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Girls usually avoid the following cities for the following reasons:
LA. Rough / drunk / druggy customers, BBFS is the norm, too many girls in general so competition is fierce.
SF bay area. Too many Indians, BBFS is the norm.
NY. Rude New yorker culture in general.
Girls like OC / SD and tier 2 cities like Dallas and Boston and Atlanta because customers are usually older dudes who are more chill.
[QUOTE=Blip;7430966]Can someone DM me the link. I checked Candygirl, ROKM, Aria but can't find her ad.[/QUOTE][URL]https://cakdolls.com/escort/mali-options-avail-avail-11-1-new-to-area/[/URL]
There you all go. Now you all can go see her. I'll wait a few weeks for the hype to go down.
[QUOTE=BobLove;7430815]Girls usually avoid the following cities for the following reasons:
LA. Rough / drunk / druggy customers, BBFS is the norm, too many girls in general so competition is fierce.
SF bay area. Too many Indians, BBFS is the norm.
NY. Rude New yorker culture in general.
Girls like OC / SD and tier 2 cities like Dallas and Boston and Atlanta because customers are usually older dudes who are more chill.[/QUOTE]I've also heard from girls who tour LA that the customers come through smelling like bud.
I always wondered is the sex better when you're high?
[QUOTE=Stonkz;7430988]I'll wait a few weeks for the hype to go down.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's better to wait for things to slow down. The OC pattern is to rush to see a new girl first week.
For those visiting from LA, you need to know that several OC agencies and bookers are much stricter about behavior. Think of it like SSG. So it is easier to get warnings and bans in OC, and they also keep track of borderline behavior issues. If you are nice to girls, it helps you book more HYA.
[QUOTE=Download X;7401753]The most well-known being [B]Baby Arin[/B], [B]Ina[/B], and Lady Ari..Baby Arin is finally back in LA now. Ina will also return. So a lot of [B]Nali[/B] fans are praying for the third part of the prophecy to come true..[/QUOTE]
The prophecy is now 3 for 3. For a few seasons, Dragons roam the land again.
[QUOTE=Download X;7427584]In the golden age of kgirls, many kgirls had high looks, high service, cheap rates. But the last three birds have flown away now. One guy asked me if so-and-so is likely to work at her old shop again. I replied, "When a bird flies out of its cage, it never flies back in."[/QUOTE]
Also:
[QUOTE=Stonkz;7430891]Looks like the world is telling me you have to drive to OC now. But time is money. I hope one day we can make LA great again. Hopefully we get some good news soon because theres no way I can drive to OC regularly lmao.[/QUOTE]
I'm not recommending people drive to OC, but I'll offer intel to people who are going anyways. Best you confidently go where you need. This reduces stress, mistakes, and things that bother neighbors. Everybody in OC is enjoying their own life same as you and me, no one cares when you get along. Parking in OC is way better, and units are nicer. No homeless.
[QUOTE=Download X;7339809]Sometimes, at the high-rises in OC you have to drive to the roof for guest parking. Tons of places in the area are like this. Many also have a circular keypad that is hard to find, and you have to pull over to the right lane to access it. It's just a black circle without numbers, but if you put your hand up to it it lights up numbers. Each number you press lights up a dot, if all numbers are right it works. Otherwise you can retry. If you can't remember 7 digits, what you do is remember 3 or 4 at a time.[/QUOTE]
Mornings have more reliable traffic, just try to be 10-20 minutes early. Late night isn't bad, but you must pre-book or else some girls close early if they aren't expecting someone already. Weekends are better traffic, but if you visit Sunday you must book ahead since that is an especially common day for girls to take off.
Sometimes people follow a car in when it's busy, I've seen even 4 cars pass through normally but it's a stretch. Some high-rises actually have multiple lounges at certain or all floors. Just make sure you are on a completely different floor or building block to increase safety. If reception is terribly bad, look for a window or stairwell.
But if you arrive extra early, I would instead hang out at the mall, gas station, etc.. Having a "way station" 3-10 minutes away is golden, you can get work done and catch up on things. A few people prefer to enjoy a mall and walk over on foot.
At some high-rise locations you text and they open the gate. One is straightforward, but for another the GPS might lead you to the wrong gate. So you need to drive further and find the gate next to leasing. Sometimes, you are reminded to confirm you are entering the right garage. What you do is look up and see the building number to make sure it matches the garage. Note that when leaving one place, the car gate opens only if you inch up super close.
The greatest danger of all is a car accident. Do not use your phone while driving, just play music or an audiobook. Some people have gotten tickets for driving while distracted. If you haven't used toll roads before, you can ask GPS to skip them. It is allowed to make a hands free phone call. So call your dentist, repairman, and other things you can settle over the phone while keeping your eyes on the road.
[QUOTE=Download X;7110240][B]Getting Lost[/B]
Read signs, including the metal signs showing numbers. Some places have [B]the devil's keypad[/B]. This is still the easiest test you'll ever pass to access a girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7431091]The prophecy is now 3 for 3. For a few seasons, Dragons roam the land again.[/QUOTE]It was inevitable. And as Thanos would say, "All roads lead to me". With a snap of a finger, there are no more all in HYA girls. And now we begin a new era of uncharging. So hold on to your wallets guys. I'll see you on the other side.
[QUOTE=Randy62;7431133]..then after I leave Ktown I appreciate the quirky OC locations.[/QUOTE]
After trying ktown, I never had a word of complaint about OC access anymore. Sometimes you can try Waymo / Uber for the last leg of ktown to avoid parking.
There are plenty of great girls in LA, so there is no need for most people to go OC. It is only for the thirstiest guys. A few LA guys go OC and a few OC guys go LA in order to expand their harem. They all have the same reasons - they want a wide variety of girls or have a very specific taste like HYA.
I've already reviewed some LA options here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7428495&viewfull=1#post7428495[/URL] [B]10/27 LA[/B]
Most HYA Hunters like [B]Minji[/B]. She is petite and good looking with good skills for HYA. [B]Milan[/B] is a good HYA for thick lovers. [B]Yiseo aka Louis XIII[/B] and [B]Aoi J[/B] have photo model guides in the above link. [B]Allie aka Mina[/B] is ATF level for me with both looks and service. I also listed [B]Lily.K aka Remi[/B] on the roster, people generally like her tits as her strong point. Both Allie and Lily are bb special which increases their value for the dollar. What is value? I have an exact formula here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7423340#post7423340[/URL] Value Rating
10 point is the average kgirl value. Jenny K (B-A looks-service) scores 23 due to her pricing. MH Cherry (S-S) is 27, held back only by bb upcharge. If there were a HYA service queen who was A-S and priced at 300 hh bb, that would be 30 points which is realistically the upper limit now. Guys repeat these girls because you get 2x to 3x the fun per dollar.
Girls with both high looks and high service keep things competitive. Girls with high looks and low service can easily improve, but girls with lower looks can't change that and must rely on service. Girls with C through E looks have 5 options: 1) lower rates, 2) tour, 3) offer bb special, 4) have dedicated regulars, or 5) offer something special like be a service queen. [B]Pepsi[/B] does several of these at the same time, she is a cheap high service kgirl with happy regulars. Other girls will need to follow suit one way or another.
[B]Ria J aka Yaya[/B] is another good jgirl option. I see [B]Asuka J[/B] from OC will start LA on 11/2. She is a different girl than BB Asuka - remember that names get re-used. I like jgirls and consider Asuka J a backup option since she is youngish natural looks and white skin, about B-Tier if you like natural. Review and info here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7429709&viewfull=1#post7429709[/URL] Asuka J and Yaya aka Ria J
It feels like 75% of jgirls are 20-30 yrs, compared to kgirls which are maybe 20% (but rising lately). Young girls tend to have lower vibe and service, but people will name the exceptions. Young doesn't mean you'll find them attractive, although for some guys it helps so we have to know what we like. Even though I know [B]Nakamura[/B] (now NYC) is just over 20, many guys consistently describe her as 18-20 which is how she looks:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7429755&viewfull=1#post7429755[/URL] Nakamura aka RS8 Kaiya
There is also Purple J whose last day is today. Reviews are mixed, it comes down to face and teeth since it is GND. If you want a young skinny body, she has it. Very nice girl but civvie rather than sexy vibe. If I've already seen other girls I'd repeat her as backup. Her English is enough for basic conversation.
[B]Purple J[/B] - Young, very skinny, good English. Small tits, GND face, cute rather than sexy. Typical jgirl service from a young girl, less experienced but very cooperative. Her strong points were her skinny body, friendly and easy going attitude, very supportive of video. FWB civvie vibe.
About Nakamura, her pussy is super tight same as [B]Aoi J[/B]. I even wrote out the Lizza guide for NYC so they won't break Nakamura's pussy - it's always one specific guy rather than how many guys. So make a girl comfortable, eat her pussy if she likes, start slow. Nakamura looks good even with no make up, I hear she now has twintails. For those who have not witnessed jgirl twintails:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=787588&d=1761784547[/URL] Braided twintails (29)
[B]From HYA to pre-MILF[/B]
This twintail model is 29 years old, I'll call her HYA even if some other guy won't. It is the upper limit of HYA. They say Asians don't raisin, but there is a pre-MILF stage. To illustrate, here is the same girl around 30 and 32:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=787587&d=1761784547[/URL] 30
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=787589&d=1761784547[/URL] 32
Somewhere between 30 and 32 it happened. Every girl starts pre-MILFing at a different age, most commonly around 27-33. "Full pre-MILF" is maybe 34-39. For 30-33, I'll call it either way. It is just an opinion, and if enough people give an opinion it results in a bell curve. There is no need to agree with anyone at all, just get a variety of opinions.
She was Viet Jenny before. I am sorry but photos are 100% fake. She was indeed young CYA with not an ounce of fat and small A / B titties. I wasn't gatekeeping her tho. I liked her but wasn't quite sure if Kpop fan would like her or not. She has a more Thai / Southeast Asian non-white skin look. I had seen GND girls like her in real life that she looked kinda familiar to me, whereas the Kpop girls would be rarer and more exotic to me. I could think of at least 5 girls I would prefer in LA, not including my ATF. Then again, most people may not like my type of girls anyway.
[QUOTE=Undftd88;7425002]LA is no bueno right now boys. There are no true HYA besides angel.
If willing to make the drive to OC, go see get9 Naomi and thank me later. 100% real photos except she doesn't wear as much makeup IRL. 20-22 true college CYA / HYA (depend on your preference). Tight kitty and not an ounce of fat on her and game for fucking besides BB. Only downside is the small b size titties but I'd take her all day over what's available in LA.[/QUOTE]
Baby Solvi.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-solvi[/URL]
Baby Monica.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-monica[/URL]
Let me know if you guys recognize these girls. After I see my atf tomorrow I'm going to suit up and investigate lmao.
O Great Boner, do you have any insight you can lend an acolyte as to LA HYAs who bbfscip without upcharge? There was a time a few years back you recommended Nali in this category and she was great, but back then I was all about seeing new / different girls and didn't see her enough to be in her select clique now.
Several years ago I seem to remember some young K-girls who did it without upcharge. I remember a North Korean Jane who was so new she wouldn't shower with you and allowed it, but think she went crazy. Also a young Sarah / Itzel who allowed it but don't know what's up with her now.
I think the only bookers I'm still in with are CGLA and M, both of who only offer MILFs for bb w / o upcharge, not HYAs, as far as I know.
Are those days over so the booker's know they can upcharge for the HYAs, and consistently do so??
What is her fee in OC?
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7431327]OC is just like Greater LA to me so it don't matter haha. It feels more peaceful in OC than LA too. I don't know about us getting sloppy seconds cause girls I hyped up long before are still touring around. Even OC is still hyping up some girls I mentioned before with other names, and wondered why there was pretty much cricket for some girls before they got hyped up these past few months.[/QUOTE]Man I envy you guys who live in between OC and LA. For all of us that live at the upper edge of LA and everyone else in the valley, that drive to OC is at least 1. 5 hrs. So in total it would be a 4 hr drive for me back and forth. Sheeesh. Even if I do a multi hour appointment, that would eat up half my day. Definitely not worth the ROI because time is money. So I guess it's time for me to move on and find my next ATF. Hopefully Nali / Mali tours again in LA. Until then, I'm going to start hunting. This baby Yul is looking like my number 1 priority right now. DLX is right, patience is key. There is no time for no nut November, because now it's time to suit up.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-yul[/URL]
[QUOTE=Stonkz;7431936]Man I envy you guys who live in between OC and LA. For all of us that live at the upper edge of LA and everyone else in the valley, that drive to OC is at least 1. 5 hrs. So in total it would be a 4 hr drive for me back and forth. Sheeesh. Even if I do a multi hour appointment, that would eat up half my day. Definitely not worth the ROI because time is money. So I guess it's time for me to move on and find my next ATF. Hopefully Nali / Mali tours again in LA. Until then, I'm going to start hunting. This baby Yul is looking like my number 1 priority right now. DLX is right, patience is key. There is no time for no nut November, because now it's time to suit up.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-yul[/URL][/QUOTE]
Yes, a 90min drive is really a stretch. If you must, try to get the earliest appointment or go weekend - book well ahead.
Just to give an idea of my experience, I'd equate a B-Tier girl 0 minutes away with an A-Tier girl 60 minutes away and S-Tier girl 120 minutes away. There are modifiers like our connection or if she is a unicorn. If we just close our eyes and wait a few weeks, an S-Tier or A-Tier girl does show up. That's what patience earns us.
[B]Hidden Tips[/B]
If you do go OC, you can make a trip out of it by having lunch at the Mitsuwa next to South Coast Plaza. It was buried in last month's prophecy digest:
[QUOTE=Download X;7401228]..but it doesn't matter, nobody likes to drive to OC where parking is not that bad, apartments are new and clean, and the Mitsuwa food court next to South Coast Plaza is teeming with HYA at rush hour. Gyutan Tsukasa and the boba place serving Donchan are both a premium combo. Cheaper than msog tip. Make sure to sit with space to your sides so HYA might join you[/QUOTE]
I compared notes with others and more often than not, we get 1 S-Tier HYA and multiple A-Tier HYAs. And thanks to korgs I now know exactly what it's like to bang them, too. Very nice warm up before an appointment or to finish your day. Please try it some time.
In the same post above are many important tips including how to birth more Dragons. And just for fun, there is also a second part of the prophecy which is still holding strong. Starting tomorrow, the three birds will simultaneously work in 3 different cities.
About [B]Baby Yul[/B], I don't know about her. But speaking generally I have had good experience with "semi-premium" 400-500 hr girls this year compared to last year. However I also have to warn that such girls usually have a specific appeal. They were all special in one or two ways, and there was an exclusivity factor too (they were low mileage). One girl was young and top tier pussy - I found her hot but it was clearly up to taste since some did not. Others were clearly HYA but the service was up to taste. Or GFE only. Another girl was brand new to fs (she knows hj and bbbj well) which appeals to me but is actually a big turn off to others. I guess I got lucky, or you could say I am not that picky if the girl is young and good looking. It's why I say it is for "rich guys", because otherwise if the girl is not your type it is more disappointing.
For you though, faced with the alternative of a 90 minute drive, it makes sense. I will say when people cooperate and review HYA candidates, you save so much money "taking turns" on toftt. Versus everyone silently trying girls without reporting back. This is what it means to be a HYA Hunter. MILF Hunters have it easy.
I have complicated feelings about premium girls. For example:
[QUOTE=Download X;7426841]Whenever I paid for a semi-premium or premium priced girl her condition was very good..So I kind of like it when people complain about the higher priced girls, because those complaints actually help me. Others have reported this same freshness difference, it's uncanny. Oh well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Download X;7423384]One person remarked on post-nut clarity, admitting the girls were at least young and very hot. He just wondered why he paid so much. I told him you could pay 500-800 to be dropped off at the top of Mount Everest and you'll go "That's it?"
The idea of reaching the top of the mountain used to seem completely impossible after all.[/QUOTE]
You could say, such a service is for rich people. Others are at risk of disappointment.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7431960]
For you though, faced with the alternative of a 90 minute drive, it makes sense. I will say when people cooperate and review HYA candidates, you save so much money "taking turns" on toftt. Versus everyone silently trying girls without reporting back. This is what it means to be a HYA Hunter. MILF Hunters have it easy.
I have complicated feelings about premium girls. For example:
You could say, such a service is for rich people. Others are at risk of disappointment.[/QUOTE]I hear ya. I wish I could do that commute. But unfortunately, I cannot be that far from the office. So no matter hot the girl is, it ain't happening for me lmao. And as long as the girl is in a location with good parking, preferably MW or that K town spot that starts with an H and has 2 hr meter parking, I will tofft them. Other locations I'm going to need a little intel to get me to drive there LOL. So I'm hoping she's in a good location. LA has been awfully quiet, so it looks like I will be flying solo. Many of my friends are feeling the inflation so they don't tofft anymore. I'm the last man standing.
Saw her yesterday. Haven't seen her in almost a year but damn she's looking really good. Lost a lot of weight in all the right places and kept them where she should also.
Service is still average but she's great if you're a looks-first kind of guy.
Any current crop HYA with nice naturals? Saw Jgirl Aoi but she wasn't my style and service was typical Jgirl. Missed B Joo this go around but thinking similar to her.
Any of the Thai girls at Sweetcandies HYA and natural?
Open to suggestions!