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[QUOTE=SirBishop;5806565]Honestly I've blocked shills, bookers, mongers spreading mis-information and irritating people. My father advised and I follow, "Don't get in an argument with a fool".[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a saying one of my best friends told me many years ago (he probably got it from some comedian at the time).
He told me to remember that the average person is an idiot. Which means that half the people out there are even worse.
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5806186]Went to see Cici in SV before the cops burst through the door and bloodied up the customer and what Mina told me is now they have put in cameras and how a gate with a lock at the front.
I am a fan of VIP 2 due to it's location and much safer setup I find it comical that some folks on this site like to think of it as some exclusive club.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, gentlemen. You're both highly respected members on this forum and personally I found nothing expressed from "The DudeInSD" other than one's own personal opinion and experiences, BUT.
I must say that the white knights for a certain popular spa is readily apparent. IMO this spa doesn't need defense for what I see as the slightest of "jabs" as it only takes away from the legitimacy of the talent and service they provide.
Now for the few outright lies and misperceptions against any spa, I'll call that BS out hard and in a heart beat!
[QUOTE=PoonTangJohnny;5806438]In light of the continued negativity being reported here towards a couple of the AMPs (VIP), I thought it would be interesting taking a trip back down memory lane & put 2+2 together, and address what is really going on here. Shills and their agenda's. It hasn't stopped.[/QUOTE]Guilty, I am a shill for Middle East Sally, SDAG, FEC, countless massage parlor reports.
You got me hahahahaha.
I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I'm not ignoring your mention of any police presence at any spa, rather not bringing more attention to it. Unless a place has been literally raided, there is no sense in speculating. I used to have an old Crown Vic, an actual "used" police spec municipal vehicle I bought at auction that looked exactly like an unmarked with a spotlight. My buddies and I sure had some fun with that car. Just saying.
Fear mongering the faint of heart simply annoys me, but doesn't dissuade me from the risks I take to enjoy some of these lovely working girls and any risks these girls allow me to partake. Something tells me you're of the same mindset.
I enjoy your reports on USASexGuide and RubMaps!
[QUOTE=CuriousJo8;5806349]The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PoonTangJohnny;5806438]In light of the continued negativity being reported here towards a couple of the AMPs (VIP), I thought it would be interesting taking a trip back down memory lane & put 2+2 together, and address what is really going on here. Shills and their agenda's. It hasn't stopped.[/QUOTE]These are non-Cris reviews LMAO. Because I am her shill. Ummm whatever.
Keep in mind this is only going back to 2021, I have 90+ reviews on TER, 1 of which is Cris LOL.
1. Middle East Sally.
2. SDAG--the best Korean agency in town-Ash.
Kiko.
Arisa.
Sema.
Susette.
Cuban Ginger man her BBBJ is mind blwoing.
Binna.
Mannie.
10. FEC-Gia.
Seya.
Ace.
Sia.
14. Sandra 99 Nira and Emily.
16. Massage Parlor reviews-Amy Happy Foot.
Amy Leisure.
Apple Diamond in Hilcrest.
Japanese Mia in Hilcrest Mimi traveler.
Ava You spa in LG.
Serenity Viet girl don't remember name, 1 of few negative reviews I ever do.
Erma Yoyo.
Cici VIP in SV.
Golden A Summer.
Rainbow Lucy.
Smile spa Angela / Angel.
Fountain Lisa.
Unique on EBC Thai girl named May.
You spa Lulu in LG.
There's 29 reviews and add that to the 90+ on TER and you get a shit ton.
Shill? Ummmm yeah OK. 120 girls I shill.
Cheers.
I've been accused of the same, because I rarely right any negative reviews. First, I'm experienced enough to know how to avoid disasters. Second, there are enough negative Charlie's out there to vent their inexperience.
Last shill I was accused of was Michelle at 7 Spa and I predicted there would be plenty more shilling going about her, then there was. Vindicated!
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5807180]These are non-Cris reviews LMAO. Because I am her shill. Ummm whatever.
Keep in mind this is only going back to 2021, I have 90+ reviews on TER, 1 of which is Cris LOL….
…There's 29 reviews and add that to the 90+ on TER and you get a shit ton.
Shill? Ummmm yeah OK. 120 girls I shill.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SirBishop;5806565]Honestly I've blocked shills, bookers, mongers spreading mis-information and irritating people. My father advised and I follow, "Don't get in an argument with a fool".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DragonWolf;5806581]Reminds me of a saying one of my best friends told me many years ago (he probably got it from some comedian at the time).
He told me to remember that the average person is an idiot. Which means that half the people out there are even worse.[/QUOTE]I cannot agree with you guys more. I posted / cited what were previously said / jabs by the person about only 2 well reviewed spas. Readers / mongers here have the information so they can use them how they want. The question is why take jabs at spas, when reviewing one of your favorites? Some of the posts weren't even reviews of any visits with providers, just words to discourage people to not visit certain spas. I think many already know the agenda / purpose of those posts.
[QUOTE=CuriousJo8;5806349]The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.[/QUOTE]CuriousJo8, I couldn't agree with you more. There are mongers on here (I can count in less than one hand) that will make 108 and VIP a target of their negative posts to promote some of the spas you've mentioned.
Promote your favorite spas, why say anything bad at all about the others unless the SERVICE you received sucks.
I saw your post back in June (?) and definitely made a mental note. But unlike some who may not like that spa may keep repeating it to discourage people from going there.
Damn.
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[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5807275]Promote your favorite spas, why say anything bad at all about the others unless the SERVICE you received sucks.[/QUOTE]Why you ask, do these few member's you mentioned (who in reality could be 1 person with multiple accounts?) continue their negative attack campaign against one specific AMP'?
Because they know, that there isn't a single AMP in all of San Diego who can compete with the level of service and girls that VIP is providing. Nobody. So their last resort are these continual nasty smear and fear tactics.
[QUOTE=CduBonusG;5807322]Damn.Any other good sites to find independent massage providers listings?[/QUOTE][URL]https://sandiego.rubmd.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Ryan1979;5807229]I've been accused of the same, because I rarely right any negative reviews. First, I'm experienced enough to know how to avoid disasters. Second, there are enough negative Charlie's out there to vent their inexperience.
Last shill I was accused of was Michelle at 7 Spa and I predicted there would be plenty more shilling going about her, then there was. Vindicated![/QUOTE]Yes agree 100% with you Ryan. You are an excellent contributor to many websites out there and I for one appreciate it. I think in my 120 reviews I've only left 3 that were negative in regards to the girl. I am not talking about shady neighborhoods are places where I feel unsafe. I'm simply stating the girl specifically. The Vietnamese girl at serenity and Yo-Yo at Erma and Thai Emily.
These girls work really hard for their money so I hate to bash them when they are already struggling. I will admit 100% that there has been about 5 or 6 girls that Cris brought in that she did not know that I did not like their service. I did not bash them because I knew they were going to be gone in 5 days anyway, because Cris does not put up with stuff like that and will not allow them to stay there 10 days or 2 weeks if they have a bad attitude or bad service.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=PoonTangJohnny;5807354]Why you ask, do these few member's you mentioned (who in reality could be 1 person with multiple accounts?) continue their negative attack campaign against one specific AMP'?
Because they know, that there isn't a single AMP in all of San Diego who can compete with the level of service and girls that VIP is providing. Nobody. So their last resort are these continual nasty smear and fear tactics.[/QUOTE]But we really.
Appreciate all three of your reviews, we are waiting with bated breath for your next great review on.
Welcome to the big leagues kid and welcome to the board by the way with all of your 22 post and 3 reviews LOL.
The funniest thing that just dawned on me is that you have a total of 3 reviews and they're all for the same shop. And you want to call me a shill? I have 120 freaking reviews as listed. Who is the shill? Lmao.
Keep up the good work, can't wait for your next educated response.
To each their own. We just have to take every review with a grain of salt and be aware of our own experience with the spa. I appreciate everyone’s reviews.
Wish I could add the Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif here.
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5806042]Since you responded to my post I'll take that as an invitation for me to respond back.
Are you really a fan because I can recall most of your posts about VIP has been more jabs about them rather than recommendations to go visit their establishments.
You did wrote a positive review about VIP SV once on 12/10/21 (post # 16283) after you saw CiCi. You said your experience was crazy awesome and said other spas need to raise their game.
After that review its been all jabs about VIP (and you also mentioned 108 in this post) being unsafe, they need cameras, there's no defense on the doors (post #135 on 12/19/21).
You said you're a fan of VIP2, have you really been there? On 1/1/22 post #16691 you asked for the VIP2 location.
Maybe you weren't given the address to VIP2 and/or was never invited so on 1/3/22 post #16740 you mock people posting about VIP2 saying it's not some exclusive club.
On 1/4/22 post # 151 you again posted something about talking to a cop friend, VIP license check and that if people visit VIP they are at risk.
On 1/13/22 post #16867 you mock VIP2 again and said it's comical that people needing an invite that it's not an exclusive club.
What fan would posts so many negative things about a place they enjoy going to. So it makes me wonder, Are you really a fan? Have you actually been to VIP2 exclusive club?
In this post you say you love MiMi at 108. Is this the same MiMi you say is greedy like in post # 16134 on 12/2/21? You talked about 108 being super risky with the setup in the business building, they are setting up to get busted, no bolt on doors, no password like Pine. That you were out!
Are you really now a fan of VIP and 108?
Again, we all have our favorite AMPs, independents, AAMPs, etc. Write your reviews for your favorite providers, but don't take jabs at places without a personal experience that you can share.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CuriousJo8;5806349]The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Flanders in a while or dropped by. But I could see other reasons for popo to be there. But always a good idea to check around. Maybe one of the other business near Flanders filed a complaint as they have assigned parking spots and maybe a monger took one of them?
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5807472]But we really.
Appreciate all three of your reviews, we are waiting with bated breath for your next great review on.
Welcome to the big leagues kid and welcome to the board by the way with all of your 22 post and 3 reviews LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
It's interesting how you deflected responding to all the senior member's who called you out in the past. Perhaps you may have missed my post, where I quoted several of the reputable senior member's here? You may want to read or re-read their comments where they torched you and respond to them as well. It's very clear how these senior member's (GDAloha, Baller55, SDJaziKing, Sir Bishop, Rolf Torren, Waylay, Trusty Harilip) feel in regards to your obvious agenda here. These highly respected member's called you out for doing this exact same thing (shilling) about a year ago, yet here you are, continuing your shill agenda. The problem is, you're not very good at it.
I am new here but I'm not new to this hobby. I've been following this place for about 2 years now. All of the hoopla surrounding VIP brought me out of my shell. Up until my experiences at VIP, I've never had experiences anything close to what they've been provided me. Personally, there is no need for me to go anywhere else now. I'm sorry if I may have offended you and struck a nerve for posting what I feel the truth to be. It isn't personal. Happy mongering.
Please, read these again, then get back to me.
[QUOTE=GdAloha;5112614]I reached out to Cris about her friend and she was unwilling to provide pictures or info about this Kelly. Just kept asking me when I would like to come. I appreciate all your input over the years SD and our pms, but I don't think Cris and her friends provide the same service to most as they might to you. I've visited Cris and figured it would be fine with her giving info about new girl, but she was reluctant for some reason. She'll post it in an ad but not give out to former clients? Was interested in seeing her, but Cris has a lot to learn in this business if she plans to stay around.
I do find it comical though that your Asian guess of "26 years old, looks really young. 5'2" and 105 lbs" is 'exactly' what Cris puts in the add for Kelly. Ha.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SDJaziKing;5113160]So I checked Cris out, given from the review that she provides FS upgrade and I have to say, I honestly still don't even know if I fucked "Cris" or not. Txted her number on RR, she txted me back fairly quickly and I showed up on her incall in no time. When the door was opened, there was a lady who doesn't resemble anything from the pictures.
- She looked way taller; Probably 5'7 or taller. Doesn't look attractive, but keeping the mask on helped me enough to get distracted.
- Not so great in English.
- Handed her 140 for an hr and she told me to undress.
- Apparently there was another girl in the apartment since she was talking to someone else while I was getting undressed. (Perhaps "real" Cris?
- Before I was done undressing, she just walked in and gave me a big smile; proceeded to get on her knees and began sucking my dick (BBBJ) for good 5 minutes. Honestly, her BBBJ was pretty great though.
- She has multiple tattoos on her, especially on the left side.
- Then proceeded on putting covers then we began fucking in multiple positions. Mish, Doggy, standing doggy, CG, RCG.
- After some doggy, she was kinda insisting taking off the cover and just BBFS her, but her hemorrhoid was so bad, I thought that shit was a wart for a sec. So I kept the rubber on just in case. Just a little warning.
- Popped in the bag after 15 minute of non-stop fucking..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GdAloha;5113301]Lastly, I think a majority of people on this board have caught on to your ways and are tired of you posting about cris and her friends. Please feel free to start your own thread on the topic. I'm not sure where your attacks on me are coming from, but all I pointed out was somehow you had the exact details or in what you said was your Asian guess, as the post Cris put up.
Please fellow mongers, chime in on the topic![/QUOTE][QUOTE=TrustyHairlip;5113340]I have commented a couple times on how the dude is schilling for this booker Cris and is the only one posting reviews of the girls here. It seems really sketchy, so I am not going to ever visit.
I will stick with SDAG and FEC and Sandra99 for now.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Baller55;5113343]I 100% agree with you. Thedudeinsd gets all butt hurt if anyone disagrees with him about kris and gang and accuses you of being poor or rude to his supposively amazing girls. I saw them and they are not nearly as attractive. Perhaps he just had lower standards. But whatever to each his own.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SirBishop;5113425]He's butt hurt. Is he a pimp, manager or booker? IDGAF since he has clearly posted misleading info. I'm avoiding Cris and this crew based on what TheDudeInSd has posted. I don't need an image search to recognize the rants of a guy that is promoting his crew.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JuvyNiled;5113924]He's way too defensive in his perspective of these girls. It's a dead give away that he's getting kickbacks from these girls or is their manager / promoter.
He should be disqualified of senior member status.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Waylay;5114000]I don't know that guy from adam, but I also have observed his pattern of shilling and it is highly suspicious. Whatever his connection is to Cris and the rest of them, it's resulting in less-than unbiased reviews.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RolfTorren;5114081]I've noted previously that there is something weird about those posts. If the services are legit and the girls hot, then the word will get around soon enough. The fact that it hasn't is telling. Personally I don't have the time to do systematic searches on images, names and reputations. I really appreciate it when guys who have made this a real hobby do, and share that info. You guys have saved me from wasting a lot of money. For me 2020 has been mixed. Some fantastic experiences (Ash, Bora in the Asian FS market). A cool encounter at KK with Jenny; and some phenomenal fbsm activity (Natalie, Michelle, Alyson). A significant number of others have been just "OK". And a couple of money and time wasters. I've talked about these in various threads over the year. The bottom line is I've learned to trust a few seasoned hobbyists and had some fun as a result. Hoping for better times in 2021.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GdAloha;5114683]What the hell is happening to this board! Not only are there TWO first time posting on this Asian thread, but there are also TWO first time posting on the independent massage thread! Can anyone guess what they all have in common. That's right! Thy all talk about or mention Cris and her friends!
I'm all for adding new members and getting input, but common! In just one day we have FOUR new members and each one of them has their first post talking about Cris and her friends.
Does anyone else see this?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PoonTangJohnny;5808095]Thank you.
It's interesting how you deflected responding to all the senior member's who called you out in the past. Perhaps you may have missed my post, where I quoted several of the reputable senior member's here? You may want to read or re-read their comments where they torched you and respond to them as well. It's very clear how these senior member's (GDAloha, Baller55, SDJaziKing, Sir Bishop, Rolf Torren, Waylay, Trusty Harilip) feel in regards to your obvious agenda here. These highly respected member's called you out for doing this exact same thing (shilling) about a year ago, yet here you are, continuing your shill agenda. The problem is, you're not very good at it.
I am new here but I'm not new to this hobby. I've been following this place for about 2 years now. All of the hoopla surrounding VIP brought me out of my shell. Up until my experiences at VIP, I've never had experiences anything close to what they've been provided me. Personally, there is no need for me to go anywhere else now. I'm sorry if I may have offended you and struck a nerve for posting what I feel the truth to be. It isn't personal. Happy mongering.
Please, read these again, then get back to me.[/QUOTE]How can I be a shill when I have reviewed over 100 girls that are not affiliated w Cris? Am I a shill for all of them?
[QUOTE=TheDudeInSd;5808576]How can I be a shill when I have reviewed over 100 girls that are not affiliated w Cris? Am I a shill for all of them?[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it. The smarter readers can determine who is shilling, white knighting, bull shitting and even if they can't, they'll figure it out at the point of action and hopefully set the record straight.
Personally, I suspect the more adamant posts are from boyfriends or pussy whipped mongers chiming in. I'm with the other dude that mentioned grabbing the popcorn and enjoy the entertainment.
One day, Bill had a monger urge and went to the spa Asia Zill.
There he got to fill a beauty named Jill who gave him such an amazing thrill.
Bill told Phil, and so Phil went to see Jill at Asia Zill.
But Jill was busy, so Phil got to see Lill who was as cute as Jill.
Phil put the drill to Lill and found she had such skill that he too felt a thrill.
Bill posted his thrill with Jill, and Phil shared the skill he found with Lill.
Will read the posts and went to see Jill or Lill at Asia Zill.
Will got Jill and thought she was ill because she lied there completely still which lacked any thrill as he worked his drill.
Will prefers to drill his favorite girl Yill at Asian Dill for an amazing thrill and posts for all to read.
Will was not happy with Jill at Asia Zill, because he got nill, and said Bill must be a Shill.
Bill read the post were Will said he was a Shill and said WTF?
Phil told Bill to just swallow the pill and go back and drill Jill for another thrill and not bother with Will.
Gill then posts that Yill at Asian Dill was a thrill, and Will agrees, so Gill is not a Shill to Will, but Bill is.
Bill and Phil go fill and drill Jill and Lill for the thrill and the skill again, and then go get a few beers and laugh.
I think the next day Bill and Phil played golf.
(If anything here resembles anything or anyone, it is by pure coincidence, or the result of a guilty conscience. The names have been changed to hide the guilty and protect the innocent, it is for entertainment purposes only. If you find it humorous I'm glad, if you take it too seriously I think that is sad).
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5809492]One day, Bill had a monger urge and went to the spa Asia Zill.
There he got to fill a beauty named Jill who gave him such an amazing thrill.
Bill told Phil, and so Phil went to see Jill at Asia Zill.
But Jill was busy, so Phil got to see Lill who was as cute as Jill.
Phil put the drill to Lill and found she had such skill that he too felt a thrill.
Bill posted his thrill with Jill, and Phil shared the skill he found with Lill.
Will read the posts and went to see Jill or Lill at Asia Zill.
Will got Jill and thought she was ill because she lied there completely still which lacked any thrill as he worked his drill.[/QUOTE]Love it, thanks for the laugh.
Keep on rockin' in the Free world.
[QUOTE=Ryan1979;5809369]
Personally, I suspect the more adamant posts are from boyfriends or pussy whipped mongers chiming in. I'm with the other dude that mentioned grabbing the popcorn and enjoy the entertainment.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah, I like to think I'm their boyfriends when we are passionately making love; and they continue to think of me even days after our sessions. Thanks for all the I miss you texts ladies. LOL.
Pussy whipped- I think we all are, otherwise why would we be paying so much money when we all can be dating a civi girl. Also I believed some of us are probably married or in relationships. Yes, I’m a little pussy whipped. Lol
Yep, I am definitely pussy whipped. I met a masseuse at a nonFS spa and think I'm in love. LOL. I saw her twice yesterday, and already saw her again this afternoon. She couldn't do multiple hours earlier because she had other appointments, but I have another appointment with her later this evening. She gives the most sensuous HJ for my first appointment. My second appointment she let me massaged her beautiful body. Her boobs are amazing. Earlier today we did some light kissing. Baby steps but I'm loving the slow getting to "know you" moments. This might be my favorite UTR yet. Hell yeah, I'm pussy whipped.
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5811554]Yep, I am definitely pussy whipped. I met a masseuse at a nonFS spa and think I'm in love. LOL. I saw her twice yesterday, and already saw her again this afternoon. She couldn't do multiple hours earlier because she had other appointments, but I have another appointment with her later this evening. She gives the most sensuous HJ for my first appointment. My second appointment she let me massaged her beautiful body. Her boobs are amazing. Earlier today we did some light kissing. Baby steps but I'm loving the slow getting to "know you" moments. This might be my favorite UTR yet. Hell yeah, I'm pussy whipped.[/QUOTE]Baby steps til she pops the question batting her eyes at you!
"Baby" or "Honey" can I borrow $500?
Than she whispers we go all the way next time, than never getting all the way?
Are you going to do it?
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5811554]Yep, I am definitely pussy whipped. I met a masseuse at a nonFS spa and think I'm in love. LOL. I saw her twice yesterday, and already saw her again this afternoon. She couldn't do multiple hours earlier because she had other appointments, but I have another appointment with her later this evening. She gives the most sensuous HJ for my first appointment. My second appointment she let me massaged her beautiful body. Her boobs are amazing. Earlier today we did some light kissing. Baby steps but I'm loving the slow getting to "know you" moments. This might be my favorite UTR yet. Hell yeah, I'm pussy whipped.[/QUOTE]Stupid shit in SD has me seeking Fun Times in TJ. LOL.
Saw an old favorite here in southern SD (AMP FS massage), and while it was pretty decent, it actually didn't meet expectations and didn't compare to sooo many of the other sessions w / her.
So I hopped the border and had one dud of a session, followed-up by an awesome session that I extended for another hour, because I couldn't let her go before getting inside her one last time (until next time). This 2nd provider, if she were any better looking and w / o kids, could very possibly have me whipped. She's definitely on my to-do (again) list. *whip-crack off in the distance*.
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;5811650]Baby steps til she pops the question batting her eyes at you!
"Baby" or "Honey" can I borrow $500?
Than she whispers we go all the way next time, than never getting all the way?
Are you going to do it?[/QUOTE]First lesson in hobbying- Never loan money to an escort, especially one that gives promises that next time will be better; let's get dinner, etc.
I did say my new friend is an UTR nonFS masseuse and not a GPS escort. LOL. Yeah this hottie didn't even want the tip the second appointment that I gave her a massage so she's not a GPS want-to-be escort. She's definitely an UTR candidate. LOL.
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5811502]Hell yeah, I like to think I'm their boyfriends when we are passionately making love; and they continue to think of me even days after our sessions. Thanks for all the I miss you texts ladies. LOL.
Pussy whipped- I think we all are, otherwise why would we be paying so much money when we all can be dating a civi girl. Also I believed some of us are probably married or in relationships. Yes, Im a little pussy whipped. Lol[/QUOTE]Civi pussy can have lots of baggage with it. Sometimes it's the thrill of an AMP girl that helps get you off. You get to do things you normally wouldn't do and won't be judge for it per day. Sometimes we all just want a different flavor, like a kid at ice cream store "I just want to try different flavors out. ".
The providers are in the business to make money.
If you visit a lot, it probably follows that you spend a lot, and if you also treat them very nicely they are very likely going to give you special privileges.
They'll be happy to play girl friend, and let you play boyfriend. You are a good steady source of money, and you treat them right, what's not to like about you?
If you visit them so much and treat them so well that they won't take your money, or give you money back because you tipped "too much" well I say good for you.
If you share contact information, it would only follow that they would want to have you come back and would send you texts to bring you back. Wouldn't you call a good customer back who brings money to your business?
It would not be a surprise to learn that many of the women are searching for their American White Knight, so watch out for the ones who get too close.
What ever your impression of your relationship with the girls, thanks to all the mongers who spend their time and money with the girls and share their experience in these forums.
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5811833]First lesson in hobbying- Never loan money to an escort, especially one that gives promises that next time will be better; let's get dinner, etc.[/QUOTE]We learn it, we teach it, and we preach it. Then wham, a few good times with a nice looking, down on her luck girl, and we do it again.
Meeting a nice looking gal outside one of the local hotel chains, led to her phone number. Shortly after that, voice and text started flowing, and our first "date" was set up. It went perfectly, and she mentioned that it was her first time going to a hotel with a guy that she had just met who was able to help her out. I found that hard to believe, but accepted. A second meeting followed, and this was better than the first.
I was out of town for a few days, and she wanted me to send her some cash via Venmo or CashApp. Red Flag. I told her that I did not use either, and was unable. She thanked me anyway. After my return, we had plans to meet again. She came up with a need for the cash that I would have paid her, needing it right away. She promised a friend was going to join us the next day in return for my advancing the cash to her. So I advanced (gave) her the cash, and immediately had a bad feeling about all of this. She never did show up, and does not answer her texts or phone now.
As in all endeavors that take years to perfect, mistakes will be made along the way. Many endeavors are very successful, but if you forget the basics, you can be hurt. The only difference between a novice and an experienced veteran, is that the vet knows how to cover up his mistakes better. LOL. Enjoy the journey gentlemen, it is a great ride.
It takes a real man to admit they're pussy whipped. LOL! JK bro. But seriously, some of the posts are obvious who's who.
Personally I do date civi's but love women and variety. From my perspective I'm not paying these working girls to be my 1 hour or more girlfriend. I'm paying them so I can walk away no strings attached.
Stay thirsty my friend!
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5811502]Hell yeah, I like to think I'm their boyfriends when we are passionately making love; and they continue to think of me even days after our sessions. Thanks for all the I miss you texts ladies. LOL.
Pussy whipped- I think we all are, otherwise why would we be paying so much money when we all can be dating a civi girl. Also I believed some of us are probably married or in relationships. Yes, Im a little pussy whipped. Lol[/QUOTE]
No baby, but if you're ever lonely and need some good loving, I'm always here for you. Booyah!
BTW: "No" in Mandarin is pronounced Bu or Boo.
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;5811650]Baby steps til she pops the question batting her eyes at you!
"Baby" or "Honey" can I borrow $500?
Than she whispers we go all the way next time, than never getting all the way?
Are you going to do it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5811833]First lesson in hobbying- Never loan money to an escort, especially one that gives promises that next time will be better; let's get dinner, etc.
I did say my new friend is an UTR nonFS masseuse and not a GPS escort. LOL. Yeah this hottie didn't even want the tip the second appointment that I gave her a massage so she's not a GPS want-to-be escort. She's definitely an UTR candidate. LOL.[/QUOTE]I learned this lesson the hard way, way back in the day w / strippers. Never loan them money based on almost certainly empty promises. If they want to earn it right away, then let's talk, otherwise GTFO w / that nonsense.
[QUOTE=DragonWolf;5813637]I learned this lesson the hard way, way back in the day w / strippers. Never loan them money based on almost certainly empty promises. If they want to earn it right away, then let's talk, otherwise GTFO w / that nonsense.[/QUOTE]With any girl in the sex industry, that I see outside of their work environment, I make it clear that I am not a sugar daddy. This usually leads to fun conversation, but if not the red flags start waving and that girl becomes history or strictly a pleasurable business relationship. BTW I never do loans for family, friends and especially girls I hardly know. Loans break many relationships so best not to "loan" anyone you care about money.
With both spa girls or civies, if they "expect" money or luxuries from me, our friendship ends. Before anyone starts chiming in that's what all girls are looking for, I've made many long lasting friendships with both working girls and civies that insist on paying for dining, buying me things, exchanging red envelopes, etc. Just like regular friends that treat and care for each other, because we are true friends or FWB's (Friends with benefits) as I like to think of them.
On the sly side, it depends on the girl. If I sense a girl is waving their pussy carrot in front of me, I can wave that cash carrot in front of them taking advantage of their charms while never actually spending any real cash. Tit for tat.
According to the Urban Dictionary, being pussy whipped is when a man loses his testicles to a woman.
A situation where he allows her to walk all over him, and control every aspect of his life.
Liking, enjoying, and seeking pussy doesn't make a man Pussy whipped.
Just being a Monger or Hobbiest is evidence enough you are not pussy whipped.
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;5815612]According to the Urban Dictionary, being pussy whipped is when a man loses his testicles to a woman.
A situation where he allows her to walk all over him, and control every aspect of his life.
Liking, enjoying, and seeking pussy doesn't make a man Pussy whipped.
Just being a Monger or Hobbiest is evidence enough you are not pussy whipped.[/QUOTE]Anytime I see the term pussy whooped, I imaging being surrounded by beautiful women's vaginas, and these women air humping my face. Then I get angry at myself for having 1 tongue!
Sorry. Moving on.
Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.
[QUOTE=Waylay;5828762]Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.[/QUOTE]I agree it's ridiculous. I feel like it's very hard to tell what's real and what's not anymore. I get where you're coming from with limiting posts but at the same time don't. Not all of us are acting a fool on here. Yes I haven't contributed a ton but I also don't partake very often.
Agreed. I must have missed the pics calling out spas but the shill first time posters with limited English are a dead give away. Its actually working against them in my opinion. When I see a post like that, I now know what provider to avoid.
[QUOTE=Waylay;5828762]Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RolfTorren;5829145]Agreed. I must have missed the pics calling out spas but the shill first time posters with limited English are a dead give away. Its actually working against them in my opinion. When I see a post like that, I now know what provider to avoid.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Couldn't have said it better.
I agree with both. There are guys on here that don't post much at all and I exchange information with them daily because I know their intel are solid. We all have to start somewhere with our first post so why not review a beauty from a top spa. I'm not going to a granny shop and post about that for my first review. We just need to see if these first time posters continue contributing or if they are just fakes. The fakes are probably senior members with multiple handles going at once. These are the yahoos I'm more suspicious about because they have agendas. You can see it in their reviews (how they write, make certain references) how they take slight jabs at other spas when reviewing a certain establishment or girl.
Maybe some reviews are written by the girls or MMS, but if it stops after just one review then we'll know. If reviews continue to flow in like for Petra, Kimberly6969, Mina, Eva, Mia then we know the girls are real.
It's not the name of the spa that makes me frequent an establishment. I will go where my favorites are or where I know the hotties are going. It's also how I'm treated as a client. Does the establishment do bait and switch, short me on time, etc.
I just ignore the drama!
[QUOTE=MilfLoverr;5829032]I agree it's ridiculous. I feel like it's very hard to tell what's real and what's not anymore. I get where you're coming from with limiting posts but at the same time don't. Not all of us are acting a fool on here. Yes I haven't contributed a ton but I also don't partake very often.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Waylay;5828762]Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.[/QUOTE]