Agency Discussion and Reviews

[B]bottom line up front[/B] good provider, open to negotiation. English is alright. Has her menu written out clearly. If you value service as a priority, she is a good pick.

Ew 3 posts in a row. But it's fine, should be my last review in this section for at least a week.

Usual walk up, but had a slight surprise. Sena answered the entry door herself. I wasn't 100% sure if she was who I was seeing or just a replacement door girl. But it was Sena. So yeah, you saw the TER, a bit older than photos, but I already had the pre-research so there's no disappointment going in for me. I signed up for service today and she still looks good for my standards. She's all friendly and smiles.

Inside, she shared the paper with her menu. I already knew I was ordering an experiment, so I went for it. Donation given. English could be better but she tries her best. Into the bathroom for mouthwash, but she joined a little late because she forgot the towels for us. The shower was not uneventful this time. She did a pretty good body to body, had me soap up my hands not just to wash myself but to wash her a bit. Checked on me about the water temperature and gave the preview BBBJ I missed out on from the last session or so.

Onto the bed, she made it there first so I didn't even attempt the massage route haha. Something in between DFK and LFK but she did a lot of it while I did the typical body exploration. She'd move her legs to let me get better angles. Then eventually she went for a position swap for a brief 69 (I was probably bad at it because I wasn't expecting it LOL), but she didn't miss a beat and gave a solid BJ after that for a little while. She didn't need any help with this but it was still ok to move her head like the last girl.

Anyway, then it was time for her to prep me for the trip. And that threw me off a bit (not in a bad way just my usual personal flaw). She said she needed to practice so she decided she needed 3 fingers for my size (definitely overestimating me there) so she used a condom and stuck 3 fingers inside and started warming herself up back there while still giving focus to me with her other hand and a BJ to keep me hard again after the pause. When things were sufficiently comfortable, she mentioned ass first, so she slowly inserted herself after putting a condom on me, and started a slow ride. I was expecting kinda doggy style for the backdoor trip but this wasn't too bad. But I did have to give up because I did think it felt good but had my usual struggle. So she asked suck, and I said yes, as she gave herself another condom to finger her ass while sucking me.

I think she was thinking I was going to work her butt longer after a break, and if it was a stronger day for me, I probably would. But I decided to not fight what works. So I made it clear that was ok she didn't have to try. She even then said refund? And I said no, that's ok she still earned it. So I asked for an inside swap and she was good with that kind of ending. No extra upcharge (I see it as a fee conversion: covered greek turned into CIP instead is the same price). And she was vocal in a good way, asked for me to go deeper as I was about to release anyway. And a satisfying finish. She tried to apologize and say it wasn't a good day for her ass this time but I don't think she was the problem. I got what I mostly wanted out of the experience.

Cleanup, spare time for a post session shower. She gave me a pretty good shower similar to how we started, and even helped dry off at the end. Goodbye kisses and some me being nosy info trading. She looks like she'll stay an entire week. I may not be repeating, but I might change my mind. Depends on how I feel about getting another backdoor experience.

Business post: While I won't say how long, for those few people that dislike the cleaner bro opening the door, seems you'll be dealing with the girl directly for a few days. The process is the exact same as anything else, so to me it makes no difference, but perhaps it does for you. I do kinda get it, like when I walk into a storefront AMP and see a male worker, I already know that's a dead end haha, but the situation here is different.

No Elsa commentary from me. Not a positive or negative, I just wanted to follow intel this week.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7415779][B]bottom line up front[/B] good provider, open to negotiation. English is alright. Has her menu written out clearly. If you value service as a priority, she is a good pick.

Ew 3 posts in a row. But it's fine, should be my last review in this section for at least a week.

Usual walk up, but had a slight surprise. Sena answered the entry door herself. I wasn't 100% sure if she was who I was seeing or just a replacement door girl. But it was Sena. So yeah, you saw the TER, a bit older than photos, but I already had the pre-research so there's no disappointment going in for me. I signed up for service today and she still looks good for my standards. She's all friendly and smiles.

Inside, she shared the paper with her menu. I already knew I was ordering an experiment, so I went for it. Donation given. English could be better but she tries her best. Into the bathroom for mouthwash, but she joined a little late because she forgot the towels for us. The shower was not uneventful this time. She did a pretty good body to body, had me soap up my hands not just to wash myself but to wash her a bit. Checked on me about the water temperature and gave the preview BBBJ I missed out on from the last session or so.

Onto the bed, she made it there first so I didn't even attempt the massage route haha. Something in between DFK and LFK but she did a lot of it while I did the typical body exploration. She'd move her legs to let me get better angles. Then eventually she went for a position swap for a brief 69 (I was probably bad at it because I wasn't expecting it LOL), but she didn't miss a beat and gave a solid BJ after that for a little while. She didn't need any help with this but it was still ok to move her head like the last girl.

Anyway, then it was time for her to prep me for the trip. And that threw me off a bit (not in a bad way just my usual personal flaw). She said she needed to practice so she decided she needed 3 fingers for my size (definitely overestimating me there) so she used a condom and stuck 3 fingers inside and started warming herself up back there while still giving focus to me with her other hand and a BJ to keep me hard again after the pause. When things were sufficiently comfortable, she mentioned ass first, so she slowly inserted herself after putting a condom on me, and started a slow ride. I was expecting kinda doggy style for the backdoor trip but this wasn't too bad. But I did have to give up because I did think it felt good but had my usual struggle. So she asked suck, and I said yes, as she gave herself another condom to finger her ass while sucking me.

I think she was thinking I was going to work her butt longer after a break, and if it was a stronger day for me, I probably would. But I decided to not fight what works. So I made it clear that was ok she didn't have to try. She even then said refund? And I said no, that's ok she still earned it. So I asked for an inside swap and she was good with that kind of ending. No extra upcharge (I see it as a fee conversion: covered greek turned into CIP instead is the same price). And she was vocal in a good way, asked for me to go deeper as I was about to release anyway. And a satisfying finish. She tried to apologize and say it wasn't a good day for her ass this time but I don't think she was the problem. I got what I mostly wanted out of the experience.

Cleanup, spare time for a post session shower. She gave me a pretty good shower similar to how we started, and even helped dry off at the end. Goodbye kisses and some me being nosy info trading. She looks like she'll stay an entire week. I may not be repeating, but I might change my mind. Depends on how I feel about getting another backdoor experience.

Business post: While I won't say how long, for those few people that dislike the cleaner bro opening the door, seems you'll be dealing with the girl directly for a few days. The process is the exact same as anything else, so to me it makes no difference, but perhaps it does for you. I do kinda get it, like when I walk into a storefront AMP and see a male worker, I already know that's a dead end haha, but the situation here is different.

No Elsa commentary from me. Not a positive or negative, I just wanted to follow intel this week.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review! I need to get motivated and see SSG and CCG. Is it easy? I don't want to have to deal with parking and all that craziness.

[QUOTE=Stim69;7417217]Thanks for the review! I need to get motivated and see SSG and CCG. Is it easy? I don't want to have to deal with parking and all that craziness.[/QUOTE]Parking for SSG is super easy and convenience. For CCG, it takes a little bit of walking. You need to get verified by them before you can book.

[QUOTE=Stim69;7417217]Thanks for the review! I need to get motivated and see SSG and CCG. Is it easy? I don't want to have to deal with parking and all that craziness.[/QUOTE]Well it's still not a just walk in situation and I cannot accurately describe the situation at CCG, but yeah. Once you are over the initial hurdle which is verification. And that is a big hurdle for many because if things go bad, it's worse than an AMP. But that's a whole subject in itself. What I will say is the verification that got me through was [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35949-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7323583&viewfull=1#post7323583]relatively minimal[/URL].

If you have things that I didn't have, like references from another Chinese or K-org respectively ([URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35949-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7368736&highlight=verification#post7368736]don't mix streams[/URL]), then you may be able to get by without the ID. But since I lacked all of that, I didn't fight hard against it. I just did what I felt was comfortable enough with some room for plausible deniability for myself.

Trusting them as if I have insider knowledge is foolish but what I do trust is their ability to stay aware of the situation. Both CCG and SSG have moved locations over time. Could and likely will happen again. But where SSG is now is not as personally great for me as their first location was, but I believe it is better for not attracting as much unwanted attention. And the easy parking supports that. I can't reasonably leave more information than that.

[QUOTE=LongLee;7417312]Parking for SSG is super easy and convenience. For CCG, it takes a little bit of walking. You need to get verified by them before you can book.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I have been verified by CCG before with I'd. I just have not gone. I got verified in Feb. Of this year.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7417360]Well it's still not a just walk in situation and I cannot accurately describe the situation at CCG, but yeah. Once you are over the initial hurdle which is verification. And that is a big hurdle for many because if things go bad, it's worse than an AMP. But that's a whole subject in itself. What I will say is the verification that got me through was [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35949-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7323583&viewfull=1#post7323583]relatively minimal[/URL].

If you have things that I didn't have, like references from another Chinese or K-org respectively ([URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35949-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7368736&highlight=verification#post7368736]don't mix streams[/URL]), then you may be able to get by without the ID. But since I lacked all of that, I didn't fight hard against it. I just did what I felt was comfortable enough with some room for plausible deniability for myself.

Trusting them as if I have insider knowledge is foolish but what I do trust is their ability to stay aware of the situation. Both CCG and SSG have moved locations over time. Could and likely will happen again. But where SSG is now is not as personally great for me as their first location was, but I believe it is better for not attracting as much unwanted attention. And the easy parking supports that. I can't reasonably leave more information than that.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I use to go to the Gulch area and it was kind of a pain in the ass. Pay to park and get buzzed in which is fine from a security aspect but there is a little more to it vs an AMP. Guess I have gotten lazy.

[QUOTE=Stim69;7417421]Thanks! I use to go to the Gulch area and it was kind of a pain in the ass. Pay to park and get buzzed in which is fine from a security aspect but there is a little more to it vs an AMP. Guess I have gotten lazy.[/QUOTE]Yeah you won't need to go through all of that. Free street parking near this location and give a warning text near the door.

The old location did sometimes have that whole gate code stuff but I believe that's what added to the problem. Secure sure, but if people end up looking awkward around an entrance too long, it probably got noticed.

Anyway, no harm either way. I'm not actually here to push you in a particular direction. Most AMP supporters are also allies of mine. And honestly they are different niches, so there's room for them all, just may not be money for them all haha.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7417796]Yeah you won't need to go through all of that. Free street parking near this location and give a warning text near the door.

The old location did sometimes have that whole gate code stuff but I believe that's what added to the problem. Secure sure, but if people end up looking awkward around an entrance too long, it probably got noticed.

Anyway, no harm either way. I'm not actually here to push you in a particular direction. Most AMP supporters are also allies of mine. And honestly they are different niches, so there's room for them all, just may not be money for them all haha.[/QUOTE]Haha no worries. I just like convenience. I went to Donelson and saw my favorite this past Sunday and I get stuck on seeing the same one over and over. At this point, Donelson isn't convenient, it's more about the service I get. I need to break the routine more.

[QUOTE=Stim69;7417862]Haha no worries. I just like convenience. I went to Donelson and saw my favorite this past Sunday and I get stuck on seeing the same one over and over. At this point, Donelson isn't convenient, it's more about the service I get. I need to break the routine more.[/QUOTE]Favorites are good too. The whole getting to know a new girl every time has it's ups and downs. That's why I've replaced most of my AMP exploration with this. My little HFS stamp card was basically Angela, Cici, and Apple.

If I pop into a new or infrequently visited AMP, I'm getting the new girl effect anyway. But the new girl there probably won't massage very long, be a bit older anyway, might not honor the time or level of service requested. So if I'm going to roll the dice, I might as well do it here. A high roll here is amazing, I still think about Yuria and a few others haha. And a low roll still hurts. But it hurts with respect to someone like Angela. It doesn't give me the "I wish I had my money back" feeling. And a combo of luck and intel has helped me with that here.

I just wish I could figure it out a little better and faster. I'm confident in my pick for Sena (for me) this week, but last week with the Ami vs Rumi angle, I couldn't get a clear read on that situation. And I'm finding out later that Ami had some fans haha.

[QUOTE=Ayasaki;7418111]Favorites are good too. The whole getting to know a new girl every time has it's ups and downs. That's why I've replaced most of my AMP exploration with this. My little HFS stamp card was basically Angela, Cici, and Apple.

If I pop into a new or infrequently visited AMP, I'm getting the new girl effect anyway. But the new girl there probably won't massage very long, be a bit older anyway, might not honor the time or level of service requested. So if I'm going to roll the dice, I might as well do it here. A high roll here is amazing, I still think about Yuria and a few others haha. And a low roll still hurts. But it hurts with respect to someone like Angela. It doesn't give me the "I wish I had my money back" feeling. And a combo of luck and intel has helped me with that here.

I just wish I could figure it out a little better and faster. I'm confident in my pick for Sena (for me) this week, but last week with the Ami vs Rumi angle, I couldn't get a clear read on that situation. And I'm finding out later that Ami had some fans haha.[/QUOTE]Yep! This is exactly my track. Those 3 as well but I still enjoy Angela. Funny how it all plays out. I use to be a Tyrst only guy and now stuck on AMP. Guess I will gravitate to the CCG and SSG. I will not go back to Tyrst full time like before, unless I have too.

[QUOTE=Stim69;7418217]Yep! This is exactly my track. Those 3 as well but I still enjoy Angela. Funny how it all plays out. I use to be a Tyrst only guy and now stuck on AMP. Guess I will gravitate to the CCG and SSG. I will not go back to Tyrst full time like before, unless I have too.[/QUOTE]Yeah I imagine Tryst is fine too. I've avoided it because I never really found someone (in the Asian filter) I thought was interesting enough or they all had the other issues I didn't want to deal with, deposit, stricter verification, or a price that rivals getting a full combo meal here. I'm lazy too, so I see all that and just go like. Back to the AMP girls.

Hey guys, I am going to be in town next week and I think I'm going to try one of these agencies. I have to say the info and details you guys have provided on these places is incredible and I thank you all for that. One thing I am wondering is do these sessions allow for more than one pop or is the protocol typically pop then you're on your way out? I also saw mention of receiving a menu upon arrival? Is that a standard or just with certain girls? What are the average markups on the extra menu options? Appreciate any help, stay safe.

Hey guys, I am going to be in town next week and I think I'd like to give one of these agencies a shot. One thing I am curious about is do these sessions allow for multiple pops if time permits? Just curious if you pop then get pushed out the door or if the girls let you get as much out of your time as you can. Also I saw mention of menus being given upon arrival. Is that a standard procedure with these ladies or does it vary, and what are the markups for addons typically? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Suketchi;7421256]Hey guys, I am going to be in town next week and I think I'd like to give one of these agencies a shot. One thing I am curious about is do these sessions allow for multiple pops if time permits? Just curious if you pop then get pushed out the door or if the girls let you get as much out of your time as you can. Also I saw mention of menus being given upon arrival. Is that a standard procedure with these ladies or does it vary, and what are the markups for addons typically? Thanks![/QUOTE]

Most of the time, the menu is listed on the agency’s website. You just tell the agency what you would like, and you’re all set. I’ve never seen anyone provided with a menu upon arrival—maybe my experience just isn’t broad enough. Both agencies are good; you can choose either one. It really depends on your preferences and which providers are available when you visit. Keep in mind that verification might take more than a day, so plan ahead. Once you’re verified, you can contact them anytime you like.

[QUOTE=Suketchi;7420963]Hey guys, I am going to be in town next week and I think I'm going to try one of these agencies. I have to say the info and details you guys have provided on these places is incredible and I thank you all for that. One thing I am wondering is do these sessions allow for more than one pop or is the protocol typically pop then you're on your way out? I also saw mention of receiving a menu upon arrival? Is that a standard or just with certain girls? What are the average markups on the extra menu options? Appreciate any help, stay safe.[/QUOTE]

The experiences are different at each organization so I can only speak with authority on one, SSG, the other organization, CCG, have their own pricing benefits not reflected in what I'm about to say. In both cases, some of the information is on their respective websites but the rest is discussed in the room.

So from a SSG standpoint, it differs by girl. Some will tell it to you, have it typed on their phone, Sena was probably the first I actually saw handwrite it. There is sometimes room for negotiation but be cautious with that one as some may be strict on their pricing. Everything I say below is still up to the girl.

I'm not really a two pop guy unfortunately so can't [i]technically[/i] give an actual 2 pop answer. If it is 1 hour, usually 2 pop is a safe inclusion. If it is less, it's probably up to the girl if she is alright with you enough to not rush you out. They will use warning alarm clock timers though. But beyond that, there was only one who I encountered that was like go ahead and shower after the pop, but at least she let me pay less for the extra since my session was so short. The others I was able to either sorta hang out and cuddle or I was close to time anyway and it didn't matter.

Here,the extras are kinda ethnically related. BBBJ is included with everyone I've known. All Chinese have been no BBFS or anything else that have required extra payment. (There are BBFS Chinese that exist, they just haven't been here). But as a counter to that, they also were more likely to serve the best with whatever they were willing to do. CIM or rimming sometimes. Never was an extra charge.

I think we chased the Koreans off here but they were in between Chinese and Japanese. BBFS is available (wait for the Japanese section for prices). Video may or may not be available. Massage was decent although it did seem to follow a strict formula.

Japanese are the ones carrying the most options and as such the most expensive if you try to get everything. However, even they don't all offer the same things. Some possibly do and just don't mention it if you don't ask. And they are also often highly variable as far as actual service performance. There are some duds but also some great ones. You'll have to be willing to gamble if they don't have some lead in reviews.

BBFS COP/CIP 100/200. Some girls won't trust you if you go for the COP option so they'll just outright request the 200. But many times I've been able to work my way up, so sometimes when my willpower is stronger, I save haha.

Video is 100-200, 200 is a bit more common but I haven't really paid that upcharge often. But many of them offer it. Because I haven't taken it I can't say how often it's with or without face, but both times I've done it, I have it with face included.

Greek, well again Sena was the only one but 200 with condom, 300 without condom. I didn't go for greek without condom so I don't know if that means you can also go BBFS with the same tip pricing. I kinda suspect you wouldn't have to double pay but I truly don't know.

Deepthroat, I've only ever seen one girl charge for that which was like 50.

CIM or COF can be a charge of 100. But I never really get that kinda ending with the Jgirls so I can't say I've paid that or if they really care as long as you paid anything extra.

So go in with what you might want to do in mind, but don't forget strategies in your favor. While the 200 BBFSCIP can be considered high, if you are good with one one of those super thin 001 types, you'd save a lot but that's not something I've tried. Instead, I point to the base pricing. If you know all you want is 30 minutes, at 240 could save you a lot. And the 45 minute option is kinda a nice middle ground since it is often 300.

But I say often because sometimes someone passes by with a higher price than usual. And price creep is happening if you watch other places.

For example (only relevant at the time I am writing this), you can visit https://risingsun8.com/index and see some ideas. There's 360/h girls. 380. 400. And even a 450 girl. Aya was here with CCG maybe a month or two ago, and she was 400/h then I believe. Over in California, as much as people do rightfully talk up their all inclusive rates, there are also ones that go the other direction and that one is [url=https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/angel]Angel with a 600/h[/url] price without extras. Which when I think about it, is still cheaper than some girls on tryst here but I'll leave that alone haha.

My actual point is know some base expectations, bring enough for what you know you want but be open to soft negotiations if you can get them. Otherwise, know yourself and how much time you really need so you don't overpay.