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[QUOTE=HarryMcHardon;7297898]Been out of the game for a couple years and looking to get back in. So being prudent, I'm RTFF'ing to catch up with the latest in the bowl and SA. Specifically opsec / scammers / facial recognition.

I've always had almost 0 internet presence, no FB, no Insta, nothing related to my job etc, etc. I do have a linked in but never have posted a photo. A couple hobby clubs I've been in show me in group photos that are taken somewhat far away to get 6-10 people in the pic. That is a total of maybe 4 pics on the internet, with limited detail. So I believe my risk of being I'd'd from a face photo is limited. (Feel free to dispute would like to hear if I'm whistling past the divorce courts LOL).

Today I ran a couple of my face pics through Facecheck for the first time and did not get any hits. Didn't surprise me. But I have a couple questions that I can't find by RTFF.

1.) Do you need the paid service to get all the possible matches? I had no hits on page one but there are many other pages that I would need to pay to see. . When you run your pic to make sure your face doesn't come up on these sites, do you all just view page 1, or do you pay for the more exhaustive list?.[/QUOTE]I haven't been on the sites much lately, but the way results come out, the best matches are first. Each match has a numerical value. At the top of the page, they list the likelihood you have actually found the right person based that value. It usually drops off quickly. Later pages are poorer matches.

To get hits of yourself off their site, you do not need to pay.

You may have a more creative solution than mine, which is just dots over the key parts of my face. Once you have made whatever you like, you can check it on the sites, to make sure that it doesn't come back to real pix of you.

One other thing you could do. Use the facial rec sites to find someone who it thinks look a lot like you. Then you send that to a POT instead of anything that is really you. I have one of these doppelgängers. You could even find someone who is a little better looking than you, or better dressed. My profile pics are of someone I was told a long time ago I look like, who is famous in my (narrow) hobby, and is often pictured in coat and tie. That fits my vibe though. I often get POTs who comment how much they love a well-dressed man. Sorta goes w / the vibe of seeking.

BTW, I cut off the top of the head of the other guy's photos, as if the photos are really me and I am trying to stay under the radar. That also immunizes me somewhat from complaints from POTs that I have fake pics. It might be tempting to send your real pic to a girl through the site, there is the ability to delete a photo you have sent so they can't access it anymore. However, the site could compare what you sent to what is on your profile, and if they don't agree, suspend your account. I lost one seeking profile this way.

Seeking just send out new terms of service, and what they say about fake info is very clear. If you use it you can be booted. This puts high value on old profiles, that I think are sorta grandfathered in. Don't do anything to get one of your old profiles banned, you will regret it if you are trying to stay discreet. I would be surprised if there would be much scrutiny of older profiles that have been on the site without problems.

Q for you guys: do you think it is considered appealing to SBs to drive a flashy car like a Ferrari or McLaren? It seems to me that there are two potential downsides: 1) you might attract more pros instead of actual SBs and 2) SBs might expect more sugar since you have more money. What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7302817]Q for you guys: do you think it is considered appealing to SBs to drive a flashy car like a Ferrari or McLaren? It seems to me that there are two potential downsides: 1) you might attract more pros instead of actual SBs and 2) SBs might expect more sugar since you have more money. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Can you imagine trying to do car dates in the hood in one of those? I remember a way long time ago in Newport Beach this civi guy was chiding me for spending $'s on seeking telling me I never spend money to get pussy as he was leaning against his 250 k ride. Some of the fondest memories I have on seeking were those car dates in my pick-up or my ancient bmw. The good old days.

There is a guy on tiktok constantly bragging that he scores dozens of girls on seeking because he has a 20 k a month bach pad, etc, etc. Letting them know he is this rich guy with everything they could ever dream of. He says they buy him gifts just trying to get next to him. He sees them for a date or two or more and then moves on and claims he "never pays". Could be some truth to it.

A very successful SB told me long ago that no girl cares how much you have. But only how much you are willing to spend. That seems the closest thing to the reality of it to me.

In my case I do all my negotiating (on txt) before ever meeting them and say very little, they have no idea where I live, what I drive or what I do for a living. It's basically irrelevant. Any chit chat prior to meeting is only going to be based on my personality and their personality / looks and of course how much I am willing to spend per date. I never talk about sex except to let them know it's expected and if need be what the bare minimum is. And if all I get is the bare minimum well then maybe that's a one off date but that's a risk I am willing to take.

When, where and how much. The 1st date is like an interview that may turn into a temp/permanent position or not. So guys... keep the chat to a minimum and stick to the basics.

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;7302817]Q for you guys: do you think it is considered appealing to SBs to drive a flashy car like a Ferrari or McLaren? It seems to me that there are two potential downsides: 1) you might attract more pros instead of actual SBs and 2) SBs might expect more sugar since you have more money. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I recall a famous 60 Minutes episode, I think it was with Morley Safer, where he covered the Lambo Countach. Some Italian guy he interviewed said the obvious. 'You only ever see a beautiful woman get out of a Countach'.

I am pretty honest about my assets on the site, but some girls might expect more of me. My explanation, which is true, is that having a SO prevents me from accessing all of that discreetly. So I give moderate sugar, along the lines of most here. I think there are some POTs who like that I am well-off even if that doesn't translate to more sugar for them. They expect to get some intangible benefits from being w / me, along the lines of sophistication, knowledge and experience. Lots of them like to talk arts and culture, travel, etc.

HG, you know everyone here worships your contributions, including me. The phrase 'we're not worthy' comes to mind. And we know the fantastic success you've had, using your methods. There's absolutely no BS in your reports. However, it is also worth noting that your methods work well for you but might not for many others here. In particular, you have zero concern about getting exposed, you have no SO, and you have (in the past at least) hosted SBs. Those things could never be done by a lot of the guys reading here. So we have to develop our own methodologies.

Lotsa complaints on here (LA and other threads) how the bowl ain't what it used to be etc. I just finished a month membership and deactivated. I have sufficient actual SBs and POTs for a while. I think I FCed two new ones this month. One an absolutely smoking hot MILF, pretty as a movie star, great skinny Pilates / yoga body, blond, well-done MMs, great in bed. I gave her 5 for the first time and I could have her as much as I like at that level. She would like twice a week meetings, because she likes the sex, but of course she also likes the dough. That's the top of my range.

I have another one who really got hooked when I took her phone and videoed her BJ. Now she is suggesting all sorts of things she wants to video.

I have several prospects still on the site, but I am confident (because they are so really truly skittish) that I am the only guy they have met. I have a free week coming up and hope to have successes to report. I have high standards, they really have to be pretty to make the juice worth the squeeze.

I have gotten two different instances of POTs booty calling me. I was unable to respond because I have a SO and can't go bopping out late in the evening for no good reason.

I am not Brad Pitt, I am 60's, but tall, and smart, and treat people nicely. I am amazed at some of the success I have had, and know if you play the game correctly (for yourself), you can really have incomparable experiences. Memories I'll take to the grave.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7302994]There is a guy on tiktok constantly bragging that he scores dozens of girls on seeking because he has a 20 k a month bach pad, etc, etc. Letting them know he is this rich guy with everything they could ever dream of. He says they buy him gifts just trying to get next to him. He sees them for a date or two or more and then moves on and claims he "never pays". Could be some truth to it.[/QUOTE]Mind sharing this TikTok handle? Could be interesting to see.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7303540]HG, you know everyone here worships your contributions, including me. The phrase 'we're not worthy' comes to mind. And we know the fantastic success you've had, using your methods. There's absolutely no BS in your reports. However, it is also worth noting that your methods work well for you but might not for many others here. In particular, you have zero concern about getting exposed, you have no SO, and you have (in the past at least) hosted SBs. Those things could never be done by a lot of the guys reading here. So we have to develop our own methodologies.[/QUOTE]That is a smooth way of putting homeboy down gently! You are a true gentleman. The irony is the wealthier a person is able to project themselves, the more free perks and money people will give you. That is why all the scammers targeting lonely ladies all pretend to be rich and successful business men.

SLN Girl Camille 19.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Melody/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RanManCan;7305496]Mind sharing this TikTok handle? Could be interesting to see.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to transition away from ppm / allowance and onto "spoiled girlfriend" approach. Ie, no quid pro quo.

I just got a 25 yr old little hottie to eagerly agree to meet for zero. Wish me luck!

I want to see this tiktok of the "guy constantly bragging that he scores dozens of girls on seeking because he has a 20 k a month bach pad", mostly because I want to replicate it, without being so flashy.

[QUOTE=RanManCan;7306345]I'm trying to transition away from ppm / allowance and onto "spoiled girlfriend" approach. Ie, no quid pro quo.

I just got a 25 yr old little hottie to eagerly agree to meet for zero. Wish me luck!

I want to see this tiktok of the "guy constantly bragging that he scores dozens of girls on seeking because he has a 20 k a month bach pad", mostly because I want to replicate it, without being so flashy.[/QUOTE]I have a bowl buddy who gets girls off seeking who he 'commits' to and has long-term affairs w / no to minimal sugar. Like maybe a gift (not $) once a month. He likely has "Chad" good looks, he's 40's, and he is a super nice person. He picks a girl in a city he has regular business travel to. He obviously has the right radar to detect someone interested in this scenario. He does maintain his anonymity, though, as he has a family. Not everyone is in a position to replicate this, just like not everyone has a 20 K / mo pad.

New SLN Girl Mia 26.

[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Miaventura/[/URL]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;7292465]The problem with any major website is that if the web developers don't find something to "improve" they are out of a job.[/QUOTE]Reply to an older post-I think they are again under regulatory scrutiny for the P4 P that goes on. So get rid of all references to money and allow obese women to not have to confess to being CURVY anymore. Just my opinion, there are new regulators in office now.

[QUOTE=PantyPatrol1;7309549]Reply to an older post-I think they are again under regulatory scrutiny for the P4 P that goes on. So get rid of all references to money and allow obese women to not have to confess to being CURVY anymore. Just my opinion, there are new regulators in office now.[/QUOTE]They got rid of references to money back in 2018 when the FOSTA act was enacted. And rebranded to a luxury dating site and the name change. It's just to do "upgrades" as they see fit. The only site I know of that still uses terms such as PPM and allowance is Sugarbook. But they're not based in the US like Seeking is.

As far as overweight / obese women labeling themselves curvy. I've never seen them as that. Large, big and bbw are better labels. For me curvy has always been a woman that is within her healthy body weight vs height. But has big tits, hips / ass and the slender waist. So I welcome the change to providing actual weight. I've asked some women in the past what their height / weight was. When their pics weren't the best.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;7309664]They got rid of references to money back in 2018 when the FOSTA act was enacted. And rebranded to a luxury dating site and the name change. It's just to do "upgrades" as they see fit. The only site I know of that still uses terms such as PPM and allowance is Sugarbook. But they're not based in the US like Seeking is.

As far as overweight / obese women labeling themselves curvy. I've never seen them as that. Large, big and bbw are better labels. For me curvy has always been a woman that is within her healthy body weight vs height. But has big tits, hips / ass and the slender waist. So I welcome the change to providing actual weight. I've asked some women in the past what their height / weight was. When their pics weren't the best.[/QUOTE]No, the references to money I was referring to come from the 2025 decision to eliminate "net worth" and "income" sections of the profile, not any direct P4 P references. Seeking wants you to post photos of your ferrari and a selfie of you asking for Grey Poupon instead of bragging about your income / net worth with monetary figures.