Does anyone have any recent info on the AMPs in Charlotte? I have been to CTS several times, which was fine, but the women were all middle age. Anyone have any experiences at any of the others?
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Does anyone have any recent info on the AMPs in Charlotte? I have been to CTS several times, which was fine, but the women were all middle age. Anyone have any experiences at any of the others?
Was cruising home Tuesday around 4pm when I pulled up to a stoplight on the Plaza near 36th. Rather cute little thing on the other side of the road caught my eye (and I caught hers). I nodded for around the corner and she followed suit. Very cute little gal, mid 20s, 105, 5'5", dirty blonde/brown. Did our cop check and hopped into the back of my van. VERY good oral conversation with happy ending for $20. Said her name was Michelle and did not want to share digits. Said she lived in the area. Hope to see her again soon.
Good luck and be safe!
I am not shure if anyone is aware of the new punnishment for mongers.
To fight prostitution, educate 'Johns'?
Courts turn attention to men paying for sex
MELISSA MANWARE
Staff Writer
Johns -- men caught offering women money for sex -- will soon be going to school after they leave the county jail.
Beginning in August, men charged with soliciting for prostitution in Mecklenburg County will likely be required to complete a class where they'll learn about sexually transmitted diseases, addiction and respect for women.
The idea is that it might be easier to change the men who pay for sex than the women who sell it.
"If we can convince these men they can't cruise around Charlotte looking for prostitutes, that could diminish the number of prostitutes working the streets," said Bruce Lillie, a prosecutor behind the effort. "If we take away that demand, the supply will dry up."
Men facing their first prostitution-related charge in Mecklenburg district court can get their case dismissed if they successfully complete the "john school," Lillie said. Judges can sentence others as part of their probation to attend the school, run by the McLeod Addictive Disease Center.
Right now, men with no record who plead guilty to soliciting usually get a suspended sentence and a fine, Lillie said.
Genny Kleiser, McLeod's operations director, said men who attend the school will be required to participate in weekly, two-hour sessions for five weeks. They will pay $220 to participate -- and take a mandatory HIV test.
Some other cities -- such as Norfolk, Va., Las Vegas and Nashville, Tenn. -- have john schools but Kleiser said Charlotte's will be different.
In other programs scorned wives and former prostitutes are brought in to shame the men. Charlotte's school will be more therapeutic than punitive, she said.
"We want them to identify why they are doing what they are doing," she said. "We want them to realize how dangerous it is."
McLeod has treated women accused of prostitution for 2 1/2 years. More than 20 women have graduated from the court-ordered intensive, 14-week program. But many more dropped out without completing it.
Kleiser and Officer Ron Simmons, who has spent years working with Charlotte's street prostitutes, say nearly all of them are drug addicted and carry sexually transmitted diseases. About half know they have HIV, Kleiser estimates. Many have been sexually abused or have mental health issues. They are poor, some homeless.
Simmons and Kleiser believe the therapeutic program for prostitutes has been a success, but admit the group is hard to treat. Less research has been done on johns, but they expect more success with that group.
Since September 2001, more than 250 men have completed a john school run by the Norfolk Sheriff's Office and none of them has been rearrested. In New York, more than 1,200 men attended a john school in the last three years -- and just two were rearrested, the Daily News reported last month.
Cleaning up streets just a start.
Charlotte's prostitution problem extends beyond its streets. Prostitutes also sell sex on the Internet and telephone -- they meet clients mostly at motels. But Charlotte-Mecklenburg police focus on street prostitution because it affects the people who live in neighborhoods and their property values.Johns who pick up women on the street, Simmons and Kleiser say, tend to be working men with jobs and families to lose. They are of all races. They pay anywhere from $10 for oral sex to $25 for intercourse and rarely use condoms.
It's impossible to know how many men buy sex in Charlotte because only a small percentage get arrested -- and because the charge is the same for both the buyer, the seller and men who solicit other men for free sex.
Between Jan. 1, 2004, and April 21 of this year, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police charged 225 men with soliciting for prostitution or soliciting for a crime against nature. A few of those charged were men selling sex to other men, and men accused of soliciting another man in a park or public restroom -- but the vast majority, police said, were johns.
A game of Russian roulette.
Last Wednesday, police officers posed as prostitutes on The Plaza near 36th Street and in fewer than three hours charged six men with soliciting them. At least two others approached them but left before the woman officers could make a good case.
After the arrested men were in handcuffs, Simmons, Kleiser and another McLeod employee told them about the john school and asked about their backgrounds:
They have blue collar jobs, except for the guy who said he was a UNC Charlotte engineering student. Their ages range from late 20s to mid 50s, and they are married, separated or single.
One married man said he has two grown children and a grandchild. Another said he had two children and a very sick wife. A 29-year-old said it was his second prostitution arrest this month.
They were mostly clean, decently dressed, average-looking. Most looked like they were headed for a nightclub. A few looked like they'd just mowed the lawn.
One of them made a call and told the person on the other end of the phone that he'd been in a wreck and would be home late.
"For the most part it's men with a lot to lose," Simmons said about johns. "And they are playing Russian roulette whether they know it or not."
Article in the paper outlined where John and Jane had run into Johnny L. recently and talked about a new John School, two hours a week for like 8 weeks or something.
A couple of laps around town indicated that some degree of seriousness was attached to the matter.
If you're a street monger be advised.
Happened to think something similar is taking place in the gashouse.
A buddy suggested not making the same loop twice.
There it is; based on the posting about the "John School" crap, it is safe to assume that an already bad hoe situation in Charlotte is just going to get worse.
What a shame! In a city with much bigger problems, they are allocating resources to fight something like mongering. When are they going to see the problems that should really be addressed?
It just me sick this bull corn of them trying to force their moral standards on me and those that share mongering just to get a BJ or even a HJ.
Be safe.
Tuesday Bob429 tells us of a wonderful encounter at 36th and Plaza. The next day THAT is the exact spot of the sting.
Uncle LEO is watching the board and guessing where there will be action.
I do NOT think it was a coincidence.
Let's watch how specific we are. Share with only secure contacts.
Mark
(edited to remove unjustified suspicion of a fellow monger. Sorry B!)
I can vouch for Bob429, he did not set anyone up, so it had to be #2 on your list unless it was just a coincidence.
If you read other boards, it seems to be a national effort. I am sure LE is reading this board and looking for action in those places. Good thing everything I have ever posted was a dream. It is also good to know that LE has all the car jackings, the murders, the home invasions, and the robberies under control that they can now start to concentrate on someone trying to get a little pussy or BJ. I feel so much safer now that they have the violent crimes under control, and they have all the maniac drivers taken care of too, the ones that will run over you if you aren't doing 40 mpg over the speed limit. Be careful out there, or just give up the hobby for a while.
Every twenty years or so Aunt Ellie gets the idea to start "john schools". It's a lot like drunk-driving school.
Seattle got one in 1980 or 81. You can tell how effective it is by checking the Seattle board. It has about 1,500 reports so far this year.
I was thinking of trying a new route in my quest for ladies of the evening.
starting with, Maryland Avenue then Cumnor Lane, Carlton Avenue, Winding Oak Drive, Dilworth Road West, Greenway Avenue, Valerie Drive, Kersey Court
Cavendish Court, Sharon Road and Linkside Court.
Or is this new route just a dream.
I sort of accept the edited version of your post Mark User..not much of an apology for an accusation, although I can understand your concern about the coincidence. But if we aren't posting our dreams, what good is it to say "saw a great little SW out last night..had a great time for $5...good luck to all you fellow mongers". What good is that?! But I can appreciate your comments, but done that way, no one becomes a trusted member. Anyways, thanks for the voucher NC Stick. Be safe to all out there!
I realize I'm just a lurker, but I believe poor Bob was victim of coincidence. Unfortunately there are some situations on this board that are not coincidence.
Two weeks ago, as I'm sure everyone knows, Trucker Hotel in Bennettsville, SC was busted. My grandfather took my Dad there for his right of passage. Well, to make a long story short, some regulars were using this board to arrange ameeting at Truckers. The night it was busted was the night the meeting was planned.
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I can also tell you Bob429 is legit...lets get back to some stories and pics.
Came to Charlotte on work last week and will be here till the next week. Last Sunday night visited Gashouse area and picked up a HSW on Franklin. Was a 7 on the SW scale and her attitude was also a 7-8. Said her name was Caroline and gave me her digits. The experience with her was good and not hurried. Only thing is keep your stuff in the car safe. :) She flicked my cigarettes, lighter and mints. Nothing major but still.
Since, overall it was not a bad experience, I went back there on Wednesday and tried to call her number and a man picked it up and said no one by that name lived there. :( Went around the area a couple of times and had no luck.
Went back today after work. Did not find any HSW's but picked up Renee (?) on Franklin and some cross street. She was like a 4-5 on the scale and certainly on her way down. The treatment was good and she said she generally walks around Franklin or Main.
If I see her again, will certainly pick her up.
Saw a lot of LE activity over there. At one time almost thought of quitting the search. Got lucky. That is what I can say.
I have read the forum in general and almost all the posts talk about SW's. Are there no AMPs in this vicinity?
I would prefer visiting AMP's rather than go to Gashouse and pick up SW's.
As I mentioned in the previous post, saw a lot of LE activity today and also last Wednesday.
This past Wednesday I also stopped at the hotel on Franklin thinking I may pick someone but a lady (I think the manager or his wife, looked like an Indian / Spanish) was driving away everyone with a flashlinght. She seemed very angry. I suppose the LE are leaning on them to clean up.
She was practically shouting.
Again any AMP's in the area? If you want PM me. I generally post all over the board as I travel a lot. If you need any info in Stamford / NY area you can PM me and we can exchange info / numbers.