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[QUOTE=Illinois;2895307]Ok, I've gone head first in this hobby, (no pun intended). I freaking love it. I have a real nice selection of gals, and I still haven't tried all that I want yet. I really wish I could come up with a second source of income. This is an expensive hobby with the size of my appetite. Any ideas? LOL.[/QUOTE]Have you considered becoming a pimp and having the women bring the money to you?
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2896416]Have you considered becoming a pimp and having the women bring the money to you?[/QUOTE]I have actually seriously considered that. I am extremely well educated, great people skills, and have a physical appearance to pull it off. Just don't know how to start something like that. I thought it would be a great idea to get a few experienced mongers together to start an agency. Who's with me? Some of the girls I see are looking for more business, but don't have a clue. All they are missing is the marketing aspect of the business. The ideas I have mixed with other ideas other experienced mongers have, we could clean house!
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2896416]Have you considered becoming a pimp and having the women bring the money to you?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084412/?ref_=nv_sr_2[/URL]
Lovethatbob, please clean out your inbox.
I'm just saying I wouldn't assume everything in the video on Cop Checks is correct. Until 2014 cops in Hawaii could have sex with the escort and then make the bust. Check local laws on monger boards.
[URL]http://time.com/38444/hawaii-police-prostitutes-sex/[/URL]
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2893568]Some interesting material about the hobby found on this site:
[URL]http://www.copsrcorrupt.com/backpage-police-stings.html[/URL]
Topics covered.
10 Rules to Keep You Safe.
(We all know) Prostitution should be legal.
(How to) Legalize Prostitution.
Escorts: A Historical Look.
Do's and Don'ts Street Prostitutes.
Quotes.
Some of the videos on the site are pretty good.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Illinois;2896672]I have actually seriously considered that. I am extremely well educated, great people skills, and have a physical appearance to pull it off. Just don't know how to start something like that. I thought it would be a great idea to get a few experienced mongers together to start an agency. Who's with me? Some of the girls I see are looking for more business, but don't have a clue. All they are missing is the marketing aspect of the business. The ideas I have mixed with other ideas other experienced mongers have, we could clean house![/QUOTE]Then you would have to buy their dope plus smack them around when they come up short with your $. Too much drama I'd say.
[QUOTE=Tomg01;2908582]I'm just saying I wouldn't assume everything in the video on Cop Checks is correct. Until 2014 cops in Hawaii could have sex with the escort and then make the bust. Check local laws on monger boards.
[URL]http://time.com/38444/hawaii-police-prostitutes-sex/[/URL][/QUOTE]Well that was the best state to be a cop! LOL.
A few days ago, one of my ATF's contacted me and explained that she was under the radar and wouldn't be advertising any more.
From what I could tell, she hasn't advertised in over a year. Claims to have a day job now. She is willing to do Outcalls to my house but would no longer be meeting in hotels.
I have always been reluctant to have providers visit me in my home but I'm considering taking a chance on this one. For those of you who have seen providers in your home, did you regret doing so?
Kemo.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2921496]A few days ago, one of my ATF's contacted me and explained that she was under the radar and wouldn't be advertising any more.
From what I could tell, she hasn't advertised in over a year. Claims to have a day job now. She is willing to do Outcalls to my house but would no longer be meeting in hotels.
I have always been reluctant to have providers visit me in my home but I'm considering taking a chance on this one. For those of you who have seen providers in your home, did you regret doing so?
Kemo.[/QUOTE]Watch out for potential burglary and casing of the house. Why us she UTR now, warrants? Why no Motel? One of the girlsthat was working up here had 3 county warrants for burglary and got caught here. Think carefully Kemo.
My experience is the opposite. I have never had a problem, and the girls tend to know not to do anything suspicious.
But I live in a loft downtown and there are security cameras, so I'm very comfortable. Obviously I do not let them out of sight except for the bathroom. Not much to take in there. But overall it works well. Even with SWs. That way I'm not nervous about LEO.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2921496]A few days ago, one of my ATF's contacted me and explained that she was under the radar and wouldn't be advertising any more.
From what I could tell, she hasn't advertised in over a year. Claims to have a day job now. She is willing to do Outcalls to my house but would no longer be meeting in hotels.
I have always been reluctant to have providers visit me in my home but I'm considering taking a chance on this one. For those of you who have seen providers in your home, did you regret doing so?
Kemo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2921496]A few days ago, one of my ATF's contacted me and explained that she was under the radar and wouldn't be advertising any more.
From what I could tell, she hasn't advertised in over a year. Claims to have a day job now. She is willing to do Outcalls to my house but would no longer be meeting in hotels.
I have always been reluctant to have providers visit me in my home but I'm considering taking a chance on this one. For those of you who have seen providers in your home, did you regret doing so?
Kemo.[/QUOTE]Well.
Be sure to hide your keys to everything, wallet, check book, ss card and numbers, bank statements, any gold or jewelry, and um. Basically anything of value or that can be used for identity theft, and you should be fine. .
[QUOTE=CubWin1908;2922484]My experience is the opposite. I have never had a problem, and the girls tend to know not to do anything suspicious.
But I live in a loft downtown and there are security cameras, so I'm very comfortable. Obviously I do not let them out of sight except for the bathroom. Not much to take in there. But overall it works well. Even with SWs. That way I'm not nervous about LEO.[/QUOTE]Just cause you've never had a problem doesn't mean you won't in the future.
[QUOTE=Turbodood;2922504]Well.
Be sure to hide your keys to everything, wallet, check book, ss card and numbers, bank statements, any gold or jewelry, and um. Basically anything of value or that can be used for identity theft, and you should be fine. .[/QUOTE]Good points Turbodood! I'm more concerned about her showing up at my house without notice when friends or family might be visiting. Plus I'm sure my neighbors will see her coming and leaving. Except for being able to bang her in my own bed or on the back porch, I can't see any real advantage to meeting her at home. The few dollars I save on a hotel room seem insignificant compared to the potential drama I could be exposing myself to at home. I checked her criminal record and only found one minor motor vehicle incident.
To answer JohnnyRue's question, she didn't want to spend the money on a hotel room for one client. She is looking for a sugar daddy type of arrangement.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2921496]A few days ago, one of my ATF's contacted me and explained that she was under the radar and wouldn't be advertising any more.
From what I could tell, she hasn't advertised in over a year. Claims to have a day job now. She is willing to do Outcalls to my house but would no longer be meeting in hotels.
I have always been reluctant to have providers visit me in my home but I'm considering taking a chance on this one. For those of you who have seen providers in your home, did you regret doing so?
Kemo.[/QUOTE]Hey Kemo! The guys have very valid points. Keep your valuables hidden. Family pics should be out of site. I've done it before and you just have to be very selective. If you already know the girl well and have a good feel for her then the experience should be good. I just wouldn't make a habit of it. Honestly, it might just be simpler to rent a hour motel room and meet there. Good luck.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2922652]Good points Turbodood! I'm more concerned about her showing up at my house without notice when friends or family might be visiting. Plus I'm sure my neighbors will see her coming and leaving. Except for being able to bang her in my own bed or on the back porch, I can't see any real advantage to meeting her at home. The few dollars I save on a hotel room seem insignificant compared to the potential drama I could be exposing myself to at home. I checked her criminal record and only found one minor motor vehicle incident.
To answer JohnnyRue's question, she didn't want to spend the money on a hotel room for one client. She is looking for a sugar daddy type of arrangement.[/QUOTE]OR, when she returns unannounced to load up the air compressor out of your garage, or the 4 K tv she's been wanting with her bf and his pick em up truck. LOL Of course this all applies to anyone and everyone. Trust no one. Ever. I grew up in a community where we left the keys in the car, in case one of the neighbors needed it. We never locked the doors at home, and your word was your bond, and handshakes to seal a deal were a binding agreement. It was a bit of culture shock moving to an area where morals and integrity no longer exist. I now lock my car when I go in to the gas station to pay for my gas and get everything in writing now.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2921496]A few days ago, one of my ATF's contacted me and explained that she was under the radar and wouldn't be advertising any more.
From what I could tell, she hasn't advertised in over a year. Claims to have a day job now. She is willing to do Outcalls to my house but would no longer be meeting in hotels.
I have always been reluctant to have providers visit me in my home but I'm considering taking a chance on this one. For those of you who have seen providers in your home, did you regret doing so?
Kemo.[/QUOTE]Sometimes it gets hard to even trust family members, you never know what is really going on in their lives and what it has done to their mind. Same with bringing a woman to you house, things maybe good today and gone tomorrow, when I say gone I mean their way of thinking and acting and your tv stereo and anything of value.
About 20 yrs ago a judges daughter cleaned my house and took care of me on the side, she met the man of her life, and change her life and took many of my personal things that could never be replace and never have. But the judge gave her a place to stay for a year. Rent free and no key to get out.
Just think about life changing situations, yours and hers.
[QUOTE=Recapacitar;2923162]Hey Kemo! The guys have very valid points. Keep your valuables hidden. Family pics should be out of site. I've done it before and you just have to be very selective. If you already know the girl well and have a good feel for her then the experience should be good. I just wouldn't make a habit of it. Honestly, it might just be simpler to rent a hour motel room and meet there. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Guys.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I don't think that I will be seeing this girl at my house.
Kemo.
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Remember Kelsey from Backpage?
I just learned from an LE website's missing teen report that Kelsey was not legal a few years ago when she first advertised on Backpage. A few mongers posted about their experiences. Just be glad that you were not caught having sex with Kelsey when she was underage. Be careful when seeing the young providers!
Kemo
I totally agree, there is a well reviewed girl on RTP that advertises as Madison and 19, but her fb says she just started high school last year. Eek!
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2924255]Remember Kelsey from Backpage?
I just learned from an LE website's missing teen report that Kelsey was not legal a few years ago when she first advertised on Backpage. A few mongers posted about their experiences. Just be glad that you were not caught having sex with Kelsey when she was underage. Be careful when seeing the young providers!
Kemo[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2924255]Remember Kelsey from Backpage?
I just learned from an LE website's missing teen report that Kelsey was not legal a few years ago when she first advertised on Backpage. A few mongers posted about their experiences. Just be glad that you were not caught having sex with Kelsey when she was underage. Be careful when seeing the young providers!
Kemo[/QUOTE]I remember her and remember thinking that she looked young but since I haven't seen BP girls in a while, I am happy to say I do not have this hanging over my head.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2923798]Guys.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I don't think that I will be seeing this girl at my house.
Kemo.[/QUOTE]If you have any bad feelings about inviting someone over, don't. I have had one girl at my place that ended up thinking afterwards, that I should not have invited her in, but since she was only here for about 30 min and she was with me the entire time, I knew she didn't take anything. Also, since I picked her up and brought her back to my place, there was almost no way she knew how to get to my place since she spend the ride back giving me a BJ and not seeing the way here.
I think we need to offer some consulting to the ladies on Backpage. Hear me out.
Most of us, the guys with disposable cash, are at least 40, etc. Why do these ladies think making videos of themselves shaking their ass to rap music is going to be a good marketing strategy? I don't expect them do sound like doctoral candidates but damn. Those vids are too ghetto to get me interested. Am I the only one?
[QUOTE=STLguy1980;2924367]If you have any bad feelings about inviting someone over, don't. I have had one girl at my place that ended up thinking afterwards, that I should not have invited her in, but since she was only here for about 30 min and she was with me the entire time, I knew she didn't take anything. Also, since I picked her up and brought her back to my place, there was almost no way she knew how to get to my place since she spend the ride back giving me a BJ and not seeing the way here.[/QUOTE]Actually it would be pretty easy to find your house. If she was using an iPhone with the "Find my phone" or "Find my Friends" apps running on the phone. These apps report the map position of the users phone and iPads too. The phones position could be viewed on a web page or another phone. Just imagine the possibilities!
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2924638]Actually it would be pretty easy to find your house. If she was using an iPhone with the "Find my phone" or "Find my Friends" apps running on the phone. These apps report the map position of the users phone and iPads too. The phones position could be viewed on a web page or another phone. Just imagine the possibilities![/QUOTE]I suppose it is lucky that 85% of these girls barely have working phones or always 'need minutes'. Most of the girls I let come to my place are ones that I have met on SA and have been able to find them on FB and determine if they are a risk or not. I would never let a SW come to my place. Even the ones I trust to come over, I put anything with my name out of site and any valuables that they could easily put in a purse away. Also, I hardly ever leave them alone in my place, only when they are in the bathroom since they are not here to scout the place, they are here to work.
I am happy that I have not had the robbery or risky encounters most of you seem to have had. I guess listening to my spidey-senses has kept me pretty safe.
You know, some times this board is the perfect example of something people have been saying about the Internet. If you want to find the answer to something, never ask for help, always post the wrong way to do it. People never want to help but they do love correcting people when they are doing it wrong.
[QUOTE=Sarcasticles;2924621]I think we need to offer some consulting to the ladies on Backpage. Hear me out.
Most of us, the guys with disposable cash, are at least 40, etc. Why do these ladies think making videos of themselves shaking their ass to rap music is going to be a good marketing strategy? I don't expect them do sound like doctoral candidates but damn. Those vids are too ghetto to get me interested. Am I the only one?[/QUOTE]What if we just send text messages to these girls to let them know that the music they are using does not appeal to the men likely to be their customers. Actually most of these videos would not spark my interest even without the ghetto sound tracks.
[QUOTE=STLguy1980;2924713]You know, some times this board is the perfect example of something people have been saying about the Internet. If you want to find the answer to something, never ask for help, always post the wrong way to do it. People never want to help but they do love correcting people when they are doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I said this same thing over on another b board and was reamed pretty good. And most of the time, you'll spend less energy just answering the question than correcting and complaining.
Had to check this out to verify if it was true. Her info is easy enough to track down but she's not in high school. Her FB does say she started high school last year but if you dig a little deeper you'll see that that's just bad info. She's out of highschool by a few years and, presumably, of age -- pretty safe assumption that she's not a genius who graduated early and does this as side work while doing Nobel Prize research.
[QUOTE=Newbiehobbyguy;2924287]I totally agree, there is a well reviewed girl on RTP that advertises as Madison and 19, but her fb says she just started high school last year. Eek!
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[QUOTE=DirtyDuke;2925387]Had to check this out to verify if it was true. Her info is easy enough to track down but she's not in high school. Her FB does say she started high school last year but if you dig a little deeper you'll see that that's just bad info. She's out of highschool by a few years and, presumably, of age -- pretty safe assumption that she's not a genius who graduated early and does this as side work while doing Nobel Prize research.[/QUOTE]I saw her once. She is in my top 3 for sure. She just turned 21.
[QUOTE=Illinois;2926864]I saw her once. She is in my top 3 for sure. She just turned 21.[/QUOTE]Is this the one that goes by Madison Baby on RTP?
[QUOTE=QueNine;2927272]Is this the one that goes by Madison Baby on RTP?[/QUOTE]Yes, and she is an absolute doll! Hard to schedule but worth the effort.
Well it looks like I will come to town for a weenie roast. Hope everyone has a good weekend. Take Care and have fun.
[QUOTE=STLguy1980;2924709]I suppose it is lucky that 85% of these girls barely have working phones or always 'need minutes'. Most of the girls I let come to my place are ones that I have met on SA and have been able to find them on FB and determine if they are a risk or not. I would never let a SW come to my place. Even the ones I trust to come over, I put anything with my name out of site and any valuables that they could easily put in a purse away. Also, I hardly ever leave them alone in my place, only when they are in the bathroom since they are not here to scout the place, they are here to work. I am happy that I have not had the robbery or risky encounters most of you seem to have had. I guess listening to my spidey-senses has kept me pretty safe.[/QUOTE]
And yet, even in the bathroom, they go through any meds you might have and steal them. This is also not limited to the girls. I used to work with a guy that headed for the medicine cabinet in every home we went to. If they think they can either get high on them, or can sell them, they are gone. (I forgot about this) I usually have 20-30.00 worth of quarters on my desk, and I have even had one that could grab a handful of quarters without losing her stride or making a sound while walking through my home.
[QUOTE=Turbodood;2932196]And yet, even in the bathroom, they go through any meds you might have and steal them. This is also not limited to the girls. I used to work with a guy that headed for the medicine cabinet in every home we went to. If they think they can either get high on them, or can sell them, they are gone. (I forgot about this) I usually have 20-30.00 worth of quarters on my desk, and I have even had one that could grab a handful of quarters without losing her stride or making a sound while walking through my home.[/QUOTE]I hide any meds in my house, mainly because the bottles have my name on them. I have had a couple tell me my apartment looks like a hotel room it is so clean. I don't tell them it is because I don't trust them with anything not bolted down or too big to put in their purse.
I will say this, last year I had a girl from WYP, that had been to my place 5-6 times before, come over one night and she went right to the bathroom because it 'was a long drive' to my place. When she came out she had taken her shoes and socks off, and was in there for a while. I asked her to leave immediately and when she asked why, I told her it was because I know that she had been shooting up (between her toes) while in the bathroom and I didn't want that shit anywhere near me or my place. I have not seen that girl since that time but according to her FB page she is doing well. Hopefully she got help but that is another reason I don't leave them alone in my place.
What would you do if a prostitute died in your home? This happened to a hobbyist on the East Coast about ten to fifteen years ago. The man lost his business and served some jail time.
[URL]http://articles.philly.com/2005-12-28/news/25421869_1_murder-charge-ashley-burg-indictment[/URL]
[URL]http://articles.philly.com/2005-09-15/news/25429033_1_cocaine-overdose-cocaine-poisoning-ashley-burg[/URL]
I would imagine that the 911 call would be a little awkward when the police asks for the womans full name or her home address. In most cases you wouldn't have a clue.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2932621]What would you do if a prostitute died in your home? This happened to a hobbyist on the East Coast about ten to fifteen years ago. The man lost his business and served some jail time.
[URL]http://articles.philly.com/2005-12-28/news/25421869_1_murder-charge-ashley-burg-indictment[/URL]
[URL]http://articles.philly.com/2005-09-15/news/25429033_1_cocaine-overdose-cocaine-poisoning-ashley-burg[/URL]
I would imagine that the 911 call would be a little awkward when the police asks for the womans full name or her home address. In most cases you wouldn't have a clue.[/QUOTE]Her last name is walker and she lives at the corner of Bates and Grand.
[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2932621]What would you do if a prostitute died in your home? This happened to a hobbyist on the East Coast about ten to fifteen years ago. The man lost his business and served some jail time.
[URL]http://articles.philly.com/2005-12-28/news/25421869_1_murder-charge-ashley-burg-indictment[/URL]
[URL]http://articles.philly.com/2005-09-15/news/25429033_1_cocaine-overdose-cocaine-poisoning-ashley-burg[/URL]
I would imagine that the 911 call would be a little awkward when the police asks for the womans full name or her home address. In most cases you wouldn't have a clue.[/QUOTE]This is truly a sad situation for everyone involved. One person dead, and others lives ruined forever. If someone happens to OD on something, people tend to dump their bodies, rather than call for help out of fear of prosecution. Cases like this are exactly why good Samaritan laws are passed. It gives immunity and freedom from a lawsuit or legal action from trying to help in an emergency situation. If I am not mistaken, Missouri recently changed the good Samaritan laws, to prevent prosecution if someone happens to OD in their presence, and they try to get help. Rather than to just help get rid the body after the fact. In most cases, they can be saved if they get proper medical treatment in time. (or just needs some type of assistance such as the Heimlich maneuver).
[URL]http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/drug-overdose-immunity-good-samaritan-laws.aspx[/URL]
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2013/03/19/heroin-bill-seeks-immunity-for-overdose-calls-youre-weighing-a-conviction-versus-a-life
As in anything, check your local laws.
Don't know where to put this, so I guess I'll go with here. Put my feelers out to a few girls yesterday to try and schedule some late night fun. Most fell through. But one did not and I have seen her once before. Had spidey senses going off for two reasons. The first is because there were good amounts of time between our texts. I don't know why but it gave me a weird vibe. The second is because I told her I wanted a half hour. She said cool and asked how much I have. I said we would talk about it. She refused to give me her room number until I said how much I had. I turned around and went home. I'm guessing I did the right thing. I can see how guys can get themselves into trouble. It was extremely hard for me to give up and go home empty handed (no pun intended.).
[QUOTE=Illinois;2943363]Don't know where to put this, so I guess I'll go with here. Put my feelers out to a few girls yesterday to try and schedule some late night fun. Most fell through. But one did not and I have seen her once before. Had spidey senses going off for two reasons. The first is because there were good amounts of time between our texts. I don't know why but it gave me a weird vibe. The second is because I told her I wanted a half hour. She said cool and asked how much I have. I said we would talk about it. She refused to give me her room number until I said how much I had. I turned around and went home. I'm guessing I did the right thing. I can see how guys can get themselves into trouble. It was extremely hard for me to give up and go home empty handed (no pun intended.).[/QUOTE]I think you did the right thing, and it brings up a good point that I had not thought of. If you've seen a girl before, you can easily let your guard down. But if she got nabbed and LE has her phone, all they need is for you to say / text what you want and how much, and when you walk in the room they have enough to take you downtown. Maybe she was just being weird, but when in doubt I say walk away to play another day.