars for dances again, just to get the tax income from the businesses. The few times I have been at the bars here, it has been a ghost town, maybe one or two guys having a beer. Can't make much tax income from that kind of business. But on a happy note, I have been saving a lot of money!
[QUOTE=SouthSideRed;5438359]You think the city would be happy to re-open the bars for dances again, just to get the tax income from the businesses. The few times I have been at the bars here, it has been a ghost town, maybe one or two guys having a beer. Can't make much tax income from that kind of business. But on a happy note, I have been saving a lot of money![/QUOTE]So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.
As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.
I have not been in to Louie's lately & have not asked anyone if they are aware of any changes there. I may go in & see for myself & see but I've sort of steered away from that whole area in the past few months. I've been asked if I have any affiliation to these bars or any other entity & the answer is no. I just happen to know a few business owners in the area (not bars or clubs or anything related to this scene) & they keep up on what's going on with things & really seem to know the right people for credible fact based info.
The status of J's & Playpen has come up. Playpen is completely no more. The building is home to a Mexican seafood restaurant now called La Ancla. The only snapper you're likely to get there will be on a plate with a side of rice. As far as J's goes, it's my understanding is they were permanently stripped of all licenses & permits to operate & will not be allowed to reopen. What happens to the building is yet to be determined.
[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;5439908]So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.
As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.
I have not been in to Louie's lately & have not asked anyone if they are aware of any changes there. I may go in & see for myself & see but I've sort of steered away from that whole area in the past few months. I've been asked if I have any affiliation to these bars or any other entity & the answer is no. I just happen to know a few business owners in the area (not bars or clubs or anything related to this scene) & they keep up on what's going on with things & really seem to know the right people for credible fact based info.
The status of J's & Playpen has come up. Playpen is completely no more. The building is home to a Mexican seafood restaurant now called La Ancla. The only snapper you're likely to get there will be on a plate with a side of rice. As far as J's goes, it's my understanding is they were permanently stripped of all licenses & permits to operate & will not be allowed to reopen. What happens to the building is yet to be determined.[/QUOTE]In my book you are our president! All of this makes sense as an observer and being up here for a few years now I get around the area all the time so I have been nodding my head in confirmation all of your appreciated intel. I was just going to post that pen was now a restaurant as well. Since the flea opened up down there and I have not been visiting the little self serve car wash near fullerton I take another way down and over to lake and heim. Looks like that with all of the negative publicity those little pockets are being exposed. J's I mean yea who really knows, however what was will never be again imo. Even that kitchenette flop house that burned several months ago is still in the same condition! Again you go up to rosemont and it looks like little vegas. You go east on north and melrose has an abundance of tax revenue from major retailers. Then you go down by lake in that little pocket west on lake at heim and north on heim through stone and yep it's just little places. Some of which have been there for years and years!! Thanks again, mayor! Stosh.
[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;5439908]So, I have been holding off on commenting here until I heard from one of the people I trust to get back to me with the straight story. As things stand now, there has been no reversal on the dancer ban for Melrose Park. None of the bars we consider the lingerie / bikini bars are allowed to have dancers by ordinance. The question has come up regarding why the Gentlemens clubs can & it has to do with the entertainment license. That license comes along with requirements like security, capacity etc. That doesn't mean bars won't stop trying to figure a way around the ordinances. That's how the lingerie bars started. They called it a Fashion show, used an outside company to run it & sold raffle tickets instead of charging for a dance. All ways of stepping around the rules. If you may recall, since the dancer ban, Louies tried bringing the girls back a few different ways. They were just customers (that happened to dance for other customers), as massage girls etc. Each time they did that they received a slap on the wrist. The last time it happened, the bartender & the girls all received hefty tickets / fines (500-750 each). So that's what keeps them at bay to answer that question. Please note, this is all confirmed information.
As far as lost business goes, the ones that are hurting are the bars & that does absolutely suck. I have been going to these places for a few decades & I hate to see this happening. The rest of Melrose isn't likely to feel it. Keep in mind how big Melrose Park actually is. Consider things like car dealerships, grocery stores, home centers, etc. , the village isn't going to feel the pain of losing tax revenue from 3 bars. Costco & Menards alone completely dwarf anything that came in from these places. The occasional tank of gas or drive through meal any of us got isn't a make or break for any of those businesses (it's not like it's the only place I ever got these things). Stone park is a different story. It's tiny compared to Melrose. I don't know if there's a gas station, grocery store or any major business in that small town. They definitely can use that money & that's most likely the reason they reversed the ban on Carls.[/QUOTE]I agree that the bars are just a small tax generator for Melrose Park. But I look at it for the trickle down effect. Since I don't live any where near the area, so going there is trip for me. So when I'm in the area, I usually put gas in the car, have lunch, and then hit some stores. I know the city could care less for people like the bar patrons and getting rid of the bars would make the city happy.
[QUOTE=Chicagorfp;5415775]On an earlier June weekend, I managed to spend time at Carl's at night, for as Visconti5683 aptly notes, they are the only action in Melrose Park / Stone Park in terms of lingerie bars. Had good times with Foxy (petite AA MILF), Jasmine (thick, white), and Maddie (or Maddy) (mixed or Latina, med build).
I didn't sync so much with Anna, an extremely sexy Latina spinner, but who never once turned to face me during the dance--it was all booty and not sensual, nor would I repeat with Emily, a thick AA with huge breasts--she was my type body-wise, but was extremely quiet--she said nothing beyond her name to me; even though I tried to engage in conversation with her, she just offered me a thin smile that didn't look genuine. Maybe she was having a bad night? Also had a dance with Ruby, who was very athletic--too much bouncing to the point that I was in pain--and no grinding / not sensual. She was also a high pressure seller, which was a turn off.
Did I mention that I miss the old Louie's?[/QUOTE]What happened to Louies? That was the SPOT the dances for $10 and the grimy backroom.