MSP Sugar

[QUOTE=ChiILGuy33;6229027]I've been seeing Vixxen who is pretty sexy and has a big creampie fetish. It's 350-400 ppm. She heard about this site and asked if I'd post her info. Here's a pic she sent. PM for her digits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5d3316af-4a61-4e46-84a4-4f149250f1de[/URL][/QUOTE]Very nice of you to help her out like that. What would be even better is if the dumb asses would stop pointing out these threads to the woman or alerting them when someone post something about them.

I completely agree I haven't put my toes in sugar daddy ring but I have been watching the sites and it has gone downhill quite a bit even just pictures and age of girls has gone up any advice for a newbie just getting started?

[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;6226964]Downhill at least for budget / salt daddies like me.

I've never really tried to set up a true allowance-based arrangement. If you do that, more power to you and it is in the spirt of the sites. That said, I've had tremendous luck over the years on both sugar sites finding cute enough and fun / genuine partners for occasional NSA fun, especially when traveling.

SecBen site used to get shit on due to their scammy 10 buns /8 hot dogs pricing with credits. The secret was / is to only use credits to message potential SBs you are interested in. That's it. Don't pay to read messages you receive. They are either scams, bots, or high volume time wasters. If you favorite someone and they message you, don't pay to read - 95% it won't be worth it.

The SB site decided to start messaging SDs from SB profiles, which I confirmed with three separate SBs. I mentioned this unfortunate change on a support ticket I'd set up (SBs I had blocked kept showing in my feed) and WHAM, remaining credits refunded + instaban. They didn't deny it but apparently don't like being called out on trying to get SDs to waste credits.

The Seeking pool is 2/3 smaller than just 12-18 months ago and generally less attractive. Seeing the same ol faces and time wasters. Most new SBs just want to chat and have conversations for $. I'm pretty methodical in reviewing all potential SBs within 50 miles who fit my criteria (filter out marriage-minded and platonic) and it only took me a few hours to go through every SB who'd been on the site in the last two weeks. I've messaged 15 and gotten a few replies but before it was closer to a 30-50% reply rate.

I did have luck when traveling recently and found a gem at $300 for the night so Seeking still has some options. I'm just noting it's gotten markedly worse for what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JoeDough;6180373]Anyone hooked up with her? Seems DTF almost semi-pro. Found a no-show report on ECCIE so there's that.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/701f9e7d-4503-4ed8-914d-efa475d4747f[/URL][/QUOTE]I have seen her. Chunkier than her pics. Goes by Tabby now, used to go by TJ. $$ PPM with essentially no limits.

[QUOTE=ToledoRocket52;6231243]I have seen her. Chunkier than her pics. Goes by Tabby now, used to go by TJ. $$ PPM with essentially no limits.[/QUOTE]Enthusiastic and doesn't seem like a user (hard to tell. Only had a car date) but wasn't a repeat for me. May be one of the higher volume members on sugar / WYP etc sites.

You could probably even offer $120-150. She's kind of last call in Brainerd with whiskey goggles hot enough. Or like riding a Vespa. Fun but you wouldn't want your friends to see you.

[QUOTE=ThorsDad;6230193]I completely agree I haven't put my toes in sugar daddy ring but I have been watching the sites and it has gone downhill quite a bit even just pictures and age of girls has gone up any advice for a newbie just getting started?

.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you are looking for quick hookups and not a full arrangement. If you have the funds / willingness to do a full arrangement ($1,000-3,000/ month), PM me and I'll give different advice. This is more for the Salt Daddy / Hunter Daddy crowd aiming for $350 or less PPM.

Seeking is better for MN so start there. Sign up for a free account but don't add pics or a long profile. Just "seeing what's out there" or something vague. Wait 3-7 days and you'll get an offer for 20-33% off. Don't window shop yet. Wait until you have a full membership or you'll get spammed by the scammers, overseas wife wannabees, and time wasters here.

Once you sign up, go to settings and hide your profile and turn off alerts (if you view or fav someone).

Write out a profile what you are looking for and what you are like. Don't be so specific friends / family can I'd you but it'll save everyone time if you share something.

Set your search tags both searching for (casual, discreet, NSA) and filter out members who want tags (platonic, marriage minded, seeking trans, transfriendly). Set height, body type, age requirements. I pretty much only set height limits but you might want to set 20+ as the age. 99% of 18-19 yr olds want chat / online daddies and damn that's young.

Start favoriting and blocking. I block all of the ones who have entitled, angry, or unrealistic wording (princess, don't waste my time, any real men out there, read my profile first, ALL CAPS, mention boundaries, or seven fucking paragraphs of prose) but you do you. The point is you should view / triage all SBs who fit your criteria and block the ones who are non-starters. For me, it's also fake boobs, Kardashian makeup, pics of them on a yacht / sportscar / private plane. Just saves time.

Get a burner number or use Google Voice. Prioritize and start reaching out. You can write some boilerplate messages but customize to include something about their pics and profile. NEVER mention PPM, $ for sex, specific acts. Seeking will ban you quickly for that. Your goal is to connect enough to see if an arrangement is even possible (some will share later that they live in 90 min away. Sigh - or actually only want online) and then transition to text.

Once texting, still try to make a connection but then message, "I want to keep chatting and getting to know you but to save us both time, could we discuss expectations to see if we're a potential good fit? I'm looking for a casual, mainly daytime escape with someone fun. While I want discreet and NSA, I do need chemistry. I can't meet that often but I'm not possessive or jealous. If you are okay meeting 1-2 times per month morning or afternoon, let's keep chatting. " . If that's okay discuss intimacy and $ - "I like to _ in the bedroom. If we were to meet for 1-2 hours, would $300 be acceptable?" - if they insist on an arrangement, explain you can't meet often enough to make that work but are open to the idea in the future.

Some will just want to meet before discussing $ or specifics, which is fine but NEVER SEND A DEPOSIT. EVER. It's a scam, every time. If they complain about gas, offer to drive to them. If they complain about safety, stress you'll meet in a public place of their choosing. The scammers will keep giving excuses. Block and move on. Wishlists? Fuck those. Pure profit for the site. All overpriced garbage.

It's a numbers game but also a 'game game' meaning you either have to have more $ or more game. The more game you have the less $ you'll need to spend. Some want their price point regardless. Good for them. Others will take less if you are decent looking, clean (sad how many guys think it's fine to get intimate with swamp ass or streaks in their underwear), and fun to be with.

At the meet and greet, just have fun and go in with a nothing to lose attitude. The less creepy the better. If you decide to move to being intimate, DayUse site / app is good for hotels before 3 pm. Don't pay the PPM until you are in the room with the door locked. Some will cash / dash on you.

Have fun. Surprise them with small gifts or an extra tip and you're more likely to have a great time.

Hey, that's all great advice and much appreciated it will help a lot.

[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;6232444]I'm assuming you are looking for quick hookups and not a full arrangement. If you have the funds / willingness to do a full arrangement ($1,000-3,000/ month), PM me and I'll give different advice. This is more for the Salt Daddy / Hunter Daddy crowd aiming for $350 or less PPM.

Seeking is better for MN so start there. Sign up for a free account but don't add pics or a long profile. Just "seeing what's out there" or something vague. Wait 3-7 days and you'll get an offer for 20-33% off. Don't window shop yet. Wait until you have a full membership or you'll get spammed by the scammers, overseas wife wannabees, and time wasters here.

Once you sign up, go to settings and hide your profile and turn off alerts (if you view or fav someone).

Write out a profile what you are looking for and what you are like. Don't be so specific friends / family can I'd you but it'll save everyone time if you share something.

Set your search tags both searching for (casual, discreet, NSA) and filter out members who want tags (platonic, marriage minded, seeking trans, transfriendly). Set height, body type, age requirements. I pretty much only set height limits but you might want to set 20+ as the age. 99% of 18-19 yr olds want chat / online daddies and damn that's young...[/QUOTE]

Radar tends to be ok with these things in terms of sorting out bots and scammers but could use some help from board on a few as I am chatting with all three:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ed3996a5-cb70-4cea-9ace-46fd013987dd[/URL]

Pro pics so seems like either pro or trys to lure to web services with mention of snap and only fans.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4458234e-b1d1-494d-abac-8810242d2070[/URL]

Nice body, probably not a pro, several mentions of needing money.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/02d6bcdd-7688-5e81-28da-57202f5d0467[/URL]

The mention of one successful arrangement seems sincere, like her look.

Anyone have experiences with these?

This one has reached out to me a couple times. Have been hesitant based on her location, she says she is in the metro occasionally. Feel free to PM me if you would prefer not to share publicly.

Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce883bc8-5eca-4390-ad18-617fa4734ea8[/URL]

[QUOTE=LongStrongHard;6232837][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4458234e-b1d1-494d-abac-8810242d2070[/URL]

Nice body, probably not a pro, several mentions of needing money.

Anyone have experiences with these?[/QUOTE]This is her message to me, about 2 months ago:

Looking to meet up 2 or 3 times a month, at around $250-$400 a time. We can discuss money though.

[QUOTE=Tool73;6236357]This is her message to me, about 2 months ago:

Looking to meet up 2 or 3 times a month, at around $250-$400 a time. We can discuss money though.[/QUOTE]She told me 500 for 2 x a month with money up front, I mentioned PPM option instead and haven't heard back.

Was working on a meeting with this one. She only had one pic on her profile so I asked if she would share another. Either the pic on her profile is really old, or it is a different person, can't really tell. The two pics she shared (chest up) she has black hair and multiple face piercing. Fairly easy to tell she is not "slim" either, at least by my standards. I'd share the link, but I already blocked her.

[QUOTE=Zipp531;6237386]Was working on a meeting with this one. She only had one pic on her profile so I asked if she would share another. Either the pic on her profile is really old, or it is a different person, can't really tell. The two pics she shared (chest up) she has black hair and multiple face piercing. Fairly easy to tell she is not "slim" either, at least by my standards. I'd share the link, but I already blocked her.[/QUOTE]This one I'm guessing: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/43d5d93e-2a77-4b02-a232-e1f9b11bea5b[/URL].

I have her favorited, but haven't messaged her.

[QUOTE=LongStrongHard;6232837]Radar tends to be ok with these things in terms of sorting out bots and scammers but could use some help from board on a few as I am chatting with all three:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ed3996a5-cb70-4cea-9ace-46fd013987dd[/URL]

Pro pics so seems like either pro or trys to lure to web services with mention of snap and only fans.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4458234e-b1d1-494d-abac-8810242d2070[/URL]

Nice body, probably not a pro, several mentions of needing money.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/02d6bcdd-7688-5e81-28da-57202f5d0467[/URL]

The mention of one successful arrangement seems sincere, like her look.

Anyone have experiences with these?[/QUOTE]The first one (Uptown Girl) is also on Tryst and used to go by Carmen, you can search back a few years as I've seen as well as a few others. Definitely a pro, bigger than pics, but you'll get bare / whatever you want, somewhat of a cumslut if I remember, but that's pretty standard in this space.

Second one (Aimz) was just reviewed / mentioned a couple months ago I think.

[QUOTE=LongStrongHard;6236877]She told me 500 for 2 x a month with money up front, I mentioned PPM option instead and haven't heard back.[/QUOTE]Just FYI, pricing varies based on how good you look in your pics.

I received two different quotes from the same girl a few months apart, when I changed up my pics.

I can't speak for you of course, but this has been my personal experience.

[QUOTE=Freakin69;6237545]This one I'm guessing: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/43d5d93e-2a77-4b02-a232-e1f9b11bea5b[/URL].

I have her favorited, but haven't messaged her.[/QUOTE]She's talking to me right now, as of 11/30. She stopped messaging when she asked me to come on Snapchat and I said I don't have it.