Bareback Providers

[QUOTE=HoochiePapa;7551570]Anyway, I'm probably going to take a break it's been slim pickings I don't know if anyone else is going through it. Plus I don't enjoy the attention this place is getting lately either.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this. After nearly 2 decades in the hobby, I'm about to take another hiatus. Starting to get jaded with service creeping far below value in most cases, to wit:

Over $500 - Out.

CBJ. Out.

À la cart menu. Out, I don't want to use a calculator to figure out how much I need to pay.

Rules that rival the 10 commandments. Out.

Any Madams or other reference to Dominatrix. Out, not my thing.

Through an agency. Out.

History of ghosting / stealing deposits. Out.

Posting foods pics / lingerie gifts from your dates. Out.

Refer to yourself as a muse or coquettish. Out, you are trying to convince us you are smart.

Constantly engaging in drama on other sites. Out.

Lecturing men on X on how to treat a woman. Out.

Piercings through lip or mid-nose. Out.

Billboard tats on the chest. Out.

Rainbow hair. Out.

Under 30 - Out, they are deathly afraid of real conversation and likely on their phone the whole time.

Former / current streetwalker. Out.

Evidence of meth teeth or other habits. Out.

Require Google Translate. Out.

Jack up your rates because you did a porn scene and now call yourself a porn star. Out.

Porn star. Out.

Retired, but oh just kidding I'm back! - Out.

I could go on.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7395246]Her ad insinuates that she wants to get pregnant? Anyone have any info? [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/fertile-wicked-and-waiting.3126121/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Looks like she is no longer on TNA. Anyone know what happened to her.

[QUOTE=Brinkcam99;7551634]I'm with you on this. After nearly 2 decades in the hobby, I'm about to take another hiatus. Starting to get jaded with service creeping far below value in most cases, to wit:

Over $500 - Out.

CBJ. Out.

la cart menu. Out, I don't want to use a calculator to figure out how much I need to pay.

Rules that rival the 10 commandments. Out.

Any Madams or other reference to Dominatrix. Out, not my thing.

Through an agency. Out.

History of ghosting / stealing deposits. Out.

Posting foods pics / lingerie gifts from your dates. Out.

Refer to yourself as a muse or coquettish. Out, you are trying to convince us you are smart.

Constantly engaging in drama on other sites. Out.

Lecturing men on X on how to treat a woman. Out.

Piercings through lip or mid-nose. Out.

Billboard tats on the chest. Out.

Rainbow hair. Out.

Under 30 - Out, they are deathly afraid of real conversation and likely on their phone the whole time.

Former / current streetwalker. Out.

Evidence of meth teeth or other habits. Out.

Require Google Translate. Out.

Jack up your rates because you did a porn scene and now call yourself a porn star. Out.

Porn star. Out.

Retired, but oh just kidding I'm back! - Out.

I could go on.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. My hobby time over the last year has been this super downward trajectory too. For me it has been people trying to charge even higher rates to do an OC, I live in a area where I am 7-15 min from all of the hotels / motels and these tricks think I am going to pay an extra hundred or more for them to come to me LOL also it's super slim pickings for any sort of GFE activity traveling so I am just going to wait until the vultures starve them selves out.

When I went to Cali last year there was no shortage of hot GFE action and everyone I reached out to was fast to respond and able to set something up within an hour, Out here I feel like I am lucky if I hear back from someone in 1-3 days for a multi hour thing.

Same. I'm finding providers to be lazy, lacking effort and seemingly don't care if they get my business or not. Throw in some attitude and I'm just generally done with it. I've also been having a more difficulty finding bare service and I'm just not willing to pay a crazy amount if I do find one who is interested. My hobbying has pretty much gone down to zero which is wild for how active I used to be.

[QUOTE=Brinkcam99;7551634]I'm with you on this. After nearly 2 decades in the hobby, I'm about to take another hiatus. Starting to get jaded with service creeping far below value in most cases[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RocDiesel;7551905]I couldn't agree more. My hobby time over the last year has been this super downward trajectory too. For me it has been people trying to charge even higher rates to do an OC, I live in a area where I am 7-15 min from all of the hotels / motels and these tricks think I am going to pay an extra hundred or more for them to come to me LOL also it's super slim pickings for any sort of GFE activity traveling so I am just going to wait until the vultures starve them selves out.

When I went to Cali last year there was no shortage of hot GFE action and everyone I reached out to was fast to respond and able to set something up within an hour, Out here I feel like I am lucky if I hear back from someone in 1-3 days for a multi hour thing.[/QUOTE]I see the same thing with dating around here. Low effort, terrible communication, high entitlement. You have to bend over backwards and lower your standards dramatically for people that likely don't deserve a fraction of the attention they get. I honestly think it's the area itself and the demographics, especially when you see other cities have nowhere near the same problems we do.

[QUOTE=HelloThar;7552208]I see the same thing with dating around here. Low effort, terrible communication, high entitlement. You have to bend over backwards and lower your standards dramatically for people that likely don't deserve a fraction of the attention they get. I honestly think it's the area itself and the demographics, especially when you see other cities have nowhere near the same problems we do.[/QUOTE]I'd argue that Seattle has had this problem, in one form or another, for like forty years.

There are lots of little cliques here and a lot of girls don't play outside those cliques. So if you are on the outside looking in there is no good way to get inside.

I never realized this until I spent a winter in LA and had more pussy than I had in the previous five in Seattle. And better. Some of that is because every sort-of-hawt girl decides she needs to go to LA to be a movie star at some point and a lot of them land there and end up underemployed and often bored.

I do think the shitty civilian dating market makes the providing also shitty.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7552331]I'd argue that Seattle has had this problem, in one form or another, for like forty years.

There are lots of little cliques here and a lot of girls don't play outside those cliques. So if you are on the outside looking in there is no good way to get inside.

I never realized this until I spent a winter in LA and had more pussy than I had in the previous five in Seattle. And better. Some of that is because every sort-of-hawt girl decides she needs to go to LA to be a movie star at some point and a lot of them land there and end up underemployed and often bored.

I do think the shitty civilian dating market makes the providing also shitty.[/QUOTE]I completely agree and believe it has to do with the Seattle freeze. No idea why people around here feel so entitled but anytime I leave town I can actually have a decent conversation with a woman, whether I'm wanting to hook up with them or not. Around here it's almost impossible to just have a decent conversation.

There is an entitlement attitude in Portland and Seattle among the sex worker community that has really warped the market. They are killing drmand and think that the solution to lost income is to raise prices for the customers that remain. The GPS board exemplifies this problem but was not the source. I don't know if it is feminism or what, but I have seen for at least 10 years a very concerted effort by strippers and 8-ish years by escorts to jack up rates relentlessly. All the while complaining that its slow in the clubs or on the boards. Covid certainly didn't help. Strippers charging crazy amounts for lap dances. Escorts charging crazy amounts to fuck. The diversification of SW into things like baristas making money making coffee in skimpy outfits (and online SW has given girls more options. But the problem started before those became much of a thing.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7552331]I'd argue that Seattle has had this problem, in one form or another, for like forty years.

There are lots of little cliques here and a lot of girls don't play outside those cliques. So if you are on the outside looking in there is no good way to get inside.

I never realized this until I spent a winter in LA and had more pussy than I had in the previous five in Seattle. And better. Some of that is because every sort-of-hawt girl decides she needs to go to LA to be a movie star at some point and a lot of them land there and end up underemployed and often bored.

I do think the shitty civilian dating market makes the providing also shitty.[/QUOTE]As one who has had extensive experience now in both the civilian and hobbyist scene here, I 100% believe there's a correlation with the shitty dating market and provider service.

When you have such a high number of technically savvy but soft, socially awkward guys, a ton of entitled and jaded women result that seems to permeate in all aspects of interactions and services. People here are not able to handle conflicts nor communicate well at all so ghosting and flaking is normalized. I've also read so many stories of women showing much more intention with dating literally anywhere other than the PNW. I firmly believe many here wouldn't even need to be in the hobby scene if living elsewhere due to options (though a few of you would get your kicks still).

Unfortunately I don't think any of this will change anytime soon unless there's a massive culture / demographic shift.

So rates will continue to rise until providers price themselves out completely and have to find alternate employment.

If you're willing to drive a few hours, Vancouver has a better selection of girls than Seattle does. On average prettier and slightly more attentive (not as good as LA though). Because escorting is also semi legal up there, most but not all girls are more willing to discuss menu beforehand which is nice as someone who really enjoys Greek. The exchange rate also makes it a little cheaper. The problem is though, BBFS is pretty much nonexistent up there in my experience. Just no where comes even remotely close to how good the BBFS scene is compared to Las Vegas and LA. Girls who are worth their salt are more likely to move to those cities because of the thriving scenes. I've booked a few pornstars that have come through Seattle for tours and they all generally say that at least for the high end pornstar provider niche, that Seattle is a bad city as they find it hard to get enough bookings to make it worth their time. Which I think having a good thriving high end BBFS niche is what we're missing here in Seattle as that creates a trickle down effect to more affordable BBFS providers. It provides enough of a foundational demand for BBFS while also keeping providers who can't fit the high end provider niche in check so their prices don't reach absurd levels. If you can creampie someone like Haley Reed for 2 grand, then some random 6/10 is going to have to keep their price low to get enough business.

Since Brenna Sparks is pretty much the only BBFS provider in Seattle I like, I've pretty much stopped seeing providers entirely. With how expensive it's becoming, with how shitty and small our selection is here, and because the economy is very likely to hit a major recession, this hobby just doesn't seem worth it anymore. At least not here.

[QUOTE=Eiji888;7552780]If you're willing to drive a few hours, Vancouver has a better selection of girls than Seattle does. On average prettier and slightly more attentive (not as good as LA though). Because escorting is also semi legal up there, most but not all girls are more willing to discuss menu beforehand which is nice as someone who really enjoys Greek. The exchange rate also makes it a little cheaper. The problem is though, BBFS is pretty much nonexistent up there in my experience. Just no where comes even remotely close to how good the BBFS scene is compared to Las Vegas and LA. Girls who are worth their salt are more likely to move to those cities because of the thriving scenes. [/QUOTE]Don't mind the extra drive to north, care to share more details on how to to find fun in Vancouver, is there a site where we can just point and order a take out? Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Bobby ShafToe;7552538]There is an entitlement attitude in Portland and Seattle among the sex worker community that has really warped the market. They are killing drmand and think that the solution to lost income is to raise prices for the customers that remain. The GPS board exemplifies this problem but was not the source. I don't know if it is feminism or what, but I have seen for at least 10 years a very concerted effort by strippers and 8-ish years by escorts to jack up rates relentlessly. All the while complaining that its slow in the clubs or on the boards. Covid certainly didn't help. Strippers charging crazy amounts for lap dances. Escorts charging crazy amounts to fuck. The diversification of SW into things like baristas making money making coffee in skimpy outfits (and online SW has given girls more options. But the problem started before those became much of a thing.[/QUOTE]
couldn't agree more, the damn golden pussy syndrome (GPS) is killing the street and the hobby, and another problem is too many whales in skipthegame, couldn't get jr up. this is y i explore the amp scene, but wanna smth different every once in a while.

[QUOTE=IstlFun;7552904]Don't mind the extra drive to north, care to share more details on how to to find fun in Vancouver, is there a site where we can just point and order a take out? Appreciate it.


couldn't agree more, the damn golden pussy syndrome (GPS) is killing the street and the hobby, and another problem is too many whales in skipthegame, couldn't get jr up. this is y i explore the amp scene, but wanna smth different every once in a while.[/QUOTE]Tryst and Leolist are the main two used up there. Leolist has its pictures for the girls ads blocked so you're going to need to use a VPN and choose a Canadian IP. Leolist does have scams / fakes so you'll need to do homework on girls first. Perb. Cc is a good review board for Vancouver, I recommend checking that out but I also recommend not telling people on that board that you're American as we aren't very welcome for very obvious reasons. Especially not for sex tourism as alot of them hate the idea of us coming there and increasing prices and ruining things. Vancouver has legal brothels as well that have girls for cheap, the looks and quality of the girls at the brothels varies wildly. The two I've tried out is cococollective and Asian fever but there's others that you can also find on perb.

[QUOTE=IstlFun;7552904]Don't mind the extra drive to north, care to share more details on how to to find fun in Vancouver, is there a site where we can just point and order a take out? Appreciate it.


couldn't agree more, the damn golden pussy syndrome (GPS) is killing the street and the hobby, and another problem is too many whales in skipthegame, couldn't get jr up. this is y i explore the amp scene, but wanna smth different every once in a while.[/QUOTE]Vancouver is really good for the asian scene. Plus with the rate exchange you can do pretty well. 375 after the rate exchange can get you two rounds of cip with a hot little thing. Non-asian bare isn't as prevalent.

Good sites to know about: PrivateParadise (handler is pretty good about sharing BBFS girls), xaio-dimsum, pussycatdolls, yumikolove.

For non-BBFS reviews check out perb. Hard to find BBFS reviews up here. The review boards are pretty strict about that.

[QUOTE=Eiji888;7552780]Since Brenna Sparks is pretty much the only BBFS provider in Seattle I like, I've pretty much stopped seeing providers entirely. With how expensive it's becoming, with how shitty and small our selection is here, and because the economy is very likely to hit a major recession, this hobby just doesn't seem worth it anymore. At least not here.[/QUOTE]One thing I wish was more common is providers just asking for recent test / vasectomy results and then offering BBFS accordingly. Ezpz, no fuss.

Instead, we see this constant stigmatization, analyzing menus, figuring out who allows it and who doesn't, etc., that likely results in people being more risky and / or testing less.

You do see some providers openly ask for results for VIP in their ads, but it's nowhere near the norm. I feel like the ones that do are gems because it just completely takes out the guessing game AND is responsible. I know some of us like the thrill of eventual access after being denied meeting someone initially, but sometimes you just get tired of the games too.

[QUOTE=WaldoJnk;7553108]

Good sites to know about: PrivateParadise (handler is pretty good about sharing BBFS girls), xaio-dimsum, pussycatdolls, yumikolove.
[/QUOTE]I've never tried those agencies. I'd be worried about catching something because my fear is it'd be like being the 6th man in line at a gangbang. Just seems extra dirty. Plus skimming through those sites, all the pictures used for their ads are obviously fake which makes me even more nervous about it being a total crapshoot on whether or not you're going to think the girl is even hot or not.

Spent a lot of time in Phoenix this winter and had 3 solid MILFs on rotation. All hot, 35-40 ish, BBFS, $300 or less for 30. Zero hassles.

Hit me up if you want some recommendations.

Dining out around here just plain sucks. Yeah there are some good exceptions. But considering the size of this market, it's pathetic. Too many of the customers with the most money have the least experience, discretion, taste, or any idea on how to evaluate and assign value to benefits. But what these guys have is the ability to casually throw a lot of money at the mediocre and not know enough to understand what they're not getting. So yeah, everything gets more expensive, the few good places are extremely overpriced, and the quality of the menus and service goes down across the board. People who even 10 years ago would never have been able to book a single diner are today booked up. There needs to be a cleansing fire of the local food providers and let the scene repopulate from grass roots.

[QUOTE=Eiji888;7553173]I've never tried those agencies. I'd be worried about catching something because my fear is it'd be like being the 6th man in line at a gangbang. Just seems extra dirty. Plus skimming through those sites, all the pictures used for their ads are obviously fake which makes me even more nervous about it being a total crapshoot on whether or not you're going to think the girl is even hot or not.[/QUOTE]All fair points. I can't compare to asian agencies in the USA As I have never partaken, but it is my understanding that all asian agencies use false pics. Maybe it's different. The girls are not widely known for BB so they are seen and reviewed in non-bb boards like perb.

As for being extra dirty. Perhaps, but how is that any different than a known provider of BB in any other location? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.

If you are participating in this topic, you are taking on some risk.

[QUOTE=WaldoJnk;7553221]All fair points. I can't compare to asian agencies in the USA As I have never partaken, but it is my understanding that all asian agencies use false pics. Maybe it's different. The girls are not widely known for BB so they are seen and reviewed in non-bb boards like perb.

As for being extra dirty. Perhaps, but how is that any different than a known provider of BB in any other location? Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;7552538]There is an entitlement attitude in Portland and Seattle among the sex worker community that has really warped the market. They are killing drmand and think that the solution to lost income is to raise prices for the customers that remain. The GPS board exemplifies this problem but was not the source. I don't know if it is feminism or what, but I have seen for at least 10 years a very concerted effort by strippers and 8-ish years by escorts to jack up rates relentlessly. All the while complaining that its slow in the clubs or on the boards. Covid certainly didn't help. Strippers charging crazy amounts for lap dances. Escorts charging crazy amounts to fuck. The diversification of SW into things like baristas making money making coffee in skimpy outfits (and online SW has given girls more options. But the problem started before those became much of a thing.[/QUOTE]There are a few that can command the higher rstes.

Most do not.

Back when I joined the other board in 2010, it was not difficult to find an $80 date with a GFE provider, that equates to about $120 today, adjusting for inflation. There were a lot of ads for a $150 HH rates which would be about $220 today. But that's not the case, most are at least $300 and up and the worst part is that menus are now more restricted over-all. Plus there is the trend for managers to not allow certain menu items and yet the providers actually do allow them. I find that very disturbing and weird, back when I first joined, managers were all about making money and menus were pretty open. I agree with what others have said here in that the main issue is there are enough 'men' that are willing to play the inflated rates even with the restricted menu. That makes things more difficult for their fellow hobbyists. It also seems that many providers base their rates on what others are charging, monkey see, monkey do.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7553850]Back when I joined the other board in 2010, it was not difficult to find an $80 date with a GFE provider, that equates to about $120 today, adjusting for inflation. There were a lot of ads for a $150 HH rates which would be about $220 today. But that's not the case, most are at least $300 and up and the worst part is that menus are now more restricted over-all. Plus there is the trend for managers to not allow certain menu items and yet the providers actually do allow them. I find that very disturbing and weird, back when I first joined, managers were all about making money and menus were pretty open. I agree with what others have said here in that the main issue is there are enough 'men' that are willing to play the inflated rates even with the restricted menu. That makes things more difficult for their fellow hobbyists. It also seems that many providers base their rates on what others are charging, monkey see, monkey do.[/QUOTE]I wasn't hobbling in 2010 so I don't know what it was like back then, but I can certainly attest to the fact that It is the P's who tell the girls no bare. It's the rules. They would literally 10 x there income overnight if they let the girl decide. I love it when these ****** want to lecture us on STD's like they are holier then thou! It's absolutely hysterical when a SW starts to try and lecture me about safe sex. These woman are so annoying. Everybody takes their own risks in life. Half these girls are on something and are in no position to lecture us on anything.

Posting here as she has been mentioned on this thread. Even if it is YMMV. I have time setup with her.

I noticed this review of hers on the other board: [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/flat-ginger-ale.3230051/[/URL]#post-15116857.

Can someone with experience / knowledge please let me know (either here or PM) if this review is accurate and what her restrictions are.

I have a limited budget to hobby and definitely do not want to waste my time if I do not get what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BigDumper;7554159]I wasn't hobbling in 2010 so I don't know what it was like back then, but I can certainly attest to the fact that It is the P's who tell the girls no bare. It's the rules. They would literally 10 x there income overnight if they let the girl decide. I love it when these ****** want to lecture us on STD's like they are holier then thou! It's absolutely hysterical when a SW starts to try and lecture me about safe sex. These woman are so annoying. Everybody takes their own risks in life. Half these girls are on something and are in no position to lecture us on anything.[/QUOTE]Well, I am not wanting to give away money to a "Safety Girl", and I don't want to go in not knowing their menu and plus many of them even if they do offer more, they likely will upsell you for it. The only way around it is to share information, so PM's welcome, especially for an AA Provider, not into the Big Uns though, LOL.

Getting the urge to go see Mikki but my last experience with her about a year ago was not so great.

Had some amazing times with her and that nostalgia makes me want to go see her again.

Has anyone seen her recently?

Has her service improved? Not expecting the Mikki ffrom 7 years ago but hoping it's better than last year.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;7554600]Posting here as she has been mentioned on this thread. Even if it is YMMV. I have time setup with her.

I noticed this review of hers on the other board: [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/flat-ginger-ale.3230051/[/URL]#post-15116857.

Can someone with experience / knowledge please let me know (either here or PM) if this review is accurate and what her restrictions are.

I have a limited budget to hobby and definitely do not want to waste my time if I do not get what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Never seen her but that review seems sus. "She had mouthwash but no cups. She offered me a small ground towel to dry off with. " That's really enough of an issue that he decided to write about that in his tiny review? I'd be a little inconvenienced by a small hand towel but its not going to affect my mood at all. I'm going to be getting sweaty in just a few minutes after getting out of the shower anyways. The cups thing? Why the fuck is that an issue, just waterfall or use the cap? Everything else he said could be valid, having a provider who is mentally checked out and is nothing more than a fleshlight sucks ass. But the the fact he's bitching about those little things honestly makes me more inclined to believe her than him.

[QUOTE=Eiji888;7556334]Never seen her but that review seems sus. "She had mouthwash but no cups. She offered me a small ground towel to dry off with. " That's really enough of an issue that he decided to write about that in his tiny review? I'd be a little inconvenienced by a small hand towel but its not going to affect my mood at all. I'm going to be getting sweaty in just a few minutes after getting out of the shower anyways. The cups thing? Why the fuck is that an issue, just waterfall or use the cap? Everything else he said could be valid, having a provider who is mentally checked out and is nothing more than a fleshlight sucks ass. But the the fact he's bitching about those little things honestly makes me more inclined to believe her than him.[/QUOTE]+1 on your assessment I feel the same way, but does not hurt to collect intel. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;7556403]+1 on your assessment I feel the same way, but does not hurt to collect intel. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]I saw Ginger Star about a year ago and was surprised to see her mentioned here. It was at a hotel, towels were stocked, and I didn't even register that there was not mouthwash (I typically haven't seen it with visitors in hotels).

The session was a decent GFE. She wasn't particularly enthusiastic, but BBBJ, DFK, and cfs. She regularly checked to make sure the cover was still on, which I always interpret as they don't do BBFS.

She's hot enough where I thought the rate was worth it.

Saw her in late January and had a great time. Her breath is always a bit stale. But, she's fun, price is right, and she does bare. Location is also great for us Eastside cats. She's put on a few pounds, but she's not fat. I personally like a thicker woman so, Asian ladies typically don't do much for me. Mikki is a good sweet spot in between. Not sure what your last experience with her was, but that's my take.

[QUOTE=Prancer1;7556305]Getting the urge to go see Mikki but my last experience with her about a year ago was not so great.

Had some amazing times with her and that nostalgia makes me want to go see her again.

Has anyone seen her recently?

Has her service improved? Not expecting the Mikki ffrom 7 years ago but hoping it's better than last year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OliverQueen;7557243]I saw Ginger Star about a year ago and was surprised to see her mentioned here. It was at a hotel, towels were stocked, and I didn't even register that there was not mouthwash (I typically haven't seen it with visitors in hotels).

The session was a decent GFE. She wasn't particularly enthusiastic, but BBBJ, DFK, and cfs. She regularly checked to make sure the cover was still on, which I always interpret as they don't do BBFS.

She's hot enough where I thought the rate was worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=OliverQueen;7557243]I saw Ginger Star about a year ago and was surprised to see her mentioned here. It was at a hotel, towels were stocked, and I didn't even register that there was not mouthwash (I typically haven't seen it with visitors in hotels).

The session was a decent GFE. She wasn't particularly enthusiastic, but BBBJ, DFK, and cfs. She regularly checked to make sure the cover was still on, which I always interpret as they don't do BBFS.

She's hot enough where I thought the rate was worth it.[/QUOTE]Your experience matches mine maybe 9 months ago. Very good looking woman, great body, pics are definitely her although no provider will look quite as put together as they do in her professional photoshoot pix.

Appointment was mid afternoon if memory serves. The towel for my shower was a (clean) bathmat which indicated to me she'd already had a busy day.

Your "decent GFE" pretty much sums it up. Didn't rush me but definitely got down to business promptly. As soon as the deed was done she reached down to make sure the cover wouldn't slip off. I have no problem with that but agree it makes BFS seems unlikely; I was surprised to read in this forum it might be on the menu. Perhaps with sufficient monetary encouragement?

I haven't seen her again and don't plan to: nice enough lady but I prefer a little more engagement.

[QUOTE=Beezy777;7557361]Saw her in late January and had a great time. Her breath is always a bit stale. But, she's fun, price is right, and she does bare. Location is also great for us Eastside cats. She's put on a few pounds, but she's not fat. I personally like a thicker woman so, Asian ladies typically don't do much for me. Mikki is a good sweet spot in between. Not sure what your last experience with her was, but that's my take.[/QUOTE]Looking for some strange and I like thick asians. What's set up like? Any upcharge?

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7557607]Looking for some strange and I like thick asians. What's set up like? Any upcharge?[/QUOTE]No up charge.

I like it natural so I say no to the cover and she loves it natural.

Amazing mms.

Clean setup when I have been there in the past.

Everything except DFK, LFK and Greek are available.

There was a time pre 2020 I used to see her weekly.

[QUOTE=Prancer1;7556305]Getting the urge to go see Mikki but my last experience with her about a year ago was not so great.

Had some amazing times with her and that nostalgia makes me want to go see her again.

Has anyone seen her recently?

Has her service improved? Not expecting the Mikki ffrom 7 years ago but hoping it's better than last year.[/QUOTE]LOL I know what you mean pre covid she was my favorite, would beg and do anything to get that second shot, but ever since she put the weight on she doesn't like riding and is visibly out of breath from the first round. Could almost say she's a pillow princess now which is boring. I also haven't seen her in 2 ish years now though.

Plenty of these are well known slam dunks but figured I'd put out a list to contribute. Usually prefer sugar babies for cheap overnights but have some pros as well under the belt, typically stray away from curvier girls. All listed were creampies.

Remi Lane.

Lunzluvzu.

Marie St Clair.

Becky Ride.

Lucy Luccid.

Kalico Kitty (upcharges heavy now instead of free).

Sunnyskies (retired).

Brittanysummers (retired).

Babygirlmazie.

Babygirlcat.

Kimxxx (retired? Anyone know?

Naughty Halie (Portland).

Mika Moon (worst experience ever, refuse to call her a pornstar when she was slinging for 200 in Bellevue).

Insatiable Anna.

Pornstars / High End.

Kate Join.

Brenna Sparks.

Victoria Liu.

Nicole Doshi.

Tiffany Pink.

Luna Baby.

Elena Koshka.

Aubree valentine.

Elena Koshka.

[QUOTE=SBwombfiller;7557810]Plenty of these are well known slam dunks but figured I'd put out a list to contribute. Usually prefer sugar babies for cheap overnights but have some pros as well under the belt, typically stray away from curvier girls. All listed were creampies.

Remi Lane.

Lunzluvzu.

Marie St Clair.

Becky Ride.

Lucy Luccid.

Kalico Kitty (upcharges heavy now instead of free).

Sunnyskies (retired).

Brittanysummers (retired).

Babygirlmazie.

Babygirlcat.

Kimxxx (retired? Anyone know?

Naughty Halie (Portland).

Mika Moon (worst experience ever, refuse to call her a pornstar when she was slinging for 200 in Bellevue).

Insatiable Anna.

Pornstars / High End.

Kate Join.

Brenna Sparks.

Victoria Liu.

Nicole Doshi.

Tiffany Pink.

Luna Baby.

Elena Koshka.

Aubree valentine.

Elena Koshka.[/QUOTE]I've seen several of these girls and they didn't seem open to it. How are you getting them to go bare? Teach us!

Also where and how are you meeting high end girls and porn stars. I need some of that!

In my experience, which is admittedly less than most as although I prefer BB, I won't pay extra for it, like many do, but most times that I have in the hobby has been after either the 2nd or after multiple visits to the same provider. I feel like they are more comfortable with you and see you are a potential regular client, which obviously is a smart business model to pursue. One longtime TNA provider, famous for her sit down BBBJ's-CIM, now retired offered it to me on the 2nd FS visit. At one AMP I read that my regular offered it and when I asked, no problem or upsell, she is also MIA. Another long term regular who I assumed was safety, also retired, and didn't do BBBJ offered it to me for a 40 up charge. I declined but engaged in BB with her going forward with no up charge. That's the long answer. Short answer is YMMV. All that being said I would urge members here to be truthful in order to preserve the validity of this board. But I mean, I will believe a hobbyist here over a provider that is attempting to be on both sides of the fence in order to not lose their "Safety Customers".

[QUOTE=Snooby;7558290]I've seen several of these girls and they didn't seem open to it. How are you getting them to go bare? Teach us!

Also where and how are you meeting high end girls and porn stars. I need some of that![/QUOTE]Almost all of the high end porn stars have reviews on TER. Go there do a search for your fav (keep location as USA rather than any city or state). If you are a member you can not only read reviews (I. E. Which ones allow BBFS) but also the link to their escort booking agency or their personal escort website. Elena Koshka is just one example who allows BBFS (at least she used to. YMMV as always). At least that is how I have found them in the past. When I lived in Chicago I saw more than a few. As they traveled there often. Some pornstars live in Vegas or travel there often so that is another city where finding them is extremely easy. India Summer is another that is easy to find and she is also BBFS friendly. Others were eye openers e. G. Lauren Phillips was someone I used to be interested in but after reading 2-3 reviews there all with the same theme. I saved 1.5 K of my money. Hope that helps. SBwombfiller if you use a different method. Please share.

[QUOTE=Snooby;7558290]I've seen several of these girls and they didn't seem open to it. How are you getting them to go bare? Teach us!

Also where and how are you meeting high end girls and porn stars. I need some of that![/QUOTE]All of them are simple asks. Couple of them essentially demand it raw LOL and have probably been used by everyone on this board. I would not consider this list to be any rarities or surprise at all for most anybody. Just don't be an asshole when asking or texting and have a recent clean test, naughty Hallie was the only spur of the moment bareback after telling her I wanted to cum inside of her. And back when I saw Kalico when she first started she was cool with raw if you just asked in person and she could "inspect" your package, but I stopped seeing her when she wanted a upcharge. And last I texted cat she is now demanding condoms, but I'm guessing her regulars still get it.

For pornstars tryst agency or porn companions are the main bookers / website for them. Couple I've met through seeking like Luna baby who is in Vegas. If you can reach out direct it's always better so the agency doesn't get a cut. And almost all pornstars I've met offer a pornstar experience and will go bare with a recent test and upcharge. If you have any specific questions feel free to pm me. It's not for everyone tho considering the price tag, but it can be a fun bucket list and for me I usually see them if I have a ongoing arrangement and don't want to risk any health issues from other providers that may not demand testing.

Can you confirm Luna is a creampie, slamdunk? She went bare with me, but no creampie. Granted, this was when she first arrived on the scene.

[QUOTE=SBwombfiller;7557810]Plenty of these are well known slam dunks but figured I'd put out a list to contribute. Usually prefer sugar babies for cheap overnights but have some pros as well under the belt, typically stray away from curvier girls. All listed were creampies.

Remi Lane.

Lunzluvzu.

Marie St Clair.

Becky Ride.

Lucy Luccid.

Kalico Kitty (upcharges heavy now instead of free).

Sunnyskies (retired).

Brittanysummers (retired).

Babygirlmazie.

Babygirlcat.

Kimxxx (retired? Anyone know?

Naughty Halie (Portland).

Mika Moon (worst experience ever, refuse to call her a pornstar when she was slinging for 200 in Bellevue).

Insatiable Anna.

Pornstars / High End.

Kate Join.

Brenna Sparks.

Victoria Liu.

Nicole Doshi.

Tiffany Pink.

Luna Baby.

Elena Koshka.

Aubree valentine.

Elena Koshka.[/QUOTE]