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30 minute session. 15 minutes of decent back / leg / ass massage with plenty of teasing. Flip, opted for BBBJ. She spends a couple minutes cleaning me up. I was freshly showered and smelling good so I think this is just her being safe and thorough. I appreciated it even more once she got started. She started one of those slow "girlfriend on your birthday" blow jobs. It was fantastic. Caught every drop, spit out after. Absolutely will be repeating.
[QUOTE=XandirHunt;7542227]Went by again Saturday morning and still no sign of activity. You guys did say Bobo is supposedly back, right?[/QUOTE]The door and online state that they open at 9:30 am. My only time to monger is early morning so I'm always the first one at any place I visit. If someone has beat me there then I move on. I've seen Bobo enough to know that she kinda marches to the beat of her own drum and opens whenever she wants. It is usually not a 9:30 either. Haha I saw her a couple of wks ago and texted the number on the door and asked about opening early. I can't confirm it was her that responded (vs a handler) but she did open early. 9:28. For the poster that said something about being closed on a Friday afternoon, since she's the only one there maybe she had things to do and didn't open until much later or just stayed closed that day. I wouldn't put it past her to do so.
[QUOTE=Badass05;7542277]Been there day before yestersay, As per julie she mentioned she was only one working there rn. Wonder who this young provider is.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was Saturday at about noon.
[QUOTE=LunchboxHero;7542522]30 minute session. 15 minutes of decent back / leg / ass massage with plenty of teasing. Flip, opted for BBBJ. She spends a couple minutes cleaning me up. I was freshly showered and smelling good so I think this is just her being safe and thorough. I appreciated it even more once she got started. She started one of those slow "girlfriend on your birthday" blow jobs. It was fantastic. Caught every drop, spit out after. Absolutely will be repeating.[/QUOTE]I always go freshly showered but this 'clean up' is standard for most spas. They're using alcohol wipes or sanitizer wipes, which is why it feels so cold. It'll kill any bacterial issues and possibly more. Bacterial infections are a main reason gals will smell funky down there and at that point they'll need antibiotics to clear it up. Soap residue can also cause issues for the kitty, so if a guy hasn't rinsed well, this addresses this as well. As far as how much it helps the well known STDs, who knows, that's why a condom is used.
Nobody talks about regular bacterial infections but promise they suck. The can make your balls hurt like you've just had a vasectomy and it's caused by nothing more than common bacterias getting into kitty or your urethral canal and wrecking havoc.
Some advice, don't shave before going, that alcohol wipe down will burn. LOL.
Thanks for report. I love a GFE BBBJCIM. What was tip damage?
[QUOTE=NuttinHappened;7542577]I always go freshly showered but this 'clean up' is standard for most spas. They're using alcohol wipes or sanitizer wipes, which is why it feels so cold. It'll kill any bacterial issues and possibly more. Bacterial infections are a main reason gals will smell funky down there and at that point they'll need antibiotics to clear it up. Soap residue can also cause issues for the kitty, so if a guy hasn't rinsed well, this addresses this as well. As far as how much it helps the well known STDs, who knows, that's why a condom is used.
Nobody talks about regular bacterial infections but promise they suck. The can make your balls hurt like you've just had a vasectomy and it's caused by nothing more than common bacterias getting into kitty or your urethral canal and wrecking havoc.
Some advice, don't shave before going, that alcohol wipe down will burn. LOL.
Thanks for report. I love a GFE BBBJCIM. What was tip damage?[/QUOTE]50 for room. 120 for BBBJ.
Had to just check it out due to senior references.
Looks wise she is round in the face and probably in her 50's. Body is around an average chubbier build with bolt on C's. Not very "curvy", but not obese. Not my personal taste, YMMV.
But on the performance scale she's probably 8-9/10.
Extremely clean with zero smells, other than a small hint of food when she stuck her tongue down my throat.
Massage was pretty decent. Medium / Hard mixed pressure, with a quick walk on the back at start. Oil etc. Small amount of tease.
On the flip, DATY, CFS and BBJCIM.
She really gets into once she busts her first squirt, but keeps apologizing for "too much water". Paid. 5 for hhr and $. 3 for donation. Probably in there for around 50 minutes. 10 minutes towards the end a monger came in and she asked me to speed it up. So I asked her for BBJ and she let me unload before spitting into a tissue.
Would not repeat, but I would recommend to anyone that is intrigued.
Remember, she's not a looker, she is a performer (not in the bad actor way).
Do not go in there thinking she is a young buck with model looks. Just accept the price of the ride and tick it off the bucket list.
Been several months since I stopped by the Mountain, and I decided to see if anything was new there.
Rang the bell and was pleasantly greeted by a little petite gal, with a pretty face -I'd estimate late 20's maybe 30.
She had on a cute dress, and some very nice curves that had me interested in more than I planned.
Was pleasantly surprised when things were uncovered that she was well endowed in a natural way.
Top dropped and they were some of the best large naturals I've had the pleasure to have pleasure with.
Everything else was wonderful as well, super clean, super fun, and enthusiastic.
Will return, hope she sticks around.
FF70.
[QUOTE=LunchboxHero;7542522]30 minute session. 15 minutes of decent back / leg / ass massage with plenty of teasing. Flip, opted for BBBJ. She spends a couple minutes cleaning me up. I was freshly showered and smelling good so I think this is just her being safe and thorough. I appreciated it even more once she got started. She started one of those slow "girlfriend on your birthday" blow jobs. It was fantastic. Caught every drop, spit out after. Absolutely will be repeating.[/QUOTE]Reply was Julie doesn't work there any longer.
[QUOTE=Cocknee;7542793]Had to just check it out due to senior references.
Looks wise she is round in the face and probably in her 50's. Body is around an average chubbier build with bolt on C's. Not very "curvy", but not obese. Not my personal taste, YMMV.
But on the performance scale she's probably 8-9/10.
Extremely clean with zero smells, other than a small hint of food when she stuck her tongue down my throat.
Massage was pretty decent. Medium / Hard mixed pressure, with a quick walk on the back at start. Oil etc. Small amount of tease.
On the flip, DATY, CFS and BBJCIM.
She really gets into once she busts her first squirt, but keeps apologizing for "too much water". Paid. 5 for hhr and $. 3 for donation. Probably in there for around 50 minutes. 10 minutes towards the end a monger came in and she asked me to speed it up. So I asked her for BBJ and she let me unload before spitting into a tissue.
Would not repeat, but I would recommend to anyone that is intrigued.
Remember, she's not a looker, she is a performer (not in the bad actor way).
Do not go in there thinking she is a young buck with model looks. Just accept the price of the ride and tick it off the bucket list.[/QUOTE]I know there's no way to really read all the posts, but I left one recently describing her as "if you squint, she's kinda alright". LOL she does make up for lack of hotness with her attitude and willingness to please for real tho.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe08;7543095]I know there's no way to really read all the posts, but I left one recently describing her as "if you squint, she's kinda alright". LOL she does make up for lack of hotness with her attitude and willingness to please for real tho.[/QUOTE]I actually remember that post now that you've reminded me. It made my day with that sentence LOL.
She is honestly a really nice woman and a pleaser. I just can't go back as there are so many more out there that need attention.
[QUOTE=Cocknee;7543295]I actually remember that post now that you've reminded me. It made my day with that sentence LOL.
She is honestly a really nice woman and a pleaser. I just can't go back as there are so many more out there that need attention.[/QUOTE]Dude, I agree 100%.
And so little time (and money). Haha.
Stopped by after reading FastFish's post. I'm not a huge AMP person but after reading he encountered big naturals I couldn't resist. Walked in and was greeted by a really nice looking girl. She had on a short dress with plenty of cleavage showing. I saw the big tits and immediately knew this was who FastFish reviewed. Decent visit except getting interrupted twice in my 30 min visit. This was a bit of a turn off. The first interruption was 2 guys together which was weird. They have a small monitor in the room showing the front door. Said her name is Nina and I may visit again. The interruptions kind of killed the mood and felt rushed. She has a really nice body with nice natural C cups.
Decided to try this place out. Older lady for sure. Probably late 40's early 50's. Average body. She has a tattoo on her left shoulder. Small b cups. A little pudgy but not bad. Overall 5/10 MILF. She did have a hairy Bush.
The massage was OK. Not too strong of pressure but very thorough. On the flip everything was offered. Tried to negotiate to 1. 5 for everything settled on 1. 4. She offered choice of wrapper or no wrapper included in price. BBBJ was good. Kitty smelled fresh and was pretty tight. She did kiss pretty good and didn't rush. Did multiple positions before I busted. Overall damage was 2. 1 because hh is. 7 now. It was worth it. Not sure I would return but it was a good experience.
Here is your chuckle of the day.
I was reading an ad on an AMP website, maybe that agency copied 'DATY' from another AMP ad, created their own literal translation:
"Dinner at the YMCA".
Photo mid bottom has been stretched!
Sophia is fit and trim, NOT skinny!
For those who want a very good massage and nice L1, I recommend Angel North. Their main objective is to give you a good massage and that is what you will get. They are pleasant, cheerful and courteous ladies. The spa is located in a busy strip mall just South of 86th St. and has been there for many years, safe area.
Met Nina first thing this morning as they open earlier than many. Wasn't sure of her name but when she opened the door in a tiny t-shirt type dress I figured it had to be her. Short af too. No more that five foot. As reported, really nice naturals. Massage wasn't bad but wasn't there for that. . 6 for hr. $. 4 for the fun. Everything was covered including the BJ. I asked if she would wait but she seemed disgusted by that idea. For what it's worth, I arrive freshly showered, clean, and well groomed. She wanted no part of BBBJ. Oh well. No smells and smooth as silk down south. Probably in her 40's and is pretty cute. Has a big long tatt horizontally across her midsection that may be hiding a scar? Idk. She looks great on her back with her tiny little legs on my shoulders. Couldn't finish with cover so I yanked it off used some lube on myself and put some on her. She starts flippin' the bean and bam that was all she wrote. Blew a nice one on her stomach. On the way out I saw what appeared to be a new arrival as she had a roller bag suitcase with her. Her transportation (I'm guessing one of you guys) was coming in thru the back door. Like previous report, I too was interrupted twice. Happy I got there when I did and my curiosity has been cured for now.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe08;7543874]Met Nina first thing this morning as they open earlier than many. Wasn't sure of her name but when she opened the door in a tiny t-shirt type dress I figured it had to be her. Short af too. No more that five foot. As reported, really nice naturals. Massage wasn't bad but wasn't there for that. . 6 for hr. $. 4 for the fun. Everything was covered including the BJ. I asked if she would wait but she seemed disgusted by that idea. For what it's worth, I arrive freshly showered, clean, and well groomed. She wanted no part of BBBJ. Oh well. No smells and smooth as silk down south. Probably in her 40's and is pretty cute. Has a big long tatt horizontally across her midsection that may be hiding a scar? Idk. She looks great on her back with her tiny little legs on my shoulders. Couldn't finish with cover so I yanked it off used some lube on myself and put some on her. She starts flippin' the bean and bam that was all she wrote. Blew a nice one on her stomach. On the way out I saw what appeared to be a new arrival as she had a roller bag suitcase with her. Her transportation (I'm guessing one of you guys) was coming in thru the back door. Like previous report, I too was interrupted twice. Happy I got there when I did and my curiosity has been cured for now.[/QUOTE]I almost went there today too, wish I had LOL. Good report I wish more people who read our reviews would drop reports.
What does her time with Uncle have to do with her massage business?
Happened to be in the area so I thought I'd check it out.
Ste C4's door was unlocked, so I stepped in and called out "Hello! Several times. No answer.
Nothing indicated there was any type of massages going on.
I remember Cindy, I believe she was from Hong Kong.
Sexy lady, small amount of passable English. Great massages, but I never got more than L1.
Miss her!
I posted an update and I guess it didn't go through. Anyway. Shelbyville will no longer have younger AMP MILFs as the spa was sold and candy will not return. On the other hand I went to checkout mountain aire and saw the woman that was described a couple reviews below. She looked to be 55 and not my type. She is stocky and heavier but she does in fact have huge breasts. I will say I have seen many Indian guys two man the girls. They pull up in one car and either take turns or do it at the same time. I can't stand the smell trail they leave behind as it smells like gyms mixed with onions! Anyway haven't seen any other new talent that catches my attention recently.
[QUOTE=Rnorton217;7544580]I posted an update and I guess it didn't go through. Anyway. Shelbyville will no longer have younger AMP MILFs as the spa was sold and candy will not return. On the other hand I went to checkout mountain aire and saw the woman that was described a couple reviews below. She looked to be 55 and not my type. She is stocky and heavier but she does in fact have huge breasts. I will say I have seen many Indian guys two man the girls. They pull up in one car and either take turns or do it at the same time. I can't stand the smell trail they leave behind as it smells like gyms mixed with onions! Anyway haven't seen any other new talent that catches my attention recently.[/QUOTE]You have exceeded stored private messages.
[QUOTE=Rnorton217;7544580]Shelbyville will no longer have younger AMP MILFs as the spa was sold and candy will not return.[/QUOTE]Candy was a fucking treat. I wish the drive was shorter bc I'd drive a long way to see her but not that far. Didn't know she sold store but heard rumor she might. I checked TopSpa day after Mia left. I asked for Mia, knowing she had left, and started to leave. The lady was average looks and older, she wasn't too thrilled with me stopping in telling me there are young pretty girls at the other stores. I thought Lisa brought in better talent than Candy put in the store.
Well, ummm, I know the girls at the other stores in town and I just said nothing and exited. There's no reason to make the drive down there anymore, imo. Unless you want an uninterrupted hour. Probably guaranteed at these stores. Lineup hasn't changed at the other 4 since end of year.
Yeah candy was real good. Wish I tried BBFS with her. She seemed like she could do anything. Anyway I cleared up my inbox if anyone was trying to send a PM.
I just got off work and figured I had enough time to check out Mundy before meeting some friends before dinner. I typically get my L1's at still waters. From my research, I've seen reports that $. 4 is the hhr and FS or even a CBJ is $. 4. I paid. 5 for hhr. Kitty is cute. I thought the accent was a little thicker than expected and I had a hard time understanding. Maybe it's my first time there or maybe it was later in the day but she asked for $1 for extras and that's fine but I only brought $1. 2 because of prior reports. Needless to say, I had a very expensive L1 and for a little more, I could've gotten better through DI or GH.
Planning on stopping in Indy soon. Wondering if there is a provider that would be preferred for a titjob finish?
I was just wondering if anybody had any new info or updates on Jen at Mojo they could share.
[QUOTE=Cdr44;7545635]Planning on stopping in Indy soon. Wondering if there is a provider that would be preferred for a titjob finish?[/QUOTE]Julie- angel spa at Emerson should be first choice. But be aware of traffic during peak hours and on weekends. She is known for her tit job and nuru. I'm not sure if she's giving nuru now.
[QUOTE=Rnorton217;7544580]I posted an update and I guess it didn't go through. Anyway. Shelbyville will no longer have younger AMP MILFs as the spa was sold and candy will not return. On the other hand I went to checkout mountain aire and saw the woman that was described a couple reviews below. She looked to be 55 and not my type. She is stocky and heavier but she does in fact have huge breasts. I will say I have seen many Indian guys two man the girls. They pull up in one car and either take turns or do it at the same time. I can't stand the smell trail they leave behind as it smells like gyms mixed with onions! Anyway haven't seen any other new talent that catches my attention recently.[/QUOTE]One of the mamasan from the Heathrow spa mentioned that Due the ongoing immigration issues, it is harder to find younger providers as they are not ready to travel. Makes sense as it has been long time I got to see some one young. Anyways, talking about it, I could manage to find relatively younger providers at lucky sunshine spa at meridian. Both tall ladies, would like being referred as cici and Alina. Thin and enthusiastic. Didn't get to receive service though. They seemed sweet and around 25 27. Let the forum know if someone's mongering there.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=ServiceSeeker;7545683]I was just wondering if anybody had any new info or updates on Jen at Mojo they could share.[/QUOTE]Shut down for now. Unsure if or when she will be back up.
Dave.
[QUOTE=Badass05;7545800]One of the mamasan from the Heathrow spa mentioned that Due the ongoing immigration issues, it is harder to find younger providers as they are not ready to travel. Makes sense as it has been long time I got to see some one young. Anyways, talking about it, I could manage to find relatively younger providers at lucky sunshine spa at meridian. Both tall ladies, would like being referred as cici and Alina. Thin and enthusiastic. Didn't get to receive service though. They seemed sweet and around 25 27. Let the forum know if someone's mongering there.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Stopped by this afternoon and the two working were mid 30's + didn't stay.
[QUOTE=Badass05;7545800]One of the mamasan from the Heathrow spa mentioned that Due the ongoing immigration issues, it is harder to find younger providers as they are not ready to travel. Makes sense as it has been long time I got to see some one young. Anyways, talking about it, I could manage to find relatively younger providers at lucky sunshine spa at meridian. Both tall ladies, would like being referred as cici and Alina. Thin and enthusiastic. Didn't get to receive service though. They seemed sweet and around 25 27. Let the forum know if someone's mongering there.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Been there yesterday. I had good luck at this spot last month, as Angela from Angel spa worked last month. Rode there after work to try this month's rotation. May be you've seen another provider but Alina seemed to be 30+. C bolts. Tall lady. Took hhr paid house fee, was in a mood to only have l1. She has a decent back. I realized she didn't wear her panties as soon as the massage started. Rub was good. Started with a butt massage and the pressure was really good. By the time, my hands were allover gliding her ass. She understood the assignment and asked what she can do to serve junior. English is oKOK BTW. Initially, thought of settling only on HJ, but she pushed me to have BBj. She seemed pleasing and enthusiastic and couldn't say no, Paid. 120. Her BJ skills are good, she started off by kissing and licking around junior and got onto tip. She knows what she's doing and I like it. Finished by hand. Let me know if someone finds luck with CIM. Didn't try though.
Didn't have a chance to see other girl.
I don't really think it's immigration now. If you take a look at the Chicago forum Apt girls they are getting a ton of hot Japanese ladies. These are top tier jav girls. I got to see some in California and damn they're a million times better than the talent we have here in Indiana! Also. I did checkout sunshine and both girls were in their late 30's or mid 40's. One of them had a terrible attitude and the other sas really nice but had a butter chubby face so I did not stay.
Apologies for providing half baked information and wasting your time regarding sunshine. I have seen them while they are all dressed up and in lounge area. I should have provided a proper info after trying them.
Immigration- may be mamasan was only talking about indy exclusively. Even I had a solid experience with Apt girls (J, Vietnamese) in Chicago but it was back in Dec. And Jan.
Had a visit at Lucky Sunshine Spa. I saw 2 girls. Cici was thin with C cups and a flat stomach extremely pretty girl. Alina was tall, C cups, a little thicker and pretty too. Both girls were young and ready. Both started with a b2 b massage that felt really good. Both were paying attention to detail and it wasn't too hard or too soft. Played down below when I got the chance and both didn't mind. On the flip both gave a deep BJ. I was really surprised and excited they could do that. Both asked for mish and doggy and took their time since all 3 of us were enjoying ourselves. Finished in bag. Will definitely repeat.
Hate re-writing a report bc it didn't load, so sorry for a quickly written attempt at a rewrite.
Heard new talent and couldn't resist. Greeted by 5 ft nothing, 105 lbs younger 30's sex kitten from Beijing, nice full Bs, well-enhanced and almost could pass for real if they matched that thin frame of hers. Like 30-32 Bs, imo, that some of you might think are Cs. Her body is tiny but healthy looking, she's got some shape. Took hr bc you rarely get interrupted at these spas. Took light which equals her running fingertips everywhere. After about 5 min, she hopped on table between my legs and teased under the hood for another 5 or more. Plenty of teasing, loved it Asked me 'what he wanted'. Well, he want the boom boom. Leaves to get cover, I'm sitting on table with feet on floor and she gets on knees between them. Slowly takes me in her mouth and I instantly know this will be a good session. Got me rock hard and puts cover on while spitting saliva in napkin, so I'm going to guess BBBJCIM isn't available but money talks, YMMV, I didn't ask. CBJ in this position for awhile and asks me how I want her. I'm a mish guy so lay down, girl. She pumps two squirts of lube in her hand and covers me with it. Much preferred over coating the kitty. That little body and shaved kitty looked nice and since she didn't cake icing the kitty I'm taking a dive. She enjoyed it as a warmup then felt like she flipped to acting so I'm waiting and yep, she requested for main event. I'm ready too so let's go. Took it well but grip is firm. Felt like tight kitty that's been purred a couple times today. Not like 9 am, first time of the day tight kitty, still good squeeze from lips to bottom. Vocal, and lets me position legs in different angles. Bottomed her out, held it and moaned, she put hand over my mouth. Asked if I came, nope not yet. Legs over my shoulders for awhile then back down and picked up pace. She asked for it hard and she took it. Blew in bag pushed against her cervix and stayed there. If no condom she'd be getting direct fertilization, no swimming required, boys. No rush to get me out. Damn it felt good released and buried inside of her. Pull out while she grabs me and spreads her legs and opens her lips and says 'you break pussy' several times with a smile on her face. I mean, it still looks pristine to me, so you're welcome?? Hee hee.
If you miss talent Top1 brought, she fits the bill, imo. Early 30's, tight little body, nice titties and shaved gorgeous kitty. Looks, she's not Candy or CiCi formerly at muffler but on par with most. She's pretty, imo. Not as round and flat faced as many Asian gal, I really like my round-faced Chinese girls so, tastes very but I don't think anyone going to complain about this one. She's better looking than Mia formerly at Top1 (Charm), imo, again eye of beholder. She's not Mia thin either. Damn that gal was a skin and bones. Which BTW, Mia wouldn't tell me where she was headed before she left, I assuming out of state.
She's here for about a month and is a no nonsense I'm here to make money, so go give it to her. $. 7 $1. 6. We talked about 15 min and her English is great. Didn't use translator once. For you Ella fans, I think she's just on vacation. Ella is the sweetest MT I've ever met, but if ya want that younger little Asian hooker, that town has one again.
Idk what's up with D Spa. It was closed for a couple of days then open then closed tonight. If any of ya from there could provide more info, that'd be cool. D Spa used to be decent and I really hope she sold it bc she was the worst service ever and she knows I don't want to see her bc if I stop in first thing she says is 'it's only me' and mean mugs me as I smile and tell her thank you. LOL.
Come on, guys. Get some reports on here. Talking to you lurkers.
[QUOTE=Rnorton217;7546198]I don't really think it's immigration now. If you take a look at the Chicago forum Apt girls they are getting a ton of hot Japanese ladies. These are top tier jav girls. I got to see some in California and damn they're a million times better than the talent we have here in Indiana! Also. I did checkout sunshine and both girls were in their late 30's or mid 40's. One of them had a terrible attitude and the other sas really nice but had a butter chubby face so I did not stay.[/QUOTE]This cannot be said loud enough. When I talk about an MT being attractive, I'm talking in context of the talent in Indy. The talent Chicago has, or NY, LA etc, is just whoa. Japanese, Vietnamese bombshells that drop total PSE and GFE on ya. I'd be homeless in a year if we had true 9's and 10's around. We say 7/10 or 8/10 but if you flooded the MTs with Chicago talent, especially the Apt girls, we'd be dropping our opinions to 5/10 or lower quickly. Put one of these gal at Muffler and the line going to back up traffic on 465.
[QUOTE=NuttinHappened;7547438]This cannot be said loud enough. When I talk about an MT being attractive, I'm talking in context of the talent in Indy. The talent Chicago has, or NY, LA etc, is just whoa. Japanese, Vietnamese bombshells that drop total PSE and GFE on ya. I'd be homeless in a year if we had true 9's and 10's around. We say 7/10 or 8/10 but if you flooded the MTs with Chicago talent, especially the Apt girls, we'd be dropping our opinions to 5/10 or lower quickly. Put one of these gal at Muffler and the line going to back up traffic on 465.[/QUOTE]Indy doesn't have good seafood, either. Unless you pay $$.
[QUOTE=MasterSneaks;7545353]I just got off work and figured I had enough time to check out Mundy before meeting some friends before dinner. I typically get my L1's at still waters. From my research, I've seen reports that $. 4 is the hhr and FS or even a CBJ is $. 4. I paid. 5 for hhr. Kitty is cute. I thought the accent was a little thicker than expected and I had a hard time understanding. Maybe it's my first time there or maybe it was later in the day but she asked for $1 for extras and that's fine but I only brought $1. 2 because of prior reports. Needless to say, I had a very expensive L1 and for a little more, I could've gotten better through DI or GH.[/QUOTE]You know if anything else is offered at Still Waters? I've been once and got a topless HJ. Curious if BJs are on the table there.
Had a great one hour massage with Coco this morning. Met Katy a couple times last year. Both are great! Coco is pretty head to toe!