Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=TomTigers;3961026]Do not ever bring up with a stripper "You did my buddy Johnson" for X, I want the same price!" Doing this is stupid, like showing your cards, keep that info private- it will screw over your friends deal, she won't be trusting, and sure as hell won't want be trying to give you a deal. Discuss pricing here, or only or with close confidants. Think about it, do strippers tell you how they lowball each other? No, not ever. As others have indicated, pricing varies by the date and whatever. I can't tell you how many dancers have done me a favor on cost, then said "Don't tell anybody about our deal". Do I care if if she gave the same package to some other guy for $5 less? No, I got the deal that was negotiated for.[/QUOTE]I've been kind of watching this thread and wanted to add my two cents. If you know anything about what a girl may or may not do with someone else or get for doing a particular action, absolutely don't share it with her.

I learned my lesson the hard way about two years ago. I'd published a number of detailed reviews, complete with actions and pricing and I'll be damned if it didn't fuck things up for me. Whether it's vets or lurkers, guys will go back to these girls and tell them what they know and / or even show the posts to the girl. At one point in time, I was very open about everything and happy with sharing information but when that got around, it was a problem. One girl in particular, who was awesome, stopped seeing me altogether. Even when I see her at the club now, she won't go back with me.

When word gets around that you're sharing detailed information and pricing on a board, other girls who may have previously considered going back with you, just won't do it, because they don't want that information out there and it fucks up their money. If they're trying to get $200 for something and a guy comes back with "I know you do such and such for x", and how you know that. Maybe they didn't want to go below "x" price with you and the guy who gets that great deal is a regular that has seen her many times. It harder for her to justify raising the price for you to do it for her and you can be damn well sure that it's gonna be a problem for the regular who's been getting that deal.

A lot of the girls read these boards and why wouldn't they? They're curious about what's being said about them, what they do and the pricing they do it for and it's valuable leverage for them, if they're negotiating. Additionally, you have to understand that most of these girls have boyfriends who they are lying too, telling them that the stuff on the boards is bullshit and they don't do what's being said, when, of course, they actually do. In my experience, this isn't an uncommon thing. No girl wants to get into extended fights about this stuff with their significant other to continually reassure them that it isn't true or fuck up their relationship because of it.

To get back to the original quote: "Do I care if she gave the same package to some other guy for $5 less? No, I got the deal I negotiated for" is absolutely true for me as well. When I go back with a girl after making a deal, if she keeps that deal, doesn't rush me, doesn't try to upsell me and the experience is good, I will see her repeatedly and she'll make thousands off of me, over time.

My deals are now completely private with me and the particular girl that I have that deal with, unless she chooses to share it with someone else.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;3969129]DB,

I have heard that explanation many times before and never have found it be true. Negotiate, Persuade and choose the next girl.

I do sometime pay up if I want a particular girl but I make sure she is worth it.

MM.[/QUOTE]Nobody wanted to negotiate. But guess what? As already mentioned, it's a buyer market. If everyone of those b's go home broke, shame on them. I'll keep my money in my pocket because they need me more than I need them.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;3971145]It seems that the girls are trying to raise the floor on the pricing a bit, whether by design or just deciding to do so on an individual basis. Now, that's fine if they can get it but I'm not going for it....for 10-15 minutes in a shabby back room in a strip club. Granted, this hasn't applied to the ones I've seen multiple times before but lately, it seems most of those girls have moved on to wherever....It doesn't take a genius to see that traffic at the clubs is down, so it's more a buyers market and I'm offering reasonable pricing. They can either take the reasonable pricing and make that money or they can refuse it and get nothing. That's fine too but you have to have money to pay rent, utilities and buy food.[/QUOTE]Spot on assessment. I agree, I ain't paying top dollar for a back room barely the size of a small closet, and somebody wanting $200. I can go on-line and find a decent escort for that price. You are so right, the great ones that charged reasonable prices are long gone. Hell, if a girl went "way above and beyond," it was no sweat on me to tip and extra $20-$25. Now I didn't do that all the time, but the opportunity was there if they wanted to work for it.

Anyway, way too much GPS is going around right now. I fly back to Detroit on business one-two times a month. But I don't mind keeping my money in my pocket if these girls refuse to budge. Hell, I can go to Toronto or Montreal every couple of months and get an outstanding escort for $450/2-2. 5 hours, have the young lady come to me and get everything I want. And the girls in Detroit strip clubs don't come even close to the caliber of the Canadian girls.

So yeah, let them keep playing hardball. But I suspect with the holidays coming up, and a long cold winter, many of them will change their tune. But for my dollars, it maybe too late.

What are the best clubs for a Monday, near the airport. I have been to lost of these over the years but rarely early in the week. I am flying in and only have Monday to stop in one. Which would have some better girls to choose from.

Today afternoon went to Bts. There were 8 to 10 girls in the 6 to 8 range. Anyways I decided to go in VIP with a girl who is white tall slender with thick brades for 1. 3. In the VIP she started with a horrible CBJ and vigorously stroking my little guy with her hands to get me on. But I don't do well with CBjs especially rushed ones. I told her to give a little BJ but would not listen and continued. It was the 3rd song when I got frustrated and told to stop and I said I'm done I will donation for 3 songs as suggested by other colleagues on this board. But she called the bouncer and told him that I need to give her more. The bouncer is an ahole started bullying and forcing me. I told him I will give 4 songs and that's it. I gave. 1 and left.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;3973096]Today afternoon went to Bts. There were 8 to 10 girls in the 6 to 8 range. Anyways I decided to go in VIP with a girl who is white tall slender with thick brades for 1. 3. In the VIP she started with a horrible CBJ and vigorously stroking my little guy with her hands to get me on. But I don't do well with CBjs especially rushed ones. I told her to give a little BJ but would not listen and continued. It was the 3rd song when I got frustrated and told to stop and I said I'm done I will donation for 3 songs as suggested by other colleagues on this board. But she called the bouncer and told him that I need to give her more. The bouncer is an ahole started bullying and forcing me. I told him I will give 4 songs and that's it. I gave. 1 and left.[/QUOTE]JM,

That is terrible.

What was her name so I can be sure to avoid her.

MM.

I spent 2 nights in Detroit.

Night 1 BTs.

The girls that I can remember working were;.

Nadia - 8 - 24 years old.

Harley - 6.

Cheyenne - 7 - 24 years old has slimmed down, mom.

Duchess - 5.

Bella - 7.

Charmain - 8 talked with her but she never suggested VIP.

Jessica - 7.

Alexia - 8 - 19 years old.

Bambi - 8.

Arielle - 5, 22 years old, mom, had a nice talk with her but declined VIP, it was her first night in the club she typically works in Grand Rapids.

Summer - 6.

Mina - 7 - 21 years old.

Destiny - 7.

Victoria - 4.

I took Bella to the VIP, this was my 4th session with her and it was great. Would repeat again.

I took Bambi to the VIP, this was my 2nd session with her and it was poor. My first session was very good. Although I believe she had a lot more to drink last time and she was pretty sober this time. I would maybe repeat with her. It depends on who else is working, and my perception of her sobriety level.

Night 2 BTs.

The girls that I can remember working were;.

Harley - 6.

Mika - 4.

Milan - 21 year old, track athlete, I did 2 sessions with her, first one was good, second one was not. Did not speak with her tonight.

Cheyenne - 7 - 24 years old has slimmed down, mom.

Duchess -5.

Luna - 7, 23-years-old different Luna than I reported on before.

Summer - 6.

Jules - 7 - 18 years old, Iraqi ethnicity.

Jade - 7 - 19 years old, Korean and Native American.

Bella - 7.

Nikita - 8 - 25 years old, mom.

I took Bella to the VIP, this was my 5th session with her and it was great. Would repeat again.

I took Jules to the VIP, she informed me she had her period, session was good, but she was inexperienced and quickly got tired dancing. It was not a bad session and I would repeat with her.

Had a good long talk with Jade and planned to take her to the VIP, we reached agreement on specifics of VIP, but could not agree on price. I felt it better to not go than to over pay. She did not go to the VIP one time that night.

Cheyenne stopped to talk with me, pushed hard for VIP, I declined when I heard her prices, although I am guessing she would negotiate but I didn't try.

Luna came by to talk. She was wearing a cat costume complete with puffy white tail, Cat ears in her hair and cat eyes drawn on her face. She had many tattoos including a big tree on her back. She offered VIP, but we couldn't agree on specifics. My buddy took her for some very nice dances.

It will be at least a month until I am back in Detroit. When I return my plan is to go to BTs and I hope that Bella is working that night.

MM.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;3973096]Today afternoon went to Bts. There were 8 to 10 girls in the 6 to 8 range. Anyways I decided to go in VIP with a girl who is white tall slender with thick brades for 1. 3. In the VIP she started with a horrible CBJ and vigorously stroking my little guy with her hands to get me on. But I don't do well with CBjs especially rushed ones. I told her to give a little BJ but would not listen and continued. It was the 3rd song when I got frustrated and told to stop and I said I'm done I will donation for 3 songs as suggested by other colleagues on this board. But she called the bouncer and told him that I need to give her more. The bouncer is an ahole started bullying and forcing me. I told him I will give 4 songs and that's it. I gave. 1 and left.[/QUOTE]I'm very sorry for what happened to you, but I thank you for confirming what I figured was going to happen. BT's Dearborn is officially off my list.

As far as being strong armed by the bouncer, you're a better man than me. What was the bouncer going to do, beat you up? Inform him that unless he showed a bill stating you owed the bar money. If not, I've left. Oh yeah, call the police and tell them I didn't finish paying the young lady for a sex act? Could he understand no more liquor license if a complaint is filed with the city along with the state liquor commission and he the bouncer is promoting pandering?

I bet he'd let you go in a heartbeat.

First let me thank you guys for the info you provided. Someone actually recommended I go to collosium if I was looking for a nice selection of phat asses. A friend of mine in Detroit suggested Pantheon and I followed his advice. Was in Detroit for 3 days for a conference. I had never been there before so I wanted to check out the scene. I was looking for a black club where I could find some big phat black asses. I placed a call to a friend who used to live in Detroit and he recommended this spot. I was definitely satisfied with the talent there. Arrived around 11 pm. It was crowded but not unbearable. Dances were $10 a piece. I danced with three chicks. 1 tall brown skin, not much ass but huge tits. 1 shorter dark skin nice phat ass. 1 shorter light skin with a huge phat bubble ass and it was real. She was BAD. They have a VIP but I'm not sure how "open" it is. By the time I got a lay of the land and found someone that I would take back there (phat bubble ass) it was close to closing time. Anyway it was a good time. I would return.

Don't remember her name. But she has small boobs with pierced nipples. Has a little baby fat with some stretch marks. Thick hair brades which is unusual for a white girl.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;3973180]JM,

That is terrible.

What was her name so I can be sure to avoid her.

MM.[/QUOTE]

Ya good point, but in that moment I just wanted to get out of the place. The worst part is the bouncer charged. 2 for VIP tax and still acted like an Ahole. I told him it's 3 songs but he asked the girl what was the real deal and then forced me to give all the agreed amount. Never experienced such bs in any other club, BTs is no go from now on for me where they don't respect the customer on top of the ridiculous VIP room charges.

[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3973325]I'm very sorry for what happened to you, but I thank you for confirming what I figured was going to happen. BT's Dearborn is officially off my list.

As far as being strong armed by the bouncer, you're a better man than me. What was the bouncer going to do, beat you up? Inform him that unless he showed a bill stating you owed the bar money. If not, I've left. Oh yeah, call the police and tell them I didn't finish paying the young lady for a sex act? Could he understand no more liquor license if a complaint is filed with the city along with the state liquor commission and he the bouncer is promoting pandering?

I bet he'd let you go in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3973325]I'm very sorry for what happened to you, but I thank you for confirming what I figured was going to happen. BT's Dearborn is officially off my list.

As far as being strong armed by the bouncer, you're a better man than me. What was the bouncer going to do, beat you up? Inform him that unless he showed a bill stating you owed the bar money. If not, I've left. Oh yeah, call the police and tell them I didn't finish paying the young lady for a sex act? Could he understand no more liquor license if a complaint is filed with the city along with the state liquor commission and he the bouncer is promoting pandering?

I bet he'd let you go in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]Due to what we've recently seen on the board, this isn't an isolated incident and apparently, there are at least a couple of dancers working in collusion with the bouncers to shake down guys for more money. Either the owner doesn't know or he's in on it and hopefully, it's the former, rather than the latter. It's been a very long time since I've been to BT's but there's no way I'd go to this club now.

Just a curious question more than anything as I am a SA guy myself. I drive down Michigan Ave often and notice many more strip clubs than what is talked about on this board. Some of them look not to bad on the outside. Just curious as why they are not ever talked about on the board?

[QUOTE=Natefarwell;3974149]Just a curious question more than anything as I am a SA guy myself. I drive down Michigan Ave often and notice many more strip clubs than what is talked about on this board. Some of them look not to bad on the outside. Just curious as why they are not ever talked about on the board?[/QUOTE]Might help if you name the clubs you're talking about.

[QUOTE=RollingStoner;3974702]Might help if you name the clubs you're talking about.[/QUOTE]The ones that are talked about on this site are always BT, Cricket, FC, and Bogarts. When going East towards the city I have seen many others. Not sure of the names per say but one is Pentathlon (I Think), One was only topless that has glittery shit on its sign. Another I think was called Island.