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"Tacky"? What, are you kidding? Who the hell cares whether you're "tacky" or not? What are you, some gay fashion designer or something? Trust me, no other customer cares what you are wearing. And the dancers probably don't care either. And even if they do, so what?
Wear whatever the hell you want. I wear very loose and soft shorts, commando of course. Track pants? Why? Seems like it would be hot, and just makes it more difficult for the dancers.
[QUOTE=Jerikson40; 1521057]"Tacky"? What, are you kidding? Who the hell cares whether you're "tacky" or not? What are you, some gay fashion designer or something? Trust me, no other customer cares what you are wearing. And the dancers probably don't care either. And even if they do, so what?
Wear whatever the hell you want. I wear very loose and soft shorts, commando of course. Track pants? Why? Seems like it would be hot, and just makes it more difficult for the dancers.[/QUOTE]Modify your shorts so they have vecro holding the seams together down both sides. You can pull them off with one hand like a chip and dale's dancer!
[QUOTE=BenderOver;1521261]Modify your shorts so they have vecro holding the seams together down both sides. You can pull them off with one hand like a chip and dale's dancer![/QUOTE]Yeah, I know a guy who lives in St. Louis and "hangs" out in the action strip club over on the Illinois side of the river. Probably has a closet full of running pants with velcro escape hatches for Jr.
But c'mon guys, you do have to draw a line. Use a little discretion and subtlety and don't make the rest of us sick. It was over the cap for me when I went to Deja Vu in North Hollywood one Saturday night about 2 years ago. Place is jam packed with customers (including many couples) and dancers. But one customer is a portly old grandpa looking guy who is wearing nothing but something like a diaper. I kid you not. I was trying to imagine what kind of cash this guy was dropping for a manager to allow him to cavort in this way. It truly was sickening. Not funny unless it is laughing at someone and that's kind of sickening in itself. But I don't think the guy was trying to be funny. Really his conception of optimal lap dance wear. And maybe so, just proving the point that you have to draw a line. Hopefully dudes draw the line closer in that Diaper Dude. Come to think of it, I haven't returned to DJVNH since that Saturday night 2 years ago.
Any suggestions from you strip club vets on the best clubs for Asian performers? Would prefer that extras are available, but also interested in good eye candy.
Well yeah, of course. But that's basic rules of life. You don't go out of the house wearing a ballet tutu, diapers, and various other stuff that only insane people would wear in public. But shorts is shorts. Everyone wears shorts. Everyone wears basketball shorts. Just try passing thru the mens dept in Walmart or whereever, and see if you don't see 10 racks of basketball shorts. You're supposed to wear them. I just chose to wear three sizes too big. Nobody knows, nobody cares, and as Kramer would say "I'm out there, Jerry, and I'm lovin' every minute of it!"
LOL awesome reply, props for you.
Went to the Bird last night. About 10-12 girls working. Immediately upon arrival, I was met by * (I am terrible at names). She is about 5'6 (with heels about 5'10) , long dark hair, and fair skin. She says she is from Rancho Cucamonga but that her parents are from Guadalajara, MX. She has DDs and a really, really big booty. She probably weighs upwards of 150lbs. Not skinny, not fat, but thick. In any event, long story short, went to get the $10 lappies wherein I was promised that I would leave with a smile on my face if we went to the VIP. I declined and sampled the other varied fare. After about an hour and a half, she came back around and additional $10 lappies ensued. I ended up going to the VIP area and, as advertised, did leave with a smile on my face.
Last week I went to the Bird mid-afternoon Thursday. I didn't get the girl's name. (Dumb me). I want to preface this by saying I've had the ultimate luck in the VIP about a year and half ago. Not just the handy, but full doggy. My report's here if you search.
Anyways, this time I went VIP with this dancer for $150. She promised 20 min and I'd leave happy. We got to the booth, I gave her the $150 and she starts her dance and stick teasing. Then she starts hitting me up for more money. UGH! Gave me a line about the $150 going to the house and she works for tips. She said normally she gets $300 tips for the VIP.
I told her that I didn't have any more money on me. She mentioned the ATM; that if I promised, we could finish and then hit the ATM.
My happy time was becoming a pain in the ass.
I'll end the story there, because that's the important part.
Is it possible to get a girl to say that there'll be no upsell after entering the VIP? OR once she has your money, she'll reneg on the happy ending until you pony up more?
[QUOTE=DJones; 1527312]Last week I went to the Bird mid-afternoon Thursday. I didn't get the girl's name. (Dumb me). I want to preface this by saying I've had the ultimate luck in the VIP about a year and half ago. Not just the handy, but full doggy. My report's here if you search.
Anyways, this time I went VIP with this dancer for $150. She promised 20 min and I'd leave happy. We got to the booth, I gave her the $150 and she starts her dance and stick teasing. Then she starts hitting me up for more money. UGH! Gave me a line about the $150 going to the house and she works for tips. She said normally she gets $300 tips for the VIP.
I told her that I didn't have any more money on me. She mentioned the ATM; that if I promised, we could finish and then hit the ATM.
My happy time was becoming a pain in the ass.
I'll end the story there, because that's the important part.
Is it possible to get a girl to say that there'll be no upsell after entering the VIP? OR once she has your money, she'll reneg on the happy ending until you pony up more?[/QUOTE]That is a truly sickening story. Especially her suggesting that "normally" guys are laying down $450 to spend 20 mins of hardcore time with her on a bench in a semi-public space like she's the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe or something. I know there are dudes pathetic enough to let that happen but I certainly hope it isn't normal. This is one reason why I usually avoid VIP rooms in SCs. If the regular price action doesn't flow towards a money shot, so be it. There's lots of other options to get your project done. If she pushes the right buttons then there's a reasonable tip for her. I'm not a cheapass, just not a stupid ass.
If I do go into a VIP as I did recently at DVCOI, I will have spent enough time with the dancer at a table to know what to expect. I avoid direct negotiating but in the course of normal conversation drop enough commentary that will clue her in on what I expect. Simple funny dirty talk or flirtation. Enough for her to know I'm honorable and not a rube. BTW, my DVCOI partner in the VIP was all in for anything and everything and very hot. When the 30 min session was over she simply stated that "tips are appreciated" but clearly wasn't going to even pout if I said sorry. I took care of her. A few weeks ago another dancer at the same club gifted me with BBBJCIMSW during a series of $10 dances. I knew she'd be generous but not THAT generous. Damn was I surprised! She didn't say a word about a tip but I took care of her as she did me. The Golden Rule. Yeah, there is room for trust even in the sex industry and it is fun to take some time to cultivate it and not just rush to unload.
However, I just have to add that I think this kind of sickening stripper behavior occurs much less than it did during my heyday of going to stripclubs more than 10 years ago. Patrons are more educated and extras are more common in more clubs and so less special and thus, devalued. Not like years ago when lap dances usually were just lap dances outside of 2-3 venues around SoCal. Bottom line it is more competitive now for the girls and expecting dudes to swallow the line that the $150 fee is strictly a house fee and she normally gets $300 on top is just f'ing outrageous! The girls get most of that $150. I'd speculate at least $100. Tips are cool but this is fraud.
Please name the ROB so she can be avoided at any cost!
I checked out the Bird last night from around 6:30 to 8 last night. I hadn't been there in awhile but not much has changed. The guy by the laps with the clipboard is gone. All the faces seemed new except for the creepy managers and the daytime drink lady. I ended up getting a couple of 10 dollar dances with Cinnamon. I usually like a girl who I think has experience, even though she said it was her first stripping job and she has only been there a bit over a month, she had all the right moves only took 2 songs to leave happy.
[QUOTE=HugoTheMan;1532239]I checked out the Bird last night from around 6:30 to 8 last night. I hadn't been there in awhile but not much has changed. The guy by the laps with the clipboard is gone. All the faces seemed new except for the creepy managers and the daytime drink lady. I ended up getting a couple of 10 dollar dances with Cinnamon. I usually like a girl who I think has experience, even though she said it was her first stripping job and she has only been there a bit over a month, she had all the right moves only took 2 songs to leave happy.[/QUOTE]Stopped in for a time early yesterday afternoon to kill some miserable traffic on my way down to Tijuana. Had a few very decent dances and hot hot hot tableside treatment from a couple of the usual suspects. The club was pretty dead and the only SPECTACULAR talent was a WAITRESS who I've never seen before. Can't believe I forgot her name, but she's a 24 year old morena spinner college student a few years out of Veracruz, with a Miss Universe smile. Not particularly a hot body and her top half was hidden under a puffy blouse so hard to confirm if she has a little baby fat or is post partum (strongly doubt the latter). She is nothing less that an ultimate angel. A gift to the universe, a vision of pure goodness ironically stuck in a job where she is the front person for the ladies drink scam.
The seasoned dancers understood her power over me and other customers, and frequently brought her over to apply the power of her heavenly smile. Twice she parked herself on my lap, complies with the dancer's suggestion to deliver a Flamingo Handshake, a sweet kiss on the cheek and I was encouraged by the dancer to give her a touch back which I did. She was embarrassed by all of it and was a good sport. I ended buying a dancer and the waitress a $10 drink each on one occasion, and they made me feel like a rock star getting real close on my opposite flanks. However, this dancer and subsequent dancers attempting the same trick became slightly pissed off with the fact that I could not hide that ALL of my interest was with the waitress. I was too smitten to even care to be polite about it. Well, it was their idea to employ her charms.
Eventually, I just took a spot outside of the standard streams of commerce and the sweetheart came and sat with me for extended periods since the club was mostly dead. She'd get up and serve a drink or do the mandatory running after a couple on their way to the dance area, and then come back and sit me me some more. A couple of chicano dudes stopped to give me a high 5 on their way out of the club implying that they thought I was somehow scoring with the girl, but unfortunately it wasn't anything like that. If I meet this girl in Tijuana (a "civilian" that is) , I have a good chance to hook-up because of the cachet that gringos have south of the border if they can communicate in Spanish. But this chica is already released legally to el norte, has her shit together, and would be a tremendous challenge for an old broken down dude like me even if I have developed some seasoned chica craft from carousing with girls just like her south of the border for 15 years.
So eventually I tore myself away. Didn't go for digits or anything else. If anything just establishing the prerequisite "confianza" to make a very good first impression. So I'm gigantically curious if anyone else has caught up to this living doll and has any insights or experience to share. If I never see her again, I will be forever haunted by the image of her smile, her shy caress of the bulge in my trousers, her sweet kiss, and her enthusiastic revelations about where she's been in her life and where she's thinking about going. Yes, love at first sight like almost never before. But as I recently shared with some friends when discussing a similar situation with another young mexicana immigrant beauty who has no connection with the hobby, who has green lighted me to at least give it my best shot, I've been playing with so many angels for so many years, that I'm an expert in managing my own PLM vulnerabilities. I apologize for spilling this on the site because I know it can be pretty sickening to a bunch of hardened Players, but I am moved.
Nothing wrong with enjoying the company of a beautiful woman. Especially a woman that seems sweet when compared to the more hardened girls working at a strip club.
[QUOTE=The Camel;1534500]I apologize for spilling this on the site because I know it can be pretty sickening to a bunch of hardened Players, but I am moved.[/QUOTE]No apologies needed.
Go for it dude and let us know how it goes!
And that is a bold move in this piranha tank of a forum. You know if show some degree of sensibility around here someone is going to feel the need to brand you "Captain Save A Hoe" and worse.
No my friend if you click with this girl; you go for it.
[QUOTE=The Camel; 1534500]Stopped in for a time early yesterday afternoon to kill some miserable traffic on my way down to Tijuana. Had a few very decent dances and hot hot hot tableside treatment from a couple of the usual suspects. The club was pretty dead and the only SPECTACULAR talent was a WAITRESS who I've never seen before. Can't believe I forgot her name, but she's a...[/QUOTE]I think I know who you are talking about her name is Jasmine.
Stopped in late one night last week. Seemed like about a dozen guys and the lap area was full. But only the waitress was to be seen. At least it was tthe cute brunette and not the bitchy blonde.
Sat down and conveniently, a lady appeared at the same time as my drink. Took a pass on buying a dance or buying her a drink. Didn't catch her name but she's been there a while. T*a walked up after that. Jersey Shore hair but great body.
She gave two pretty good dances but the songs seemed short and got no access past the padded bra.
Sat around for another 20 minutes and no one came around. The? First girl came back. Why not since nothing else was happening. Mediocre dances and still no access past bra.
When did showing tit in lap area go away? No tease no nothing. Used to get something. Is this the new program or bad night? The girls also did not seem interested in making the rounds. A lot of what I thought were paying customers must have been friends since the were walking behind the bar and DJ all the time.
There was a really tall thin girl D*e but she came out of a VIP and never came by.
Bailed after that. Was an off night hopefully.