Thai independents

[QUOTE=RickNva;6913358]I have to ask, it's kind of a unicorn or challenge for me to find Thai provider who would do any kind of water sports.

This stems from my early mongering days when Thai lady excused herself to go pee. I asked if I could watch and she said using bathroom is a very private thing for Thai women. She implied that I'll never find one who would let me watch or more.

I know it's not everyone's kink, but I'm stubborn and would like to prove the original Thai provider wrong.[/QUOTE]Thai's are notorious for bathroom privacy and cleanliness. I once had a live in Thai GF who yelled at me for barging in the bathroom while she was on the shitter. In the homeland they don't even use toilet paper; they have a kitchen sink like sprayer next to the toilet and hose down that ass and pussy every time they go. My GF also took 5 showers a day but we were fucking a lot.

That said, Thai Bar Girls will do anything to improve thier status (money). Over there I have paid extra for BB anal, public flashing, having a straight girl go down on another, and even arranging a threesum with biological sisters. All this for a small (to me) uncharge that equaled a days pay to them.

Most all traveling Thai Indys here are Thai bar girls on a tourist visa. I verified this last year with a visit to Minnie when she told me her home base was a Farang bar in Pukhet and even mistook me for a customer there. Her long time Barfine (overnight outcall) was 5000thb ($135) which was much less than the 200 HHr and 300 Hr she was charging in Tysons.

Like I said a bar girl will do most anything to improve her status in society. I know a Thai here in NOVA that married a rich old fat 60 yo dude at the ripe age of 26. Turns out his money was stolen and when he went to prison she stayed with him for his State Pension until he died. Another example is Nong Nat, a pretty girl from a broken home who became a porn star, was arrested in a nationwide scandal, and married a billionaire property developer in Washington State. She is now a Thai celebrity like the Kardashians.

Just offer your girl double or triple her asking rate is your best chance for success.

[QUOTE=RickNva;6913358]I have to ask, it's kind of a unicorn or challenge for me to find Thai provider who would do any kind of water sports.

This stems from my early mongering days when Thai lady excused herself to go pee. I asked if I could watch and she said using bathroom is a very private thing for Thai women. She implied that I'll never find one who would let me watch or more.

I know it's not everyone's kink, but I'm stubborn and would like to prove the original Thai provider wrong.[/QUOTE]Not 100% sure she was Thai, but I saw one in Manhattan and she was a squirter and openly advertised it. Multiple positions, about every 15 seconds, would lift off a do a squirt and tremble, then we would keep pounding, and that repeated for a good 15 minutes. No idea how she could squirt that often and that much and honestly, it was one of the hottest experiences I've ever had.

[QUOTE=FakeName3;6915253]Most all traveling Thai Indys here are Thai bar girls on a tourist visa.[/QUOTE]Not sure I agree with that statement. There are quite a few that live in other US cities (LA, Chicago, etc.) and travel to the DMV for work. Those visiting Thai providers have adapted to the stateside style of the hobby more than those who have their primary home base in Thailand. And some of those providers, after traveling back and forth to their US home base, eventually decide to relocate to Virginia permanently. Sophie is a good example. She is friends with a local Thai provider, was invited to come work in VA, did the commute for a while, then moved to Fairfax and became a local. So, whatever the case is with Minnie, not sure it's accurate to make too broad of generalization.

[QUOTE]Just offer your girl double or triple her asking rate is your best chance for success.[/QUOTE]Thai providers are quite savvy so, for those who are highly persuadable by $, they're going to base any payment for extraordinary requests on what they think the US market price might be. Take Minnie, for example, assuming she'd be willing to entertain a watersports request, 3 x her regular rate would be upwards of $900. That's some rare coin for satisfying a fetish, especially when there are plenty of non-Thai providers who are more than willing to accommodate.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;6915594]Not sure I agree with that statement. There are quite a few that live in other US cities (LA, Chicago, etc.) and travel to the DMV for work. Those visiting Thai providers have adapted to the stateside style of the hobby more than those who have their primary home base in Thailand. And some of those providers, after traveling back and forth to their US home base, eventually decide to relocate to Virginia permanently. Sophie is a good example. She is friends with a local Thai provider, was invited to come work in VA, did the commute for a while, then moved to Fairfax and became a local. So, whatever the case is with Minnie, not sure it's accurate to make too broad of generalization.

Thai providers are quite savvy so, for those who are highly persuadable by $, they're going to base any payment for extraordinary requests on what they think the US market price might be. Take Minnie, for example, assuming she'd be willing to entertain a watersports request, 3 x her regular rate would be upwards of $900. That's some rare coin for satisfying a fetish, especially when there are plenty of non-Thai providers who are more than willing to accommodate.[/QUOTE]We all know that regulars in NOVA like Rhonda and Sophie have been here forever and are Americanized but I was referring to the new faces who show up on Bedpage that work out of Tysons and speak little english. I'm also pretty sure the regulars started out as Thai Bar Girls too as they are all cut from the same cloth.

The typical TBG is from Isan (poor rural NE Thailand) and got their sex education at around 13 by BF, brother, uncle, or papa and had a baby at around 15. Then they moved to Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket to work in the bar and sell themselves to support their babies and parents back home. This trade goes back to the early 60's when the USAF started using three bases in Isan during the Vietnam war.

I learned this history while stationed at a base in Arizona in 1981 after the King shut down the Isan bases in 1978. There were Thai bar girls everywhere who were lucky enough to get married to servicemen. My favorite was one called Nit Noy who was all of 4'10" and could fuck all night. She drank too much and started talking shit like " I wasn't a bar girl, I worked in the dining hall". When she really drank I always asked her if we could keep fucking when she passed out and she always said yes.

Good times. I fucked over 3 dozen Thai chicks just for helping them get their Baht Gold out if the pawn shops.

[QUOTE=FakeName3;6915718]We all know that regulars in NOVA like Rhonda and Sophie have been here forever and are Americanized but I was referring to the new faces who show up on Bedpage that work out of Tysons and speak little english. I'm also pretty sure the regulars started out as Thai Bar Girls too as they are all cut from the same cloth.

The typical TBG is from Isan (poor rural NE Thailand) and got their sex education at around 13 by BF, brother, uncle, or papa and had a baby at around 15. Then they moved to Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket to work in the bar and sell themselves to support their babies and parents back home. This trade goes back to the early 60's when the USAF started using three bases in Isan during the Vietnam war.

I learned this history while stationed at a base in Arizona in 1981 after the King shut down the Isan bases in 1978. There were Thai bar girls everywhere who were lucky enough to get married to servicemen. My favorite was one called Nit Noy who was all of 4'10" and could fuck all night. She drank too much and started talking shit like " I wasn't a bar girl, I worked in the dining hall". When she really drank I always asked her if we could keep fucking when she passed out and she always said yes.[/QUOTE]I'm not questioning your credentials or knowledge, only the inherent flaws of inductive reasoning (specific-to-general). Your experiences with some Thai women might apply to some but might not apply to others.

Since you bring up Sophie as one example, she's a local now but she started out as a visiting provider. The path she followed, as I described in my previous post, was quite different from the path you described.

Again, I simply take issue with any kind of "they are all cut from the same cloth" conclusions. As with most things, there are similarities and differences between people, even ones who come from the same environment. And people often have a remarkable ability to adapt quickly to their new environment. So, even for a provider who might have come from the background you describe, their interaction with a client in Virginia is likely to be markedly different than if that same interaction happened in Thailand.

P.S. Glad you had fun times fucking Thai girls in 1980's Arizona. Did you ever get the chance to visit Thailand and check out the bar girls there?

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;6915766]I'm not questioning your credentials or knowledge, only the inherent flaws of inductive reasoning (specific-to-general). Your experiences with some Thai women might apply to some but might not apply to others.

Since you bring up Sophie as one example, she's a local now but she started out as a visiting provider. The path she followed, as I described in my previous post, was quite different from the path you described.

Again, I simply take issue with any kind of "they are all cut from the same cloth" conclusions. As with most things, there are similarities and differences between people, even ones who come from the same environment. And people often have a remarkable ability to adapt quickly to their new environment. So, even for a provider who might have come from the background you describe, their interaction with a client in Virginia is likely to be markedly different than if that same interaction happened in Thailand.

P.S. Glad you had fun times fucking Thai girls in 1980's Arizona. Did you ever get the chance to visit Thailand and check out the bar girls there?[/QUOTE]I lived in Bangkok for over 6 years and used to post on this board;.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3017-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-TULIP-ONLY[/URL]!&p=875364#post875364. Post #796. Tulips is the best in the world.

I made friends with more than a few Nana Plaza mama sans and one night one came over to me and said they had a new girl just arrived from the Isan. She was cute so I paid her short time barfine and took her to the short time hotel for two hours. I fucked for an hour and then listened to her for the other. She was 18, sweet, and had a 2 yo son with a BF that ditched her. She also said her uncle tought her about sex when she was younger than that. I kinda felt sorry for her and would not have fucked her if I had talked to her before. Months later I bumped into her again at the bar and she had already become hardened and was letting customers finger her at the table for ladies drinks.

P4 P is everywhere. I have searched out and found girls to fuck for money in Cambodia, Laos, Singapore, Philippines, Fiji, Hong Kong, China, Mongolia, Korea, Japan, Indonesia, and others I can't remember. The beat place hands down in Quantity and Quality is Thailand.

[QUOTE=FakeName3;6916035]I lived in Bangkok for over 6 years and used to post on this board;.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3017-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-TULIP-ONLY[/URL]!&p=875364#post875364. Post #796. Tulips is the best in the world.[/QUOTE]My experience with Thai women has been primarily in Europe and the Middle East. I had quite a few amazing experiences and, while I was generous with "gifts," it wasn't a classic P4 P scenario. Several were massage therapists and then that led to more, and more, and more. My stateside encounters have been in the DMV and West Coast (LA+SF). So, while I've known (and banged) quite a few, none of them have been in the context of the Thailand Bar Girl scene.

Pussy can be had all over the world, that's for sure. My stateside experiences have had similarities and differences with those I had overseas. Each girl had unique qualities and I enjoyed (and continue to enjoy) the variety of it all.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;6916327]My experience with Thai women has been primarily in Europe and the Middle East. I had quite a few amazing experiences and, while I was generous with "gifts," it wasn't a classic P4 P scenario. Several were massage therapists and then that led to more, and more, and more. My stateside encounters have been in the DMV and West Coast (LA+SF). So, while I've known (and banged) quite a few, none of them have been in the context of the Thailand Bar Girl scene.

Pussy can be had all over the world, that's for sure. My stateside experiences have had similarities and differences with those I had overseas. Each girl had unique qualities and I enjoyed (and continue to enjoy) the variety of it all.[/QUOTE]You are correct; pussy is everywhere. Here are three of my most unusual exploits even though they are not Thai Indy related. Number #3 is right out of twilight zone.

#1. Harare Zimbabwe. I was there at a time of Hyperinflation and the corrupt govt controlled the currency exchange. Even though the official exchange rate was 400 to 1 USD I was getting 50,000 to one for my much in demand greenbacks at the bank. Thursday night was always a high stakes poker game at the house of an ExPat or Rhody and the money was like monopoly money so we all carried it in gym bags or briefcases. One night I cleaned up good and walked away with 10,000,000 Zim dollars (200 USD) and drove home at 3 am. On the way I stopped at a light and two collage age sweet spinner African girls were hanging out at the corner. I rolled down the window and they asked if I wanted a date and I said how much. One said 10,000 each so I said OK and they jumped in the back seat of the Land Cruiser and stripped while I looked for a dark street.

I jumped in the back and unzipped but none of us had a condom and BBFS was not an option in Africa. I settled on a two girl BBBJ with BLS and CIM. Afterwards I paid them 10,000 Zin dollars each and gave then 5,000 to split for a tip. Total cost for each girl was 1 US quarter. I gave real meaning to the phrase 2 bit W#e.

#2. Kabul Afganistan. Was visiting the embassy there and they had established a small green zone in the residential neighborhood behind the compound for the contractors to live. It was not officially off limits but we were encouraged not to go there. One of the contractors living there told me of a small neighborhood bar in the green zone ran mt two Chinese girls. I was curious so one night I walked back there, found the bar, and went inside for a drink. At the time there were only two British commercial pilots occupying the bar stools and two cute Chinese running the place. After a while the two pilots called it a night so it was just me and the two girls. I asked if we could have a threesum but they said they needed to keep the bar open so one took me to the back room for a quick fuck and then the other come in while the fist girl I fucked watched the bar. I got to fuck both but not at the same time. Total damage was 400 (2 for each girl) but I fucked two Chinese on the same night in a Muslim country in a war zone.

#3. Dhaka Bangladesh. Was there for a week on a business trip and my office set me up in a hotel a few blocks away and told me not to walk anywhere. They also gave me a big stack of 100 tika bills (1 USD) and told me they would come in handy if I needed help form anyone. There was no nightlife at all so Saturday afternoon I took off tracking with my iPhone as a map. I got several blocks from my hotel and was waiting to cross the street at the busy intersection when I noticed the MILF with big tits and showing huge cleavage. I just stared at her tits and when she caught me staring I just smiled and said nice. She smiled back and used her finger to pull her top down a bit for a better view. I said I like and when the light changed she motioned me to follow her in the other direction. I walked with her discreetly for a block to this shanty town in a large vacant area. She opened the door to this shanty house, half wood half tent, and motioned me in. Inside was a younger daughter / sister (legal age) who spoke a bit of exglash and I said hi and told her he was pretty. The MILF motioned me to site on the bed and the younger woman asked if she could sit next to me. Before I could say yes she sat down right on my hand and didn't move. We sat there for a while while she translated for me and her mother while I rubbed her pussy through those thin pants. After a few she stood up and I reached in my pocket, grabbed a 100 tika and gave it to her. She said something to her mom and left the house which concerned me a bit, but returned in a few with at least a dozen other ladies from the neighborhood. They all wanted to sit with me and have their pussy rubbed for 100 tika. Once they all had their turn they left me alone with the MILF who pulled out those big tits and gave ne a BBBJ. I gave her the rest of my bills (about 20 dollars) When I left all the girls were still waiting outside and they had spent some of their hard earned money to buy me a coke. I waved bye never to return.

[QUOTE=FakeName3;6916825]You are correct; pussy is everywhere. Here are three of my most unusual exploits even though they are not Thai Indy related. Number #3 is right out of twilight zone.

#1. Harare Zimbabwe. I was there at a time of Hyperinflation and the corrupt govt controlled the currency exchange. Even though the official exchange rate was 400 to 1 USD I was getting 50,000 to one for my much in demand greenbacks at the bank. Thursday night was always a high stakes poker game at the house of an ExPat or Rhody and the money was like monopoly money so we all carried it in gym bags or briefcases. One night I cleaned up good and walked away with 10,000,000 Zim dollars (200 USD) and drove home at 3 am. On the way I stopped at a light and two collage age sweet spinner African girls were hanging out at the corner. I rolled down the window and they asked if I wanted a date and I said how much. One said 10,000 each so I said OK and they jumped in the back seat of the Land Cruiser and stripped while I looked for a dark street.

I jumped in the back and unzipped but none of us had a condom and BBFS was not an option in Africa. I settled on a two girl BBBJ with BLS and CIM. Afterwards I paid them 10,000 Zin dollars each and gave then 5,000 to split for a tip. Total cost for each girl was 1 US quarter. I gave real meaning to the phrase 2 bit W#e..[/QUOTE]Fun read. Sounds like your work takes to exciting places.

Regards,

H19.

I've been it wanting to see her. Easy text & setup. Nice apartment. Got in, negotiated. Dropped clothes, climbed on the table. She comes in, tells me to switch places. Lube and slow entry. She kinda laid there, switched to doggie. She looks back, done yet? After a while, seeing she was uncomfortable. Asked if I want a HJ. Good technique. Bam. Showered afterwards. She's pretty, older, great body. No chemistry, ok, that happened, not anyone's fault.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;6914432]I'm sure she gets that question often, and I suspect she throws out a high number just to end the conversation. She only works occasionally so she doesn't rely solely on FBSM for income and isn't as easily influenced by $ as some others might be. I'm guessing that any monger who actually offered $800 would be met by a new set of hurdles to clear.

No matter how you slice it, anyone who books with Mint should temper their expectations about being able to push the envelope. She's like a restaurant that offers a limited menu, but what it does offer is damn good![/QUOTE]I agree; we all have a price, including mint. But Mongers shouldn't go there expecting anything more than a hand release and walkout butthurt when that's all they get. She's a cute GND type who's cool and gives a massage with a HE. Expectation management is vital in this hobby.

[QUOTE=DoctorDoctor;6919784]I've been it wanting to see her. Easy text & setup. Nice apartment. Got in, negotiated. Dropped clothes, climbed on the table. She comes in, tells me to switch places. Lube and slow entry. She kinda laid there, switched to doggie. She looks back, done yet? After a while, seeing she was uncomfortable. Asked if I want a HJ. Good technique. Bam. Showered afterwards. She's pretty, older, great body. No chemistry, ok, that happened, not anyone's fault.[/QUOTE]This Jasmine? [URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/fairfax/23217005.html[/URL].

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[QUOTE=PomLovesThais;6881245]She would be my number one choice here.[/QUOTE]Please dm contact info.

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