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December's Rotation
Going to have to give myself some early Christmas presents. Thinking of Salina and maybe Luna from PD, Linda from Perfect Archer, Susan and maybe Sasa from Orange, and of course FuckIt216's reviews of the Latinas at HKPD always have me at least curious about them. The holidays are expensive. Went back real deep and read some good stuff about Salina so I think I will try her first today. I also want to point out that Susan at Orange was at the Jap app some time back in July. I think? I only recently got into the Jap app but on the website I was able to look at some of the past girls and two of them caught my eye. One was Susan and the other was JAV pornstar named Mako Oda. Susan has come to orange so I am confident there is at least a girl who resembles her there. I will be eagerly checking the website every rotation waiting for another JAV star hahaha. I know it was said Luna is AI generated. Probably. But the website claims she is from Singapore so that would give me a chance at a Malaysian girl but I will wait to hear about her from one of you. Today Salina or maybe Linda. Will review later tonight.
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In it for the money
[QUOTE=Masalic;6700164]To those who have been in this for a long time, in your experience how many providers have you interacted with that gave the vibe that they wanted to be there? Be it because of the money or they just like to fuck?[/QUOTE]Regardless of what outside people think, there is virtually no human trafficking in this, at least at the places reviewed here. The ladies want to pay for their enhancement surgery or transport and living and don't want to work in a sweat shop. They want to get out at some point, but the money generally keeps them in. When you find a lady who gives the vibe that she doesn't want to be there, her repeat clients would dry up, so for the money, they suck it up and smile.
I have imagined some are in it for the sex, but I am sure that, except for some doms and maybe some submissives, that just isn't so. If the lady is pleased with my performance, I let it go to my imagination that "she loves that" but it is more likely it is just in comparison to the dirty or drunk or asshole mongers that she is relieved by my treatment of her. I do give some ladies real orgasmic pleasure but they could find that without this lifestyle.
Don't think too much about that and let the fantasy of mutual pleasure sweep you away in the moment.
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[QUOTE=IllinoisGuy7;6700753]Regardless of what outside people think, there is virtually no human trafficking in this, at least at the places reviewed here. The ladies want to pay for their enhancement surgery or transport and living and don't want to work in a sweat shop. They want to get out at some point, but the money generally keeps them in. When you find a lady who gives the vibe that she doesn't want to be there, her repeat clients would dry up, so for the money, they suck it up and smile.
I have imagined some are in it for the sex, but I am sure that, except for some doms and maybe some submissives, that just isn't so. If the lady is pleased with my performance, I let it go to my imagination that "she loves that" but it is more likely it is just in comparison to the dirty or drunk or asshole mongers that she is relieved by my treatment of her. I do give some ladies real orgasmic pleasure but they could find that without this lifestyle.
Don't think too much about that and let the fantasy of mutual pleasure sweep you away in the moment.[/QUOTE]So some might genuinely find it fun, many are usually in it for the money, but they can appreciate you putting in some genuine effort. Yeah that makes sense. Well as long as its ultimately their choice.
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Money Or Being With You.
The girls in this line of work become desensitized and detached from the sexual acts we pay them to do. The money is the only thing that keeps these girls in this business. If one thinks that she enjoys being with you is definitely a delusional fantasy. It's just all an act and part of why we pay these girls for sex. Don't think there's more to her acting that she likes being with you after your time with her is over. She likes being with you for your money.
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[QUOTE=FuckIt216;6700162]Had a great session with Linda this afternoon at Archer Perfect Spa and went back this evening to see Emma but you Mongers must have read my review in the Massage forum and she was busy so I texted The Earth Chi and HKPD and whoever responded first got the rest of my wallet tonight. HKPD responded instantly and I decided to leave my car in front of Archer Perfect Spa and take a 1/4 of a mile stroll down to HKPD -.
Was greeted by Poppa 2 on them in shift tonight playing cards. I love the long haired one he looks like he would stab you in the eye if he had to but awesome guy love whenever there is a wait we shoot the shit but when I got there he told me awesome lineup walked me up stairs and was greeted first by a smoking hot Columbian named Lexxy and in the other room a sultry Chinese Girl Named Alice. Both girls are 8. 5/10 but I picked Lexxy and she was one of the best performances I've had in years. Keep in mind I'm an old guy and was glad my Mints were working full strength today. We literally fucked like 20 years olds for at least 35 minutes straight. Capped off in bag and stood there for 5 minutes cause I felt like I was stroking out but for Christ sakes get to HKPD and check her out. I'll be going back tomorrow to visit Alice and will send a post about her performance tomorrow. But kudos to HKPD the last 2 rotations have been legit.[/QUOTE]The latinas have been very nice lately with a high ratio of 'hits' vs misses at HKPD. But the Asians when they have them have been pretty mid usually.
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[QUOTE=SmileySam;6700445]Probably 100% for the $$ It is a job to them. They probably have few skills. Restaurant work and doing nails are other options that pay much much less and require long hours. The only enjoyable sex is with a boyfriend. Sex with customers is all acting.[/QUOTE]Definitely for the money but sometimes you get good sex when you start feeling a connection with the girl. I've definitely made girls cum before. Generally, they would not put lube on and would be extremely active in the sex.
However, if you're going to any busy locations, they're definitely going to get tired unless you're one of the earliest customers.
Moreover, unless you're paying them extra for special service, do not expect amazing sex from $160. After the owner's cut of 40%, housing fee, food fee, and booker fee, these girls make maybe half per customer. If you're doing $160 hour, the only thing they'd want is for you to finish quick so they can move to the next customer.
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[QUOTE=IllinoisGuy7;6700753]Regardless of what outside people think, there is virtually no human trafficking in this, at least at the places reviewed here. The ladies want to pay for their enhancement surgery or transport and living and don't want to work in a sweat shop. They want to get out at some point, but the money generally keeps them in. When you find a lady who gives the vibe that she doesn't want to be there, her repeat clients would dry up, so for the money, they suck it up and smile.
I have imagined some are in it for the sex, but I am sure that, except for some doms and maybe some submissives, that just isn't so. If the lady is pleased with my performance, I let it go to my imagination that "she loves that" but it is more likely it is just in comparison to the dirty or drunk or asshole mongers that she is relieved by my treatment of her. I do give some ladies real orgasmic pleasure but they could find that without this lifestyle.
Don't think too much about that and let the fantasy of mutual pleasure sweep you away in the moment.[/QUOTE]Most Chinese ladies are 'trafficked here,' if you consider them paying their snake heads to smuggle them to latin America and then join the Latinos to cross the border as trafficking. They work to repay the debt of getting over and then more to make a living and / or save up to return to China.
Currently, Chinese boarder crossers ranked number 4 or 5th I think. However, unlike the Latins, it's extremely expensive for them to get here. If you're a woman, you can either do this and repay debt, high interest private debt, in a couple good months or work in a restaurant for 2 years. Mind you, because of Chinese new migrants reporting Chinese restaurant owners for not following federal pay law by making them work long shifts below min wage to get green cards. Now, Chinese owners are afraid to hire new migrants. Besides, for many of them, it's much cheaper to hire Latino workers.
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[QUOTE=JamesWords;6701019]Definitely for the money but sometimes you get good sex when you start feeling a connection with the girl. I've definitely made girls cum before. Generally, they would not put lube on and would be extremely active in the sex.
However, if you're going to any busy locations, they're definitely going to get tired unless you're one of the earliest customers.
Moreover, unless you're paying them extra for special service, do not expect amazing sex from $160. After the owner's cut of 40%, housing fee, food fee, and booker fee, these girls make maybe half per customer. If you're doing $160 hour, the only thing they'd want is for you to finish quick so they can move to the next customer.[/QUOTE]Honestly that's kind of what I figured. 160 minus the 40% cut that's not even 100 dollars. Like if you're not willing to pay at least 300 bucks why are you even bothering to go? You're just being a cheapstake and if I was in their position that just would not be attractive to me.
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Red Lantern
When will Red Lantern change the rotation on their website? About 3 days behind.
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[QUOTE=Masalic;6701098]Honestly that's kind of what I figured. 160 minus the 40% cut that's not even 100 dollars. Like if you're not willing to pay at least 300 bucks why are you even bothering to go? You're just being a cheapstake and if I was in their position that just would not be attractive to me.[/QUOTE]I mean, it really depends too. I've paid $300 and $260 multiple times with crap service. This was especially true a couple years before when dongguan service and VIP service wasn't explicitly offered.
I've paid $160 and received services that are definitely worth more than $160. I met a half Japanese MILF at RL some 4 years ago and save gave me a BBBJ, DFK, etc without me asking. It was one of the best service I've had. I tipped her after.
It might depend on if the girl find you attractive, a connection and whatnot.
That's why now I don't go for $300 unless they're reviewed or very attractive. At least that way, you know you're getting your money's worth.
In the burbs, I tend to stick to $160. In the city, I've been pretty much $300 only.
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PD Luna MIA?
[QUOTE=Lover312;6700432]Called ahead to see the new Singapore girl, Luna, in room 3 was told she's there and available. Show up and wait on the couch for a full 30 minutes which pissed me off as the Booker said they weren't busy and to come over now. Cigarette smoke so thick it was hard to breath. Anyways, finally taken upstairs and I was showed into room 2. I said no, I wanted room three and he said "girl never showed up" opened the door and showed me an empty room strike 2. I saw the girl in room 2 and she was a very tiny little spinner, maybe 5 ft with heels on and maybe 90 lbs soaking wet. Just my type so I said WTF. Gave her. 3 for VIP service. She gets naked and she has very small A cups and the biggest Bush I've ever seen. Bruises all over her, I'm assuming from prior rough play. We go to shower and I am told to shower alone. Shower covered in mold. Back to room and lame ass massage for 5 min. Silly cat bath. Dongguan consisted of squirting lube on my asshole, putting a condom on her tongue and wiggling it around for 30 seconds. Absolutely no kissing of any sort allowed. No DATY. Only positions she was willing to do were variations of mish. Absolutely no doggie and lame attempt at CG which ended after about 5 seconds with complaints of "pain". Overall one of the worst apartment experiences ever. Total ripoff. The place has become even worse than RL, and that's saying something. I'd avoid until they get their shit back together like the way it used to be.[/QUOTE]So, no one knows if Luna actually exists? No point asking Booker, right? Every gal is always available.
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[QUOTE=Masalic;6700797]So some might genuinely find it fun, many are usually in it for the money, but they can appreciate you putting in some genuine effort. Yeah that makes sense. Well as long as its ultimately their choice.[/QUOTE]99% is for the money, but I was with an Asian American girl who told me she is nypmho and realized she can make money doing what she loves. We went 3 rounds in 1 hr, although I was happy after the 1st round but she made it work. Then I drove her to another hotel for some more. Another girl that I have seen twice asked me just before our appointment to drive her to run some errands. We spent few hours out and few hours in the hotel for 3 rounds BBFSCIP and she offered more but I had to go. But these are outliners, the 99% are what Illinoisguy says, they are glad you're not drunk, gross, rude, creepy, etc and view us as "easy customers".
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Yumi
Had a visit with Yumi at Kedzie and would definitely recommend spending some time with her. Around 5' and maybe 105 pounds with a very proportionate body. I did the VIP and all I have to say is she almost got 2 pops out of me which hasn't happened in a very long time, and the overall visit was outstanding. I'm not sure if I'll be able to see her again on this rotation, but I hope she's back again soon if not.
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[QUOTE=StanKost;6702357]99% is for the money, but I was with an Asian American girl who told me she is nypmho and realized she can make money doing what she loves. We went 3 rounds in 1 hr, although I was happy after the 1st round but she made it work. Then I drove her to another hotel for some more. Another girl that I have seen twice asked me just before our appointment to drive her to run some errands. We spent few hours out and few hours in the hotel for 3 rounds BBFSCIP and she offered more but I had to go. But these are outliners, the 99% are what Illinoisguy says, they are glad you're not drunk, gross, rude, creepy, etc and view us as "easy customers".[/QUOTE]Thats the dream, someone who loves fucking because its fun.
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[QUOTE=IllinoisGuy7;6699435]I am glad this isn't a competition, and I am glad I am not the winner if it were one. I am into the thousands of dollars this year also, having repeated many KP Ladies and took trips to Vegas once this year and Reno once this year.
I say I am going to get down to twice a month for this hobby, and I really mean it. It just hasn't happened the other times I promised myself.[/QUOTE]After reading these I had to check my withdrawals from the bank and it's up there holy crap, this doesn't include charges on card for massages just like being touched. Most I spent was 800 for Colombian duo and a lady on the strip, Nothing like getting your dick sucked while looking out on the strip. Also have to start slowing down as I drop alot cash at KP. I use to have a Latina fetish but for the past couple of years I've had Asian fever I can't shake.