Massage Parlor Reports

Yes as one of the previous members posted the girls at sn are not even happy with $140 or $150. They are demanding more. Yes some might have NYC quality looks but if they aren't giving NYC style service what good is it to pay they extra? In that case I'd rather go to NY and enjoy myself. After my last session I haven't gone back to SN and I use to be a frequent visitor there. These girls are getting GPS and $140-$150 doesn't cut it for them, but at the same time all they are giving is a standard rushed service just rushing you out and waiting to take the next guys cash. I used to have great times there but most of the good ones left and now sn is going downhill. I know another 3 guys you use to visit frequently as well that stopped going. I don't want to offend no one, and money is not an issue for me but not sure why guys just throw crazy money at these girls for standard service? Then this causes the girls to expect that every time. If the rate is $120-$140 for tip why give $200 off the bat for no reason with no extra service provided? I had a buddy go to sn once and after I asked how it was he said it was good. He then turns around and tells me he fucked up and forgot what I had mentioned the tips were, confused and thought he was at another RMP local to him and tipped $200. He said the girl was VERY pleased. Stuff like that is what fucks the market up. Its like going and paying $5 for a gallon of gas when the actually price is $3, SMH. Well that's my take on this whole situation. In short, if you want quality girls, quality service, for reasonable rate just go to NYC. Good luck & stay safe!

Long time member; first time reviewer. Visited SN for the first time in 2022 after reading the posts and MMS said none of the recommendations were available (Sophia: NA, Cindy: NA, Julianna: NA, Yoko: booked). She said she will take care of me when I arrive, which honestly was a red flag, but I was in the area.

MMS took the usual. 80 house fee, and brought in Jessica. Now I thought I hit the jackpot when this Korean / Caucasian mix walked in in a tight, flowery overall skirt with her natural C's bursting out. Plus she was polite and greeted me with a bow.

Pros:

- Jessica is attractive and likes to flirt throughout.

- TS was nice: lots of ass play and early hand job.

- Kissing, rim, BBBJ of the shaft.

Cons:

- You who are inflating the price made $. 20, before the standard, now room for negotiation. Turns out now SN girls are expecting much more and $. 20 doesn't even give you FS? Jessica wanted to just give me a hand job / boob job to completion.

- Zero massage. Jessica only does soft touch and her hefty body weight sitting on my back was hard to bare.

- She also said I was too big as an excuse for not getting the condom. Trust me, my Asian cock is probably half the size of what you guys are working with.

- After much heated debate, she finally allowed me to enter, which I can only describe as placing the smallest eggplant inside a parachute. Boys, she is loose AF. Then she kept pushing me away and I ended up just calling it quits and left pissed off.

Told MMS on the way out that this girl is a disaster. She nodded in solidarity.

[QUOTE=Giants77;5825482]Yes as one of the previous members posted the girls at sn are not even happy with $140 or $150. They are demanding more. Yes some might have NYC quality looks but if they aren't giving NYC style service what good is it to pay they extra? In that case I'd rather go to NY and enjoy myself. After my last session I haven't gone back to SN and I use to be a frequent visitor there. These girls are getting GPS and $140-$150 doesn't cut it for them, but at the same time all they are giving is a standard rushed service just rushing you out and waiting to take the next guys cash. I used to have great times there but most of the good ones left and now sn is going downhill. I know another 3 guys you use to visit frequently as well that stopped going. I don't want to offend no one, and money is not an issue for me but not sure why guys just throw crazy money at these girls for standard service? Then this causes the girls to expect that every time. If the rate is $120-$140 for tip why give $200 off the bat for no reason with no extra service provided? I had a buddy go to sn once and after I asked how it was he said it was good. He then turns around and tells me he fucked up and forgot what I had mentioned the tips were, confused and thought he was at another RMP local to him and tipped $200. He said the girl was VERY pleased. Stuff like that is what fucks the market up. Its like going and paying $5 for a gallon of gas when the actually price is $3, SMH. Well that's my take on this whole situation. In short, if you want quality girls, quality service, for reasonable rate just go to NYC. Good luck & stay safe![/QUOTE]If I'm tipping. 2, I'm getting BBFS porn star style service. I tip better then most but not dumb enough to give away the stack. Also, Manhattan has certainly not been what it was before Covid. The best way to get great service is to create a bond with 1 girl in the spa and have fun until she leaves. Maybe you get her digits and follow her. And don't be a slimy creep.

Candy is officially "on vacation", whatever the hell that ever means. I highly suggest you check out Emily. A real A+ spinner. Lily is at the top of their game right now, plus I am pretty sure they train for a damn good massage.

Anything beyond a 140 tip is a shakedown. If they changed the experience or brought in model like goddesses, I would pay the extra vig.

[QUOTE=RKFan58;5831431]Anything beyond a 140 tip is a shakedown. If they changed the experience or brought in model like goddesses, I would pay the extra vig.[/QUOTE]Remember when it was 100 total. We came in the front door to the room with couches. Got cfs and took it off to give her a facial. They done jumped the shark. Better than the old Genesis. Man, I'm gettin fukin old.

[QUOTE=TJ985;5831933]Remember when it was 100 total. We came in the front door to the room with couches. Got cfs and took it off to give her a facial. They done jumped the shark. Better than the old Genesis. Man, I'm gettin fukin old.[/QUOTE]You got to account for inflation my man.

[QUOTE=TJ985;5831933]Remember when it was 100 total. We came in the front door to the room with couches. Got cfs and took it off to give her a facial. They done jumped the shark. Better than the old Genesis. Man, I'm gettin fukin old.[/QUOTE]If you remember spas being 100 all in you are old! I remember Genesis only visited once or twice, hard to remember since its been closed for 20 years. It reminded me of a Nevada bunny ranch. Bouncer at the door then a selection of ladies. I remember some fuglies there though. My favorite was American in BPT. Great diverse selection and the lady in charge was friendly as can be. There were some hot latinas and a black girls there. I don't remember a bad time ever there. It's been gone for some time. I must be getting old too.

I got about once a month give or take. I've had Yoko, Lisa, Cindy, Janet, Ivy and can't recall the rest. Not one of them asked for more than the $120 I left them in advance. I may have thrown an extra 20 afterwards some of the times but they didn't know it was coming so it couldn't have affected service IMO. Best I can guess is if you go at prime busy times (most of the room doors are closed) they may want more? Also I have had a few of them tell me some come in filthy and with bad breath and that is not a good way to meet someone.

I've stated this in the past, if you arrive somewhat clean and the provider still wants more than $120 up front you are not going to enjoy her service not matter the tip. I have asked for a different provider once or twice because of this. Pay the house to mamasan, leave tip on table right away the girl will count it immediately once she comes in the room. If she balks it gives you the opportunity to change providers before any of her time is invested.

I actually stopped going to Lily because of this issue. Hope this helps as it has worked for me.

Lastly on a completely different note I have taken to bringing my own soap for the TS. Even in prison you get your own soap not covered in someone else's pubes.

[QUOTE=Dickcheney;5840887]I got about once a month give or take. I've had Yoko, Lisa, Cindy, Janet, Ivy and can't recall the rest. Not one of them asked for more than the $120 I left them in advance. I may have thrown an extra 20 afterwards some of the times but they didn't know it was coming so it couldn't have affected service IMO. Best I can guess is if you go at prime busy times (most of the room doors are closed) they may want more? Also I have had a few of them tell me some come in filthy and with bad breath and that is not a good way to meet someone.

I've stated this in the past, if you arrive somewhat clean and the provider still wants more than $120 up front you are not going to enjoy her service not matter the tip. I have asked for a different provider once or twice because of this. Pay the house to mamasan, leave tip on table right away the girl will count it immediately once she comes in the room. If she balks it gives you the opportunity to change providers before any of her time is invested.

I actually stopped going to Lily because of this issue. Hope this helps as it has worked for me.

Lastly on a completely different note I have taken to bringing my own soap for the TS. Even in prison you get your own soap not covered in someone else's pubes.[/QUOTE]Well put. Very much same experience roughly a monthly visit never was asked for more than the customary 1. 2 (allways mid day mid week) Thanks for the soap tip, will do.

[QUOTE=Dickcheney;5840832]If you remember spas being 100 all in you are old! I remember Genesis only visited once or twice, hard to remember since its been closed for 20 years. It reminded me of a Nevada bunny ranch. Bouncer at the door then a selection of ladies. I remember some fuglies there though. My favorite was American in BPT. Great diverse selection and the lady in charge was friendly as can be. There were some hot latinas and a black girls there. I don't remember a bad time ever there. It's been gone for some time. I must be getting old too.[/QUOTE]As you, I remember the old days. It was harder to hookup. No internet, no cell texting. You needed more of your senses to stay out of trouble. Today has its own challenges. So, yes all is equal in potential pitfalls. I will share any info that keeps any monger from getting jammed up. I will also share info if it helps a monger enjoy the potential encounter better. Stay safe all. Keep them semi honest.

[QUOTE=NikTobarada;5776392]Short Version ("Just the facts, Nik" I had a wonderful time with Candy (she said her name was), at Lily's, the other day. Wonderful titties (large C's? Great body (toned and muscular). Pretty face (when I saw it, because mask off during BJ, but mask back on during sexy time). Although it looks like she had some work done; it was more ovular than I think a human face should be. But who cares about ovals. She's very pretty. Also, she's Korean. I asked.

Long Version ("I've got my coffee. Ready, Nik. Go. " I'm normally a Hudson Valley poster, but I lurk here, as I'm sure you guys do over there. I've tried SN before. Had Jessica, at SN. And that was a great time, worthy of a report I agree. But can we all just agree on this?: if you've had Jessica at SN, it was a great time. Moving on. Since I've never tried Lily's, and a window opened up where I could devote the time and logistics of getting over to Danbury, I made an appointment.

Before I begin, let me preface that some of my details and musings are for your enjoyment and knowledge. Some details may be regarded by most of you as irrelevant, but a few of you might say "that was valuable". So I include it. My musings, however, are largely irrelevant.

The presentation and layout is very similar to SN, at Lily's. The only other local place that I know where you are guaranteed FS is Heaven in Fishkill. There is no MMS at Heaven. At Lily's (like SN): MMS greets, leads you in, gets you settled, takes house fee.

2 minutes later, Candy walks in. Slinky dress, young (ish), flirty right off the bat. She leads me to shower, light banter back and forth, great shower, she's highly complimentary about my physical attributes (as I'm sure she is to all of us / you). Brief (less than 2 minutes) stint in sauna, back to room, mildly sub-par massage for 15 to 20 minutes, but I let her do her thing because she issued a command here and there (RE: see musing in a later paragraph), and she's obviously following a session syllabus.

After she hot towels off the lotion, she starts doing that fingernail light tickle-why stuff that gets you (one) hard, from underneath. She don't ask me to flip. I flip of my own accord because I'm ready. She laughs.

"What you want?" She asks.

(I slightly tug at her dress shoulder strap).

"Does this come off?" I say.

"Of course!" She replies.

"Then lets get this off, and we'll see what happens."

Here's the one part of this, or any session, I hate. She stands up, begins to slinkily remove her dress, then stops, and gives the Universal Single Hand Gesture for 'give me money'. I always take good care of them. As I'm sure most of us do.

"Tip comes after. " I say.

"No, must before. " She demands.

"I will take good care of you. I will give you good tip, I promise."

(She's shaking her head) "I must take tip, now."

(I realize this is a deal-breaker for many of you guys. Insofar as to whether you return. I've found that 60 to 70% of these girls will relent after the aforementioned promise, continue with the session, and trust you to do the right thing. Candy was in the 30 to 40%.

(Sighing, pointing to table across room) "Go to my phone. There's something underneath for you. " I instruct.

"You want your phone?" (She grabs my phone).

"No. Underneath. There's an envelope for you."

She sees the envelope, finally. Gasps (these girls must do prerequisite time in theatre groups). "Oh, for me? So nice. Very pretty. Very respectful."

(yeah, yeah, I'm thinking). I motion for her to look inside.

"OOOH. Very generous!

"We good now?" I ask.

"You stay here. I be right back. Freshen up for you."

So now I'm thinking: there's X in the envelope. If an amount was there that was less than X, would you still go freshen up? Is this why it's important for some of these girls to get their X first? X determines, I guess, how fresh they go get? To put your mind at ease, Dear Reader: X is probably $30 to $40 higher than standard. I like to walk in with the maximum, in the envelope, that I'd be willing to pay. X represents a mind-blowing FS session. The phrase 'mind-blowing' being key. I don't make a habit of over-tipping. But if it's my first time at a place, I've found that a little bit higher sets the tone for later visits. After the session, when she goes to get either a hot towel and / or water, I will take money OUT of the envelope (if warranted) to represent a less-than-mind-blowing session. This procedure doesn't work, obviously, if she demands the tip up front (and you capitulate). And I'll finalize by admitting: this operational paradigm might not be ideal for YOU, but it works for me.

Candy comes back in roughly 3 minutes. She's got one of those cute little plastic trough things with a handle. Those things that girls in college will buy, to cart all their shower items to the communal bathroom down the hall. You know these troughs I speak of? Anyway, in the carryall are all the items you'd expect: lotions, paper towels, condoms.

I have already risen to seated position, and am ready to pull her close for some lovin'. She says "You lay back and relax. " I counter: "You have a plan?

"Yes, I have plan. " Some ladies let you lead the dance. This one has her own dance moves, I guess. I don't care either way. I'm easy.

She removes her dress, and takes her time to do it in a sexy way. I'm jumping ahead now, but the quality and tone of her muscles (especially legs and buttocks) is amazing. But do not misinterpret that to mean she is overly-muscular. There's no way this woman can keep this fit by just working at an AMP. Did I mention she dimmed the lights really low, and also that my eyesight this last year / year and half has been getting a bit worse (near field, not far field). This is important, because I begin to receive the best BJ I've gotten in about a decade and a half. And it is only when she puts the condom on, just before we begin 'the serious stuff', that I realize why it felt so good. I had just received a BBBJ.

5 to 10 minutes of that. Then she pulls me up, off the table. She lays down on table and orders me to fuck her. I ask if I can DATY for a few minutes. She tells me she would like that. So I do, using all the skills in my bag of tricks. Which, hey, may not be as huge a bag of tricks as some of you guys have. But it includes all the basics. She appears to really enjoy this, but as I said earlier: they might need an Oscar category for some of these women. Onto missionary, really good. Flip to doggy, super really good. Why? Her ass. Perfection. I *almost* finished. The condom does impede, and Candy. I won't say she had a loose pussy. Let's just say it wasn't tight. I finally gave up (my attempt to finish while in doggy), but made it appear as a desire. Stripped the condom off and she finished me while we were in 69.

Side Note: Candy's cooter / taint / ass area was invariably fresh, clean, and sweet-smelling. I was at a place, here in the Hudson Valley, once. 69 ing with a provider. And I detected faint whiffs of poopie. Those are moments that test a man's fortitude. I guess that's another review.

Sorry for the unnecessarily long review. Probably should have led with that. The only weird thing of the session, overall, was: she kept asking me, every 5 minutes or so, if I was all right. Now, I'm a middle-aged guy. But I keep in pretty good shape with MMA training and weights. And I certainly at no time felt like I was losing steam. When I got home, I looked in the mirror and asked myself: "Do I not look all right?" It made me wonder: an earlier review of Lily's mentioned some guy had a heart attack at this venue, within the last few years. It made me additionally wonder: because of that incident, are all the girls here instructed to ask their middle-aged clients "Are you okay?" every few minutes. But this last thought of mine = just conjecture.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Nik, thanks for writing such an awesome review! I'm an STG / Escort kind of guy, but have thought of sampling AMPs in the Danbury area lately. Your review was so descriptive and helpful! Felt like I was experiencing the session also! LOL. My only wish is that I could figure out how much you tipped Candy that day? Was it 1. 5? 2. 0? Enlighten me please, I don't want to disrupt the ecosystem with a naïve, overly friendly tip!

Again, many thanks. Your post is a great primer.

Jarred.

[QUOTE=Jarred;5847733]Jarred's query, below.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Candy is no longer there (for now), however. She left the day after my last session with her, which was several weeks ago. I gave her a parting gift (NOT a euphemism); she gave me her phone number. First time for that. Wondering, now, what do with that. I text her, very infrequently, with tiny little flirtations, nothing more, and usually only when I'm drunk. She always texts back, also with little flirtations, and tells me she's "having vacation", and she will text me when / if she comes back to Lily's. Should I full court press? Probably not. I'll scare her off. Answered your other question via PM. Although it was discernible via context. With the exodus of Candy, MetaDavid [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7184-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5829972&viewfull=1#post5829972]OFFERED ANOTHER[/URL] suggestion, based on his recon.

Field report on "June" - claims she's new (two weeks in from Queen's / K Town). She said she's sticking around for another month or so (who knows). Overall 7/10. Would repeat if timing works out, likely not book ahead. She's about 5 foot tall, 100 lbs, fake Cs, spinner type and maybe early / mid 30's.

From what I have seen and experienced. She probably gave the best massage ever in SN. Full 30-40 minute massage using her hands, elbow and feet (standing). Usual house fee (. 8). For tip, I had offer 1. 2 but she wanted 1. 4 (I obliged) as she claims inflationary measures! Cow girl, mish, the usual. The only thing I didn't really like was the over application of lube, felt like a slip and slide for a bit.

I opted out of the TS / sauna today (was already clean), and finished on the hour.

[QUOTE=NikTobarada;5848067]Thank you. Candy is no longer there (for now), however. She left the day after my last session with her, which was several weeks ago. I gave her a parting gift (NOT a euphemism); she gave me her phone number. First time for that. Wondering, now, what do with that. I text her, very infrequently, with tiny little flirtations, nothing more, and usually only when I'm drunk. She always texts back, also with little flirtations, and tells me she's "having vacation", and she will text me when / if she comes back to Lily's. Should I full court press? Probably not. I'll scare her off. Answered your other question via PM. Although it was discernible via context. With the exodus of Candy, MetaDavid [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7184-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5829972&viewfull=1#post5829972]OFFERED ANOTHER[/URL] suggestion, based on his recon.[/QUOTE]I've gotten many numbers from Kgirls. Most are looking for a husband for papers and even some side money without having to return to full time at the spa. I used to take a couple to the casino when I stayed overnight occasionally and it was a good deal IMO. For the same cost of one visit and dinner I would fuck them as many times as I wanted in the night and part ways in the morning. The beating I take at the casino is another story.