Court Finds 'Happy Endings' To Be Legitimate Massage Procedure

I always feel like the most obvious thing you can do is pull into the lot and sit waiting for the "cumon Up" call.

I usually wait down the street near by, get the call with a room number, roll into the lot, park, and take a bag in with me. Dunkins, lunch, or gym-bag doesn't matter. Just don't bring a bag of rubbers and dildos!

Sometimes I go to a floor above or below by elevator and then take stairs to the actual floor.

The bigger places are a maze and getting lost is pretty normal. Can't say how many times I have exited on the wrong end of a building or missed the elevator-walked down a hallway and had to turn around.

I am guessing that a ton of regular guest get lost as well.

[QUOTE=BenjaminBenji;2812810]Well that all works well but if you really want to fly under the radar wait for someone or a small group of people to walk in and act like you are one of the group.

Ocassionaly I will laugh as I'm walking in as if someone just said something funny, and if you are really good you can time it just right to say something cleaver to the.

Person as your walking in, this way it looks like you know them and they know you. The trick is to not wait outside the door, wait in your car and watch for people getting out of their cars walking in.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jolem;2824097]Your posts all concern the inevitability of publicity if you're arrested. "Cameras everywhere"! Wow.

In contrast, other members post practical tips about which exits to use at hotels, the likelihood of intrusive / nosy staff, even the pros / cons of specific locales.

I'm abandoning this thread -- and any hopes of your posting actual reviews or intel. Buh-bye![/QUOTE]Where's the "like" button?

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2824283]Where's the "like" button?[/QUOTE]I'm looking for it too.

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Its unanimous. Henceforth, Jeishein14 shall be obligated to post in MassHoles and stay there.

If only we had the power. LOL.

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2825232]What is YOUR profession, by the way?

I hope for your sake you didn't come to this site hoping to make friends and exchange information, that, instead, you came here with the intent to alienate yourself by spouting meandering nonsense and, now, attacking the character of respected contributors to this board. Why? Because I like to see people succeed and be happy. You ARE doing an excellent job at the latter. Bravo! Pretty soon you'll be joining the illustrious company of Bozscaggs, Negriso and a handful of others who populate the "Ignore Lists" of countless members based on their pointless argumentativeness, lunacy, and general trolling. I know you'll soon be joining them on mine! Perhaps the Massholes forum is the place for you. I don't know. I don't venture there as I haven't the time or inclination to engage with idiots.

That said, let's stop wasting bandwidth. I have better things to do. Andy's out of town and Miss Crump is feeling a little neglected. Howard Sprague out. <whump hummmmmm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Longjblues;2825384]Its unanimous. Henceforth, Jeishein14 shall be obligated to post in MassHoles and stay there.

If only we had the power. LOL.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Your heartfelt appeal has been heard in the halls of Olympus and we who have the power have acted.

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SEEKONK, MA—A Mansfield man was snared in a sex sting in Seekonk on Wednesday.

The Seekonk Police Department said that 11 men were arrested after they showed up to a location where police were waiting. The men, police said, had responded to ads soliciting sex for money posted to social media sites unaware that the ads were posted by detectives.

Seekonk Police Chief Craig A. Mace said in a news release that the law enforcement team included Seekonk officers and detectives, officers from surrounding local police departments in Massachusetts and federal agents from the Department of Homeland Security.

The men, ranging in age from 29 to 56, are all facing charges of engaging in sexual conduct for a fee and are free on bail after booking at the Seekonk Police Department on Wednesday. They are all due to be arraigned in Taunton District Court on Thursday.

The sting comes not long after Cranston police led a similar sting using the [URL]Backpage.com[/URL] website, which is frequently used by pimps and prostitutes to solicit Johns for sexual services. Police arrested 17 people, including a 21-year-old Providence woman who was trafficking a 16-year-old girl. The rest were all men, mostly middle aged, who thought they were about to pay for sex.

Sex traffickers primarily use social media sites, [URL]Backpage.com[/URL], and other similar sites to conduct their business.

Police are especially concerned about the trafficking of minors and vulnerable people by predators who often brutally rape and abuse their victims.

Law enforcement operations targeting Johns have come under fire from civil rights advocates. The state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union decried the Cranston Police Department's sting last week, saying in a statement that the department was effectively humiliating more than a dozen consenting adults by conflating prostitution with trafficking.

It "does nothing to help the trafficking victims who remain ensnared while consenting adults are pursued and arrested," said ACLU of Rhode Island Policy Associate Hillary Davis. "By humiliating and charging johns for seeking consensual sex and by giving prostitutes arrest records in the name of 'helping' them, these operations misleadingly purport to crack down on human trafficking, when their major effect is just to make the lives of prostitutes more difficult and dangerous, driving sex work even deeper into the shadows. ".

In response, Cranston Police Chief Col. Michael J. Winquist said that the possibility of saving a 16-year-old girl from sex slavery is worth the other arrests for sexual conduct for a fee.

"It is rare for victims of human trafficking to seek assistance on their own as their ability to recognize a need for help is diminished from drug use and conditioning that their lives are worthless," Winquist said. "We will not shield the identities of individuals who come into the City of Cranston looking to pay for sex and will continue to be transparent by making the names of those arrested available to the public through our Department website and media releases. ".

It is the belief of many in law enforcement that both the supply and demand side of the equation should be addressed by police investigations. Social media makes it easy for Johns to find paid-for sex online, creating a lucrative market for traffickers to exploit. Police believe high-profile stings like these will dissuade some Johns from scouring the Internet for sex knowing that a cop might be behind the escort ad.

There is an ongoing debate involving members of law enforcement, civil rights groups and the general public over the enforcement of prostitution laws. Some argue that legalizing prostitution would ensure safety for sex workers and lift some of the stigmas that prevent people from seeking help from drugs or bad situations.

"We commend the organizations in the state actively working to provide social and other support services to sex workers who may have an addiction or need other assistance. But we emphatically reject the notion that the only way these individuals can be helped is if they are first put into handcuffs," Davis said.

[QUOTE=ShortStroke;2850069]It "does nothing to help the trafficking victims who remain ensnared while consenting adults are pursued and arrested," said ACLU of Rhode Island Policy Associate Hillary Davis. "By humiliating and charging johns for seeking consensual sex and by giving prostitutes arrest records in the name of 'helping' them, these operations misleadingly purport to crack down on human trafficking, when their major effect is just to make the lives of prostitutes more difficult and dangerous, driving sex work even deeper into the shadows. ".
[/QUOTE]I can't believe it. I never thought I would see the day I would agree with the ACLU. Did the earth just shift on its' axis?

[QUOTE=ShortStroke;2850069]

In response, Cranston Police Chief Col. Michael J. Winquist said that the possibility of saving a 16-year-old girl from sex slavery is worth the other arrests for sexual conduct for a fee.

[/QUOTE]If this guy doesn't agree with the 4, 5, 6, and 14th amendments, he should resign and move to a different country. "Worth the other (unconstitutional) arrests" is anti-American.

[QUOTE=Brooksy;2850771]If this guy doesn't agree with the 4, 5, 6, and 14th amendments, he should resign and move to a different country. "Worth the other (unconstitutional) arrests" is anti-American.[/QUOTE]That Cranston Police Chief Col. Michael J. Winquist would say anything that his job requires him to say and what would keep PC police happy with his department. In reality for all you know he maybe himself a hobbyist. I can't think of a single provider I spent time with that didn't tell me that she had members of our finest for clients. Moreover I'm sure that there are enough cops that do what many providers do for work: drive to neighboring state for hobbying.

Many cops are finding themselves being forced into a choice of either being two-faced about the whole thing or losing their jobs. Especially now when with in-cruiser cameras and smart phones all over and with Puritan housewives forever on watch, ladies can no longer get themselves off by trading in their pussies.

Imagine what would happen if the good colonel wouldn't say a thing like that? You know he wouldn't have made colonel, that's for sure. In fact for all you know that's how he probably became chief of police in the first place, and by the way he talks good'ol colonel is sure on the way to be a big time "super" somewhere. The way he works it who knows, one day he may even be your congressman!

As for the constitution. Sorry for being one cynical bastard but for a long time now and increasingly so I've come to the conclusion that constitution is nothing more then a notion used by the local elites to keep their "subjects" in the state of happy make believe in order to have ship going in the direction they want it to go without much interference. The long-overdue reaction to this we're seeing right now.

The only thing is that the "controlled" masses apparently are picking another rich boy and the certified member of the hereditary elite (still from daddy to son you know, no matter how you slice the pie) to bring their constitution back.

Well, remember what the last rich boy did to avenge his daddy almost being killed. He got us into Iraq for no apparent rhyme or reason, the long-term affects of which we are seeing now with ISIS and on the streets of Brussels. The only difference that I can see between the two is the latest one's big mouth.

If anybody doubts that this new rich boy is going to do anything different then the last one did they're living in the la-la land. He already wants to be able to sue the press for insulting him which probably is the paramount issue for him and his rich friends. Next thing you know he'd be threatening to send "his army" out if some world leader (like Russian Putin or the Chinese Xi Jinping) calls him a looser or somehow insults his wife. Rich kids do that. For them we all by definition are losers, numbers and the cannon meat. If he gets in - the United States will be "his dukedom" and US military will be "his army". This country reminds me more and more of my old country and by all appearances I expect this resemblance to increase.

Sorry, just had to say it. Somehow mentioning of constitution got it out of me.

If the bill to decriminalize prostitution in NH, introduced by a group of women legislators recently passes, and / or Maxine Doogan is able to succeed in decriminalizing prostitution in California it will most likely be like a domino effect like legalizing / decriminalizing pot and permitting gay couples to marry. Amnesty International is trying to persuade all countries to decriminalize prostitution due to the studies that show criminalizing prostitution is harmful for the sex workers.

[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/01/prostitution-decriminalization-debated-i[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2851495]If the bill to decriminalize prostitution in NH, introduced by a group of women legislators recently passes, and / or Maxine Doogan is able to succeed in decriminalizing prostitution in California it will most likely be like a domino effect like legalizing / decriminalizing pot and permitting gay couples to marry. Amnesty International is trying to persuade all countries to decriminalize prostitution due to the studies that show criminalizing prostitution is harmful for the sex workers.

[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/01/prostitution-decriminalization-debated-i[/URL][/QUOTE]It's been tabled for now, but hope for the future.

[URL]http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/*****-next-door-live-free-or-die-tryin-new-hampshire-hillary-clinton-state-politics-decriminalization-prostitution-sex-work-house-bill/Content?oid=4563075[/URL]

Is to bigger cocks, and that makes me happy because when it comes to my ass the cocks cannot be too large.

Somebody give me some COCK!

What's wrong with posting now? When I was writing the words go straight so you can't form paragraphs. Is it just me? I just want to make it clear that I totally understand why a monger wouldn't want to take part in a sex worker's protest. It'd be crazy to do so unless you have no job and no significant other.

[QUOTE=Jeishein14;2852740]Is to bigger cocks, and that makes me happy because when it comes to my ass the cocks cannot be too large.

Somebody give me some COCK![/QUOTE]Oh, so that's who it is. But of course, how could I have thought otherwise. Toujula's umpteenth reincarnation, this time as a religious fanatic.

Looks like a protracted free speech legal battle is gaining steam. With the contempt ruling now Senate lawyers can file a lawsuit against BP. I suspect though this will be one of those dragged out long legal battles so shouldn't have much immediate impact of our hobbying. But, just out of curiosity, what other advertising venues are out there? Legit Craigslist w 4 m posts have dried up after their troubles a few years back (yes, many providers still reply to m 4 w posts though), City Vibe seems hardly used anymore and Eros seems too expensive for most providers besides the big travelling agencies to advertise on. I know our beloved USASG has implemented providers ads but that really hasn't taken off yet.

[URL]http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/19/backpage-contempt-of-congress-senate/[/URL]

For those of you that don't know what is happening below is an example from Framingham but there is also legislation moving forward at the state level. There abound to be changes in bodywork behavior.

Looking for a tool to help police, Framingham is the latest municipality writing regulations to close the loophole at the state level and require practitioners of bodywork. Which is different from traditional massage. To register with the local Board of Health. The new rules would allow for unannounced inspections, prohibit sexual activity and provocative advertising and require therapists to have certifications, documentation and to be "properly clothed. ".

[QUOTE=MassageMama;3042479]For those of you that don't know what is happening below is an example from Framingham but there is also legislation moving forward at the state level. There abound to be changes in bodywork behavior.

Looking for a tool to help police, Framingham is the latest municipality writing regulations to close the loophole at the state level and require practitioners of bodywork. Which is different from traditional massage. To register with the local Board of Health. The new rules would allow for unannounced inspections, prohibit sexual activity and provocative advertising and require therapists to have certifications, documentation and to be "properly clothed. ".[/QUOTE]

Framingham regs went into effect around the beginning of 2016 (December or January, wasn't it?) Waltham is the latest casualty. Its regs go into effect on the first of September. I've seen proposals in a few other cities. These municipalities are following the lead of others like Arlington who got tired of the proliferation of bodywork shops and concerns over trafficking. Many smaller towns which don't have too many shops ignore them. The regulations for bodywork are pretty much the same from city to city, with a few outliers. In each case, the shops which are serious adapt by getting licensed, usually for massage, which is regulated by the MA DPL and is actually less oppressive than the local boards of health. The shops in Waltham are already preparing, at least the smart ones are. Yes, we will lose providers there, but, like Framingham, they will come back. There's too much money to be made.

With the municipalities stepping up with regulations which are relatively uniform, it's unlikely the Commonwealth will increase its purview. I don't think this is Armageddon for the hobby, just an inconvenience.

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;3042802]Framingham regs went into effect around the beginning of 2016 (December or January, wasn't it?) Waltham is the latest casualty. Its regs go into effect on the first of September. I've seen proposals in a few other cities. These municipalities are following the lead of others like Arlington who got tired of the proliferation of bodywork shops and concerns over trafficking. Many smaller towns which don't have too many shops ignore them. The regulations for bodywork are pretty much the same from city to city, with a few outliers. In each case, the shops which are serious adapt by getting licensed, usually for massage, which is regulated by the MA DPL and is actually less oppressive than the local boards of health. The shops in Waltham are already preparing, at least the smart ones are. Yes, we will lose providers there, but, like Framingham, they will come back. There's too much money to be made.

With the municipalities stepping up with regulations which are relatively uniform, it's unlikely the Commonwealth will increase its purview. I don't think this is Armageddon for the hobby, just an inconvenience.[/QUOTE]There is also a commonwealth effort which worries me more but I agree in some time it will return. After all it has for 3,000.

Years in one form or another!!

Its been the news all day and I'm sure if you haven't seen it you can google it but the two girls are married and the one named crystal used to post on CL back I want to say 2009 - 2010 . Not sure if anyone remembers or met her back but I do and thought I'd post it here just to see if it brings back memories to any of you who might have seen back in her day of CL prostituting.

[URL]http://bostonpolicebuyerbeware.ceasenetwork.org/[/URL]#4 Q3 QkDFTShTt8 kJ0. 97.

[URL]http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/10/technology_helps_cops_track_down_boston_johns[/URL]

[QUOTE=Malibu1980;3044265]Its been the news all day and I'm sure if you haven't seen it you can google it but the two girls are married and the one named crystal used to post on CL back I want to say 2009 - 2010 . Not sure if anyone remembers or met her back but I do and thought I'd post it here just to see if it brings back memories to any of you who might have seen back in her day of CL prostituting.[/QUOTE]Were these the two girls who see to do a 4 hand massage in Quincy? Taller strawberry blond and shorter brunette?

[QUOTE=MrNewton;3114818]Were these the two girls who see to do a 4 hand massage in Quincy? Taller strawberry blond and shorter brunette?[/QUOTE]You are thinking of Tiffany and Crystal who used to do the 4 handed massages. Not the same. I used to see them both then just Tiffany after they had a falling out. They were using fake names at the time. I actually became friendly with Tiffany after she left the hobby. She has long since retired, remarried, and has a nice career.

Framingham massage parlor part of multi-state trafficking ring, AG says.

FRAMINGHAM. A Union Avenue massage parlor is one of several locations involved in a multi-state human trafficking ring that led to four arrests Tuesday, according to state law enforcement authorities.

[URL]http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/20161214/framingham-massage-parlor-part-of-multi-state-trafficking-ring-ag-says[/URL]

The girls may not even know they are being targeted or watched.

[URL]http://www.wmur.com/article/nashua-police-teams-up-with-mass-departments-to-reduce-prostitution-human-trafficking/9238243[/URL]

Thanks on the heads up on the article.

Funny thing about the headlines and the actual story, they don't relate to the headline at all.

Now, I am not saying that the headlines are false. Just that the article doesn't explain anything about the Nashua police cooperating and coordinating law enforcement activities with Mass. Police departments.

Instead, the article explains that personnel from hotels / motels in the various communities met with FBI and Mass. State Police, who gave a presentation on what to look for to spot prostitution and human trafficking activity. Nothing on joint exercises by the Nashua Police Dept with other police departments. Actually, the article doesn't even mention the Nashua Police Dept in the body of the article. Just pointing out the obvious.

[QUOTE=NewAgain;3341053]The girls may not even know they are being targeted or watched.

[URL]http://www.wmur.com/article/nashua-police-teams-up-with-mass-departments-to-reduce-prostitution-human-trafficking/9238243[/URL][/QUOTE]

Heads up looks like they bust a house up which probable lead to others. Read this article this morning:

[URL]http://www.fox25boston.com/news/fbi-conducting-investigations-in-two-locations-in-quincy/519247368[/URL]

So with all the busts recently it's gotten me thinking. I usually rely on the other review site for info. But how common does everything think it may be for LEO to create fake reviews to get people. I go both ways here. While it would seem smart to do so, would they really go that far and spend that time and energy when they really just want to shut the pimps and traffickers down? Just thinking.

[QUOTE=BillWalk123;3380552]So with all the busts recently it's gotten me thinking. I usually rely on the other review site for info. But how common does everything think it may be for LEO to create fake reviews to get people. I go both ways here. While it would seem smart to do so, would they really go that far and spend that time and energy when they really just want to shut the pimps and traffickers down? Just thinking.[/QUOTE]LEO runs his own bust to grab johns it brings them $$$ Pop a John and they cough up $1,000 Pop a working girl and they get a $250 misdemeanor ticket.

No matter whether your guilty or not the newspaper will have a field day smearing your name. If you are found innocent you'll hear nothing clearing your name.

Will LEO lie to arrest you? You bet your ass they will. They get the newspaper to print the allegations, post your name and picture and it sends ripples of "OH SHIT" down the line.

If your spider senses go up think hard just don't get hard.

We all know that LEO reads Backpage and USASG. If you think for a minute that they don't use these sites to their advantage you really need to wake up.

I think USA is more accurate, because the other site encourages guys to post fake reviews by offering free membership if they post a certain amount of reviews each month.

If you want to be sure the escort is legit if you have membership to the other site see how many reviews that reviewer wrote on other escorts. If you don't have a membership, just google the user name and the site name.

[QUOTE=DoubleDippin;3381001]LEO runs his own bust to grab johns it brings them $$$ Pop a John and they cough up $1,000 Pop a working girl and they get a $250 misdemeanor ticket.

No matter whether your guilty or not the newspaper will have a field day smearing your name. If you are found innocent you'll hear nothing clearing your name.

Will LEO lie to arrest you? You bet your ass they will. They get the newspaper to print the allegations, post your name and picture and it sends ripples of "OH SHIT" down the line.

If your spider senses go up think hard just don't get hard.

We all know that LEO reads Backpage and USASG. If you think for a minute that they don't use these sites to their advantage you really need to wake up.[/QUOTE]These are all very good points. It's pretty much what I said in previous post. I know for a fact LEO monitors to say this I know for a fact LEO monitors this site.

[QUOTE=DoubleDippin;3381001]Will LEO lie to arrest you? You bet your ass they will. [/QUOTE]There are no consequences when LEO lies and makes up charges. It's just more BS you need to defend and by then, you're already guilty in the court of "public opinion" (family, friends).

The thin blue line is the biggest street gang around and they make the rules as they go along.

And just like another post said, there is never a retraction or correction in the paper if / when you're judged "not guilty" in court. Too late for most of us by then anyway.

[QUOTE=DoubleDippin;3381001]We all know that LEO reads Backpage and USASG. If you think for a minute that they don't use these sites to their advantage you really need to wake up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BreakingBad;3381093]These are all very good points. It's pretty much what I said in previous post. I know for a fact LEO monitors to say this I know for a fact LEO monitors this site.[/QUOTE]A few of you guys keep making a big deal about this. So here's mis dos centavos.

1. No they don't, seriously they don't. There's a good reason they don't. They don't because everything that gets posted here is hearsay. You could post a series of photos of yourself holding a sign in one hand that says "I'm paying this chick to suck my cock" while you're holding money in the other. Then have a picture of a chick holding a sign that says "he just paid me to suck his cock" while holding the same money. Then pictures of her sucking your cock. What could a the do with that? Not a fucking thing. All you got to say was "it was a joke" or "somebody photoshopped that" or you could just keep it short and say "fuck you. " Because they can't do anything with it. It's hearsay. If it wasn't hearsay then at least one of the nearly two million posts on this forum would have been used in court at least one fucking time in 17 years. Never has, never will. Can't be used as probable cause, can't be used for anything.

2. If they did read it so what. They already know where the AMPs are, they already know better than any of you guys where the walkers are. All they do all day long is drive around and look at shit. Nothing you guys post here is news to them.

So, if it makes you feel like Tony Montana or something to think that what you do here is dangerous, please feel free, but none of that is true so please stop trying to get everybody else to buy into your fantasies of mortal danger.

LMAO. The paranoia runs deep with some of these guys. Enjoyed reading your response to them.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3382070]A few of you guys keep making a big deal about this. So here's mis dos centavos.

1. No they don't, seriously they don't. There's a good reason they don't. They don't because everything that gets posted here is hearsay. You could post a series of photos of yourself holding a sign in one hand that says "I'm paying this chick to suck my cock" while you're holding money in the other. Then have a picture of a chick holding a sign that says "he just paid me to suck his cock" while holding the same money. Then pictures of her sucking your cock. What could a the do with that? Not a fucking thing. All you got to say was "it was a joke" or "somebody photoshopped that" or you could just keep it short and say "fuck you. " Because they can't do anything with it. It's hearsay. If it wasn't hearsay then at least one of the nearly two million posts on this forum would have been used in court at least one fucking time in 17 years. Never has, never will. Can't be used as probable cause, can't be used for anything.

2. If they did read it so what. They already know where the AMPs are, they already know better than any of you guys where the walkers are. All they do all day long is drive around and look at shit. Nothing you guys post here is news to them.

So, if it makes you feel like Tony Montana or something to think that what you do here is dangerous, please feel free, but none of that is true so please stop trying to get everybody else to buy into your fantasies of mortal danger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;3382070]A few of you guys keep making a big deal about this. So here's mis dos centavos.

1. No they don't, seriously they don't. There's a good reason they don't. They don't because everything that gets posted here is hearsay. You could post a series of photos of yourself holding a sign in one hand that says "I'm paying this chick to suck my cock" while you're holding money in the other. Then have a picture of a chick holding a sign that says "he just paid me to suck his cock" while holding the same money. Then pictures of her sucking your cock. What could a the do with that? Not a fucking thing. All you got to say was "it was a joke" or "somebody photoshopped that" or you could just keep it short and say "fuck you. " Because they can't do anything with it. It's hearsay. If it wasn't hearsay then at least one of the nearly two million posts on this forum would have been used in court at least one fucking time in 17 years. Never has, never will. Can't be used as probable cause, can't be used for anything.

2. If they did read it so what. They already know where the AMPs are, they already know better than any of you guys where the walkers are. All they do all day long is drive around and look at shit. Nothing you guys post here is news to them.

So, if it makes you feel like Tony Montana or something to think that what you do here is dangerous, please feel free, but none of that is true so please stop trying to get everybody else to buy into your fantasies of mortal danger.[/QUOTE]LMAO.

Dead.

Short of them actually physically observing you handing the money to the woman and hearing you saying, "Here is the money you requested in exchange for having sex with me!" then it's circumstantial. Which is why the general rule is to place the money in an unmarked envelope and set it on a table, dresser, or the bathroom vanity. It's also why the higher end girls don't even look at it until after. I was with a provider in April who didn't even touch the envelope until after she'd gone back to the bedroom to get her clothes (well after we'd done the deed and taken a shower together after).

You really hit the nail on the head. I'm paranoid, but some of these folks take it to an entirely new level.

The eagle Tribune reported Friday that they were given a copy of the client list.

If there was more than name & perhaps tel number, you can bet the police would have contacted some of the people on that list early on to see what shakes out.

[QUOTE=Rcranium;3434526]The eagle Tribune reported Friday that they were given a copy of the client list.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Longjblues;3434556]If there was more than name & perhaps tel number, you can bet the police would have contacted some of the people on that list early on to see what shakes out.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I highly doubt they would do anything to the clients. It's just evidence for the court.

Client list. Hmmm. Was I on it? Who am I?