Tijuana Reports

[QUOTE=BearBare;2886540]I think they forgot what HK did. Originally, I never went into HK. But, they always had hotties next to the front door.

If the other bars get hot girls, they should just have them out front skimpy / modest outfits. The people will start saying,"hmmm I should check that place out". Price a date at $40 and 8 for the room and theyll pull mad bank. The outside girls are 20 and 5 for room, so theyll still keep prices in line to gradually match AB.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what the girls in hk or ab are charging these days. Reading posts in this forum it sounds like 3 to 4 times what it costs for a SG. For me it's not worth it. I'm going to get the same service and and probably a longer time in the room with a SG. Some of them want extra for CBJ or different positions but most of the ones I see these days are repeats and they know I'm going to give them a 10 dl tip so they never hassle me. 30 dl for the SG and 5 dl for the room tops and I hardly ever have anyone knocking on the door. I can still pull any chica out of las chevelas and negotiate 40 dls but I heard the rooms now are like 16 dls. This is what I used to pay ab and hk chicas back in the day. Before the remodels. I also remember back in the day they were much more relaxed about time if you were there early in the day or during the weekdays. I'm not interested in bar girls at all these day but I know a lot are. Before I pay a chica at hk or ab 80 dl and then 16 dl for a room I'll call a BP provider and do a 60 dl qk visit and it'll be the same service. Over the years BP rates have come way down and ab / hk rates have gone way up. Just my 2 cents. Moe.

[QUOTE=MemoeNasty;2888194]I have no idea what the girls in hk or ab are charging these days. Reading posts in this forum it sounds like 3 to 4 times what it costs for a SG. For me it's not worth it. I'm going to get the same service and and probably a longer time in the room with a SG. Some of them want extra for CBJ or different positions but most of the ones I see these days are repeats and they know I'm going to give them a 10 dl tip so they never hassle me. 30 dl for the SG and 5 dl for the room tops and I hardly ever have anyone knocking on the door. I can still pull any chica out of las chevelas and negotiate 40 dls but I heard the rooms now are like 16 dls. This is what I used to pay ab and hk chicas back in the day. Before the remodels. I also remember back in the day they were much more relaxed about time if you were there early in the day or during the weekdays. I'm not interested in bar girls at all these day but I know a lot are. Before I pay a chica at hk or ab 80 dl and then 16 dl for a room I'll call a BP provider and do a 60 dl qk visit and it'll be the same service. Over the years BP rates have come way down and ab / hk rates have gone way up. Just my 2 cents. Moe.[/QUOTE]Amen to all you said Moe. The approximate difference in salary between USA and Mexico is four to one. So an HK girl is getting about the equivalent $320-$400 for that 20 minutes upstairs. That's more than most FS strippers in COI are getting. The HK prices are getting out of hand brother mongers. Don't yield to the $100 demands.

You said, Amen to all you said Moe. The approximate difference in salary between USA and Mexico is four to one. So an HK girl is getting.

About the equivalent $320-$400 for that 20 minutes upstairs. That's more than most FS strippers in COI are getting. The HK prices are getting out of hand brother.

Mongers. Don't yield to the $100 demands.

Pussy trade in Tijuana is at least 10%. Plus the girls when in the club are force to sell their allotment of drinks too.

Plus whatever the girl gets from the gringo to fuck, she has to kick half the money to the club. Clubs are greedy for the American dollars.

My solution, supply and demand. You don't cross the border and keep your dollars here; just maybe the prices might come down.

[QUOTE=WildMan007;2888428]You said, Amen to all you said Moe. The approximate difference in salary between USA and Mexico is four to one. So an HK girl is getting.

About the equivalent $320-$400 for that 20 minutes upstairs. That's more than most FS strippers in COI are getting. The HK prices are getting out of hand brother.

Mongers. Don't yield to the $100 demands.

Pussy trade in Tijuana is at least 10%. Plus the girls when in the club are force to sell their allotment of drinks too.

Plus whatever the girl gets from the gringo to fuck, she has to kick half the money to the club. Clubs are greedy for the American dollars.

My solution, supply and demand. You don't cross the border and keep your dollars here; just maybe the prices might come down.[/QUOTE]More realistic is do more streetgirls and not the HK AB girls with the high prices. The word may get out that SGs with lower prices are getting a bigger share of business and the bargirls would have to hold the line or lower their rates to get clients.

[QUOTE=WildMan007;2888428]You said, Amen to all you said Moe. The approximate difference in salary between USA and Mexico is four to one. So an HK girl is getting.

About the equivalent $320-$400 for that 20 minutes upstairs. That's more than most FS strippers in COI are getting. The HK prices are getting out of hand brother.

Mongers. Don't yield to the $100 demands.

Pussy trade in Tijuana is at least 10%. Plus the girls when in the club are force to sell their allotment of drinks too.

Plus whatever the girl gets from the gringo to fuck, she has to kick half the money to the club. Clubs are greedy for the American dollars.

My solution, supply and demand. You don't cross the border and keep your dollars here; just maybe the prices might come down.[/QUOTE]There is truth to this post. I've also heard that SG's have to kick down half of what they charge. That's why I always give a 10 dl tip so the powers that be don't get any of that money. I also agree that the bar owner / mgmts don't give a shit about the girls. I'm just not sure what the split is for the ficha drinks and then the arriba. As far as north of the border I never started hooking up with BP girls until about 2011. Back in the day it was CL and there were no providers offering anything less than 100 for the half. Qk visits were nonexistent. Most of them were 150 for the half and 200 for the hr and they were getting it. Once those rates came down I thought jee I can save on parking, the long lines and being hungover the next day. Back in the day I was all Tijuana but not now. I wouldn't go as far to say I'm never going down to Tijuana again but things have sure changed. Adios. Moe.

[QUOTE=WildMan007;2888428]
Plus whatever the girl gets from the gringo to fuck, she has to kick half the money to the club.[/QUOTE]Nope. She gets a cut of the money from the drinks you buy her She gets nothing from the hotel fee. The money you pay her for the time in the room is all hers.

I think some things are getting twisted. The SG is only half the price. So, in Adelitas youll get any girl to agree, even on a Saturday, to $50. The room is $12. The SG is 20 plus 5 for the room but they will very likely charge upsell fees especially on Saturday. Last Saturday, every girl had limitations that was on the street. I don't really favtor the room cost in comparison, butvthe $12 rooms are decent for the task but the $5 ones are nasty.

Then theres the quality. You can walk into Adelitas on a weekend and find a 7-9, and usually a 10, easily. You won't have that walking down the alley. Then, I've never had an Adelitas girl haggle anything with me. They strip, they allow me to give them massages, etc. The only bad experiences were exceptions ("accidentally falling forward in K9 as I hit the apex", as one example) bhowever, with the street girls you have to be very specific and they are all different. One said $25 was no oral and only top came off, another said 1 position and no clothes off, etc. You really have to be on your toes and ask the right questions. And even then it can go wrong.

I found that I watch non verbals of the girls first. I walk in, grab a beer, and sit on the edge so no one sits next to me. Be polite and decline, even if the hottest girl sits down. I want to check them all out before choosing. See the ones who just sit in the back making no effort? Eliminated. See the ones who sit right next to the front door? Contenders. Then I look for the ones in the middle of the spectrum. Actively looking but not aggressive.

Then walk up and talk to them. Tell them what you like. Watch their reactions and trust your instinct. Cold or fake responses? Thank them and move on. If all seems good say "ok, lets go up. " If they grab your hand and go towards the door, I've always had a great time. If they turn and start to walk without really giving two fucks if you're following, I've occasionally atopped then and said "Sorry, I've changed my mind. " I've had 50/50 when I didn't stop them and ignored instincts. So Ill leave that up to your call.

Hong Kong girls will come down to $50 in some cases. They always start really high. I save HK for when my Spanish speaking friends can come with me. In those cases it always works out that a $80 or $100 first request comes down to $50. I have to say Ive had the hottest girl Ive ever mongered with at bot HK and Adelitas. Generallt though I dont expect it to work out at HK

Thats my cliff notes from about 10 years of Tijuana mongering. Yes, Ive accused of overthinking mongering but its just how I do it and overall Ive had great experiences. Evn in Amsterdam, I used a similar approach. Checked them all out and then talked to a couple. Around the world, if a girl genuinely smiles at your questions and says, "dont worry. Ill make sure you have a good time," theyve always been right.

I have a different perspective. I don't live in SD anymore, so only go to Tijuana when I come home to visit family. Last few times I have been there, I have sampled the clubs, but then usually just go with SG's instead. While it is true that on average the girls in HK are prettier than the girls on the street, they tend to be made up more, so looks are deceiving.

I spend a lot of time checking out the SG's for both looks and attitude. If I find one attractive, I chat her up and then I can assess if she will treat me right, and agree on the deal before the room. However, my Spanish is pretty good, so perhaps if your language skills are not good, you might not get as good of an experience.

My last few SG experiences have been with pretty girls, as pretty as the HK or AB ones, I have gotten exactly what I have asked for, no rush, and have paid a half of what it would have cost with the club girls.

Shame on you if you live in SD and don't speak decent Spanish! (At least good monger Spanish, LOL).

[QUOTE=George1950;2888588]More realistic is do more streetgirls and not the HK AB girls with the high prices. The word may get out that SGs with lower prices
are getting a bigger share of business and the bargirls would have to hold the line or lower their rates to get clients.[/QUOTE]Let me see, girls have to pay rent to be there in the bar. You know sub-contractors. Plus they have to tip the bartenders, the bouncers and security guys.

When they walk out of of the bar to the hotel room.

I would estimate half of the money they make from the gringos goes out as fees for the night. Does that make sense?

BTW BareBear, great instincts. You hone in on the patterns and behavior of the ladies. Great response!

Thanks everyone for the detailed information and opinions on Tijuana.

I'm thinking about making a trip down there.

My only concern is the value for the money.

I'm seeing that I need to spend $50 more for a decent time.

I've got a couple regulars here in LA that drain my vein for that.

BareBear, your last post was really helpful. By chance, have you been to Colombia or other places?

In Colombia I can goto a casa in Medellin (like NewLife) and choose from an amazing lineup of girls.

The price is 45 k for 30 min or 60 k for an hour. Thats $15 USD and $20 USD.

No pressure, no drama, completely safe and most casas have a variety of girls.

Which is better value for my time, money and tastes? Thoughts?

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2889123]

Shame on you if you live in SD and don't speak decent Spanish! (At least good monger Spanish, LOL).[/QUOTE]Speaking Spanish is crucial on street and HK. Adelitas is less of an issue.

I know, I've been picking up bits here and there. I know just a bit of French, German, Flemish, and Spanish. I just don't really have too many situations to practice, " during a blowjob I want no condom," or "Im hung like a tic-tac and finish fast. How about $50 instead of your $100 offer?" :-D

Heres a joke for you: what do you call someone who can speak 3 languages? Tri-lingual. Someone who speaks two languages? Bi-lingual.

So what do you call someone who speaks only 1 language?
American. (Alternative punchline is "French!!" Since stereotypically theyre considered as arrogant as we Americans that everyone should speak their language. I'm liable to side with them because who ever started that ritual where girls walk up to you and give you kisses is a fucking genius)

Back on topic. Im extremely likely to be hitting TJ this Friday. If I see a great looking SW or the SW who offered greek last time, Ill be going there. Otherwise Ill prob go with Adelitas.

[QUOTE=WildMan007;2889297]Let me see, girls have to pay rent to be there in the bar. You know sub-contractors. Plus they have to tip the bartenders, the bouncers and security guys.

When they walk out of of the bar to the hotel room.

I would estimate half of the money they make from the gringos goes out as fees for the night. Does that make sense?

BTW BareBear, great instincts. You hone in on the patterns and behavior of the ladies. Great response![/QUOTE]Tip the bartenders, waiters, etc. Yup. Also helps if they tip the hotel guys. They don't, however, pay rent to work in the bar. The obligation to the bar is made up through fichas. The big bars have a nightly ficha quota (at one time it was 30 in AB) that the girls have to meet. But, they also get a cut of the drinks you buy, based on the number of fichas they collect each night.

I don't know what they are doing now, but back when I was a regular, a girl having a good night might lay out $20-$50 a night in tips. On an income of $200-$300 a night.

Hey Mongers,

Read around a bit and took the plung. Drove down to Tijuana around 8 pm. Parked and walked over the border, real easy. I took a cab to Hk and paid the cab driver $5. Once inside the club I was blown away by the sheer quality this club had. A girl caught my attention right away, she was dancing on the pole by the bar. I asked her how much and she said $300. I laughed and kept moving. The rest of the night I was quoted $80 at hk and $17 for the room at cascades. My Spanish is is pretty on point, but I didn't really haggle with the price. The booze and atmosphere had me feeling alright. I tried out 2 of the girls and took a SW for $20 before the night was over.

Ate a bunch of tacos, walked over the border around 2 am with 0 wait time. Didn't even have to bother with the sentri line.

Great time! I will be back.

[QUOTE=Gekio;2889640]Hey Mongers,

Read around a bit and took the plung. Drove down to Tijuana around 8 pm. Parked and walked over the border, real easy. I took a cab to Hk and paid the cab driver $5. Once inside the club I was blown away by the sheer quality this club had. A girl caught my attention right away, she was dancing on the pole by the bar. I asked her how much and she said $300. I laughed and kept moving. The rest of the night I was quoted $80 at hk and $17 for the room at cascades. My Spanish is is pretty on point, but I didn't really haggle with the price. The booze and atmosphere had me feeling alright. I tried out 2 of the girls and took a SW for $20 before the night was over.

Ate a bunch of tacos, walked over the border around 2 am with 0 wait time. Didn't even have to bother with the sentri line.

Great time! I will be back.[/QUOTE]80 dls for the girl and 17 dls for the rooms. Just what I said in my below post. Not to mention it's the most expensive club to drink in. I know bearbare is a reputable member on here and if he's pulling chicas out of hk for 50 dls he's the man. I also think it's complete bs that you need to speak Spanish in northern baja. I find more people who speak English in Tijuana and the zona than when I'm trying to order a burger in Chula Juana. I just got an uber ride today from natl city to santee and I swear the cutie who was driving didn't understand one word I said. Broken English at best. So do I need to speak Spanish in Tijuana or in the US? And when I'm in the zona can I speak English or do I need to speak Spanish? After all these years I can't keep track anymore. Moe.

[QUOTE=MemoeNasty;2889706]80 dls for the girl and 17 dls for the rooms. Just what I said in my below post. Not to mention it's the most expensive club to drink in. [/QUOTE]$100 per load? Ouch.

When I factor in travel time and hotel room in San Deigo its doesn't make much sense.

For me its better to fly into Medellin and bang girls for $15 to $20 per load.