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[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5040356]I agree that wearing jeans sucks. The fabric is too heavy for the dancers to touch your dick through the cloth. Unfortunately, I'm a 100% jeans kinda dude.
Also. You get dances with your dick on? On the dance floor, not in the VIP? Surprised you didn't get thrown out for that.[/QUOTE]The couch area at Follies was a pretty forgiving environment. There was definitely fucking and dick sucking going on there.
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A bit ballsy, I would only start with it out with dancers I have seen before. But I got to tell you, right when GR reopened it had been a long time since I had a release, I had a new dancer and by the 4th song or so, it was unzipped and she knew it. By the 6th, I had it out and she did not care. On the 7th dance, she started rubbing her Pu$$y on it and I could not move her away fast enough to get my microfiber cloth over it and blew a load on her ass. She seemed mad but laughing at me at the same time for blowing so quickly. I tipped an extra $20 and she was cool.
I take my own cloths to clean up as best I can. That is not the only time I have had such luck, never inside their twat or mouth on the floor, that is in VIP.
My technique is that I am there often enough that several girls recognize me and come up right away, if I don't know them I do not really want them coming up immediately. But the ones I know, they know what I do for a living and some will come and talk about what they have learned or seek advice. These I always will let them give me a couple of dances plus a modest tip since none of them will really do any grinding or stick shifting. Once they head off for more $$ from someone else, the ones I do not know are more willing to come and sit and and do dances. But like others have said, by dance 2 there had better been some serious grinding and stick shifting or we are done.
[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;5039041]15 year lurker here who felt compelled to offer my advice for those struggling in these times with no Follies.
Now that Follies is gone, I felt compelled to post this for those looking for that fix!
I will start this off by saying, you never had to go to follies for action. Now mind you, I went to follies weekly so I'm not better than anyone, however, I got my dick wet every time I went but never paid the house fee!
This is my anecdotal guide to getting extras at any strip club (with one caveat, I don't do white strip clubs, just not attracted to white women)!
Rule 1. Respect their humanity and hustle- I've rarely ever got into an altercation with a dancer. I respect them trying to get paid therefore I don't treat them as my next victim or vessel for a nut. Regardless if I'm attracted to a lady or not, I still get at least one dance from every lady that ask me for a dance. When a lady who I'm not attracted to approaches me for a dance, I say, "I generally prefer xxxxx but your vibe is good (even if it isn't)" and get at least one dance. What this does say is it challenges the dancer, she's going to do more to entertain you in order to get more dances so the dances are better than her normal. The biggest thing this does is remove you from the cheap patron section. If a girl asks another girl about me, she'll say, "he don't like bitches like me but he gave a dance or two. " This goes a long way.
Rule 2. The Bartender- Take about 30 minutes before you get a dance and chop it up with the bartender. Get a couple drinks and tip her well. When the dancers approach you at the bar, they always look to the bartender for validation of your tipping skills. If you have two or three drinks and tip the bartender $30, she'll let the dancers know you're not cheap.
Rule 3. Pants- I strongly suggest never wearing jeans to the strip club. Wear track pants or a heavier pyjama pants (I prefer the latter because pyjama pants have a dick hole and you'll need to be easily accessible if you want extras on the floor.
Rule 4. I'm Nasty- When a dancer approach me for a dance, I simply say, "Maybe, but I'm a little nasty. " They'll say, "how nasty?" I'll say, "I need my dances with my dick out!" At this point, they'll denounce you completely and won't come back. If they hesitate, they're down! At most, they'll ask you to put a rubber on (the best option). Tell them you'll get 10 dances if she'll let you put a rubber on and rub her pussy hole on on the tip of your dick. During the first 10 dances, she'll let half the tip get in. After the first 10 dances, tell her her you'll get 10 more dances, if she'll let you get a "half a stroke" during the dances. In a normal setting, she'll ask you to go to the VIP but in my scenario, she's already been putting the tip in, so she will say yes to keep getting them dances coming. During the next 10 dances, that half stroke will turn into full strokes, now you're fucking on the dance floor.
Conclusion: This won't work for every dancer but if you're patient, there's always at least one dancer that will be down. I generally come up on a girl who's down within interactions with the first 5 dancers that approach me.
At the $5 dance spots (blaze, strokers, pinups) you down $150 ($100 for the girl, 30 for the bartender, and 4 just because you asked me dances).
At the $10 clubs, you're down $270 but you're, in most instances, fucking a better quality diva.
Do what you will with this info and let me know if my strategy worked for you![/QUOTE]
Pulling your dick out with a girl you don't know well is a horrible idea. Saying it upfront to a girl the first time you meet them is an equally bad idea in general. The kicker is that in a place like follies and platinum where the girls know you might want to get sticky it's a more forgiving approach. Be warned that in many strip clubs in America this is a bad strategy, the first step is to know your environment. Second step is to know your stripper. Talk to them first and grab them all over like a pig. Ass tits hips rub your dick on them get a feel for them. If they respond positively then do a dance with them and if they give a good grind tell them you need to pull it out and feel their ass if they say no say you will tip. Then tip whatever you feel comfortable. You can definitely get away with this at platinum with girls when it's slow. Because perception varies wildly from person to person sixinchpimp may have a way about him that prevents him from getting into trouble. The average monger should not try that at home LOL.
There are gold nuggets out there. This post appears to be one. Here is a post that has info and criteria about what works and what doesn't for them and under what conditions. This is the example of the kinda things that I love to read. You clearly have some experience. I salute you pimp.
[QUOTE=SixInchPimp;5039041]15 year lurker here who felt compelled to offer my advice for those struggling in these times with no Follies.
Now that Follies is gone, I felt compelled to post this for those looking for that fix!
I will start this off by saying, you never had to go to follies for action. Now mind you, I went to follies weekly so I'm not better than anyone, however, I got my dick wet every time I went but never paid the house fee!
This is my anecdotal guide to getting extras at any strip club (with one caveat, I don't do white strip clubs, just not attracted to white women)!
Rule 1. Respect their humanity and hustle- I've rarely ever got into an altercation with a dancer. I respect them trying to get paid therefore I don't treat them as my next victim or vessel for a nut. Regardless if I'm attracted to a lady or not, I still get at least one dance from every lady that ask me for a dance. When a lady who I'm not attracted to approaches me for a dance, I say, "I generally prefer xxxxx but your vibe is good (even if it isn't)" and get at least one dance. What this does say is it challenges the dancer, she's going to do more to entertain you in order to get more dances so the dances are better than her normal. The biggest thing this does is remove you from the cheap patron section. If a girl asks another girl about me, she'll say, "he don't like bitches like me but he gave a dance or two. " This goes a long way.
Rule 2. The Bartender- Take about 30 minutes before you get a dance and chop it up with the bartender. Get a couple drinks and tip her well. When the dancers approach you at the bar, they always look to the bartender for validation of your tipping skills. If you have two or three drinks and tip the bartender $30, she'll let the dancers know you're not cheap.
Rule 3. Pants- I strongly suggest never wearing jeans to the strip club. Wear track pants or a heavier pyjama pants (I prefer the latter because pyjama pants have a dick hole and you'll need to be easily accessible if you want extras on the floor.
Rule 4. I'm Nasty- When a dancer approach me for a dance, I simply say, "Maybe, but I'm a little nasty. " They'll say, "how nasty?" I'll say, "I need my dances with my dick out!" At this point, they'll denounce you completely and won't come back. If they hesitate, they're down! At most, they'll ask you to put a rubber on (the best option). Tell them you'll get 10 dances if she'll let you put a rubber on and rub her pussy hole on on the tip of your dick. During the first 10 dances, she'll let half the tip get in. After the first 10 dances, tell her her you'll get 10 more dances, if she'll let you get a "half a stroke" during the dances. In a normal setting, she'll ask you to go to the VIP but in my scenario, she's already been putting the tip in, so she will say yes to keep getting them dances coming. During the next 10 dances, that half stroke will turn into full strokes, now you're fucking on the dance floor.
Conclusion: This won't work for every dancer but if you're patient, there's always at least one dancer that will be down. I generally come up on a girl who's down within interactions with the first 5 dancers that approach me.
At the $5 dance spots (blaze, strokers, pinups) you down $150 ($100 for the girl, 30 for the bartender, and 4 just because you asked me dances).
At the $10 clubs, you're down $270 but you're, in most instances, fucking a better quality diva.
Do what you will with this info and let me know if my strategy worked for you![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5041036]The couch area at Follies was a pretty forgiving environment. There was definitely fucking and dick sucking going on there.
O.[/QUOTE]I mostly stuck to the high tops, but once in a great while a girl would take me to the couches. We stood waiting for a spot to open on the back wall. The girl started discreetly pointing from one couch girl to another going "Yes, No, No, Yes. " I asked what she meant. She said those were the girls with dicks inside them. I could see saving the $50 VIP fee although it would not be a comfortable experience for me. Too out in the open for my tastes. Sure enough, one of the "Yes" girls reached down with some bar napkins as she got up off a guy and you could tell he was zipping up. My girl said "Told ya".
So apparently my tips were "too much. " I don't remember exactly what was typed word for word. But let me attempt to clean it up for the powers at be.
I usually leave things hanging at pinups, that's where I have the most experience.
If dancer solicits you for dance, that gives you a chance to dictate what you want. Remember SHE APPROACHED YOU. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
That means that she needs something MORE than the others who aren't on the floor hustling. This is a good chance to say: "I like to have it out. " Make sure to say it in a light-hearted way. They may act dumb, but you can always clarify it. All they can do is say NO or OKAY. I have never been declined at pinups from one who approached me first.
Second method is to Leave it out in advanced. They will feel things when they sit down, this is their chance to say they don't like that. If so, they are pushed off my lap after 1 dance.
Most will play dumb and grind against it, while some will let you know they're game for a little extra.
One dancer who goes by "Stone" purposely spreads the cheeks wide so the corn dog can be planted perfectly.
When she lets go of each cheek. "WHOMP," they clap together tightly and snuggle the jimmy until release.
I keep a towel there with me to clean up, like some other mongers I have noticed hanging out in dark corners of the room during day shift.
Hopefully this is good enough. Bare with me, my man!!
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;5040356]I agree that wearing jeans sucks. The fabric is too heavy for the dancers to touch your dick through the cloth. Unfortunately, I'm a 100% jeans kinda dude.
Also. You get dances with your dick on? On the dance floor, not in the VIP? Surprised you didn't get thrown out for that.[/QUOTE]It was a game changer when I started wearing track pants to the clubs instead of jeans or khaki pants. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable wearing pajama pants. But I wear the track pants loose enough that they can slip down a bit if they need to.
Is the Clermont Lounge open in bottom of hotel still.
Lot of fun, never know what's going to happen.
[QUOTE=GoldMonger;5042014]I mostly stuck to the high tops, but once in a great while a girl would take me to the couches. We stood waiting for a spot to open on the back wall. The girl started discreetly pointing from one couch girl to another going "Yes, No, No, Yes. " I asked what she meant. She said those were the girls with dicks inside them. I could see saving the $50 VIP fee although it would not be a comfortable experience for me. Too out in the open for my tastes. Sure enough, one of the "Yes" girls reached down with some bar napkins as she got up off a guy and you could tell he was zipping up. My girl said "Told ya".[/QUOTE]Fun times here. I used to drink at follies just so I could watch the action going on. RIP!!
[QUOTE=CarolinaBoy33;5044345]Is the Clermont Lounge open in bottom of hotel still.
Lot of fun, never know what's going to happen.[/QUOTE]I believe they permanently closed that place some months ago but don't hold me too it.
I still haven't gone to a club since follies. Are any of the remaining clubs decent fun during the day shift? I loved parking across the street at that Mexican mall and wandering in for a few high contact dances, finding someone to VIP and then easily going about my day. Has covid ruined dances?
[QUOTE=Wavarry;5045411]I still haven't gone to a club since follies. Are any of the remaining clubs decent fun during the day shift? I loved parking across the street at that Mexican mall and wandering in for a few high contact dances, finding someone to VIP and then easily going about my day. Has covid ruined dances?[/QUOTE]I know this hot Russian spinner (pic below), mid 20's, who, in an earlier time, would have made a great Follies dancer (or wherever). She's a cam girl now, on Chaturbate. I checked in with her the other day (she's back in Russia now), and she was doing a show; at one point, about 7000 viewers were logged in. In 2-3 hours, she made about $700 and called it a day.
Now, looking at her, obviously she has the mechanical prerequisites to make it as a stripper, and she has a pretty sparkling personality as well. Smart, funny, willing. Easily could be a top girl at any club, but why bother when she can make pretty good money just working from home? No tip out, no dealing with other strippers, no worn out pussy from ten VIP sessions, no hassling to drink (she doesn't smoke or drink).
Where have the blazing hot girls one used to see offering escort services or stripping? Camming, I believe.
Not my cup of tea at all, but then, I was never a porn fan, either. I never was much of a spectator, but MANY ARE (witness the popularity of TV football).
The strip clubs will have more and more tired and worn out, older girls every year, as your high school hotties go straight into camming (or whatever camming might evolve into). COVID, with its incentives to WFH, just accelerates an inevitable shift.
O.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5045686]I know this hot Russian spinner (pic below), mid 20's, who, in an earlier time, would have made a great Follies dancer (or wherever). She's a cam girl now, on Chaturbate. I checked in with her the other day (she's back in Russia now), and she was doing a show; at one point, about 7000 viewers were logged in. In 2-3 hours, she made about $700 and called it a day.
Now, looking at her, obviously she has the mechanical prerequisites to make it as a stripper, and she has a pretty sparkling personality as well. Smart, funny, willing. Easily could be a top girl at any club, but why bother when she can make pretty good money just working from home? No tip out, no dealing with other strippers, no worn out pussy from ten VIP sessions, no hassling to drink (she doesn't smoke or drink).
Where have the blazing hot girls one used to see offering escort services or stripping? Camming, I believe.
Not my cup of tea at all, but then, I was never a porn fan, either. I never was much of a spectator, but MANY ARE (witness the popularity of TV football).
The strip clubs will have more and more tired and worn out, older girls every year, as your high school hotties go straight into camming (or whatever camming might evolve into). COVID, with its incentives to WFH, just accelerates an inevitable shift.
O.[/QUOTE]Sadly (I used strip clubs not just to chill but for all other activities, I. E. Takeout), I think this hits it on the head. We may just have to realize we all were able to enjoy a unique time, before it largely washed away.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;5045686]I know this hot Russian spinner (pic below), mid 20's, who, in an earlier time, would have made a great Follies dancer (or wherever). She's a cam girl now, on Chaturbate. I checked in with her the other day (she's back in Russia now), and she was doing a show; at one point, about 7000 viewers were logged in. In 2-3 hours, she made about $700 and called it a day.
Now, looking at her, obviously she has the mechanical prerequisites to make it as a stripper, and she has a pretty sparkling personality as well. Smart, funny, willing. Easily could be a top girl at any club, but why bother when she can make pretty good money just working from home? No tip out, no dealing with other strippers, no worn out pussy from ten VIP sessions, no hassling to drink (she doesn't smoke or drink).
Where have the blazing hot girls one used to see offering escort services or stripping? Camming, I believe.
Not my cup of tea at all, but then, I was never a porn fan, either. I never was much of a spectator, but MANY ARE (witness the popularity of TV football).
The strip clubs will have more and more tired and worn out, older girls every year, as your high school hotties go straight into camming (or whatever camming might evolve into). COVID, with its incentives to WFH, just accelerates an inevitable shift.
O.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid you're right but hope you're wrong. Hopefully in a few months when the COVID vaccine becomes widely available and mongers become less afraid to go out, the cam market will drop like a rock. There will always be the top gorgeous girls who will do fine, but a lot of your average girl-next-door types will hopefully need to shore up falling viewership income with in person visits. I know I have 0 interest in paying cam girls, especially not as long as there is a ton of free video already out there. One of the reasons I quit going to clubs when I discovered mongering. For a few dollars more I could do a lot more than just look (I didn't really know how to succeed at OTC back when I semi-frequented clubs). That's what I'm counting on anyways, a market adjustment once people's COVID risks decrease.