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[QUOTE=JerryGarcia;1466879]3 … I haven't really had the time [b][u]or desire[/u][/b] to report the last 4-5 dates I have found recently, but let me say that most were very fresh "newer" talent.[/QUOTE]I hope I am not out of line asking, but, could you please explain.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 1467167]I hope I am not out of line asking, but, could you please explain.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]I have been extremely busy-a lot of my dates take place in the late night, so I am too exhausted to report once they have drained me of my juices. I find it is hard to write about things unless they are very fresh in my mind. I know that probably sounds weak-I also feel as if the Board has been very quiet and, other than you-few are contributing intel or reviews.
I will try to at least write a brief review of my most recent date (this past Wednesday). I met a sweet little blonde named Angel around 9:30 at night and had a nice time with her-she was very clean and smelled great-had just about a perfect body (B cups) and a cute face, with big bulging blue eyes, a perfect smile and some freckles. Is apparently not a "high-volume" provider-claims she only shoots coke once in a while and is supposedly on methadone. She had a outstanding shaved kitty that I enjoyed playing with the entire time she was slurping my joint with her mouth-it appeared to be nice and fresh-smelling-I was very tempted to taste it, but decided to save that for another time.
I found her on the corner of Hilton and K-across from the Walgreens-I thought at first she was too good to be true and was very concerned she might be undercover LEO. I made her walk all the way down the block and I pulled into the fenced-in Dunkin Donuts parking lot. I asked her a lot of questions and had her get in-I would not discuss specifics with her until we got on the highway. I took her to my place and had an excellent date-started out with top-shelf BBBJ and then got her to give me an outstanding CG ride-she was definitely an keeper and I would hope to see her again-I have digits, but as I stated previously-they usually don't last or work.
She claims she is 28, but looked younger-had very little marks or bruises-not the average SW for sure. I had been driving around for about three hours before I decided to take a shot with this girl, and I sure am glad that I did. She claims to have a day job in a "normal" setting (I won't divulge the details). Says she only does this sort of thing when "her back is against the wall". We didn't get to have an extended date because she said that she had to be off the Avenue by 11:00 PM.
I have had at least 2-3 other recent dates with "under-the-radar" types like this-unfortunately I haven't been able to find these girls and they never answer their phones. I am seriously beginning to feel like SuperE-finding rare sweet young girls and then realizing that they are basically "one-and-done". So I hope you all believe me when I tell about my experiences-I sure as hell know that they happened.
[QUOTE=JerryGarcia;1467191].I also feel as if the Board has been very quiet and, other than you-few are contributing intel or reviews.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel and quick reply.
Long detailed reviews are nice but not necessary. Just the basics will do. Who, what, when, where and etc. Sometimes just knowing a new one is out there is enough.
Nobody expects every poster to be as great a writer as SuperEloquent (and you) , or to take as many pictures as I do. Like you, I find it very discomforting when I note the number of contributors. It is even more disheartening to read that members are dating but not posting information.
If only everyone did their part, as best as they can, and not worry about what others are doing or not doing, this board would be one hell of a resource.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 1467154]Thanks Zaphod II, it takes guts to admit ones mistakes. She must have really been a beauty. That's when you really have to be careful. If she looks to good to be true that's when you should double clutch and check yourself. Especially if she won't get in.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]Thank Cooky, this kicker of it all is, she wasn't. I had already passed through the K, didn't see anyone worth the effort, was on my way to where I stay in the NE and saw these 2 average OK looking 30 something ladies. Being horned up and 2 lazy to go back to K I just figured I see what I could do here, and BLAM it was all over. Being Sloppy is my biggest crime.
[QUOTE=Zaphod II;1467422]Thank Cooky, this kicker of it all is, she wasn't. I had already passed through the K, didn't see anyone worth the effort, was on my way to where I stay in the NE and saw these 2 average OK looking 30 something ladies. Being horned up and 2 lazy to go back to K I just figured I see what I could do here, and BLAM it was all over. Being Sloppy is my biggest crime.[/QUOTE]Like I said originally, thanks for posting your adventure. A lot of guys would not have shared. It helps knowing that they are out there and how they are operating. I for one will heed you warning.
Thanks again,
CookyJar
What was that, officer? Soliciting prostitution? NEVER! I wouldn't do anything of the sort. I'm trying to recruit these young ladies to work for my housekeeping service. Officer, you may have job security, but don't you realize there's an unemployment crisis in this city? I represent the Second Chance Mission (produce business card) , and it's our project to find gainful employment in domestic services for those who need it. Which clearly applies to these young ladies, since they're reduced to wandering the streets seeking opportunities in the harsh economic environment created by the politicians who couldn't care less.
In fact, while you're here, would you care to make a monetary donation to help us advance our cause?
[QUOTE=Zaphod II; 1466791]So it finally happened, even experienced mongers get careless and screw up it seems. So I was the unwilling recipient of the Vice Squad's hospitality. Sting Operation setup Torresdale and Disston by the 7-11.
After 16 hours in the roundhouse I have serious reservations about this hobby. I'm sure over time I will get over it but the experience sucked and I never want to deal with that again. At least I'm not married but I have deal with court, lawyer fee's, fines and aggravation.
So whatever you do don't let your guard down, I fucked up and broke at least 3 rules of mongering and I paid for it. NEVER EVER EVER talk money and services through the window, if she won't get in first, get the hell out of there.
It sucks but it's a wake up call that what we are doing has it's risks.
Stay safe guys.
Z[/QUOTE]Z- sorry about your experience! Yeah, all of us learn the hard way in this hobby, but it is sad that yours has those kind of consequences. One can get over a bad date or getting ripped off. But an adventure with LE. I feel for you man!
Also want to say thanks to you for showing up here after the bust and posting a warning! Most would be off licking their wounds, not caring enough about others to share their experience and to post one's misfortune. So I give you kudos for doing that!
Sorry about your predicament. Go find a good criminal attorney and see if one can at least get the charges reduced to something innocuous like loitering. I suspect it'll all depend on what kinda hard-on the ADA has for you or those kinda crimes.
Good luck!
I wil lbe visiting your city soon so I came to check out the menu. If anyone can provide me some info on getting with Maylea when I visit please PM me.
Thanks for any assistant in helping me get with that petite sweetie.
CookieJar I must say you are a great contributor with great pics.
[QUOTE=TrublMaykr; 1467457]What was that, officer? Soliciting prostitution? NEVER! I wouldn't do anything of the sort. I'm trying to recruit these young ladies to work for my housekeeping service. Officer, you may have job security, but don't you realize there's an unemployment crisis in this city? I represent the Second Chance Mission (produce business card) , and it's our project to find gainful employment in domestic services for those who need it. Which clearly applies to these young ladies, since they're reduced to wandering the streets seeking opportunities in the harsh economic environment created by the politicians who couldn't care less.
In fact, while you're here, would you care to make a monetary donation to help us advance our cause?[/QUOTE]Let me tell you something about how Vice operates, once you have put your foot in your mouth and said the wrong thing the backup officers roll up on you from out of no where and within 10 seconds I had guns drawn on me and was told to get out of the vehicle and not touch anything, under those circumstances your options are fairly limited to doing what they tell you to do. There was no negotiating, no "wait wait this is a mistake" I was cuffed an stuffed in the back of truck withing 45 seconds of it all.
I thank you for all your support, and again my real reason for posting this is just hopefully help you guys not make the same mistake, some of you may be married, and I was with a few guys in the van who were and once they got released they had even bigger issues to deal with at home. One Guy even said he wasn't going home, he was in wayyy too much trouble.
I got complacent thinking I could just do this forever with no problems other than the occasional bad date, but there are real issues to this. Everyone has to decide what's best for them, I'm not here to tell you guys your business, just to spread the word to be careful.
[QUOTE=Zaphod II;1467777]I got complacent thinking I could just do this forever with no problems other than the occasional bad date, but there are real issues to this. Everyone has to decide what's best for them, I'm not here to tell you guys your business, just to spread the word to be careful.[/QUOTE]Thanks for having the courage to deal with this in the open-I think we all need a reality check when it comes to mongering. I am truly sorry that yours was so harsh, and I sincerely wish you the best in resolving this and moving forward.
I have to seriously rethink my priorities-it is not just the Police that are a concern, but the chance that even worse can happen in such a high-crime District.
Zaphod. That sounds AWFUL! A summons book is one thing, but guns drawn is a whole different story! You seriously have my sympathies, as I'm sure applies to the other guys on here. But thank you for sharing, as a reminder to us all to be careful. Take my word for it. Anyone who pokes her head in my window and asks what I'm shopping for will be asked directions to one remote corner of the city or another. Using my best possible gay imitation!
We all know that middle-aged guys patronizing down-on-their-luck young ladies is a major threat to the safety and security of our fine city, don't we? We don't need to worry about official corruption, gang violence, armed robberies, murders, or even the very drug trade that has put these girls on those street corners. Those are of no concern to the local gendarmerie as long as they can meet some unmentionable quota of snared horny taxpayers. Job well done, folks.
[QUOTE=Zaphod II; 1467777]Let me tell you something about how Vice operates, once you have put your foot in your mouth and said the wrong thing the backup officers roll up on you from out of no where and within 10 seconds I had guns drawn on me and was told to get out of the vehicle and not touch anything, under those circumstances your options are fairly limited to doing what they tell you to do. There was no negotiating, no "wait wait this is a mistake" I was cuffed an stuffed in the back of truck withing 45 seconds of it all.
I thank you for all your support, and again my real reason for posting this is just hopefully help you guys not make the same mistake, some of you may be married, and I was with a few guys in the van who were and once they got released they had even bigger issues to deal with at home. One Guy even said he wasn't going home, he was in wayyy too much trouble.
I got complacent thinking I could just do this forever with no problems other than the occasional bad date, but there are real issues to this. Everyone has to decide what's best for them, I'm not here to tell you guys your business, just to spread the word to be careful.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. If we could only not think with the little guy. Being an extremely lucky happily married man, I really need to rethink my habit. Losing everything over a hummer just ain't worth it. Anyone ever get the same treatment at an AMP.
Imagine if LE posted pics of streetwalkers here that were actually LE just to lure us all in. Now that is scary.
Safe Mongering everyone.
NO! No! No! No! You'd be in a world of shit. (I hope you were joking.)
[QUOTE=TrublMaykr; 1467457]What was that, officer? Soliciting prostitution? NEVER! I wouldn't do anything of the sort. I'm trying to recruit these young ladies to work for my housekeeping service. Officer, you may have job security, but don't you realize there's an unemployment crisis in this city? I represent the Second Chance Mission (produce business card) , and it's our project to find gainful employment in domestic services for those who need it. Which clearly applies to these young ladies, since they're reduced to wandering the streets seeking opportunities in the harsh economic environment created by the politicians who couldn't care less.
In fact, while you're here, would you care to make a monetary donation to help us advance our cause?[/QUOTE]Who are you going to say this too; the beat cop. Did you forget this was a sting? Is that what you said to the female cop that you solicited outside of your car?
That card better be legit or you've just added on some new charges. And! If the card is legit, you'd better have a pretty understanding boss. You've just lied to a Police Officer and given him evident. They are not going to take your word. The DA is going to check it out and if you lied – watch out. If you are telling the truth and you do work for such an agency the DA could threaten an investigation into it's operation. Your boss isn't going to like that. Any agency doing that kind of work would inform LE of their operation and make the authorities aware of their being in the area. Once you are caught in a lie your lawyer cannot help you. Cops are not dumb. They can always investigate and if you're legit; let you go. No harm done. If you are lying – your ass is grass.
The cops on the avenue do this type of thing as a matter of routine. They do it every day; they've been doing it for years – they are trained. It is part of their job to catch you in a lie. On the other hand, how much practice have you had at this? I am assuming it's not something you do every day.
You have the right to remain silent. Do so! You have the right to have an attorney. Get one! If you think you can bet the charge. The only way to bet the system is to use the system.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 1467954]NO! No! No! No! You'd be in a world of shit. (I hope you were joking.)
Who are you going to say this too; the beat cop. Did you forget this was a sting? Is that what you said to the female cop that you solicited outside of your car?
That card better be legit or you've just added on some new charges. And! If the card is legit, you'd better have a pretty understanding boss. You've just lied to a Police Officer and given him evident. They are not going to take your word. The the is going to check it out and if you lied – watch out. If you are telling the truth and you do work for such an agency the the could threaten an investigation into it's operation. Your boss isn't going to like that. Any agency doing that kind of work would inform LE of their operation and make the authorities aware of their being in the area. Once you are caught in a lie your lawyer cannot help you. Cops are not dumb. They can always investigate and if you're legit; let you go. No harm done. If you are lying – your ass is grass.
The cops on the avenue do this type of thing as a matter of routine. They do it every day; they've been doing it for years – they are trained. It is part of their job to catch you in a lie. On the other hand, how much practice have you had at this? I am assuming it's not something you do every day.
You have the right to remain silent. Do so! You have the right to have an attorney. Get one! If you think you can bet the charge. The only way to bet the system is to use the system.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]Noooooo. Of course I was kidding! That whole thing was just a gag.
In seriousness. You're absolutely correct that the ONLY sensible response if anyone gets caught in that kind of sting is SILENCE. Remember the old military rule: name, rank, and serial number. There was a reason for that!
[quote=zaphod ii; 1467777]let me tell you something about how vice operates, once you have put your foot in your mouth and said the wrong thing the backup officers roll up on you from out of no where and within 10 seconds i had guns drawn on me and was told to get out of the vehicle and not touch anything, under those circumstances your options are fairly limited to doing what they tell you to do. there was no negotiating, no "wait wait this is a mistake" i was cuffed an stuffed in the back of truck withing 45 seconds of it all.
i thank you for all your support, and again my real reason for posting this is just hopefully help you guys not make the same mistake, some of you may be married, and i was with a few guys in the van who were and once they got released they had even bigger issues to deal with at home. one guy even said he wasn't going home, he was in wayyy too much trouble.
i got complacent thinking i could just do this forever with no problems other than the occasional bad date, but there are real issues to this. everyone has to decide what's best for them, i'm not here to tell you guys your business, just to spread the word to be careful.[/quote]geez, things have changed in philly in the last 15-20 years. i got pulled over with a lady in the mid90s and the cop just gave me the scared straight talk. he took the lady off to the roundhouse, but let me go. soon after that i moved out of state. even worse, in 1986, i got caught soliciting an undercover cop after an office happy hour and the car cops gave me a talking to and a $150 fine and dropped me off at my dorm at drexel. even though, i was **** and noticeably drunk, that's all that happenned.
coming back philly in august for a wedding, and was thinking of hitting the avenue, but maybe not now. after reading the forum, i'm bummed that the patio is gone, that was a great place for for an afternoon stop! i wish this site had existed in the 90s, when i lived in philly. i'll have to keep reading the forum to see if the avenue is still worth checking out.
anyway, good luck zaphod. hope it all works out for you.
slapster