Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

I just wanted to tell everyone that I so happy that this thing has taken off. I started this thread a year ago. It got off to a slow start. But finally it had picked up steam and taken off.

Like many of you have said, this is very rewarding.

I mentioned before that it is a little more work. Bit I have met MANY beautiful ladies through this process.

In most cases, I'm helping these girls. And unlike a lot of the professional providers I've seen, it seems as though these SB are using the help to benefit there position in life. And not spending it on drugs but paying for school or other bills.

Just want to thank you all for your input.

Your inbox is full. Thanks for offer of help.

[QUOTE=VoxDei;2671237]Your inbox is full. Thanks for offer of help.[/QUOTE]Try again! Same to others who tried tonight.

Tonight's SB lesson to myself. Make sure to have a hotel pre-booked when she has a roommate with kids. When she told me she had no bra or panties on, my first thought should have been hotels.com.

Indy Guy.

Definitely a little more work on the front end, but a veritable ever-changing smorgasboard of hot women of you are willing to put in the time and effort.

[QUOTE=Golfer72;2671600]Definitely a little more work on the front end, but a veritable ever-changing smorgasboard of hot women of you are willing to put in the time and effort.[/QUOTE]And with the way you been hitting that smorgasboard, you are going to be fatter than me in no time.

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=VoxDei;2669996]I have had some fair bit of luck in the bay area just messaging people saying I am in town for business often and would like to meet casually. I am trying to do the same for Indy. My experience seems to be that girls seem to respond at a much higher rate when you are clearly not from town and just looking for NSA and down for FC. I have 3 scheduled on a 2 day trip out there. With flaking ratio, I think I may close the deal with at least 1.

My question is around donation. All these are non-pros (I have seen their FB pages. Mostly single moms even when they are pretty young, early 20's) - usually they never discuss donation but I find that I need to meet local standards. I was thinking $150-$200. Just wanted to get you local bros opinions.

Thanks.

VD.

P.S. Please check out the Richmond thread if you haven; t arelady.[/QUOTE]You do have a good point. I'm visiting another state this coming weekend so I messaged about 10 in that city that looked like they might be game for getting down to business, 6 replied that they were up for a drink and then accompanying me back to the room. So now it's just a matter of choosing Of course I did say that I visit frequently and am looking for someone to meet up with everytime I'm in town. That makes them feel that it will be more than one time and keeps the allowance conversation at bay. I've found that if I can do that, and I work them a little over a drink, very few will say no to $150-200 cash if I want to move to FC right then.

I may change my city on my profile and start working that angle on those that don't know me on SA.

P.S. Just a warning, keep an eye out for the underage girls on there. I just came across my second one the other day.

So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA. I return it she is 23 part time school / work. I as k for her number so we can talk or text rather than use the site. She contacts me this morning and we talk and set up a m&g. She's in school til one no problem. I figure things are going great she is hot. Has no problem meeting up and talking. Now before I get really going I google number. It is linked to BP ads from Sept and Oct so I'm like yes. Young beautiful and ready to play. As we are getting to work out plans the next text is just so you know I'm not looking for play for pay and my time is valuable so I would expect some money for my time. WTF I got plenty if people to hang out with for free. Not sure what she is thinking from BP to just hanging out.

[QUOTE=Inndy1;2673898]So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA. I return it she is 23 part time school / work. I as k for her number so we can talk or text rather than use the site. She contacts me this morning and we talk and set up a m&g. She's in school til one no problem. I figure things are going great she is hot. Has no problem meeting up and talking. Now before I get really going I google number. It is linked to BP ads from Sept and Oct so I'm like yes. Young beautiful and ready to play. As we are getting to work out plans the next text is just so you know I'm not looking for play for pay and my time is valuable so I would expect some money for my time. WTF I got plenty if people to hang out with for free. Not sure what she is thinking from BP to just hanging out.[/QUOTE]This is an easy one. She is a part time student and has a job, so what type of job does she have? Minimum wage is $7. 25 / hr. Meet with her for a couple of hours over lunch or dinner. Pay the bill and let her know that you will apply the balance of what she owes YOU the next time you two meet! Let's see dining out at a mid range restaurant will run at least $50 with food, drinks and tip. 2 hours at $7. 25 = $14.50 so you will get a little over $10 off your first pay with play meeting. So if it takes 10 meetings with her to determine sexual compatibility then you're already $100 ahead!

Another option is to let her know you will be happy to pay her $100 to meet, however since time is money and you are a business professional your professional hourly billing rate is $150 hr. You wouldn't want to meet any longer than 40 minutes so you wouldn't have to charge her extra!

If the first two don't sound good then just say "Thanks for the offer to meet, but my time is more valuable than yours so I really don't think it would be gentlemanly of me to charge you to meet, so I will pass!

FF.

P.S. Unless she is covered in freckles then you can give her my number!

[QUOTE=Inndy1;2673898]So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA. Now before I get really going I google number. It is linked to BP ads from Sept and Oct. As we are getting to work out plans the next text is just so you know I'm not looking for play for pay and my time is valuable so I would expect some money for my time. WTF I got plenty if people to hang out with for free. Not sure what she is thinking from BP to just hanging out.[/QUOTE]If I can verify that the profile is a BP girl or UTR, I won't even bother. As you have discovered, they feel they can milk the same amount of donation for just hanging out. Let some other chump "take care" of her.

BTW, I received the same "hello" from her. She must be hurting for donations.

On a related note, good job on doing your homework and research with her. It will save you (most of the time) on funds / time / energy. Don't let anyone tell you its "stalking" or invasive. You are only protecting your own interests.

I recently was in talks with a potential SB, super cute and super young. Figured out her FB page and we had 2 or 3 "friends of friends" in common. I backed off and ceased communications. I don't need the drama. Several days later, I end up at a Halloween party at friend's condo in downtown Carmel. The SB shows up with her SO and I am there with my date. Talk about close call! I never sent her my pic so she didn't know who I was when I shook her hand. But the entire night I looked at her in a different way.

I still wanted to bang her. But now I am definitely not going to.

Do your homework and stay safe!

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2673961]This is an easy one. She is a part time student and has a job, so what type of job does she have?[/QUOTE]A Facebook search on her number shows that she works at Kroger. Your estimate on her hourly rate is likely spot on.

I've been texting with her as well, and also was aware of her previous BP posts. One of the primary reasons I have been speaking with her. She hasn't hit me up for any cost to 'meet' her yet, but if that happens I'll pass.

I joined SA based upon the feedback I saw in this thread, and have had a lot of interesting conversations and one solid hookup. Agree with the GPS issue I've read recently. Many of these girls act like they're on BP, but ask for much more than they're worth. Many of the girls I have communicated with should just stick to BP as only a fool with pony up $$$ or more to 'enjoy their company'.

While I first thought this was a prime hunting ground to find girls that provided BP type of relationships with a little less risk and much prettier faces, the absurd requests I'm getting have led me to the point of thinking this site is more work than it's worth.

Part of the fun of this hobby is having a plethora of different faces to choose from, and not getting bogged down with one person. Allowance? Pass. I need to get to know you better before giving you the good stuff. Pass. I don't want a wife. I want different faces every week, different experiences, different pussy.

Now, having seen pictures of Brittany Ann's amazing tits (small, which I like), I'm going to play this one out! If she asks for money up front, I'll happily refer her back to her last BP ad where she informed those readers not to contact her if the donation was less than. 6.

FQ.

[QUOTE=FqIdiot;2673983]
While I first thought this was a prime hunting ground to find girls that provided BP type of relationships with a little less risk and much prettier faces, the absurd requests I'm getting have led me to the point of thinking this site is more work than it's worth.[/QUOTE]This is EXTREMELY true. There is definitely more work involved and more GPS to sift thru.

I even laugh when the profile says "I am NOT a prostitute!" Yeah, ok honey.

But some of these fresh young college hotties are hot, hot, hot and broke, broke, broke.

I am meeting a 19yr old 5'9" blonde today for a cheap lunch. She is a 9 in my book. I would salivate for her if I just saw her walking by in public. And she keeps telling me how broke she is.

But therein lies the second problem here...the quid pro quo of not sharing here and keeping the GPS and cost down for each of us with our individual SB's. Assuming you go back for seconds.

It's a whole new game! I love it!

[QUOTE=Romeoinsd;2673995]This is EXTREMELY true. There is definitely more work involved and more GPS to sift thru.[/QUOTE]So update on my previous post. Just spoke with her, and the discussion was laughable.

I inquired about our first meeting, and what she was looking for. She informed me that she would first need to meet with me and we would mutually decide if we wanted to enter into a SB / SD relationship. Seemed reasonable. So I asked her expectations if we were to decide to move forward.

Her - "Well, to meet with me I'd want you to pay for that time. ".

Me - "Hmm, that seems odd. I mean, if I'm taking you to lunch to discuss whether we want to move forward, why would I pay you for that?

At this point, she's having a discussion with some other person that obviously was listening to our conversation. I could here this person attempt to explain the logic to her so she could explain it to me.

Her - "Umm, because you're the sugar dad. That's just how it works I guess. ".

Me - "So will you be paying me for my time as well?" (thanks FF for that one).

Her - "Umm, no because you're the sugar dad. ".

At this point I decided to not continue with the fun of the conversation. Remember, this chick was on BP a month ago offering services, and now she's expecting me to allow her to interview me and I have to pay her for that privilege? PASS.

I'm still chuckling over the absurd expectations some of these women have.

FQ.

[QUOTE=Inndy1;2673898]So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FqIdiot;2673983]Now, having seen pictures of Brittany Ann's amazing tits (small, which I like), I'm going to play this one out![/QUOTE]Inndy and FQ.

Do as you like but coming from someone that has been there and done that with her, don't BOTHER! First, she has a NASTY case of some psoriasis type skin condition. It is all over her body. Second, she sucks in bed. Third, she has an obvious pharmaceutical issue. Her pimp or dealer is never far away.

[QUOTE=Romeoinsd;2673995]This is EXTREMELY true. There is definitely more work involved and more GPS to sift thru.
It's a whole new game! I love it![/QUOTE]This is true. Keep in mind that if you got skill and can play the game right, the proverbial door (their legs) are wide open on a select group of them. I already have 2 girls on the hook that I am meeting and screwing and have yet to give them a dime other than dinner. Now, these are not the pick of the litter but not bad either. They are the supplement between meeting and working on the real hotties. The SA game is also a choice or preference over other ways and means. In many cases, meeting an SA lady may cost more but it is also not a HHR or HR and see the door. Most of these ladies are willing to spend multiple hours with you if you like. My personal pick of the litter is a little more than an HR with an escort but we spend half a day together and will play as long as my heart can take it.

Some mongers may not be willing to put in a little work or do not want the extended visits. For those types of hobbyists, SA may not be the way to go. Another advantage of the meet and greets is that you get to the real thing and generally costs no more than lunch or coffee.
[QUOTE=FqIdiot;2674027]At this point, she's having a discussion with some other person that obviously was listening to our conversation. I could here this person attempt to explain the logic to her so she could explain it to me.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you just got validation of the pimp/SO.
Indy Guy

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;2674069]The SA game is also a choice or preference over other ways and means. In many cases, meeting an SA lady may cost more but it is also not a HHR or HR and see the door. Most of these ladies are willing to spend multiple hours with you if you like. My personal pick of the litter is a little more than an HR with an escort but we spend half a day together and will play as long as my heart can take it.[/QUOTE]That's exactly why I joined that site. I'm tired of transactions, and that all there usually was on BP or other sites. I've enjoyed the company of a lovely young lady currently attending Ball State, and to your point her expectations are typical but you get much more out of the time. I enjoy that, but the games you have to play with some of these girls to get to that point can be exhausting.

I'll continue to spend time with this lovely lady as her expectations are reasonable, and try to find some others to add to the mix. Part of the fun is the hunt, and there are definitely a lot of very attractive women in college to go after here. I'll stick to the recommendation to avoid any that have had previous BP ads. Additional searches on FB have kept me from even continuing conversations with most.

FQ.

[QUOTE=FqIdiot;2674281]I've enjoyed the company of a lovely young lady currently attending Ball State, and to your point her expectations are typical but you get much more out of the time. I enjoy that, but the games you have to play with some of these girls to get to that point can be exhausting.[/QUOTE]The BSU reference offers up another thing I have quickly learned. There are plenty of young coeds in the Indy area, but there is also many more SD. If you are ready, willing, and able to venture out of town to one of the local large schools, there are many more of them and less potential suitors. This applies to the coeds and regular ladies as well. I currently have a Boilermaker seemingly courting me instead of the other way around. 10/10 may be too low for her. When venturing into other towns, it is also nice to have friends in low places.

Golfer,

Wouldn't you concur? .

Indy Guy.