OC Vietnamese coffee shops

[QUOTE=BenderOver;6308984]95% to 100% are dtf but the issue that isn't do they do it or not, it's a matter of is cost at a level worthy to discuss.

Probably 3% are under $500.

Another 80% are between $500 and $3000 (likely towards the higher range).

The rest are over $3000.

Rich sugar daddy's are always welcome to apply.

I'm largely speculating here with a pinch of experience, and if you think I'm wrong, feel free to opine. Not looking for flames.[/QUOTE]Bender is pretty much spot on. Most if not all girls are down to fuck, with about 1% not being down to fuck no matter how much you throw at them. I have fucked Kayl* from 269, Elen* from 168, and Ann* from 168. If you gather up the amount of money I have spent on tips plus the amount of money it actually took to get them to meet outside of the cafe, on the low end you are looking at approximately 8 K and on the high end the most expensive came in just shy of 22 K. All together I have spent around 36 K for those three endeavors.

Money aside you are also looking at a pretty big time investment. In my situation I had to get them to be comfortable enough with me to sit with me before I even brought up meeting outside. Then you still have to go through with all the BS of hanging out with them outside to get them comfortable enough to go back to your place. After that you still have to give them a generous tip to convince them to fuck.

Of course my situation is a lot different than most, I'm old and fat so I know for a fact that I'm paying more than most. The only way I can see someone fucking these girls for less is if you are relatively young, fit, and financially comfortable. Even then I would still expect to pay minimum around 1 K if everything goes well. That's including tips, dinner, etc.

At the end of the day it's like Bender said how much did you want to invest into this? It's definitely doable but unless you're in a situation where you have time and money to burn you're honestly better off seeing a K-girl. Plus these cafe girls honestly suck at fucking when you compare them to k-girls.

Cafe's should honestly just be a place for you to hang out and see some young hotties that you wouldn't normally see at most strip clubs. From what I have seen cafes have the hotties who don't want to "stoop down" to working at a strip club but won't admit that cafes are basically a mild version of that LOL. I pretty much go to cafes to see some hot Japanese and Vietnamese chicks, cause those are pretty hard to run into at your generic strip club. Plus I have a thing for tatted Vietnamese and Japanese chicks.

Another way that I like to use it as, a buildup to a massage or k-girl session. If you're old like me and you need the buildup before your appointment you'll understand haha. Nothing worse than fucking a hottie raw and not being able to stay hard. Getting old sucks man, if only I had money when I was young.

To summarize, go to cafes to see some young hotties. Don't expect anything out of it unless you’re willing to burn a lot of money and time. Also keep in mind that you’ll have to tip well and go semi often if you want the girls to consistently sit with you/hang out with you.

[QUOTE=Eblit26;6331836]Hello Everybody,

I recently had a chance to revisit 168 for the first time in a quite a while. Was happy to see that not much has changed. Most of the waitresses are quite pretty and there's usually one or two stunners. Maybe my favorite thing about this shop are the brief table to table dances that happen every now and then. From what I remember, only a few girls do it and it happens pretty irregularly. Still, I don't think any other shop has anything like this so its a nice treat when you are lucky enough to catch it. I did on this last visit courtesy of a cute latina (Does anyone know if more standard lapdances are available here? From reading this board, I gather that some of the other shops have started offering these. Which is a nice surprise since these weren't really a thing when I was visiting a few years ago).

168 has historically been my fave of the shops, but I'll likely do a round of them all in the coming months to see what has changed. I'm curious, what is everyone else's favorite shop and why?[/QUOTE]DD Cafe.

Just ok. Nothing super special about it. Relatively tiny though so it is nice when it's not busy and you're the only guy there haha. Never had any issues with crazy amount of second hand smoke. Best one at posting update on Instagram so you know who to expect when you walk in. From what I have seen this location tends to have the least amount of Vietnamese / Asian chicks.

Cafe 269.

Some decent looking cuties. In my opinion this cafe has the best lap dances, full songs and if you want privacy the girls will take you to the very back where it's pretty much a 1 on 1 with you and the girl. Girls here are pretty open minded as well and are the most willing to meet after work if your willing to put time / money into it.

Starz Cafe.

Nothing memorable, always dead when I go. Wouldn't really recommend.

Cafe Dang.

Best to get some actual work done. Decent Wi-Fi and relatively clean / bright. Girls mostly hangout by the back and do the occasional show. You will probably get interrogated on what you do for work. Not much touching / sitting with you at this location, mostly just occasional shows. This location also tends to have the most stereotypical hot Vietnamese ABG girls with tattoos if that's your thing.

Cafe Lu.

Best one hands down if you are looking to just talk to girls. The amount of times I have gone during the day and the girls end up only talking to 1 or 2 regulars their entire shift is too damn high LOL. Good for people like me who frequent cafes a lot but this is probably the worst one for noobies. The girls don't even bother doing shows most times and usually it's just 1 or 2 girls working during the day.

Cafe 168.

Best blend of everything. Semi private area for lap dances. Nice variety of shows fairly consistently. Good for regulars and noobies although regulars definitely get preferential treatment unless it's dead slow. Girls will come and sit with you even if it's your first time assuming you're tipping well. Nice blend of ethnicities and types when it comes to the girls.

Personally I would say if you're new and looking to get your feet wet cafe dang is probably the best one to just get your feet wet. Since no touching or lap dances are involved and girls don't really bother to sit with people you can get the whole concept of how cafes work without burning through too much money.

Best one if you're just looking to relax is cafe Lu, if you're a regular. Talk to a girl for a bit and then she will just lay her head on you. You do your thing she does her thing. She might even take a nap with you if it's dead slow.

Best one long term is 168. Initially you won't get much out of it being new but as they recognize you, you'll get a lot more time with the girls. This has the best eye candy but also the easiest to burn through money besides 269.

Best one if your a horny mofo is 269. Get all the lap dances you want and girls are pretty open minded to meeting outside of the cafe. I have gotten every girls contact at this location after one lap dance. Expect to pay alot though for the pleasure of fucking a cafe hottie.

Does emma still work at DD?

[QUOTE=FriskyDoc1975;6338493]Bender is pretty much spot on. Most if not all girls are down to fuck, with about 1% not being down to fuck no matter how much you throw at them. I have fucked Kayl* from 269, Elen* from 168, and Ann* from 168. If you gather up the amount of money I have spent on tips plus the amount of money it actually took to get them to meet outside of the cafe, on the low end you are looking at approximately 8 K and on the high end the most expensive came in just shy of 22 K. All together I have spent around 36 K for those three endeavors.

Money aside you are also looking at a pretty big time investment. In my situation I had to get them to be comfortable enough with me to sit with me before I even brought up meeting outside. Then you still have to go through with all the BS of hanging out with them outside to get them comfortable enough to go back to your place. After that you still have to give them a generous tip to convince them to fuck.

Of course my situation is a lot different than most, I'm old and fat so I know for a fact that I'm paying more than most. The only way I can see someone fucking these girls for less is if you are relatively young, fit, and financially comfortable. Even then I would still expect to pay minimum around 1 K if everything goes well. That's including tips, dinner, etc.

At the end of the day it's like Bender said how much did you want to invest into this? It's definitely doable but unless you're in a situation where you have time and money to burn you're honestly better off seeing a K-girl. Plus these cafe girls honestly suck at fucking when you compare them to k-girls.

Cafe's should honestly just be a place for you to hang out and see some young hotties that you wouldn't normally see at most strip clubs. From what I have seen cafes have the hotties who don't want to "stoop down" to working at a strip club but won't admit that cafes are basically a mild version of that LOL. I pretty much go to cafes to see some hot Japanese and Vietnamese chicks, cause those are pretty hard to run into at your generic strip club. Plus I have a thing for tatted Vietnamese and Japanese chicks.

Another way that I like to use it as, a buildup to a massage or k-girl session. If you're old like me and you need the buildup before your appointment you'll understand haha. Nothing worse than fucking a hottie raw and not being able to stay hard. Getting old sucks man, if only I had money when I was young.

To summarize, go to cafes to see some young hotties. Don't expect anything out of it unless youre willing to burn a lot of money and time. Also keep in mind that youll have to tip well and go semi often if you want the girls to consistently sit with you/hang out with you.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your openess and point of view about this type of venture. You bring up a lot of good points. I get the thrill of the hunt some of the guys have on the forum with the coffeeshop girls, as well as strippers. Generally speaking most of these girls think a bit too highly of themselves to "lower" themselves to a straight up transaction.

Been partial to cafe Dang lately but always seem to.

Get the same three girl late afternoon shift. Not complaining as one is just smoking hot and does full show. I know Jenny works there but does she ever give show?

Also haven't been to starz in a long time as the IG posts just don't look like my cup of tea. Looks like Helen when she works there is the only Asian left and the other girls more along the lines of DD of years past. What's the vibe at starz for those that have gone lately?

[QUOTE=FriskyDoc1975;6338509]DD Cafe.

Just ok. Nothing super special about it. Relatively tiny though so it is nice when it's not busy and you're the only guy there haha. Never had any issues with crazy amount of second hand smoke. Best one at posting update on Instagram so you know who to expect when you walk in. From what I have seen this location tends to have the least amount of Vietnamese / Asian chicks.

Cafe 269.

Some decent looking cuties. In my opinion this cafe has the best lap dances, full songs and if you want privacy the girls will take you to the very back where it's pretty much a 1 on 1 with you and the girl. Girls here are pretty open minded as well and are the most willing to meet after work if your willing to put time / money into it.

Starz Cafe.

Nothing memorable, always dead when I go. Wouldn't really recommend.

Cafe Dang.

Best to get some actual work done. Decent Wi-Fi and relatively clean / bright. Girls mostly hangout by the back and do the occasional show. You will probably get interrogated on what you do for work. Not much touching / sitting with you at this location, mostly just occasional shows. This location also tends to have the most stereotypical hot Vietnamese ABG girls with tattoos if that's your thing.

Cafe Lu.

Best one hands down if you are looking to just talk to girls. The amount of times I have gone during the day and the girls end up only talking to 1 or 2 regulars their entire shift is too damn high LOL. Good for people like me who frequent cafes a lot but this is probably the worst one for noobies. The girls don't even bother doing shows most times and usually it's just 1 or 2 girls working during the day.

Cafe 168.

Best blend of everything. Semi private area for lap dances. Nice variety of shows fairly consistently. Good for regulars and noobies although regulars definitely get preferential treatment unless it's dead slow. Girls will come and sit with you even if it's your first time assuming you're tipping well. Nice blend of ethnicities and types when it comes to the girls.

Personally I would say if you're new and looking to get your feet wet cafe dang is probably the best one to just get your feet wet. Since no touching or lap dances are involved and girls don't really bother to sit with people you can get the whole concept of how cafes work without burning through too much money.

Best one if you're just looking to relax is cafe Lu, if you're a regular. Talk to a girl for a bit and then she will just lay her head on you. You do your thing she does her thing. She might even take a nap with you if it's dead slow.

Best one long term is 168. Initially you won't get much out of it being new but as they recognize you, you'll get a lot more time with the girls. This has the best eye candy but also the easiest to burn through money besides 269.

Best one if your a horny mofo is 269. Get all the lap dances you want and girls are pretty open minded to meeting outside of the cafe. I have gotten every girls contact at this location after one lap dance. Expect to pay alot though for the pleasure of fucking a cafe hottie.[/QUOTE]Having experienced with these cafes the last 18 months, Doc's report is highly accurate. One thing to be wary of is YMMV. Because some shifts consist of no more than 3 girls, you will likely have to return to the place several times to hit the right combination of servers that result in a horny mofo time if that's what you're looking for. Not likely to happen the first time you go, or every time you go.

I've cycled through all of these shops over the years. For a long time Girlz was a favorite when it was on Garden Grove Blvd. I was a regular at Starz for a year or so but after my favorite girl Savannah passed away it was just too depressing.

168 is pretty much always a good time so I spend most of my Coffee Shop time there. It is your best bet for full nude shows.

I do like 268. It is mellower than 168 but some of the girls are smoking!

On a side note 268 does have the best tea.

[QUOTE=FlipOnOver;6346742]I've cycled through all of these shops over the years. For a long time Girlz was a favorite when it was on Garden Grove Blvd. I was a regular at Starz for a year or so but after my favorite girl Savannah passed away it was just too depressing.

168 is pretty much always a good time so I spend most of my Coffee Shop time there. It is your best bet for full nude shows.

I do like 268. It is mellower than 168 but some of the girls are smoking!

On a side note 268 does have the best tea.[/QUOTE]Yep, Savannah was a cutie with a great personality. Very sad that she's gone.

I've seen this coffee shop in my Ig and I was wondering if they do shows like in the other ones?

[QUOTE=Ticl90;6372682]I've seen this coffee shop in my Ig and I was wondering if they do shows like in the other ones?[/QUOTE]They do but if the don't recognize you, they may just ask you a few questions first.

Went to Cafe Dang a couple of days ago. Nice, relaxing atmosphere with seating in the back. 3 Asian girls working. They were OK looking. I was not interrogated upon entry. None of them sat down with me. Not the friendliest. Only one girl (the most attractive) was giving full shows every 10 to 15 minutes. The other girls didn't do anything except for walk around a little bit. I got bored after a while and left. Good place to relax with the possibility of shows depending on timing.

Anyone been to Venuz cafe lately? I remember them getting raided a bit ago but they seem to back to normal now with new girls?

Last few times I was here it was bad except for the occasional Helen appearance. Been just going to cafe dang. For whatever reason decided to give one last try as pre covid this was my go to. Saw a smoking hot Latina who during her shows came up to me and was like educate yourself and take a feel hahahah. Two Latinas were were good looking. Couple white girls for theose that like more size, a rail thin girl giving shows but not my type and the. Helen was just corking the register. Talked to her a bit and she was saying how they do dances in the back.

Any of you fine gentleman partake in any of these dances. Helen was saying like $40-$50 per dance depending on the girl. Haven't been to library in a long time so not sure what the going rate there is for a lap dance but $40-$50 seems a bit high. I could just be out of touch but just curious how were the dances if anyone has gotten them.

[QUOTE=CJamesTX85;6395817]Last few times I was here it was bad except for the occasional Helen appearance. Been just going to cafe dang. For whatever reason decided to give one last try as pre covid this was my go to. Saw a smoking hot Latina who during her shows came up to me and was like educate yourself and take a feel hahahah. Two Latinas were were good looking. Couple white girls for theose that like more size, a rail thin girl giving shows but not my type and the. Helen was just corking the register. Talked to her a bit and she was saying how they do dances in the back.

Any of you fine gentleman partake in any of these dances. Helen was saying like $40-$50 per dance depending on the girl. Haven't been to library in a long time so not sure what the going rate there is for a lap dance but $40-$50 seems a bit high. I could just be out of touch but just curious how were the dances if anyone has gotten them.[/QUOTE]Had a lap dance in the back part of the kitchen at 269 a while back, wonder where "the back" is at Dang?

[QUOTE=ThatGuy2289;6387941]Anyone been to Venuz cafe lately? I remember them getting raided a bit ago but they seem to back to normal now with new girls?[/QUOTE]I went there yesterday (4/4/23). It was open and tea was served. Apparently they have an IG that is updated daily with the ladies pouring tea.

[QUOTE=FriskyDoc1975;6338509]
Cafe 269.

Some decent looking cuties. In my opinion this cafe has the best lap dances, full songs and if you want privacy the girls will take you to the very back where it's pretty much a 1 on 1 with you and the girl. Girls here are pretty open minded as well and are the most willing to meet after work if your willing to put time / money into it.

Best one if your a horny mofo is 269. Get all the lap dances you want and girls are pretty open minded to meeting outside of the cafe. I have gotten every girls contact at this location after one lap dance. Expect to pay alot though for the pleasure of fucking a cafe hottie.[/QUOTE]I was quoted $80 for a nude dance today. ONE SONG! Do these girls not know that there are strip clubs down the street? What am I missing here? Someone explain. She did say it would be enjoyable. But I know that game. Please enlighten me! Some of the girls are definitely hot.

[QUOTE=FriskyDoc1975;6338509]
Starz Cafe.

Nothing memorable, always dead when I go. Wouldn't really recommend.
[/QUOTE]I wouldn't agree with that. I was at Starz and then 269. Saw more tits and P at Starz and a couple of the girls even come up together and slapped their tits all over all the patrons LOL Reallly hot girls there too IMO.

[QUOTE=BoulderBoy;6399332]I was quoted $80 for a nude dance today. ONE SONG! Do these girls not know that there are strip clubs down the street? What am I missing here? Someone explain. She did say it would be enjoyable. But I know that game. Please enlighten me! Some of the girls are definitely hot.

I wouldn't agree with that. I was at Starz and then 269. Saw more tits and P at Starz and a couple of the girls even come up together and slapped their tits all over all the patrons LOL Reallly hot girls there too IMO.[/QUOTE]The main purpose behind cafes is to just chill and see some titties, maybe get a nice handful and lap dance.

Now to clarify the $80 nude lap dance price yes that seems about right. You are going to pay a premium to get lap dances and potentially fuck them outside of the cafe. The main reason that I keep seeing people willing to go through this route is because you get to fuck hot chicks that you normally wouldn't find at strip clubs / escort agencies and that haven't had a thousand dudes fuck them yet. The other main reason is the rush of being able to fuck one of these girls when only a few mongers have been able to.

If youre just looking to fuck then cafes are definitely not your scene. But if youre just looking for a more laid back version of a strip club then cafes are your thing. Personally I just use it as a buildup to a session with a k-girl or a massage at haven spa.

Unless you really like a cafe girl and have to fuck her then I wouldnt invest into the lap dance/tipping heavy because it will end up costing you around 10x the amount that it would have cost you to just go see a k-girl. And even then it’s not guaranteed that she will fuck you when you hang outside of the cafe.

[QUOTE=BoulderBoy;6399332]I was quoted $80 for a nude dance today. ONE SONG! Do these girls not know that there are strip clubs down the street? What am I missing here? Someone explain. She did say it would be enjoyable. But I know that game. Please enlighten me! Some of the girls are definitely hot.

I wouldn't agree with that. I was at Starz and then 269. Saw more tits and P at Starz and a couple of the girls even come up together and slapped their tits all over all the patrons LOL Really hot girls there too IMO.[/QUOTE]Same reason bottled water at dance clubs costs $10. If your goal is to bang an ABG, hit up the Nuru shops.

[QUOTE=BoulderBoy;6399332]I was quoted $80 for a nude dance today. ONE SONG! Do these girls not know that there are strip clubs down the street? What am I missing here? Someone explain. She did say it would be enjoyable. But I know that game. Please enlighten me! Some of the girls are definitely hot.

I wouldn't agree with that. I was at Starz and then 269. Saw more tits and P at Starz and a couple of the girls even come up together and slapped their tits all over all the patrons LOL Reallly hot girls there too IMO.[/QUOTE]Yeah I definitely agree a ripoff, some girls do set their prices, but usually standard is $40 regular, $60 topless, and $80 nude at DD cafe. Personally, I only take them up on dances because I find them more attractive than MPs, also asians don't really work at strip clubs so pretty hard to find them there.

If anyone has info on an attractive abg at a MP, I'm all ears, only one I've found to be pretty attractive is Lily / Nabi at Haven but she is pretty pricey and not the most open. Have tried Min at Haven but she is so-so.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;6401497]Yeah I definitely agree a ripoff, some girls do set their prices, but usually standard is $40 regular, $60 topless, and $80 nude at DD cafe. Personally, I only take them up on dances because I find them more attractive than MPs, also asians don't really work at strip clubs so pretty hard to find them there.

If anyone has info on an attractive abg at a MP, I'm all ears, only one I've found to be pretty attractive is Lily / Nabi at Haven but she is pretty pricey and not the most open. Have tried Min at Haven but she is so-so.[/QUOTE]I very much frequent the local spas and nabi is also the closest I've found. Kali at newport would also be up your alley but she's really greedy and her service leaves a lot to be desired. Hot though.

Also if you just ask, most of the DD girls are down to do a 2 for 60 or whatever discounted rate, especially on the topless / nude dances since they all cost them the same amount (they pay 10 to the house per dance per song).

Whats up with all the cafe's closing early? I was going to 269 and they close at 8?! WTF.

Is any place open late?

[QUOTE=AsianPussy;6411501]Whats up with all the cafe's closing early? I was going to 269 and they close at 8?! WTF.

Is any place open late?[/QUOTE]DD cafe is open till 11 and midnight on weekends (Fri-Sunday). 168 is open till 11 pm everyday.

Any blowjob cafes like they have in Vietnam or Thailand?

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6413044]Any blowjob cafes like they have in Vietnam or Thailand?[/QUOTE]This is not a Free country like Vietnam and most of Asia.

[QUOTE=FriskyDoc1975;6338493]Bender is pretty much spot on. Most if not all girls are down to fuck, with about 1% not being down to fuck no matter how much you throw at them. I have fucked Kayl* from 269, Elen* from 168, and Ann* from 168. If you gather up the amount of money I have spent on tips plus the amount of money it actually took to get them to meet outside of the cafe, on the low end you are looking at approximately 8 K and on the high end the most expensive came in just shy of 22 K. All together I have spent around 36 K for those three endeavors.

Money aside you are also looking at a pretty big time investment. In my situation I had to get them to be comfortable enough with me to sit with me before I even brought up meeting outside. Then you still have to go through with all the BS of hanging out with them outside to get them comfortable enough to go back to your place. After that you still have to give them a generous tip to convince them to fuck.

Of course my situation is a lot different than most, I'm old and fat so I know for a fact that I'm paying more than most. The only way I can see someone fucking these girls for less is if you are relatively young, fit, and financially comfortable. Even then I would still expect to pay minimum around 1 K if everything goes well. That's including tips, dinner, etc.[/QUOTE]Was quoted 3 k but personally I rather party in TJ all night for 1/3 the cost.

Who quoted the 3 grand?

[QUOTE=LarryLegend12;6423389]Was quoted 3 k but personally I rather party in TJ all night for 1/3 the cost.[/QUOTE]For that money just go to Vietnam and get all the boom boom and BJs you want.

[QUOTE=WhoreMaster91;6425695]For that money just go to Vietnam and get all the boom boom and BJs you want.[/QUOTE]Larry, please let us know who quoted you 3 k. Thank you.

Newly opened Cafe 369 on April 23 14331 Euclid (pretty sure in the old Catz) at cafe369_ on insta Haven't been in yet but this is a good opportunity for you to establish being a regular because they are new and there aren't the normal batch of regulars you will have to stand out from (less of a time / money investment) Hope it is a good one and everyone has fun.

Checked out 369, had never been to 269 but I really dug 369. Seems a bit more regular oriented than DD as only like one person came up to me my first time but she was super cool. Cheaper dance prices than dd too. Haven't been to many others to have perspective. Went on a Sunday night and 369 was super calm, went to DD after close and it was a party. I prefer the calmer spots personally.

Want to give a shout-out to one of the low-key Vietnamese cafe shop. This place has young, classy and intelligent women that are very customer service oriented, other than some others. Great place to study, watch a Laker game or just chat with some down to earth women. It's not like cafe 369, Lu, etc. But a more sophisticated vibe.

[QUOTE=BChun009;6440392]Want to give a shout-out to one of the low-key Vietnamese cafe shop. This place has young, classy and intelligent women that are very customer service oriented, other than some others. Great place to study, watch a Laker game or just chat with some down to earth women. It's not like cafe 369, Lu, etc. But a more sophisticated vibe.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the info!

Do the girls still provide shows here?

[QUOTE=BChun009;6440392]Want to give a shout-out to one of the low-key Vietnamese cafe shop. This place has young, classy and intelligent women that are very customer service oriented, other than some others. Great place to study, watch a Laker game or just chat with some down to earth women. It's not like cafe 369, Lu, etc. But a more sophisticated vibe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BChun009;6440392]Want to give a shout-out to one of the low-key Vietnamese cafe shop. This place has young, classy and intelligent women that are very customer service oriented, other than some others. Great place to study, watch a Laker game or just chat with some down to earth women. It's not like cafe 369, Lu, etc. But a more sophisticated vibe.[/QUOTE]I've seen this place before but never been inside. How does it compare to other coffee shops ex DD, 269, etc. I usually go to these places alone so I prefer the chill vibe rather than loud. Do they do tea refills and do the girls sit and chat with you like other shops or is it more like a hooters where they're only waitresses. And do they sit and chat with everyone or only regulars?

Stopped by Cafe 269 this morning to find the sign down, doors locked and room cleared out.

Too bad. I liked that place.

[QUOTE=Dman4;6441178]I've seen this place before but never been inside. How does it compare to other coffee shops ex DD, 269, etc. I usually go to these places alone so I prefer the chill vibe rather than loud. Do they do tea refills and do the girls sit and chat with you like other shops or is it more like a hooters where they're only waitresses. And do they sit and chat with everyone or only regulars?[/QUOTE]If you're talking about Quan Vui on McFadden / Harbor, it's different. Skimpy outfits and all that, but no shows. Girls can sit down and talk with you, but it's a lot more normal conversation with a girl in a skimpy outfit, compared to others I've been where they're like "want to see my tits? Haven't seen much in the way of gangsters and such there. Personally I go there to work when I'm tired of sitting at home all day.

It's a more of a place to chill than other shops I've been to.

[QUOTE=FlipOnOver;6441354]Stopped by Cafe 269 this morning to find the sign down, doors locked and room cleared out.

Too bad. I liked that place.[/QUOTE]They've moved to the old Catz place on Euclid near Starz. Now Cafe 369.

[QUOTE=FlipOnOver;6441354]Stopped by Cafe 269 this morning to find the sign down, doors locked and room cleared out.

Too bad. I liked that place.[/QUOTE]They moved to cafe 369 off Euclid and emperor quang trung.

[QUOTE=FrankReynolds;6441781]They moved to cafe 369 off Euclid and emperor quang trung.[/QUOTE]In the same plaza as Mon. Ami cafe?