Safe Mongering in Honolulu

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[QUOTE=SureYourRight;2425296]There is literally tons of reading about this topic from both sides (Google).

Never saw anything about condom irritation, it was more about "I've been making xxxx amount per week, but now that I'm xx old guys don't come like they used to / customers find new girls / etc so to keep making xxxx amount, I had to start doing whatever. I guess once you start pulling in 5 k a week it's hard to go back to 1 or 2 just cause you got a little older.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys! Makes sense, for both parties it's all a risk reward situation.

[QUOTE=Harris808;2424866] Thinking about it now, I wonder why she offers BBFS. I know she's not that young, but she still looks good to me and I think she could still get clients without offering BBFS. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shibiko;2425201]Very interesting topic, I wouldn't mind getting a BBFS providers view on this topic. To what extent they will go? They must be wary too? What drives them to be so risky themselves? Is it the $$, irritation from condoms?[/QUOTE]Although over the years a few providers have told me that they don't like sucking on a rubber and/or that sex feels better or more comfortable without a rubber, in my opinion the primary motivation is financial for the overwhelming majority of those providers who choose to offer the BBFS option. Even if a woman is sufficiently desirable to earn a reasonable income as a mandatory-condom provider, she'll almost certainly attract more first-time customers and repeat customers (and thus make more money) if she offers the BBFS option. (Yes, there are some guys who specifically avoid providers who offer BBFS, but I think there are many more who seek BBFS providers.) For some providers who are regarded as less desirable (older, not very attractive, perhaps a personality deficit, etc.), offering the BBFS option may be an important factor in earning even what they would consider a reasonable amount of income. Of course, BBFS is more risky for both provider and customer, but each individual has the freedom to make his or her own risk/benefit analysis. I remember the late, great comedian Sam Kinison getting lots of laughter by shouting during a live show: "[I]Do we like wearing condoms, guys? Hell no![/I]".

[QUOTE=AnalInvaeder;2425339]First time I did DATY at an AMP. I don't have any cold sores around or in my mouth. But since yesterday my throat has had a sore feeling. I thought it was just a cold, but now I'm getting paranoid. Has anyone ever had these symptoms after DATY? I'm also experiencing headaches and some sneezing, no mucus though.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, seems to me you are suffering from nasopharyngitis. This rare disease is often caught during bouts of DATY or DATO with the same sex (tossing salad, as we MD's refer to it). Drink lots of soup, take 2 aspirins and call me in the morning.

You can leave my $50 fee with the mamasan at Tokyo Spa, I'll be there later today.

Doctor Rott Enotto.

[QUOTE=AnalInvaeder;2425339]First time I did DATY at an AMP. I don't have any cold sores around or in my mouth. But since yesterday my throat has had a sore feeling. I thought it was just a cold, but now I'm getting paranoid. Has anyone ever had these symptoms after DATY? I'm also experiencing headaches and some sneezing, no mucus though.[/QUOTE]You're not being paranoid. That's why I always gargle with the mouthwash most of the AMPs provide after if I've DATYed. Then I go home and gargle again (the ones with the germ killing alcohol), maybe a third time if I'm unsure if I killed all those nasty micobes. There is a reason providers sometimes offer only CBJ's. Go see a doctor if it doesn't go away. Better safe than sorry.

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2426193]You're not being paranoid. That's why I always gargle with the mouthwash most of the AMPs provide after if I've DATYed. Then I go home and gargle again (the ones with the germ killing alcohol), maybe a third time if I'm unsure if I killed all those nasty micobes. There is a reason providers sometimes offer only CBJ's. Go see a doctor if it doesn't go away. Better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]Will do brother. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!

[QUOTE=AnalInvaeder;2425339]First time I did DATY at an AMP. I don't have any cold sores around or in my mouth. But since yesterday my throat has had a sore feeling. I thought it was just a cold, but now I'm getting paranoid. Has anyone ever had these symptoms after DATY? I'm also experiencing headaches and some sneezing, no mucus though.[/QUOTE]I love to eat pussy and, as a consequence, I've had a very minor sore throat a few times the day after going down on a girl. But it's always cleared up after a day or two. If your sore throat persists for more than 5 days and is severe, I'd see a doctor. And be truthful with him (Don't be embarrassed; he probably eats pussy, too) as to how you caught the sore throat so that he can provide the proper course of treatment.

[QUOTE=Buster50;2424896]I've had the same thinking as you about having BBFS with girls that are not known for it but found out its just that guys here don't talk about it. I've had BBFS from a bunch of the girls at Empire and thought that my chances of getting anything would be very low due to their age and history of only CFS. Thankfully I didn't "get" anything but did find out that is wasn't uncommon practice for them to provide BBFS. If you are wary about catching anything, just don't do BBFS period![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2426193]You're not being paranoid. That's why I always gargle with the mouthwash most of the AMPs provide after if I've DATYed. Then I go home and gargle again (the ones with the germ killing alcohol), maybe a third time if I'm unsure if I killed all those nasty microbes. There is a reason providers sometimes offer only CBJ's. Go see a doctor if it doesn't go away. Better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]I've done BBFS in Europe at FKKs and other types of brothels that advertise this practice. (Recently, Germany started clamping down on the practice and won't allow places to advertise BBFS anymore. But, it's alive & well if you desire.) I'm not half as worried in Europe because sex between consenting adults is legal and, in most countries, the girls are registered sex workers who receive weekly (I think) medical checks. I've only done it once here in the USA And that was with a regular several years ago. I had really hit all her buttons while DATY and she just pulled me head (big one) up to hers, grabbed the plumbing, and stuck it in. Wow -- what an amazing & passionate session that was!

On the subject of DATY, I always have a travel-sized bottle of Listerine in my car. After a session at an AMP where DATY has occurred, I will use a healthy swig and swish it around for at least a minute as soon as I get back to my car. I do this even if they give me a cup of mouthwash after a session. I don't know about anyone else, but I usually wind up with "razor burn" on my tongue if I DATY on a girl who is shaven. The first swig of real Listerine really gets your attention. At least here in DC, I'm finding that more & more of the Asian girls are starting to shave. Hope things turn out OK for you.

[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2426193]You're not being paranoid. That's why I always gargle with the mouthwash most of the AMPs provide after if I've DATYed. Then I go home and gargle again[/QUOTE]Sometimes, they mix the mouthwash with water and you don't get the strong burn feeling of the alcohol. You can tell when the color of the mouthwash looks light.

[QUOTE=Blake123;2426595]I love to eat pussy and, as a consequence, I've had a very minor sore throat a few times the day after going down on a girl.[/QUOTE]I once had a bad case of strep throat from a provider at an AMP on the second floor at Sheridan St. So, that was a long time ago. I haven't encounter a problem since I always ask for a mouthwash.
I didn't ask the doctor if I got it from doing that.

[QUOTE=AnalInvaeder;2425339]First time I did DATY at an AMP. I don't have any cold sores around or in my mouth. But since yesterday my throat has had a sore feeling. I thought it was just a cold, but now I'm getting paranoid. Has anyone ever had these symptoms after DATY? I'm also experiencing headaches and some sneezing, no mucus though.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I woke up and saw a small white bump on my tonsil. I went in to see a physician, asked him about HSV. He said that I most likely just have a cold, and the tonsils just got inflamed. Tested for strep, but not HSV.

He doubted the HSV because I didn't have anything around, or inside my mouth other than that small white bump.

Looks like I'm still safe, but I still have to beat this cold.

Safe mongering fellas.

The girls at mps aren't stupid. They are not crack hoes. I got to think they get tested at least semi regular. I'm sure they don't want to catch anything either.

[QUOTE=Max#01;2426629]I've done BBFS in Europe at FKKs and other types of brothels that advertise this practice. (Recently, Germany started clamping down on the practice and won't allow places to advertise BBFS anymore. But, it's alive & well if you desire.) I'm not half as worried in Europe because sex between consenting adults is legal and, in most countries, the girls are registered sex workers who receive weekly (I think) medical checks. I've only done it once here in the USA And that was with a regular several years ago. I had really hit all her buttons while DATY and she just pulled me head (big one) up to hers, grabbed the plumbing, and stuck it in. Wow -- what an amazing & passionate session that was!

On the subject of DATY, I always have a travel-sized bottle of Listerine in my car. After a session at an AMP where DATY has occurred, I will use a healthy swig and swish it around for at least a minute as soon as I get back to my car. I do this even if they give me a cup of mouthwash after a session. I don't know about anyone else, but I usually wind up with "razor burn" on my tongue if I DATY on a girl who is shaven. The first swig of real Listerine really gets your attention. At least here in DC, I'm finding that more & more of the Asian girls are starting to shave. Hope things turn out OK for you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuvBigRax;2429259]The girls at mps aren't stupid. They are not crack hoes. I got to think they get tested at least semi regular. I'm sure they don't want to catch anything either.[/QUOTE]Only problem is testing finds out what a provider caught after she caught it. Doesn't prevent an infection. Even the porn industry, with mandatory testing, has had HIV outbreaks. Whatever kittles in someone's cum deposited BB is in a pussy to be shared for the entire day. May not happen here, but all it takes is one mentally sick HIV+ dude with a death wish for everyone.

I realize that I have a blind spot for girls who only provide all covered service. I may be missing something, so let's discuss who the best ones are. I want to try some out.

I can only think of 4 all covered girls who I've had that were really good. Joy from Nirvana (and Golden Queen), Ivy from Sakura Rycoft, Julie from Ginza (or Ichiban or Mayflower) and Million from Sakura.

Who are the best all covered girls right now?

I am thinking Chanel, Nani, and Jio have good reviews. Who else is there?

[QUOTE=Goser;2430792]I realize that I have a blind spot for girls who only provide all covered service. I may be missing something, so let's discuss who the best ones are. I want to try some out.

I can only think of 4 all covered girls who I've had that were really good. Joy from Nirvana (and Golden Queen), Ivy from Sakura Rycoft, Julie from Ginza (or Ichiban or Mayflower) and Million from Sakura.

Who are the best all covered girls right now?

I am thinking Chanel, Nani, and Jio have good reviews. Who else is there?[/QUOTE]Hana / Miki was at Tokyo and then she moved to another AMP, then she left. Hope she comes back. Also I always loved seeing Kelly of Ichiban / Golden Spa. She left to and I don't know when she's coming back. Maybe they only seeing regulars and favorites off site? I recently enjoyed Hawa at Top Spa, and Fun a few months ago. They are all covered FS. Out of all of them I'd rank miki, fun, then kelly, and hawa in that order.

Had my very first mongering experience last week with a very hot provider from rejuve, I believe she is on vacation now. Anyway, after countless months browsing the forums, I finally decided to take the plunge while my SO was out of town. Experience was awesome, provider was awesome like the countless reviews she's been getting. However this beings first rodeo, I now feel overly paranoid about catching an STD. Don't know how likely it is, don't know how clean these girls are, or how clean their clientele are. I would presume they bang on average 6-10 guys a day, times that by a lot and they probably banged upwards of a few thousand men in their career, multiplied by the number of other providers their clients have banged in their mongering career. So this number of shared germs, bacteria and disease suddenly becomes exponential. So let me just ask you fellow senior mongers out there. I banged a hottie who's name rhymes with gallas. Banging was covered, but she let me pop in her mouth BBBJ cim. Now I'm overtly paranoid I have some kind of disease for sure, and I'm just here looking for reassurance I guess. But what would be your guys professional opinion be. I would hope everyone who participates in this recreational activity keeps it safe by getting routinely tested and if found to have caught something, they would be so courteous as to bench themselves until their problems clear up?

Thanks,

Overly paranoid localboy.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy42;2488485]Had my very first mongering experience last week with a very hot provider from rejuve, I believe she is on vacation now. Anyway, after countless months browsing the forums, I finally decided to take the plunge while my SO was out of town. Experience was awesome, provider was awesome like the countless reviews she's been getting. However this beings first rodeo, I now feel overly paranoid about catching an STD. Don't know how likely it is, don't know how clean these girls are, or how clean their clientele are. I would presume they bang on average 6-10 guys a day, times that by a lot and they probably banged upwards of a few thousand men in their career, multiplied by the number of other providers their clients have banged in their mongering career. So this number of shared germs, bacteria and disease suddenly becomes exponential. So let me just ask you fellow senior mongers out there. I banged a hottie who's name rhymes with gallas. Banging was covered, but she let me pop in her mouth BBBJ cim. Now I'm overtly paranoid I have some kind of disease for sure, and I'm just here looking for reassurance I guess. But what would be your guys professional opinion be. I would hope everyone who participates in this recreational activity keeps it safe by getting routinely tested and if found to have caught something, they would be so courteous as to bench themselves until their problems clear up?

Thanks,

Overly paranoid localboy.[/QUOTE]Go see Doc and take the test to make sure you're clean. Then if I was you I'd consider not trying again if seeing a provider once has you this paranoid. With the fun that comes with mongering, there is a lot of inherent dangers involved as well.

[QUOTE=LocalBoy42;2488485]Had my very first mongering experience last week with a very hot provider from rejuve, I believe she is on vacation now. Anyway, after countless months browsing the forums, I finally decided to take the plunge while my SO was out of town. Experience was awesome, provider was awesome like the countless reviews she's been getting. However this beings first rodeo, I now feel overly paranoid about catching an STD. Don't know how likely it is, don't know how clean these girls are, or how clean their clientele are. I would presume they bang on average 6-10 guys a day, times that by a lot and they probably banged upwards of a few thousand men in their career, multiplied by the number of other providers their clients have banged in their mongering career. So this number of shared germs, bacteria and disease suddenly becomes exponential. So let me just ask you fellow senior mongers out there. I banged a hottie who's name rhymes with gallas. Banging was covered, but she let me pop in her mouth BBBJ cim. Now I'm overtly paranoid I have some kind of disease for sure, and I'm just here looking for reassurance I guess. But what would be your guys professional opinion be. I would hope everyone who participates in this recreational activity keeps it safe by getting routinely tested and if found to have caught something, they would be so courteous as to bench themselves until their problems clear up?

Thanks,

Overly paranoid localboy.[/QUOTE]Don't take this personally but this is the wrong hobby if you don't think you can or will catch some type of std or other. Many std's stay dormant and.

Show up later?

See a doc on a regular basis and check yo shit every day if you continue to get back on the horse and rodeo shows?

[QUOTE=AnalInvaeder;2428590]Yesterday I woke up and saw a small white bump on my tonsil. I went in to see a day. ician, asked him about HSV. He said that I most likely just have a cold, and the tonsils just got inflamed. Tested for strep, but not HSV.

He doubted the HSV because I didn't have anything around, or inside my mouth other than that small white bump.

Looks like I'm still safe, but I still have to beat this cold.

Safe mongering fellas.[/QUOTE]I was told be a nurse at the DHC that he has never seen a case of std transmitted from a woman to a man via daty. He said mouths are acidic and pussies are alkaline so germs that can survive in pussies cannot survive in mouths.

[QUOTE=Ingwa;2488877]I was told be a nurse at the DHC that he has never seen a case of std transmitted from a woman to a man via daty. He said mouths are acidic and pussies are alkaline so germs that can survive in pussies cannot survive in mouths.[/QUOTE]I've received questionable 'information' from DHHC "counselors". Guys are shame to admit what they do so that would skew his information based on walk-in cases.

There are numerous sources that confirm my beliefs; here is one:

[URL]http://brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/sexually_transmitted_infections/oral_sex_&_STIs.php[/URL]

I chose this one because of its layout and how it presents the material. Some may prefer other references. Btw, I found it interesting that "Trich" can survive on bedsheets.

IMHO, I takes far more than a pH differential to kill such infectious microorganisms. The body's natural defenses can contend with only so much.

[QUOTE=HMobius;2489494]I've received questionable 'information' from DHHC "counselors". Guys are shame to admit what they do so that would skew his information based on walk-in cases.

There are numerous sources that confirm my beliefs; here is one:

[URL]http://brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/sexually_transmitted_infections/oral_sex_&_STIs.php[/URL]

I chose this one because of its layout and how it presents the material. Some may prefer other references. Btw, I found it interesting that "Trich" can survive on bedsheets.

IMHO, I takes far more than a pH differential to kill such infectious microorganisms. The body's natural defenses can contend with only so much.[/QUOTE]Good information Bro!!

[QUOTE=HMobius;2489494]I've received questionable 'information' from DHHC "counselors". Guys are shame to admit what they do so that would skew his information based on walk-in cases.

There are numerous sources that confirm my beliefs; here is one:

[URL]http://brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/sexually_transmitted_infections/oral_sex_&_STIs.php[/URL]

I chose this one because of its layout and how it presents the material. Some may prefer other references. Btw, I found it interesting that "Trich" can survive on bedsheets.

IMHO, I takes far more than a pH differential to kill such infectious microorganisms. The body's natural defenses can contend with only so much.[/QUOTE]There you go. In the internet age, information like this is at our finger tips.

When people ask "Is this hobby safe?" I want to reply "Take the safest, most carefree, responsible hobby you can possibly imagine. Now fix that thought in your head and dwell on it until you feel warm fuzzies. Feeling safe? Ok, great! Now here's the bad news, mongering is the opposite. Educate yourself, and good luck. ".

For anyone in this hobby, it really is only a matter of time before you are exposed to something. The chances that you hit the jackpot on your very first go around? Low. But it happens. Take time to understand the risks you are taking, and never rely on the guy before you to be 'responsible'. I know if I catch something, I gotta own that. And in less than 3 years of mongering, I contracted my first STI, a case of Gonorrhea last fall. Unpleasant as fuck. Fortunately, it was easily cured with antibiotics. After that experience, I am even more cautious about BBFS. The only thing I can control is myself. And yeah, I get tested regularly.

[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2489602]There you go. In the internet age, information like this is at our finger tips.

When people ask "Is this hobby safe?" I want to reply "Take the safest, most carefree, responsible hobby you can possibly imagine. Now fix that thought in your head and dwell on it until you feel warm fuzzies. Feeling safe? Ok, great! Now here's the bad news, mongering is the opposite. Educate yourself, and good luck. ".

For anyone in this hobby, it really is only a matter of time before you are exposed to something. The chances that you hit the jackpot on your very first go around? Low. But it happens. Take time to understand the risks you are taking, and never rely on the guy before you to be 'responsible'. I know if I catch something, I gotta own that. And in less than 3 years of mongering, I contracted my first STI, a case of Gonorrhea last fall. Unpleasant as fuck. Fortunately, it was easily cured with antibiotics. After that experience, I am even more cautious about BBFS. The only thing I can control is myself. And yeah, I get tested regularly.[/QUOTE]How long after should you test? Like if like today was your last day of mongering, would you wait a couple months to test to assure that you are clean? Or longer?

[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2489602]There you go. In the internet age, information like this is at our finger tips.

When people ask "Is this hobby safe?" I want to reply "Take the safest, most carefree, responsible hobby you can possibly imagine. Now fix that thought in your head and dwell on it until you feel warm fuzzies. Feeling safe? Ok, great! Now here's the bad news, mongering is the opposite. Educate yourself, and good luck. ".

For anyone in this hobby, it really is only a matter of time before you are exposed to something. The chances that you hit the jackpot on your very first go around? Low. But it happens. Take time to understand the risks you are taking, and never rely on the guy before you to be 'responsible'. I know if I catch something, I gotta own that. And in less than 3 years of mongering, I contracted my first STI, a case of Gonorrhea last fall. Unpleasant as fuck. Fortunately, it was easily cured with antibiotics. After that experience, I am even more cautious about BBFS. The only thing I can control is myself. And yeah, I get tested regularly.[/QUOTE]Where do you go to get tested? Where's the best place?

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2489722]Where do you go to get tested? Where's the best place?[/QUOTE][URL]http://health.hawaii.gov/std-aids/where-to-get-tested/oahu-testing-resources/[/URL]

[QUOTE=YoMama808;2489663]How long after should you test? Like if like today was your last day of mongering, would you wait a couple months to test to assure that you are clean? Or longer?[/QUOTE]It depends upon the specific STD. Each of the STDs has a "testing window". On the one hand, you may not want to be tested before the test will probably detect the STD, but on the other hand, you don't want to wait longer than necessary to discover that you're infected. The testing windows can be significantly different. For example, a urine test for chlamydia may possibly detect it within the first week after infection, and will most likely detect it within two weeks of infection, but a blood test for hepatitis C may possibly detect it within four to five weeks after infection, and will most likely detect it within six to ten weeks after infection. So, as with many medical matters, it's best to consult with your doctor.

[QUOTE=YoMama808;2489663]How long after should you test? Like if like today was your last day of mongering, would you wait a couple months to test to assure that you are clean? Or longer?[/QUOTE]Many of the bacterial STDs have an incubation period before they start producing symptoms. And for some guys & girls things like Chlamydia may be asymptomatic (no detectable symptoms). The longest you have to wait is for a standard rapid HIV antibody test. While many people will produce enough antibodies for it to be detectable within the first month after infection, it can take up to 3 months to be detectable. It's called the window period. After possible exposure you are considered to be in the 'window period' for 3 months. After 3 months, if your test comes back clean, there is a 99.9%+ chance you are clean.

There are so many resources out there for STDs these days. Here is handy chart that talks about the waiting period before getting tested for most of the major STDs:

[URL]https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/how-soon-get-tested-for-stds-unprotected-sex/[/URL]

Took 2 seconds to google the search phrase "when to get tested for stds".

[QUOTE=Redneck1;2489924]It depends upon the specific STD. Each of the STDs has a "testing window". On the one hand, you may not want to be tested before the test will probably detect the STD, but on the other hand, you don't want to wait longer than necessary to discover that you're infected. The testing windows can be significantly different. For example, a urine test for chlamydia may possibly detect it within the first week after infection, and will most likely detect it within two weeks of infection, but a blood test for hepatitis C may possibly detect it within four to five weeks after infection, and will most likely detect it within six to ten weeks after infection. So, as with many medical matters, it's best to consult with your doctor.[/QUOTE]Red, we should teach a class for mongers. "Common sense for the horny monger. " Lesson number one: Learn how to use a google search engine, specifically verifying information by cross referencing. Gov and. Edu websites. The Center for Disease Control and Prevention is great resource for current treatment information. But I understand the scientific articles can be dense reading.

[url]http://www.cdc.gov/std/[/url]

[QUOTE=YoMama808;2489663]How long after should you test? Like if like today was your last day of mongering, would you wait a couple months to test to assure that you are clean? Or longer?[/QUOTE]Just as Redneck said.

I would add that for HIV the minimum wait is 3 months; 6 months for sure. If you test negative sooner than 3 months, they will tell you to retest or they might decline testing until more time has passed depending on what you tell them about your activities. If you test negative at 6 months since your last contact, you would be considered truly negative with virtually (because no test is perfect) 100% certainty.

According to this, the reliability rating of the "rapid test" like the one in DHHC's website is only "satisfactory", and not "high":

[url]http://www.avert.org/hiv-testing.htm[/url]

This is where honesty on your part comes in. They only know what you tell them, that's all they have to go by. The old saying "If you lie, you're only lying to yourself" applies.

The other thing is that syphilis has 3 stages; the tertiary stage can be fatal or lead to insanity, so don't wait until it's too late. The first 2 stages pass on their own, and then there's a period with no symptoms that precedes Stage 3.

I think I saw a home HIV test at CVS. Are these test done completely at home and what is the reliability? I believe it was about $99.

You brothers who have unprotected sex at the AMPs on a more or less regular basis, do you hold to a routine where you go get tested for stds periodically? Like if you go to the dentist twice a year for routine teeth cleaning and dental exam, how often do you figure you need to get tested for stds? I've been mongering for several years and never once got the tests done. But thanks to the suggestions and ideas from you guys on this thread, I just went and had my first std tests in my life today. I don't know the results yet and I'm told it can take as long as a week or two before all the results from the lab work are in.

[QUOTE=Jetli316;2492222]I think I saw a home HIV test at CVS. Are these test done completely at home and what is the reliability? I believe it was about $99.[/QUOTE]The Avert link below talks a little about it. If you wind up needing a confirmatory test at the clinic, better to have saved the $99.

If it uses the p24 antigen test method and you have been infected for long enough, the test will not work. The site discusses this.

Probably best to ask the CVS pharmacist, either where it's convenient for you or at a location you never go to.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2493090]You brothers who have unprotected sex at the AMPs on a more or less regular basis, do you hold to a routine where you go get tested for stds periodically? Like if you go to the dentist twice a year for routine teeth cleaning and dental exam, how often do you figure you need to get tested for stds? I've been mongering for several years and never once got the tests done. But thanks to the suggestions and ideas from you guys on this thread, I just went and had my first std tests in my life today. I don't know the results yet and I'm told it can take as long as a week or two before all the results from the lab work are in.[/QUOTE]Hey Cosmic Kid, while I very seldom do BBFS anymore, I get tested for HIV every 3 months. Free at the life foundation. I try to get full testing done at least once annually, including testing for herpes and syphilis. I generally stop by DHC every 6 months or so for urine sample to check on common bacterial STDs. Or course if I ever get symptoms I would go get tested asap.

I don't mean to use you as an example in a bad way, but think about it. For every guy with the courage to admit that they don't really take time to get tested, there are dozens of guys who read and never post who don't have a clue about their STD status unless exhibiting clear symptoms. Something to think about, always know the risks.

[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2494277]Hey Cosmic Kid, while I very seldom do BBFS anymore, I get tested for HIV every 3 months. Free at the life foundation. I try to get full testing done at least once annually, including testing for herpes and syphilis. I generally stop by DHC every 6 months or so for urine sample to check on common bacterial STDs. Or course if I ever get symptoms I would go get tested asap.

I don't mean to use you as an example in a bad way, but think about it. For every guy with the courage to admit that they don't really take time to get tested, there are dozens of guys who read and never post who don't have a clue about their STD status unless exhibiting clear symptoms. Something to think about, always know the risks.[/QUOTE]I totally agree, LS. I've had my head buried in the sand regarding this situation for far too long. So, from now, I plan to get tested on a regular basis. I've got a good insurance plan and just realized I can use it to do this right. Don't need to go over to DHC. I live country and DHC is too far and plus I just found out I can get tested at a local clinic in my area. Having the whole workup with urine sample plus five blood samples.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2493090]You brothers who have unprotected sex at the AMPs on a more or less regular basis, do you hold to a routine where you go get tested for stds periodically? Like if you go to the dentist twice a year for routine teeth cleaning and dental exam, how often do you figure you need to get tested for stds? I've been mongering for several years and never once got the tests done. But thanks to the suggestions and ideas from you guys on this thread, I just went and had my first std tests in my life today. I don't know the results yet and I'm told it can take as long as a week or two before all the results from the lab work are in.[/QUOTE]Hey CK. I get tested every 3 months for the standard std's. I don't do BBFS with girls I don't know well. I also ask the girl how often they test themselves. All the one's I see test regularly. So, in a way I try to minimize the risks. But there's always risks, even from oral sex and kissing too. So I just try to be as safe as reasonable. I also only see AMP girls. No escorts etc.

[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;2494277]Hey Cosmic Kid, while I very seldom do BBFS anymore, I get tested for HIV every 3 months. Free at the life foundation. I try to get full testing done at least once annually, including testing for herpes and syphilis. I generally stop by DHC every 6 months or so for urine sample to check on common bacterial STDs. Or course if I ever get symptoms I would go get tested asap.

I don't mean to use you as an example in a bad way, but think about it. For every guy with the courage to admit that they don't really take time to get tested, there are dozens of guys who read and never post who don't have a clue about their STD status unless exhibiting clear symptoms. Something to think about, always know the risks.[/QUOTE]So the following locations do these tests for FREE:

Diamond Head Clinic: Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Syphilis (once per year), HIV. Pros: They test for everything including syphilis, less number of people, not likely to run into someone unless they are also testing for STDs. Cons: If you're not first in line the wait can be long, you need to provide personal information (I'd).

Waikiki Health Clinic: Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, HIV, Hepatitis see. Pros: Short wait time because you make appointment in advance, they test most STDs, free parking. Cons: Its a real clinic so regular patients are also waiting for appointments, you need to provide personal information including insurance (although the STD testing is free an not charged to your insurance).

Life Foundation: HIV, Hepatitis see. Pros: Fast walk-in service with little wait time, free parking. Cons: They only test for HIV and Hep see.

There might be others that I don't know about. If any of you guys know of a clinic that does free testing then post up.

Get tested people. Its free.

[QUOTE]I also ask the girl how often they test themselves. All the one's I see test regularly.[/QUOTE]Good idea in theory, but personally, I wouldn't place much reliance upon providers answering that question truthfully. Why? A combination of three reasons: (1) often providers are untruthful about all sorts of matters and many become proficient at deception; (2) many providers know the "acceptable" answer to that question; and (3) there's definitely a financial incentive for providers to give customers an "acceptable" answer to that question, whether or not it's the true answer.

[QUOTE=Member#2322;2497095]Waikiki Health Clinic: Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, HIV, Hepatitis see. Pros: Short wait time because you make appointment in advance, they test most STDs, free parking. Cons: Its a real clinic so regular patients are also waiting for appointments, you need to provide personal information including insurance (although the STD testing is free an not charged to your insurance).[/QUOTE]I don't know if it's still this way, but years ago I went there and it was also a training place for new doctors. I was waiting in the room and the person who was going to do the test asked if I would mind if they came to observe. A bunch of guys poked their heads in the door like peeping toms; I immediately declined because I didn't like the way they presented themselves, thinking "This ain't no peep show".

On another note, I agree with Redneck about girls' claims about getting tested; they are not even truthful about where they've worked. There are 40 and 50+ women with years-long histories of taking CIP who will claim it's their first job, or "Neva fock no condom befo".

Thanks, guys, for the advice, suggestions, encouragement. After years of AMPing, I finally had my very first STD tests ever, way overdue, but results for all diseases came back all-negative, all-clear. So worth getting this done as it removes a black cloud of worry that was hanging out in the back of my mind!

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;2503161]Thanks, guys, for the advice, suggestions, encouragement. After years of AMPing, I finally had my very first STD tests ever, way overdue, but results for all diseases came back all-negative, all-clear. So worth getting this done as it removes a black cloud of worry that was hanging out in the back of my mind![/QUOTE]That's good that it came negative. Don't worry too much about it if you get it or not. Medicine is quite good in this day an age so it won't take long till someone found a cure for it.