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I'm an inexperienced rookie sugar daddy.

Looking for my first but I'm curious what yall are paying either monthly or per meet.

Some chick in fetlife quoted 8 to 950 er meet LOL.

[QUOTE=Padrote425;7512079]I'm an inexperienced rookie sugar daddy.

Looking for my first but I'm curious what yall are paying either monthly or per meet.

Some chick in fetlife quoted 8 to 950 er meet LOL.[/QUOTE]It varies based on financial ability but I think a decent average of opinion on this board is that 5 is max (some go a bit above that) and then it's GPS. Even then, she better be a fucking spectacular unicorn for that. I tend to be ok with the 3-4 range for bbcip / cim / msog.

If you're new, here's some advice. First RTFF. Lots of good info in this thread. Lots of bullshit, too, but the difference should be obvious.

Trust your gut, if you think it's too good to be true then it is. This is a numbers game so don't expect good and fast results. Don't let the little head make decisions. Wait for a good match, they are out there but can be hard to find.

NEVER send money ahead of time for any reason. It doesn't matter what she says about "needing to prove you're serious" or that she's been burned before. It's a scam. Even if it's not a scam, it's a scam. If she won't move ahead without you sending money, walk away. Same thing for a paid meet and greet. Lots of stories on this board about a girl showing for a m&g, taking the money, and then disappearing.

Don't invite them to your place. Some guys on here don't follow this but keep as much of a barrier between your real life and the hobby as possible. Even in you live alone you are opening up lines of vulnerability once she knows where you live and has been inside. Ideally don't even park where they can see your vehicle when you meet. This goes even after you've seen one a few times. After a while you think you can trust them and your guard slips. Don't do that. Not saying be a dick, but set boundaries for your protection.

Search this thread for names and links, this will help you not waste time with certain ones that others have gotten intel on.

Don't discuss rates, activities, ppm, etc on the site. SA especially will perma-ban you and unless you are fairly tech savvy they will catch you opening new accounts. They read all your DMs, scan them for keywords, etc. Example, if you use the word 'arrangement' in a DM to a SB you'll get a warning before you send it.

Have I mentioned that you should NEVER send money up front or pay for a m&g? Doesn't matter how hot she is in the pic or in person, even if she didn't set out to burn you money in hand is a huge temptation. Just don't do it. You've been warned.

If the girl is pushing for a monthly salary, tell her you'll do ppm for at least three or four months before you'd be comfortable negotiating that. Monthly allowances almost never work out better for you.

On paying for meet and greets. I will pay 50 or 100 for an M&G to check someone out but I always hold out the option to upgrade to a full intimate meetup at an agreed upon price.

If they ask for money before meeting, a good counter is to say you will give them cash money if they meet face-to-face right away. Scammers will never take that offer so even if they are 500 miles away you are safe making that counteroffer. I do that because sometimes the excuses are pretty damned entertaining.

If girls are asking GPS prices, I will often move the terms of the meetup rather than negotiating on price if I think I really want to meet her. Like if they are asking something ridiculous like 1500 I will tell them explicitly what my expectations are at that price and ask them if they are comfortable with that. So for 1500 I might say something like, "for 1500 I expect a three-day weekend at a nice hotel and you give me free use and open access to anything and any part of you I desire. " Damned few will say yes to that.

Those two posts are pure gold. Everyone sugaring should read them.

[QUOTE=Padrote425;7512079]I'm an inexperienced rookie sugar daddy.

Looking for my first but I'm curious what yall are paying either monthly or per meet.

Some chick in fetlife quoted 8 to 950 er meet LOL.[/QUOTE]Go read the Richmond sugarbaby forum. Arguably the de facto Bible on the How To of sugar dating on this app. There are over 25,000 posts so it is very likely any lingering questions should be covered there.

And if you Search my Previous Forum Posts, you will note that I have never stated what I paid a girl because price is negotiable and on a case by case basis. Typing the girl's quote, or typing what some other monger paid, is no guarantee that is what will transpire in your situation.

Juts like a Senior Member on this app said eons ago:[B] "There's no such thing as an $800 hooker, only an $800 trick"[/B]. These hoes believe we Johns should be engaged in some kind of bidding wars for a part of their body that 4 Billion other persons on this planet also have LOL.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7451016]But these two are real, reasonable and dtf.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=74234344[/URL]

I think she wanted my dick more than I wanted to fuck LOL.

As always a little bigger then I wanted.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=73597304[/URL]

Both repeatable if I am in Oly or DuPont for work.[/QUOTE]I had a very strange texting encounter with the first one listed. Everything started out great then went completely sideways. Told her what I was looking for and made some small talk. She was all for setting up a meet. I suggested a quick meet and greet first and she was all for it. I said she can pick a spot in Olympia. Then it went weird, really weird.

She resent the first text she sent. It was "hey hope your having a good day" then another cut and paste "what are you looking for" I'm looking for blah blah blah and such.

We all ready went over all of this. It was like someone else was replying. The whole tone and style changed from friendly and warm to cold with an attitude of why are you bothering me.

Not sure if they are using an AI app to auto reply or what.

I know some of you have seen she so she is real. Who I was texting with may have been a different person. Out of hundreds of texting conversations I've never seen anything like this.

Anyway its a very bad vibe for me and that's the end of that.

Hopefully if you contact her things aren't so strange.

My membership expires so this is the final batch. Overall no good ones for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/897934be-deea-4df9-a429-c454cdb4f2f4[/URL]
Bella, she has two profiles, asked 500 ppm, she has a boyfriend drives her around, bigger and heavier in person, pics are filtered.
She left in 30 min after one shot, watch out, she said 500 ppm BBFS for a couple hours, but left without telling me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/241f33c6-5050-4422-ba8f-faa7a3b0088a[/URL]
Grace, talks forever but won't give a quote, not sure what she's looking for.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b8b5b917-5bbf-4abf-b978-b6da6b4e574e[/URL]
Nina, pics are filtered, came with a friend and I kindly declined.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/74243b51-08e1-43ca-a3a3-57b21c587db1[/URL]
Ellisa, scam, I know I posted her before as content seller, she hmu again but for meeting.
Agreed on a number and then demand prepay.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/994f59e2-b132-47d0-b632-3830f98ee386[/URL]
Zain, game player, 800 ppm, when time to meet ghosted, wasted my hotel booking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eba733e5-f17f-4cc0-9cd4-cac16ff0fe87[/URL]
Jessica, 1600 ppm, asking for prepay, she's 32, didn't bother to counter.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e4d3bf6-072c-4b92-a767-d10ca0fbc8b9[/URL]
Emmy, game player, 4000 per month, asked to book a hotel and then blocked me last minute, wasted my hotel booking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/29f38bfa-c825-4898-b848-84a808437675[/URL]
Kitty, 1000 ppm, she hmu on bumble and then found her on SA, didn't meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/054dcb74-a5be-4a5b-a27d-2b0bbf686bb6[/URL]
Kaydance, she has a lot of reports here, real photos, clock watcher and only 1 shot for me, 500 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8603cc3-c80f-4e9c-bbae-d2c792e67118[/URL]
Hailey, 500 ppm, blocked me the day of meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6109b9ba-a0aa-4b5d-a6e7-004b67adf0b8[/URL]
Rilesss, escort, message me everyday, not interested.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5aa97886-1081-49cb-b370-4f0ef3b1b086[/URL]
Lana, game player, live with her SD, asking to meet all the way up in Bellingham and ghosted last minute.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18cb790d-f566-4989-b8f6-3a3f6c52b747[/URL]
Chelz, kept changing quote and too flaky, 750 ppm.

There is a bad one, her profile is gone for me. Stripper at kittens, agreed 500 ppm BBFS, hosted in a scary place in Tacoma, when in person said only hand job, watch out.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a973243e-87dc-40fb-bce6-666c4b887200[/URL]

Anyone in Seattle chat up this one? She says she will drive down here to Portland. Wants gas money LOL.

Not going to lie, it's been a rough past couple of months. Way too many flakes, no shows, time wasters, fake profiles to wade through, GPS and more. Here are a few to be wary of:

Sarah Luvv.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3f26ab7-7fe4-43b3-b371-1e97f05297c1[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/351df3b1-8f3c-4310-9349-2255651f169d[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=73909992&nsp=1[/URL]

Originally asked for 800, no anal, condoms. I countered much less, BB, etc. I then went on a business trip for a couple of weeks, we were texting, saw a report on her on the board, followed up. Found out she has face tats and pics are way out of date. I draw the line at face tats.

Iridessa.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0fa47ebd-5ead-4f27-a6b3-cfbf516e1d96[/URL]

Content seller. I suggested m&g to see if we were a good fit. She responded with "Yeah sure! Are you interested in content too?" She never responded after I said no.

Lakken.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3362d395-db79-4a03-a6cd-ee7f2a58d071[/URL]

I had high hopes for this one. Cute 30's divorced moms with pent up energy can be good fucks. Asked for 600, countered with 400, agreed to 500. Was fine with BB because she said she's had her tubes tied. I was up north on business, so we were going to meet at Tulalip. Figured we'd grab a room if things went well. Texted the morning of saying her period started early. Agreed to reschedule. No show for dinner and no response since.

Michelle.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c76ea62a-a8be-458d-8a74-795987f1de37[/URL]

Lists Seattle as 2nd location, but assuming that's BS. Said she was moving here for work from Sacramento. Agreed on all the terms, had date set to meet at Zig Zag for cocktails. Texted she's running 10 min late. Half-hour later she says sorry things are hectic, not coming. Log back in and see her current location, which had been turned off, is now Sacramento.

Tracie.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e2bbcc6d-28f7-411b-9d42-e01f4512d9ce[/URL]

Lives in LA, but has family up here and visits a few times a year. GPS. "Anything less than 700 is an insult. " But did say she likes to go all night as many rounds as you can and loves a good creampie.

Howdy.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=74195417[/URL]

Story just kept getting worse and worse every text. Started out with a nice "I love to meet in the evenings for a few hours for dinner, drinks, great convo and great sex. " 500. Eventually learned she recently moved from Florida, supposedly has a job, has not yet landed an apartment, so living out of motels, has no car so can only travel by bus and cannot host. Um, no.

Bunny.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/413b6222-8370-4eec-8b76-71014f400037[/URL]

Had a M&G. Real and naturally gorgeous, but really wants a traditional SD who can give her a monthly allowance, take her shopping regularly, and give her a lifestyle she cannot afford. If she considered PPM, it'd be "at least 1000. ".

[QUOTE=CameraShy;7514934]Not going to lie, it's been a rough past couple of months. Way too many flakes, no shows, time wasters, fake profiles to wade through, GPS and more. Here are a few to be wary of: [/QUOTE]She looks familiar, like a gal off TNA, Lexi something. TOTAL safety gal. Got reprimanded when asked about DATY. Cute but what a headache with such limited menu. NOT sure if the same gal but looks very similar.

[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;7508880]8 out of 10. I fuc on the first date. Sometimes it's a meet for coffee fuc the next time and don't discuss money. I give enough so she is ready whenever I am and she's slim and under 25![/QUOTE]I almost always do a coffee / drink planned short meet and greet because anything else is a waste of time. 2nd meet is sex 10/10 times I'd say. Act cool like a normal date and you'll get lucky. Agree keep money out of it, don't make her feel like a pro.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/89ee0b42-5150-4621-9a20-4c966870808e[/URL]

Emma, told me how much she is eager to meet, when it's the meet day she told me sorry she has a boyfriend.

[QUOTE=Seattlebp;7514426]My membership expires so this is the final batch. Overall no good ones for me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/897934be-deea-4df9-a429-c454cdb4f2f4[/URL]
Bella, she has two profiles, asked 500 ppm, she has a boyfriend drives her around, bigger and heavier in person, pics are filtered.
She left in 30 min after one shot, watch out, she said 500 ppm BBFS for a couple hours, but left without telling me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b8b5b917-5bbf-4abf-b978-b6da6b4e574e[/URL]
Nina, pics are filtered, came with a friend and I kindly declined.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/74243b51-08e1-43ca-a3a3-57b21c587db1[/URL]
Ellisa, scam, I know I posted her before as content seller, she hmu again but for meeting.
Agreed on a number and then demand prepay.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/994f59e2-b132-47d0-b632-3830f98ee386[/URL]
Zain, game player, 800 ppm, when time to meet ghosted, wasted my hotel booking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eba733e5-f17f-4cc0-9cd4-cac16ff0fe87[/URL]
Jessica, 1600 ppm, asking for prepay, she's 32, didn't bother to counter..[/QUOTE]I appreciate you guys in the field doing the hard work and reporting back on what it's like out there. I have to admit these reports are blowing my mind! It really is a complete shit show of insanity out there right now! WTF! Dude, all this time, money and effort for these mediocre at best girls, holy fuck this is some crazy shit! I think it's time to bid Seeking / Sugar farewell in the PNW! No way in hell would I waste another minute on these delusional, below average, GPS seeking girls. Best to just find a nice relaxing massage spot with a fun happy ending and call it a day!

Looking to trade some SB Utrs. One for one and under 25 preferably 23.

-22 yr Filipina / black 5'5 110 lbs BBFS, open to anal, avg bb skills likes rough play South of Seattle area free weeknights and weekends. You will need to be under 40 and good looking with good hygiene. She is 7. 5/10 in a cute and endearing way. Shy but also spicy when she opens up. Fair rates.

-20 yr Latina single mom. Great body and pretty BBFS decent head open to rough. Lives in Yakima and can host but comes to Seattle once a month to see SDs at a Airbnb. Fair rates wants good / decent looking with good hygiene. Starts at 5 can work her down.

I want under 25 BBFS open minded and pretty. White,

Latina or Asian.