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Bogarts was a bust (12:00-1:00). Four dancers of which DeeDee was pick of the litter.
So off to Cricket I go. +12 dancers of which 7-8 were young slender cute girl-next-door type. Kyla stopped by, short chat, and off we go. I suspect she is later 20's but could pass for 21-22. Slender brunette with Bs and nice tight ass. Back in VIP a some grinding & roaming hands then the pants drop and a great BBBJCIM. No drama. Highly skilled. Very much want to repeat.
[QUOTE=Tractorman;3967707]Bogarts was a bust (12:00-1:00). Four dancers of which DeeDee was pick of the litter.
So off to Cricket I go. +12 dancers of which 7-8 were young slender cute girl-next-door type. Kyla stopped by, short chat, and off we go. I suspect she is later 20's but could pass for 21-22. Slender brunette with Bs and nice tight ass. Back in VIP a some grinding & roaming hands then the pants drop and a great BBBJCIM. No drama. Highly skilled. Very much want to repeat.[/QUOTE]Can you share how much this cost? I will be going to cricket next week.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3965589]The change I was met with is now girls want higher prices for services. One told me management said they're "changing too low" for services. I took that as a crock and the chick wanted to justify what she charging. Apparently she talked to all the girls because everyone wanted the same price for the same service.
No way![/QUOTE]I was at BT's this weekend and had a brunette with nice natural tits think her name was Harley provide a good GFE session for $120. Couple hours later I had my eye on a Latin type brunette nice large ass said her name was Cary or Carly told me it was $150 for FS I said since when she said it's been that way for a while I said it's always been $120 was able to talk her down to $130. I think I'll try Coliseum the talent looks better.
So. I'm new to this seen and have a few questions. What do you guys wear (cloths wise) to the clubs? Do you always order a drink? Do you wait for the girls to come to you usually? I've only been to a strip club 4 times. So yeah, I'm a big time newbie.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3965589]The change I was met with is now girls want higher prices for services. One told me management said they're "changing too low" for services. I took that as a crock and the chick wanted to justify what she charging. Apparently she talked to all the girls because everyone wanted the same price for the same service.
No way![/QUOTE]DB,
I have heard that explanation many times before and never have found it be true. Negotiate, Persuade and choose the next girl.
I do sometime pay up if I want a particular girl but I make sure she is worth it.
MM.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3965607]Normally I'd chime in and say that management wants a more hands off approach to what goes on in the VIP but my view has changed on that recently. Buddy of mine took a girl to the VIP at a club, negotiated a good price and everybody was happy and parted ways. That is until another girl came over and told him the time he spent in the VIP and the service he got should have been for 'x' amount more. Then the bouncer was brought over who told him 'yes, you owe her more money' which he refused to pay. Then the manager was brought over. Its the intimidation factor, they are choosing to back up their employee's who pay them a tip out vs the customers who don't come to the club as often.[/QUOTE]SL,
That is terrible, I would be very upset if that happened, and probably wouldn't back there for a good long time.
MM.
[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;3966837]Which one?[/QUOTE]JTS,
Sorry I was talking about BTs Dearborn.
[QUOTE=Aussie695;3968778]So. I'm new to this seen and have a few questions. What do you guys wear (cloths wise) to the clubs? Do you always order a drink? Do you wait for the girls to come to you usually? I've only been to a strip club 4 times. So yeah, I'm a big time newbie.[/QUOTE]A6,
Wear what ever you want. I see guys in all different kinds of clothing. Personally I don't like getting a hard on in jeans or tight slacks. I wear looser pants.
I always order a drink, sometime more than one especially if I am in need of fluid replenishment. Normally the waitress is over to take your order shortly after you sit down, and she will checking with you a few times during you visit. Especially if she is bored or you are sitting with a girl.
You absolutely can wait for the girls to come to you. These will usually be the more aggressive and most in need of money dancers. I don't know what kind of girls you like. I have specific type that I like. I find the girls who approach me, maybe 1 out of 10 is my type.
However the simple solution is if you see a girl that you like. You may do any of the following;.
1. Wait for her to go on stage, tip her a dollar and tell you like the way she looks and ask her to come and sit with you. It is important that you ask.
2. Tell your waitress or the shot girl that you like a particular dancer and they will go and get her for you. If the waitress is busy with other customers you may have trouble getting her to do this, and if she does it, it is polite to give her a tip. The shot girls have to buy their tray of shots and if they don't sell them they lose that money. They are highly motivated to get a particular girl to your table if you tell them you will buy the blond girl in the blue bra a shot if the shot girl can get her to come and sit with you.
3. If you see a girl you like just walk up to her and ask her to come join you. She normally will if she by herself or with other girls. If she is working on a guy she may not as she has already invested time into that guy and she wants to make it pay off. Of course a big enough tip might incent her to come over anyway. You may also upset the guy she is sitting with if he thinks she is there for him. The vast majority of the time the girl will leave that guy with in a few minutes and come over to sit with you.
Sometimes no matter what you do a girl doesn't want to sit with you. Maybe you remind her of her boyfriend, her brother, her dad, whatever. Strippers in general are flaky, but if you don't have to have a certain girl you will definitely have some girls approach you.
Since you are a big newbie, you may not care about which girl you go to the VIP with and the ones who approach you may be just fine. If girls think you will not go to the VIP they talk among themselves many girls will not approach you.
Some of my best times have been when I had a favorite girl that I took many times and she would often talk with me about the other girls I liked and told them, this guy likes you and I like going to the VIP with him. So you should go and give him a try. That was really nice of her and helped me get some of the best girls in the club.
As always YMMV.
MM.
[QUOTE=RollingStoner;3964185]I'm not saying having more info is a bad thing, I'm saying 9 times out of 10 when a guy asks what a chicks menu and rates are he's asking here because he was too scared to ask her himself. The hobby can be a little intimidating for some, they don't feel comfortable asking how much to suck and fuck, and they sure as hell don't know how to negotiate.
Something tells me you could go into any strip club in any city and negotiate a deal without a cheat sheet, right? I say that because you sound like a seasoned monger.[/QUOTE]I can, yes. But I gained the majority of my knowledge on this board reading fellow mongers and understanding what a good price is at each club in this area. I've had the ridiculously funny high ball offer of $400 FS at Hustler once back in 2010 when I first started really going to strip clubs. The cougar wasn't even a 6. But if I'm new to this how am I suppose to know that's a rip off. We also need to all stick together before these prices get out of hand. I also don't want to run the price up for the next guy. If they don't pay their bills on time they will eventually start to all cave.
The prices at this place have gone through the roof. Couldn't get anywhere trying to negotiate last night. Was quoted 400-500. Was told they raised the tip out recently, there is a VIP tax now, and the girls have to pay a $70 fee per shift if they go in the back. The per song dance charge is now $30. This used to be my favorite place, now I need a third job just to drive by.
[QUOTE=TDisregard;3969699]The prices at this place have gone through the roof. Couldn't get anywhere trying to negotiate last night. Was quoted 400-500. Was told they raised the tip out recently, there is a VIP tax now, and the girls have to pay a $70 fee per shift if they go in the back. The per song dance charge is now $30. This used to be my favorite place, now I need a third job just to drive by.[/QUOTE]I hear $30 per song is the new rate. And a $20 fee to use a VIP room. If you want extras, the per song rate should not apply, but negotiate a flat fee including the $20 room fee. Of course, you must be willing to walk if the fee is too high. If you just want dances, what is to stop the girl from charging $20 per song? How will anyone else know? Keep negotiating!
[QUOTE=Qetuo;3969797]I hear $30 per song is the new rate. And a $20 fee to use a VIP room. If you want extras, the per song rate should not apply, but negotiate a flat fee including the $20 room fee. Of course, you must be willing to walk if the fee is too high. If you just want dances, what is to stop the girl from charging $20 per song? How will anyone else know? Keep negotiating![/QUOTE]I'm sure with the some Detroit clubs shying away from extras, the FC has not only raised the VIP price but the dancers tip out too. Since the bar counts the number of songs each dancer does she might not be willing to give you a discount. Also if it got back to management she might even lose her job her job for undercutting the other girls (dances or extras). And don't forget they all pinky promise in the dressing room, AKA the stripper union.
[QUOTE=TDisregard;3969699]The prices at this place have gone through the roof. Couldn't get anywhere trying to negotiate last night. Was quoted 400-500. Was told they raised the tip out recently, there is a VIP tax now, [b]and the girls have to pay a $70 fee per shift if they go in the back[/b]. The per song dance charge is now $30. This used to be my favorite place, now I need a third job just to drive by.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it's more like $200 or more, especially if she's doing extras. Think about it, even if she's making $300 a pop and only goes back there 3 times that's $900. Do you really think the club is only going to tax her $70?
[QUOTE=Nes86;3969529]I can, yes. But I gained the majority of my knowledge on this board reading fellow mongers and understanding what a good price is at each club in this area. I've had the ridiculously funny high ball offer of $400 FS at Hustler once back in 2010 when I first started really going to strip clubs. The cougar wasn't even a 6. But if I'm new to this how am I suppose to know that's a rip off. [b]We also need to all stick together before these prices get out of hand. I also don't want to run the price up for the next guy. If they don't pay their bills on time they will eventually start to all cave[/b].[/QUOTE]Never and I mean NEVER will happen. Unfortunately there are a lot of men out there with a disposable income. They could care less about keeping prices down, they want it and they will pay anything to have it. There are 10 times more of them in a VIP club like FC, PHC, Coli, etc, then guys like you or I that can negotiate a good deal.
It seems that the girls are trying to raise the floor on the pricing a bit, whether by design or just deciding to do so on an individual basis. Now, that's fine if they can get it but I'm not going for it.
There have been a couple who have offered to accept my standard pricing but only if it's quick (like a two song limit), which I declined and some who just want laughable prices. At least in my opinion. For 10-15 minutes in a shabby back room in a strip club. Granted, this hasn't applied to the ones I've seen multiple times before but lately, it seems most of those girls have moved on to wherever. So, what do I do? I have a couple of drinks and conversation and leave. I can go to another club or I can go home. I don't have a problem just leaving, if I can get what I want for what I'm willing to pay.
It doesn't take a genius to see that traffic at the clubs is down, so it's more a buyers market and I'm offering reasonable pricing. They can either take the reasonable pricing and make that money or they can refuse it and get nothing. That's fine too but you have to have money to pay rent, utilities and buy food.