[QUOTE=ByronDee; 1394644]Deliah,
FYI, She says she is leaving in a week or two. Hae to see her go. But she did say the same before so who knows.
Happy hunting[/QUOTE]Hope that is not true. Great service
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[QUOTE=ByronDee; 1394644]Deliah,
FYI, She says she is leaving in a week or two. Hae to see her go. But she did say the same before so who knows.
Happy hunting[/QUOTE]Hope that is not true. Great service
Anon,
Your experience scheduling with MollyD is different that mine and w'eve had that conversation via PM. You raised some questions Friday and your comments post-storm on Saturday were a class move. Add to that how you're approaching this second round of unreliability and you're going above and beyond giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Just like the PGA, a pro is only as good as their last round. In the PPA (that would be the Pro-Provider-Association) , you're only as good as your last appointment. That's all aspects of your last appointment. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of PPA members forget it's not just the in-room experience that sets the tone for the entire encounter. It starts with the little stuff like how you answer the phone, how your outgoing voice mail message sounds, the speed with which you return calls, and the ease of scheduling. Certainly none of this can offset a bad in-room experience but seriously, there comes a point where even the best in-room experience is tainted by poor up front reliability and predictability.
The top PPA players know this and deliver on it. That's what puts them on our leader board week after week.
I'm still a supporter so hopefully, third time's a charm. That said, if you strike out tomorrow, I think it's time for me to reassess my experience as "old news". Good luck.
Have a great day.
Dz
[QUOTE=Dweezil; 1396986]Anon,
Your experience scheduling with MollyD is different that mine and w'eve had that conversation via PM. You raised some questions Friday and your comments post-storm on Saturday were a class move. Add to that how you're approaching this second round of unreliability and you're going above and beyond giving her the benefit of the doubt. * Dz[/QUOTE] I haven't read what's been going on between Dweezil and Anonone about Molly D so no sides are being taken on that one. I'm jumping in to say I think the girl's last appointment can influence how she responds to the next request for one and influence how she handles the next appointment. I also think our particular approach can drive success or failure. She is more a reactor than an actor, or so I think. I've been doing this a while.
Case in point. I wanted to see a particular girl in a town where I had a business meeting. The board reported this particular girl had excellent service and accurate pics but she was hard to get a hold of and slow responding. Her ad said she prefers text.
My plans had me in town all day tied up with business, that evening I would be on my own and the following day I would again be tied up on business. My only chance to see her would be that first evening. On purpose I stayed in the same general area where her advertising said she was located, a small area in a major market.
I sent her a text around noon that first day saying I wanted to see her that evening and I would know my time availability by 5:00 pm. My text was literally that short and literally said only that. This girl, a girl the board reported was slow responding, texted back 5 minutes later saying, "Ok." Notice I texted her I would know by 5:00 pm.
I finished my day and sent her a text I was good to go at her convenience. It was 5:10 pm. She texted back a few minutes later saying she waited and didn't hear from me and went on to something else. I concluded my window of time was clearly less than 10 minutes with her and that told me she was a person on time herself, hardly the conclusion other posters had drawn. People on time themselves tend to hold others to the same thing. So I'm starting to conclude that maybe problems others reported with her happened because they were not on time. But I was SOL regardless. One can't push on a string. I texted no reply.
Around 8:00 pm that evening I was alone in my room and I sent her another text just on the chance. Recall we were both in the same general area but at this point she did not know that. So I texted I was in such and such area. Less than a minute later she texted saying she was sorry, again saying she waited until 5:10 pm and she could have seen me had she known I was still in town. A minute later she texted, "Good night." Mind you, she knows I'm close by. She is disengaging nonetheless.
I texted, "Good night" thinking I was SOL. One can't push on a string.
About a minute later she texted directions to her hotel, very clear directions. I went to my car and was in the parking lot of her hotel 4 minutes later. She met me at the door and I had a good time. All her reviews were accurate except the part about her being difficult in responding. I'm convinced she operated on time and others, the complainers about her, did not, and likely displayed drama when they did not get their way. They were the problem. Just my opinion.
This girl is Shannon of Louisville Back Page. I highly recommend. Be on time, whatever time you say. Show no irritation about anything. Treat her, in other words, like you would want to be treated.
Had a dream about her this evening that was completely delightful. This girl has a fun attitude and proved to be a better than average playmate. There was no rush and she was fun both with and with out clothes. She is a well upholstered girl soft and cuddly. As a long term hobbyist who has both been disappointed and thrilled I can honestly say she is at least an 8 on the personality and performance, and if you like your girls on the thicker side you will be more that happy with her appearance, I know I was. A+ service I will definitely see her again and I can't say that about most the girls out there.
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1397037]I haven't read what's been going on between Dweezil and Anonone about Molly D so no sides are being taken on that one. I'm jumping in to say I think the girl's last appointment can influence how she responds to the next request for one and influence how she handles the next appointment. I also think our particular approach can drive success or failure. She is more a reactor than an actor, or so I think. I've been doing this a while.
Case in point. I wanted to see a particular girl in a town where I had a business meeting. The board reported this particular girl had excellent service and accurate pics but she was hard to get a hold of and slow responding. Her ad said she prefers text.
My plans had me in town all day tied up with business, that evening I would be on my own and the following day I would again be tied up on business. My only chance to see her would be that first evening. On purpose I stayed in the same general area where her advertising said she was located, a small area in a major market.
I sent her a text around noon that first day saying I wanted to see her that evening and I would know my time availability by 5:00 pm. My text was literally that short and literally said only that. This girl, a girl the board reported was slow responding, texted back 5 minutes later saying,"Ok." Notice I texted her I would know by 5:00 pm.
I finished my day and sent her a text I was good to go at her convenience. It was 5:10 pm. She texted back a few minutes later saying she waited and didn't hear from me and went on to something else. I concluded my window of time was clearly less than 10 minutes with her and that told me she was a person on time herself, hardly the conclusion other posters had drawn. People on time themselves tend to hold others to the same thing. So I'm starting to conclude that maybe problems others reported with her happened because they were not on time. But I was SOL regardless. One can't push on a string. I texted no reply.
Around 8:00 pm that evening I was alone in my room and I sent her another text just on the chance. Recall we were both in the same general area but at this point she did not know that. So I texted I was in such and such area. Less than a minute later she texted saying she was sorry, again saying she waited until 5:10 pm and she could have seen me had she known I was still in town. A minute later she texted,"Good night." Mind you, she knows I'm close by. She is disengaging nonetheless.
I texted,"Good night" thinking I was SOL. One can't push on a string.
About a minute later she texted directions to her hotel, very clear directions. I went to my car and was in the parking lot of her hotel 4 minutes later. She met me at the door and I had a good time. All her reviews were accurate except the part about her being difficult in responding. I'm convinced she operated on time and others, the complainers about her, did not, and likely displayed drama when they did not get their way. They were the problem. Just my opinion.
This girl is Shannon of Louisville Back Page. I highly recommend. Be on time, whatever time you say. Show no irritation about anything. Treat her, in other words, like you would want to be treated.[/QUOTE]First, there is nothing going on between me and DZ. He was simply referring to a PM he sent me where he mentioned he was impressed that I did not flame a provider immediately just because some of her communication was poor initially and that it was a class act to give the provider the benefit of the doubt given the storms we had Friday. He had no horse in this race, it was just a general comment of "hey, thanks for being honest, but polite in updating us on your experience." He had nothing to say about Molly D specifically.
I am not sure what your overall point in that post was Golfcart, but if I am reading it correctly, you seem to be suggesting a Gestalt approach is best: "The whole is other than the sum of the parts."
If that is wrong, I am sorry for misunderstanding you. If that is correct, I am afraid you and I completely disagree.
While no one likes to be critical of another person, it is important that we strive to provide the courtesy of polite truthfulness on this board. This place exists, first and foremost, for the exchange of information.
If a given lady is spotty with her communication and professionalism, despite her bedroom skills, it should still be noted in your report of that lady. As DZ pointed out, we shouldn't just review the time spent behind closed doors-it is the total process of the appointment. It is important to note things about the setting an appointment process, the safety and condition of the incall site, etc.
You should not give a free pass to a provider for dropping the ball on some elements of the session, just because she gave you an awesome blowjob. Instead, you should note the parts of the session that were problematic, but qualify it by saying that in your opinion while some parts of the overall session were less than stellar you believe that it is worth enduring those faults for the overall experience. It possible to note such things without making it personal or being overly judgmental.
In this particular case, this young lady has nothing but stellar reviews, some of which exert that she is a consummate professional that has excellent communication skills in setting up the appointment. To the person reading such reports, that would lead them to think that if they contact the woman, even given YMMV, the appointment should go fairly smoothly.
There is an extreme frustration when you find your experience is drastically different from the one reported by others with a given lady. That frustration is exacerbated when you post a report about the difficulty you are having and suddenly you have multiple PMs from several different members that this is par for the course with the lady and that they had a great time with her, but when dealing with her, that is just something you have to accept. That is very annoying. You want to reach through the WIFI connection and thump them on the back of the head and ask: "Why the fudge didn't you write that in your report in the first place?"
You are not being mean or hurtful when you mention things you wish had been better in the session. Such information not only helps the next guy decide if he is going to book, it provides feedback to a provider on how well she is doing. Some providers, not all, actually care about such things and appreciate learning that there may be areas where she could improve. They understand that there is a direct correlation to the amount of revenue they can generate and the level of quality service they provide.
That is why this site exists. For lack of a better term, it is the Angie's List of the pay-to-play world.
Deficiencies should be noted in the reviews, otherwise your review is little more than you tooting your horn about the great blow job she gave you-which is basically useless to the rest of us.
Mere descriptions of the menu and the great time you had, while forgetting to mention that you had problems like:
1) Several no-shows before you actually had the session.
2) Difficulty with communicating with the provider while booking.
3) Unusual or invasive screening requirements.
4) The presence of pimp or boyfriend.
5) Lack of cleanliness / safety of the location.
6) Constant cell phone interruptions.
7) Other small annoyances.
Leaving such "little" details out of your report and filtering the writing through rose colored lenses is not only disservice to your fellow monger, it is unfair to the ladies here that do strive to provide excellent service in all aspects of the session.
I made the point, an opinion I hold, that problems we have in scheduling are often our own making. I used my recent experience in Louisville as an illustration. That was my only point. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Wow, What a delicious dream I had. Great all around experience! Pm me for details.
I did not know that a few drunken texts and a few missed calls / unanswered texts would make me so popular!
Please keep in mind that I am not always available 24/7 for your fiendish need to release sperm.
But when I am available, I return texts and answer the phone in a timely and professional manner.
So I apologize to anyone and everyone who contacted me when I was held hostage by Mr. Vodka.
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1397320]I made the point, an opinion I hold, that problems we have in scheduling are often our own making. I used my recent experience in Louisville as an illustration. That was my only point. Sorry for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]I am afraid I still disagree. How can you blame a lady's failure to get a message and return a call in timely manner on something the client did?
Perhaps you jumped into this with your comments without reading the full thread. Your description of your experience in Louisville is not even remotely comparable to this situation.
So, Golf, let me make the point perfectly clear for all, since you have forced my hand by suggesting that it is somehow my fault that Molly has failed to conduct herself professionally over the last few days by divulging what I was going to hold back until I met Molly in person for a session:
[i][b]I first contacted Molly earlier in the week with a PM. A few days went by without a response. She placed an ad on Thursday night that mentioned her computer was broken and that she could only communicate via the phone and listed two phone numbers. When I called the 513 number she listed, it was out of service. I then tried the 765 number and got a recording. I left a message early Friday on that number and followed it up with a text inquiring about her availability for either Friday or Saturday.
She did not get back to me until much later that evening by sending a number of nonsensical texts. At first, I excused this as perhaps garbled cell tower transmission given the storms we had Friday night. At first not one word was decipherable-just strings of letters and characters that were unintelligible. I responded by sending a text back explaining that the text messages I was getting were unreadable and asking her to attempt sending them again after the storms. The responses that came after that text were indeed readable.
The response: Who is this?
I paused, wondering if the number was even correct. I went back and double checked her ad and my phone record-I had indeed sent everything to the number she listed on the ad. Then several more text followed that were quite profane.
I began to wonder if the phone number was even correct. For all I knew I was texting somebody completely outside of the hobby, if she had listed the wrong numbers. I decided the best move was to turn my phone off, go to bed, and try again Saturday. I posted the report of my experience and asked if anyone else had problems connecting with her lately.
Saturday came, I checked the board to see if anyone else had similar problems, or if perhaps someone that knew her could give us an update, especially given the storms. The 765 area code is after all the area code used in the very areas devastated by the storm. I found nothing other than a few encouraging PMs that said I did the right thing and that suggested,"with Molly you just have to be patient, but if you are you will be richly."
Later that morning, my phone chimed with a text message from Molly:
"WTF! LOL, I am sorry I was really drunk last night."
Well, we can't expect these ladies to be on call 24/7 and we have all perhaps let our drinking get out of control a time or two. No harm, no foul. I figured this was just a one-time mishap. It happens. I called her on the phone. She was very apologetic, told me she didn't realize she was talking to a client, and that she thought she was texting with a friend and promised to make it up to me in person. I asked her about meeting me later that day, and she asked me to call her back after lunch.
I decided all was well in hobby world and, perhaps prematurely, asked Jackson to redact my previous post since she seemed so contrite on the phone, as if this never had happened before. I called her back as instructed, and you guessed, I got voicemail. I left a message, waited a while-no response for an hour or so. She sent me a text:
"I am headed to the shower call me back in a half hour." I did as instructed and she answered the phone. She laughed and said she "was having a lazy day, and hadn't even taken her shower yet." I figured she may have been more hungover than she wanted to admit and asked her if she wanted to try for Sunday and she said that she had gotten her period earlier in the week and she was still bleeding, maybe we should try on Monday."
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Now keep in mind, she had placed an ad late on Thursday to do business on the weekend. This all seemed a bit weird, but maybe it was just a collision of circumstances. I decided to give Molly a third chance on Monday. I called and the phone kept going right to voicemail so I left a voice message inquiring about her availability for Monday, as she instructed. I had no response from her on Monday, so Monday evening I reported an update. Upon posting that, several members (not a few, SEVERAL) , sent me PMs telling me that Molly was a wonderful lady and very sexy. They said if you catch her on a good day, you will have a great time, but, many of them hinted that she likes to drink and sometimes this gets in the way of her conducting her business. I was absolutely boggled at this. Why in the world is she getting glowing reviews from everybody, but in private, the reports aren't so hot.
I have been doing this for over 25 years now. I have encountered a few providers that had substance abuse problems. I know we tend to look the other way when it is drinking or just a little bit of grass, but we are very quick to identify the so-called "addict." We usually do this because many of us have learned that seeing a provider with these problems makes us vulnerable to all sorts of bad outcomes. Perhaps we look the other way when it is just drinking, because it is generally socially acceptable, but those of us that have been doing this regularly for a few years know that even booze and the hobby don't mix well. While you might want to "take the edge off" before doing a session, or perhaps even relax with your date and enjoy a libation together, you figure out pretty quickly that you always want to be in control of your faculties when participating in the hobby. If you haven't learned this lesson the hard way, consider yourself lucky, but I wouldn't keep rolling those dice if I were you.
Some of you may think I am over-reacting. That is fine. There are others that are reading this and getting ready to thank me, because they don't want to visit a provider with a drinking problem (if it is getting in the way of you conducting business it is a problem) than one that might be using drugs. Substance abuse leads to careless mistakes, and this hobby has enough perils without factoring in a lack of sobriety.
Now before you say I am being too harsh on Molly, keep in mind it is now Tuesday afternoon, and after plenty of contact attempts and wide open availability, she has yet to follow through on her own instructions of setting something up when she "felt better" at the start of the week.
All I can say is that her pussy must be made of candy, if some of you guys are regularly tolerating this behavior and hoping to "catch her on a good day" so you can have that awesome experience you are always ready to describe while conveniently failing to mention it took you several attempts to find her sober enough to make an appointment. I am moving on, the Molly fanboys out there can continue to wait in line for her to sober up. There are plenty of other wonderful providers on this board that appreciate the time and money we spend on them with prompt and courteous service.
Golf, don't ever suggest it is my fault that a provider doesn't follow through on her communication.
Attitudes like that enable poor providers to continue to flourish. That is a disservice to your fellow monger and it is unfair to the numerous ladies that do conduct themselves in a serious manner, lest we all forget, this is still a business. For us it is entertainment. For them it is performance and revenue, and if they happen to enjoy themselves while working, that is an extra bonus, hence the idea of YMMV.
I am sorry, YMMV does not cover allowing your alcohol abuse to impact your customer service as a provider, and I think most ladies that take this business seriously would agree with that.
I say let the market rule. I am taking my business elsewhere.
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Anyone partake. I tineyed the pics to 0 result each. Texted but she said she doesn't text. With all this talk about
Too good to be true and sexyeve. I'm a little shaken up to TOFTT, though my other head is persuading me. Even these Dayton busts. Too much risk in this area rite now, if neone has seen give me a headsup.
Hello, anyone partake in this one?
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I'm tired of dealing with your childish drama. Or better yet, why don't you just go ahead and call the Better Business Bureau to report my unprofessional behavior?
I do like my vodka. I also like cock too. But everyone seems to be fine with my love addiction for cock, but if I drink a little vodka, all of the sudden I have a substance abuse problem.
Maybe you have a sex addiction problem. I mean, you are the one that is paying for it every week.
But, if you could get someone half as sexy as me to do you for free, you wouldn't need to be on this website now would you?
Okay. Enough of the childish bullshit.
I'm done bitching and dealing with you.
But if you think you are going to hurt my business with your tattle-telling posts, you are so wrong.
Remember I'm here by choice, not necessity. I graduated from college, and I can get a real job making way more than the 50g's a year you wish you made.
Feel free to call me at 765-977-0248 if anyone else wants to fight or bad mouth me.
Gentlemen enough already. Please take it to pm's if you must continue.
Thank you,
Buster
It is becoming very tiresome listening to the few people who use this form as a platform to bicker back and forth. You guys are just taking up too much of the space that could be used for the basic purposes of this form which is to give honest and respectful reports on their activities. Shame on the members who falsely report on a provider! Shame on the providers that are ripoffs and who you are associated with LE.
Yes members and providers fail to show up, cancel late or fail to return calls. Sometimes it can't be helped and other times it is for selfish reasons. Yes some of the providers, and I'm sure members, have addiction issues that interfere with their reliability. The fact is most of us here have some type of addiction issue or we would probably not be here at all.
I would ask all members to stop with the BS on this form and let the 99% use the form for its proper purpose and not to be used to exercise one's ego or vent out their frustrations on people they don't even know.
[QUOTE=Cokscok; 1397665]It is becoming very tiresome listening to the few people who use this form as a platform to bicker back and forth. You guys are just taking up too much of the space that could be used for the basic purposes of this form which is to give honest and respectful reports on their activities. Shame on the members who falsely report on a provider! Shame on the providers that are ripoffs and who you are associated with LE.
Yes members and providers fail to show up, cancel late or fail to return calls. Sometimes it can't be helped and other times it is for selfish reasons. Yes some of the providers, and I'm sure members, have addiction issues that interfere with their reliability. The fact is most of us here have some type of addiction issue or we would probably not be here at all.
I would ask all members to stop with the BS on this form and let the 99% use the form for its proper purpose and not to be used to exercise one's ego or vent out their frustrations on people they don't even know.[/QUOTE]This forum is here for the exchange of information so mongers can hobby smarter and serious providers can conduct their business.
You have a right to your opinion about how much slack you cut a provider for whatever you define as unprofessional, as do I and other members. If you have a problem with somebody posting about what they, and others, think is a problem or a provider that should be avoided, I suggest you just skip those reports and move on.
I for one won't stop posting bad reports along with good reports just because it makes you uncomfortable.