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[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3087200]Guys, there's a thread for this sort of thing.[/QUOTE]That's why I will say no more on the subject. Just don't like being accused of being a rapist.

[QUOTE=PartTimePlayer;3087202]She did not live up to what she said she would do. And that is the only reason I did what I did to her. She didn't like come on her face or in her hair and I didn't like getting scammed into an upsell situation. She did not live up to what she said she would do. And that is the only reason I did what I did to her. I do treat people as human beings and not pieces of meat. Respect is a 2 Way St.[/QUOTE]Dude she collected money and didn't provide promised service. She should have offered some cash back or something. No matter what the profession you got to practice some business ethics LOL.

[QUOTE=PartTimePlayer;3087205]That's why I will say no more on the subject. Just don't like being accused of being a rapist.[/QUOTE]That was definitely an overreaction, what you did comes nowhere close to any kind of "assault" or anything else. Having said that, it's far too risky, imo, to do something like what you did when you're just not in control of the situation. You already know she's unscrupulous if she's a scammer / upseller. No telling how she might react if you piss her off. Better to just remove yourself from the situation as quickly as possible and then warn others about giving their business to that particular provider. Just too many ways that situation could end badly when you try to retaliate like that.

[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3087217]That was definitely an overreaction, what you did comes nowhere close to any kind of "assault" or anything else. Having said that, it's far too risky, imo, to do something like what you did when you're just not in control of the situation. You already know she's unscrupulous if she's a scammer / upseller. No telling how she might react if you piss her off. Better to just remove yourself from the situation as quickly as possible and then warn others about giving their business to that particular provider. Just too many ways that situation could end badly when you try to retaliate like that.[/QUOTE]But that was a long time ago when I first started playing the game. Put it this way, like I said it was a girl from the Phoenix new paper. I'd say about 20 years ago. I've learned a lot since then And I am learning more each time I play.

[QUOTE=PartTimePlayer;3087231]But that was a long time ago when I first started playing the game. Put it this way, like I said it was a girl from the Phoenix new paper. I'd say about 20 years ago. I've learned a lot since then And I am learning more each time I play.[/QUOTE]Understood. I just don't think it's the sort of behavior we should be encouraging, particularly among the younger mongers in this day and age (you know how impressionable some of these young whipper-snappers can be, LOL).

[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3087253]Understood. I just don't think it's the sort of behavior we should be encouraging, particularly among the younger mongers in this day and age (you know how impressionable some of these young whipper-snappers can be, LOL).[/QUOTE]I will keep my nose clean LOL.

[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3087217]That was definitely an overreaction, what you did comes nowhere close to any kind of "assault" or anything else. Having said that, it's far too risky, imo, to do something like what you did when you're just not in control of the situation. You already know she's unscrupulous if she's a scammer / upseller. No telling how she might react if you piss her off. Better to just remove yourself from the situation as quickly as possible and then warn others about giving their business to that particular provider. Just too many ways that situation could end badly when you try to retaliate like that.[/QUOTE]I have to side with Part Time Player, especially if she had promised something she didn't deliver. This is another reason why I do not pay up front. If she scams she doesn't get paid. I wouldn't have to bother messing up her hair. Not getting paid is worse punishment and a better lesson for her not to scam or she will get scammed back. Trust me when I tell you if they don't have the money first you are 98% guaranteed a job well done. I will bet that if PartTimePlayer had told her to catch it all TC or no money she would have done it. I have seen more than one girl gag and puke and spit after they catch it all but those girls all got paid for doing the best they could. I tell everyone of them the same thing, I don't care whether you spit or swallow as long as you catch it all in your mouth till completion and you will get your money upon completion. No happy ending, no money honey.

[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3081790]100% agree with this. I understand withholding certain information from public posts and only giving it out via PM to established users, etc. But there's ALWAYS a way to at least provide useful information, even while withholding the "juicy details", so to speak.[/QUOTE]With the exception of the practice of trading info in pm which I never cared for.

The more information that is posted will increase the number of users that visit this site.

Though I also don't care for newcomers wanting info on so and so without doing any research.

[QUOTE=CadillaCock;3088365]I have to side with Part Time Player, especially if she had promised something she didn't deliver. This is another reason why I do not pay up front. If she scams she doesn't get paid. I wouldn't have to bother messing up her hair. Not getting paid is worse punishment and a better lesson for her not to scam or she will get scammed back. Trust me when I tell you if they don't have the money first you are 98% guaranteed a job well done. I will bet that if PartTimePlayer had told her to catch it all TC or no money she would have done it. I have seen more than one girl gag and puke and spit after they catch it all but those girls all got paid for doing the best they could. I tell everyone of them the same thing, I don't care whether you spit or swallow as long as you catch it all in your mouth till completion and you will get your money upon completion. No happy ending, no money honey.[/QUOTE]Sure, if the provider agrees to provide service without receiving payment first. Not all of them will. And before you say that any provider who demands payment first is going to provide bad service, I feel the need to point out that there are PLENTY of guys in this hobby who are just as unscrupulous as the scamming / upselling providers, and will go see a provider with the intention of shorting her on the donation, or even trying to get away without paying at all. They have just as much reason to ask for payment up front as you no doubt feel that you have for NOT paying up front. Trust is a two way street.

[QUOTE=CadillaCock;3088365]I have to side with Part Time Player, especially if she had promised something she didn't deliver. This is another reason why I do not pay up front. If she scams she doesn't get paid. I wouldn't have to bother messing up her hair. Not getting paid is worse punishment and a better lesson for her not to scam or she will get scammed back. Trust me when I tell you if they don't have the money first you are 98% guaranteed a job well done. I will bet that if PartTimePlayer had told her to catch it all TC or no money she would have done it. I have seen more than one girl gag and puke and spit after they catch it all but those girls all got paid for doing the best they could. I tell everyone of them the same thing, I don't care whether you spit or swallow as long as you catch it all in your mouth till completion and you will get your money upon completion. No happy ending, no money honey.[/QUOTE]That was a long time ago. Like 20 years. It was a girl from the Phoenix new paper. I never give the donation upfront anymore. Furthest I will go It is half upfront.

[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3088919]Sure, if the provider agrees to provide service without receiving payment first. Not all of them will. And before you say that any provider who demands payment first is going to provide bad service, I feel the need to point out that there are PLENTY of guys in this hobby who are just as unscrupulous as the scamming / upselling providers, and will go see a provider with the intention of shorting her on the donation, or even trying to get away without paying at all. They have just as much reason to ask for payment up front as you no doubt feel that you have for NOT paying up front. Trust is a two way street.[/QUOTE]Well that all depends on your tact and how you play the game. I can honestly say that I have been with many good providers that always ask clients for the payment up front but I convinced them otherwise and gained their trust before I gave it. I have seen 100's of them over the years from escorts to strippers, to SW's and in all those girls there were only 2 ever that I did not pay and for very good reason. The first one was a stripper that promised me a BBBJCIM and CFS but when we got into the CR she said I don't do any sex but it will still be fun. I walked out of the booth and didn't pay her. She thought she had me since I had already paid 30 for the room and of course I lost the 30, but would have lost 130! The other one was a BP girl that would promise you whatever you wanted to hear and had her pimp hiding in the closet. Every guy who came through her door put the money down and lost it when her pimp came out of the closet and started acting like a jealous bf. She didn't have my money so the pimp didn't get it. He tried but he got a real big surprise and it wasn't my money. You say trust is a two way street and that is fine if it works for you, but I have my own set of rules. I have sex with providers two to three times a week and I dine out two to three times a week. I don't pay a restaurant up front before I dine and I don't pay a provider up front before she dines on me and or I dine on her, LOL. Granted I would have only got burnt twice and it wouldn't make me or break me but even getting burnt only twice is just not fun for anyone and besides I like playing the game as much as they do to see if I can get their trust first. I think I can honestly say that most girls even the legitimate ones will try even harder, last longer, and go the extra mile knowing they have to earn the money instead of just getting it up front. Also I would say that most of the ones that never ask for money up front love their job so much they will do it well and will always get paid for supplying stellar service.

[QUOTE=Andrew70;3091882]I have a good idea who it is, our red haired friend.[/QUOTE]What is the purpose of this post? There are many providers who do BBBJ, and none of them ask to see recent STD screening results before seeing a client. No one else has reported any issues after seeing her, and your incident was MONTHS ago. Unless you have some actual evidence, this is a completely baseless accusation, and frankly almost seems like you have some personal vendetta here.

[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3092353]What is the purpose of this post? There are many providers who do BBBJ, and none of them ask to see recent STD screening results before seeing a client. No one else has reported any issues after seeing her, and your incident was MONTHS ago. Unless you have some actual evidence, this is a completely baseless accusation, and frankly almost seems like you have some personal vendetta here.[/QUOTE]To me this response sounds like the A2's superbuddy 'douchebag' smokescreen with the greek names. After all maybe smokescreen is a2 their writting is very comparable!

[QUOTE=Bozscaggs;3093109]To me this response sounds like the A2's superbuddy 'douchebag' smokescreen with the greek names. After all maybe smokescreen is a2 their writting is very comparable![/QUOTE]LOL, you're obsessed with this "smokescreen" person. Seek help.

Pretty ballsy for a guy that's been around for roughly 6 weeks to whine that we are "off topic" when you have a total of 4 posts of which only one can be considered a report. And that is on a provider that the whole state has seen and reported on as well.

Putting together a list? Oh, you mean a list of what OTHERS have reported? Pretty dumb when everyone knows that not only YMMV in this hobby but that to get any creds here you need to CONTRIBUTE not whine about what others are not doing if you're not doing it yourself. Hypocrite.

Waaaaaah, all you boys need to hurry up and do all my work for me faster.

[QUOTE=CanJockey;3098937]Put the list up and I am sure you will get some good feedback.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RIRed;3097076]Last couple posts veering off the providence BP theme it seems.

Let's get back to business, I am trying to put together a top 5 or top 10 list (if there are that many) of local BP girls I should see.

I have some in mind and wanted to see what the old pros on here think. I've been reading up and using other sites to put this list together, but can only go so far in other places without getting status. This board has been a great resource for a newbie, thank you all![/QUOTE]