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I have two thoughts on all this.
First, this is how markets work, guys. A thing is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it. Period, end of story. This is basically what Download is explaining.
Second, I don't want to say that no publicity is bad publicity, but. I had no idea who Kora was, but hell if every person on here hasn't checked out her page now. I wonder what the value of that is to her.
[QUOTE=DMVAverageJoe;7449313]While $1,000 per hour is indeed at the higher end relative to most agency K-girls, Camille for some time has successfully maintained $1,300 rates for a couple of years without significant pushback. At this tier, the clientele is largely price-insensitivecorporate executives, professional athletes, and similar profileswho value discretion, presentation, and consistency over marginal savings.
So yes, $1,000+ has a clear, sustainable market among affluent regulars; it's less about the absolute amount and more about the perceived exclusivity and service level that justifies positioning above the standard agency range.
[URL]http://www.hellocamille.com/rates/[/URL][/QUOTE]I fondly remember those days back when she was Sela at $500/ hr, and I could afford her. She's an American success story. And good for her, charging what the market will bear. Although personally, it's my loss.
Well I guess that's it. She's starting an OF. From her replies sounds like she'll be taking cock on camera too. Good for her. I'm glad we all got to fuck her haha. She's a champ at taking cock so don't see why she won't do well.
[QUOTE=BenCom;7449625]I have two thoughts on all this. First, this is how markets work, guys. A thing is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it. Period, end of story. This is basically what Download is explaining. Second, I don't want to say that no publicity is bad publicity, but. I had no idea who Kora was, but hell if every person on here hasn't checked out her page now. I wonder what the value of that is to her.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JstlMX;7450034]Well I guess that's it. She's starting an OF. From her replies sounds like she'll be taking cock on camera too. Good for her. I'm glad we all got to fuck her haha. She's a champ at taking cock so don't see why she won't do well.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JacobsPatrick;7449323]Or moving towards the sugar daddy model. Either way, it's interesting to watch, like a reality tv show! It's good to see that she's making her own way.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LesTosterone;7449293]Disclosure. I have not seen Kora. But there are likely basic economic principles behind her decision to double rates. If, at $500, she is fully booked and is refusing droves of potential customers, then an increase is smart. If, at $1 k, she is still half booked, then her income remains the same while doing half the work. If her bookings dip below half, then her income drops. At that point it would be smart for her to then reduce the price to increase bookings and at least maintain her income. The optimal price for her would be the one that keeps her fully booked, with little to no refusals.[/QUOTE]FYI.
T e R / kgirl board, someone mentioned Kora was "Kora aka Blue Star aka Suzi aka Suzy aka SA Lisa aka AA Tiara aka Seowoo."
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girls-113/re-are-you-talking-40072?page=1[/URL]
FYI.
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/suzy---suzi-7022714984-354449[/URL]
[URL]https://littletokyolv.com/g5/bbs/content.php?co_id=suzy[/URL]
[QUOTE=DMVAverageJoe;7450231]FYI.
T e R / kgirl board, someone mentioned Kora was "Kora aka Blue Star aka Suzi aka Suzy aka SA Lisa aka AA Tiara aka Seowoo."
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/k-girls-113/re-are-you-talking-40072?page=1[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMVAverageJoe;7450352]FYI.
[URL]https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/suzy---suzi-7022714984-354449[/URL]
[URL]https://littletokyolv.com/g5/bbs/content.php?co_id=suzy[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah man she's been working a long time. Used to be a BB provider for much cheaper when she was younger. Those guys got so lucky!
[QUOTE=DMV Average Joe;7450231]FYI.
T e R / kgirl board, someone mentioned Kora was "Kora aka Blue Star aka Suzi aka Suzy aka SA Lisa aka AA Tiara aka Seowoo."[/QUOTE]
Yes, she was Bluestar and other names. It's true that her pricing doesn't work for me, I calculated it out and even at SS-Tier she couldn't charge more than 800. I can film SS-Tier jgirls for less! But that's just me, I totally get someone else would pay it. It's not going to be a lot of guys.
It's good and sometimes even healthy to complain about the pricing to get it out of your system, go ahead. But it's also futile, and there is actually a better way. Just let the rich guys throw their money at super premium girls while we point out the better value girls. That is the way.
If people are are allowed to complain, surely I am also allowed to call it a waste of time and energy. I've seen people do this 20 years on stripper prices, and they get stuck with negative energy with no upside. I always tried to talk them out of it because they were not having fun doing that. So I know it feels good to complain at first, but you're going to end up disappointed to expect anything. Some day, every person will come to that realization about life itself. That you have a limited amount of time and energy to spend. Spend that on finding your girl!
[B]The Only Way To Beat GPS[/B]
I've seen the end game, and there is a better way to fight back. In Japan, I often run into an oppai pub jgirl who turns GPS 2nd or 3rd visit and asks me to buy her champagne. What do I do? I say "maybe next time" and ask for another girl after her time is up. Then I lick her rival's tits. Depending on the club, there is a 50-50 chance she can watch me do it and go to town (see attached cartoon). The important point is instead of looking over at her to see if she's watching me, I stop giving a fuck about her. Forever. I focus on my girl. You can try it any other way you like, you'll never outdo my solution.
That is true victory, and a profound lesson I hope each guy eventually gains. The same as the lessons on FOMO, it takes some people 10 or 20 years to figure it out. I've said these things in the hope it helps someone skip ahead a few years in that process of realization.
[QUOTE=Download X;7449147]This is good advice. If you got a bad session, say so. But if you don't like the price of a girl you aren't going to see, there's no point. Put that energy elsewhere.
It's natural to complain about the price, complain if you want. That won't lower the price. I do remember people complained so hard about Baby Arin raising her bb rate from 0 to 100. LA had spent months complaining about it telling her to leave. So she did! She went off and made a bunch of other cities very happy instead. LA has every right to complain if they want..[/QUOTE]
As I said, I came here to help people avoid re-inventing the wheel. It's all happened before. So find your girl and lick her tits.
[B]Find the Better Value[/B]
Attached is what oppai pubs in Japan are like. Go with a Japanese speaking friend, or study it about 2-4 years and go yourself. Or, go to Luxe which doesn't have top tier girls but is 100% English friendly. I spent $850 to play with 30 jgirls last trip, the vast majority HYA ranging from S-Tier to B-Tier. Mid-tier clubs like Luxe are A-Tier through C-Tier. It is dirt cheap imo and the girls are topless. I believe I never saw the same pair of tits twice.
Oh look, $850 for 30 girls over the course of 2 weeks. That works out to be $28 per girl (you get about 10-12 minutes each). I am biased for jgirls, but some were about as hot as Kora. Of course I can only touch and kiss them all over, but since 850 is less than 1000 I'm okay with that. It is possible to take some of them out if you have extra tips and speak enough Japanese, though I wouldn't recommend it (try Tokyo Amateur Escorts if you just want to bang, it's better). If you will visit Japan someday, do a CTRL+F search for Luxe. It is a good starter oppai pub that is 100% English friendly, some of the staff are Americans:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4403-Japan-guides-focusing-on-Oppai-Pubs-Soapland-Delivery-Health[/URL] Japan Guides
First image is how an oppai pub works, though it is a bit more packed than the cartoon. Next are two photos of Miyu, the first girl Leicester sent me last trip. Japan prefers naturals, but MMs are getting a bit more common these days and she has them. Japanese girls tend to get high quality MMs imo. Next is Reika, like most oppai pub girls she has naturals and they were small. She knows that, so she focused on tongue play. Would barely let me even talk, hoping I don't notice her small naturals. Then Rito from Hosekinobako, and Mimi also from Hosekinobako. Mimi also had MMs, she had the most perct white and full breasts. Well, that's what you get for $850 30 jgirls. If you go Leicester, a good number are of this caliber. Next is Anzu, a dancer. Anzu is the same spec as an SS-Tier jgirl, who charge about 500-600 hr max. Then JAV star Ichika Nagano, who is still working. Ichika is $255 / hr btw. So now you know why I don't even bother complaining. Don't waste your time on FOMO. Just point out all the better girls.
I'm wildly confused here.
We seem to be talking about a girl (Kora) for 3 straight days.
Not some girl we all want to see but to complain about the price (cause we probably want to see her, me included, but don't want to pay 1 k).
(I'm seriously thinking about it since I never seen her).
Does anyone honestly think if we find out lets just say she is 40 years old, she going to lower her price?
Yet we still want to talk about her?
Shout out to the person that wasted their time to just find out she older (wow shocker a Korean girl is older then she says).
I'm so shocked.
I mean women never lie about their age especially Korean women?
On a serious note shout out to that person cause I never seen a pic of Kora (if that is her).
The thing about it is I never seen a ad for Kora until she came Asian Gem this year.
I heard about her every time for a while now (past two year) is, "she hot, the pretty, she my atf, she the best I been with, she perfect and blah blah blah ".
I seen her on other boards of "top ten hot Koreans" and she always on the list so I doubt if she say 40 years old that's going to stop people from seeing her.
Funny thing is only older mongers (rich) would be able to afford her and I would highly doubt they care if she say 40 years old they just care if she hot.
If anything they might like that she looks much younger then her age and is more mature then the 20 year old.
You know how she will lower her price?
If no one goes that's how, not people complaining on a board for 3 days now.
Why is no one talking about this new girl someone mentioned Baby Milk at Asiantopmodel, she suppose to be a shorties, super cute girl and new to this.
A person on this board even said he had a good time and he saw her twice in FLA.
That's who I'm going to see next.
There this new amazonan Korean / Japanese girl (Ariana) I saw her and wrote a review (best ass I seen and touch this year, best fdau ever in my monger career).
I don't personally mind complaining about prices but day 3? Come on man we all got better thing to do with our time.
We are not changing it only the market will.
Sorry to everyone but this is just getting ridiculous now.
I totally agree with you. I for one am very confused by all the conversation around one provider.
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7450494]I'm wildly confused here.
We seem to be talking about a girl (Kora) for 3 straight days.
Not some girl we all want to see but to complain about the price (cause we probably want to see her, me included, but don't want to pay 1 k).
(I'm seriously thinking about it since I never seen her).
Does anyone honestly think if we find out lets just say she is 40 years old, she going to lower her price?
Yet we still want to talk about her?
Shout out to the person that wasted their time to just find out she older (wow shocker a Korean girl is older then she says).
I'm so shocked.
I mean women never lie about their age especially Korean women?
On a serious note shout out to that person cause I never seen a pic of Kora (if that is her).
The thing about it is I never seen a ad for Kora until she came Asian Gem this year.
I heard about her every time for a while now (past two year) is, "she hot, the pretty, she my atf, she the best I been with, she perfect and blah blah blah ".
I seen her on other boards of "top ten hot Koreans" and she always on the list so I doubt if she say 40 years old that's going to stop people from seeing her.
Funny thing is only older mongers (rich) would be able to afford her and I would highly doubt they care if she say 40 years old they just care if she hot.
If anything they might like that she looks much younger then her age and is more mature then the 20 year old.
You know how she will lower her price?
If no one goes that's how, not people complaining on a board for 3 days now.
Why is no one talking about this new girl someone mentioned Baby Milk at Asiantopmodel, she suppose to be a shorties, super cute girl and new to this.
A person on this board even said he had a good time and he saw her twice in FLA.
That's who I'm going to see next.
There this new amazonan Korean / Japanese girl (Ariana) I saw her and wrote a review (best ass I seen and touch this year, best fdau ever in my monger career).
I don't personally mind complaining about prices but day 3? Come on man we all got better thing to do with our time.
We are not changing it only the market will.
Sorry to everyone but this is just getting ridiculous now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomk2323;7450512]I totally agree with you. I for one am very confused by all the conversation around one provider.[/QUOTE]People just responding. She would randomly tweet that people are talking shit about her even though I didn't see any negative reviews. People respond, she gets mad and doubles her rate, people respond, now she's going to take cock on camera, people respond. This isn't that difficult to understand LOL.
[QUOTE=JstlMX;7450521]People just responding. She would randomly tweet that people are talking shit about her even though I didn't see any negative reviews. People respond, she gets mad and doubles her rate, people respond, now she's going to take cock on camera, people respond. This isn't that difficult to understand LOL.[/QUOTE]I think we should focus on actual reviews and experiences we are having. So yes it is odd to me. But of course, you and others can type whatever you like. Personally over this topic unless someone posts an actual review of her which would be informative to read.
Moving on.
[QUOTE=Tomk2323;7450526]I think we should focus on actual reviews and experiences we are having. So yes it is odd to me. But of course, you and others can type whatever you like. Personally over this topic unless someone posts an actual review of her which would be informative to read.
Moving on.[/QUOTE]Yeah. That's the magic of not reading shit you don't want to.
Anyone booked an appointment with her in VA? Her tryst link and site still has her in VA with a touring rate of $500.
[QUOTE=JstlMX;7450521]People just responding. She would randomly tweet that people are talking shit about her even though I didn't see any negative reviews. People respond, she gets mad and doubles her rate, people respond, now she's going to take cock on camera, people respond. This isn't that difficult to understand LOL.[/QUOTE]Is your claim that all the drama here is somehow orchestrated? Or, like another suggested, that all the posts and drama are doing nothing but allowing her to raise her rate?
Also saw Ariana and I totally agree with you. Amazing lady. Body and performance is out of this world.
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7450494]I'm wildly confused here.
We seem to be talking about a girl (Kora) for 3 straight days.
Not some girl we all want to see but to complain about the price (cause we probably want to see her, me included, but don't want to pay 1 k).
(I'm seriously thinking about it since I never seen her).
Does anyone honestly think if we find out lets just say she is 40 years old, she going to lower her price?
Yet we still want to talk about her?
Shout out to the person that wasted their time to just find out she older (wow shocker a Korean girl is older then she says).
I'm so shocked.
I mean women never lie about their age especially Korean women?
On a serious note shout out to that person cause I never seen a pic of Kora (if that is her).
The thing about it is I never seen a ad for Kora until she came Asian Gem this year.
I heard about her every time for a while now (past two year) is, "she hot, the pretty, she my atf, she the best I been with, she perfect and blah blah blah ".
I seen her on other boards of "top ten hot Koreans" and she always on the list so I doubt if she say 40 years old that's going to stop people from seeing her.
Funny thing is only older mongers (rich) would be able to afford her and I would highly doubt they care if she say 40 years old they just care if she hot.
If anything they might like that she looks much younger then her age and is more mature then the 20 year old.
You know how she will lower her price?
If no one goes that's how, not people complaining on a board for 3 days now.
Why is no one talking about this new girl someone mentioned Baby Milk at Asiantopmodel, she suppose to be a shorties, super cute girl and new to this.
A person on this board even said he had a good time and he saw her twice in FLA.
That's who I'm going to see next.
There this new amazonan Korean / Japanese girl (Ariana) I saw her and wrote a review (best ass I seen and touch this year, best fdau ever in my monger career).
I don't personally mind complaining about prices but day 3? Come on man we all got better thing to do with our time.
We are not changing it only the market will.
Sorry to everyone but this is just getting ridiculous now.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7450494]I seen her on other boards of "top ten hot Koreans" and she always on the list [/QUOTE]Do you have a link to this "top 10 hot Koreans" list?
Also, I would guess that 80% of touring kgirls are older than 30, most are over 35. Everyone lies about their age; I even knock 10 years off my age, when asked. HA!