The man has a point on no Admin attacks
To change the subject on a lighter note. Went to Btown Sat and after driving down looking for my favorite "cream cone" lady discovered that the school of higher education there was on break, the puppy mill was only being visited by adult men and women, and maybe only two other ladies who were probably college Jrs or Snrs "Browsing" the cute little guy and female puppies passing time. Did not see my favorite or any other ladies who appeared to be shopping for something nice to fill them up. After wasting two to four hours came home and had a long boring weekend after contacting two ladies who I had not contacted before under BR section. Neither one liked to ingest the fruits of their labor so planning ahead for next time. The moral to this immoral adventure is make sure you find out the particulars of the area you are going to and if you can not find what you are looking for in your immediate area, time for a road trip. As for the man who is BMing the admin let us say it would be like putting Pee Wee Herman up against the undertaker in an old WWE match. Just grab your azz with both hands and move on down the line cause ya ain't got a chance in hell of winning that one. JMO My tx check just came in so time to go spread some cheer green and other kind and see if I can find the higher level fun off the back of Uncle Same, and the rest of you have a good week.
This is what I am afraid of
[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3793193]I took on the challenge of looking for new pussy on the sites that are still available. This is what I discovered.
Ginger: She posts as a redhead on OneBackpage. She has ads all over the country but I thought I would give it a shot because of the red hair and abundant freckles. The long and short of it she only does outcalls, has to talk on the phone, wouldn't pic verify and her rates were high - $200 hhr and $300 hr. I declined because for those prices I would go see proven providers like Susie Q, Hannah, Elle or any of the others that have made a name for themselves. See the link below for Ginger.
[URL]http://onebackpage.com/adult/female-escorts/775-276-3684_i4487876[/URL]
SweetVanessa: She posts on USA Adult Classifieds and used to be on BP. I contacted her early and it took hours to finally set up an appointment. She said "No BB, No Greek, No roughness, No AA, always discreet" I tried to clarify the No BB if that included BBBJ. I asked her if she was GFE and she said "I offer the sensual kissing and class of a girlfriend but no BB anything. " Well to me that's not GFE. I decided to try her out and gave her my approximate location. She wanted a 3 finger pic which I sent and she sent one to me but, it was a pic from her previous ads not a selfie like mine. She was pretty good on the communication until she was 5 minutes away and then she went ghost. Not nice Vanessa! She does offer an incall on the NW side which might be a better bet however I won't be seeing her after ghosting me at 1:30 AM. Her rates are in her ad below. She has been reviewed favorably before, I think as Sherylin and a link to her old ad is below as well.
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/147/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/50604-Hello-I-m-Vanessa-Im-Available-24-7-In-Outcall-Satisfactory-Service-Provider-Gentleman-Only-.html[/URL]
[URL]https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/indianapolis/765-398-6423/1/557941[/URL]
Cardiair25 Sweet Sammy: She posts on USA Adult Classifieds and also used to be on BP. Her first questions were race and age. She said she was GFE and $200 hr. She is staying on the Westside at a decent hotel. She does both Incall and Outcall. I opted for the Incall. She pic verified since her pic in USAAC was poor. Very nice looking with long brown hair but, not the same pics that she used when she advertised on BP. I headed over and she went ghost. Then she finally replied after an hour saying her battery died on her phone. I told her I was 5 minutes away and she replied ok but, I needed to use Paypal. I told her no and said I had $200 in green and that's what guys will contribute from this site but, nobody is going to do Paypal and then have you disappear. She told me she would never do that and I said Ya Iv'e heard that one before. LOL. So we never met up but she later texted me she would do cash but, it would have to be tomorrow after 2. Her USAAC ad is below along with a link to her old profile. She might be worth a shot.
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/147/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/50744-sweet-sweet-Sammy.html[/URL]
[URL]https://liveescortreviews.com/ad/indianapolis/850-691-9648/1/582946[/URL]
So it was a night of lots of texts and calls but no pussy. Oh well tomorrow is another day.[/QUOTE]More and more so called providers advertising on th sister site that are unreliable, unsafe and will make the sister site pages and pages of BS. I truly hope not because it's been a go to for newbies and long time members to find reliable, reputable providers. The ones that have advertised on there with exception of a couple now and then have been well reviewed and have been known to be reputable and most importantly safe. I'm all for variety (believe me I'm a equal opportunity provider) but I truly don't want to see this turn into BP or CL. Everyone stay safe. Xoxo mmgeg.
[blue]Ummmm, it's attached to a review site, just saying
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Change is a good thing don't get me wrong.
[QUOTE=BFDeal;3794605]This was bound to happen. Us hobbyists have the good providers on our cellphones anyway. Many of the backpage chicks jumping over to here is good for everyone, especially this website. Heck, I had three chicks cold-text me Saturday (one in Indy, two in Cincy). The only real change could be more spur-of-the-moment get-together. No need to push panic buttons. My suggestion for cities like Indy (or even Cincy) would be to get the dozen or so hot providers together with some hobbyists for a meet-and-greet. That way us hobbyists can get a few more cell numbers and the providers can feel more at ease. Going UTR (meaning someone who can't advertise on here for whatever reason) may not be that bad. And a meet-and-greet can solve the problem of some of the hot providers finally meeting reputable hobbyists who, for some reason, have fallen through the cracks and haven't had the chance to get together. But the person organizing a meet-and-greet would have to be someone experienced in doing so. There were a few hidden gems on backpage. That shutdown might be a blessing in disguise. Just my two cents.
BFDeal.[/QUOTE]I agree that there are some great and gorgeous providers on BP (why they advertised on there have no idea) and will be a great change to see them on the sister site, I'm discussing the ones that aren't so great or the spam ads that have started already and yes all might A2 I may be blonde but I do understand the sister site is attached to the review board (being so cheeky. I like it LOL I was just making a observation. Even though I do not partake in meet and greets I have heard they do well.
Change is a good thing don't get me wrong.
[QUOTE=BFDeal;3794605]This was bound to happen. Us hobbyists have the good providers on our cellphones anyway. Many of the backpage chicks jumping over to here is good for everyone, especially this website. Heck, I had three chicks cold-text me Saturday (one in Indy, two in Cincy). The only real change could be more spur-of-the-moment get-together. No need to push panic buttons. My suggestion for cities like Indy (or even Cincy) would be to get the dozen or so hot providers together with some hobbyists for a meet-and-greet. That way us hobbyists can get a few more cell numbers and the providers can feel more at ease. Going UTR (meaning someone who can't advertise on here for whatever reason) may not be that bad. And a meet-and-greet can solve the problem of some of the hot providers finally meeting reputable hobbyists who, for some reason, have fallen through the cracks and haven't had the chance to get together. But the person organizing a meet-and-greet would have to be someone experienced in doing so. There were a few hidden gems on backpage. That shutdown might be a blessing in disguise. Just my two cents.
BFDeal.[/QUOTE]I agree that there are some great and gorgeous providers on BP (why they advertised on there have no idea) and will be a great change to see them on the sister site, I'm discussing the ones that aren't so great or the spam ads that have started already and yes all might A2 I may be blonde but I do understand the sister site is attached to the review board (being so cheeky. I like it LOL I was just making a observation. Even though I do not partake in meet and greets I have heard they do well.
I think we got off topic in general reports.
Of what has transpired this past week. It had nothing to do with screening. Let's say that again. It had nothing to do with screening. Now has things been compromised? Perhaps and perhaps not. Were Discreet girls on AMB and the Sister Site? Yes they were. Does having a screener make you safer? No it doesn't. Screeners make mistakes and sometimes do not even do their job correctly and there has been instances where that statement is very true. The providers that are reputable and have made a name for themselves and have been reviewed on the Sister Site are still safe. Being on a website advertising does not make anyone safe. That's why we screen. That's why we ask the questions we do. That's why we do not accept certain things like text apps and burners or voip services. That's why most of us have a services we pay monthly that we are able to ensure our safety as well as our clients. Most importantly you make yourself aware of your surroundings and make sure that if you are indeed seeing 5 plus clients a day that you are at least being discreet about it. Those things have nothing to do with any website that you are advertising on. It's called common sense.
Yes screening was involved. From my information
[QUOTE=Mmgeg;3844494]Of what has transpired this past week. It had nothing to do with screening. Let's say that again. It had nothing to do with screening. Now has things been compromised? Perhaps and perhaps not. Were Discreet girls on AMB and the Sister Site? Yes they were. Does having a screener make you safer? No it doesn't. Screeners make mistakes and sometimes do not even do their job correctly and there has been instances where that statement is very true. The providers that are reputable and have made a name for themselves and have been reviewed on the Sister Site are still safe. Being on a website advertising does not make anyone safe. That's why we screen. That's why we ask the questions we do. That's why we do not accept certain things like text apps and burners or voip services. That's why most of us have a services we pay monthly that we are able to ensure our safety as well as our clients. Most importantly you make yourself aware of your surroundings and make sure that if you are indeed seeing 5 plus clients a day that you are at least being discreet about it. Those things have nothing to do with any website that you are advertising on. It's called common sense.[/QUOTE]The head screener from DI was allegedly compromised by LE. If true how does the head vetter get in that position? Why did Darsi come on if it was her and say no other girls from DI were on any other sites but DI when that was not true. Most people who prevaricate do so because they feel they have to cover up a bad thing. We should all be together and most of all aware of what went down. If DI was involved or one of it's members or more then being an agency all the girls working their could become objects of scrutiny by those we would not want to oversee them. Your idea of having services to screen for you is a good one but begs the question of why did the screener for DI fail What went wrong. If it had nothing to do with screening then how did they get found out or she? Not sure if there was more than one. I have heard anywhere from one to three. Who knows but obviously the vetting process did not work if there was an issue with Uncle. Discuss this back channel not out in the open When a straight story is offered let us all know for our own edification. Stops rumors. Have a happy 4th and enjoy.
Talked again with two people who assured me that
[QUOTE=BigMack;3845087]The head screener from DI was allegedly compromised by LE. If true how does the head vetter get in that position? Why did Darsi come on if it was her and say no other girls from DI were on any other sites but DI when that was not true. Most people who prevaricate do so because they feel they have to cover up a bad thing. We should all be together and most of all aware of what went down. If DI was involved or one of it's members or more then being an agency all the girls working their could become objects of scrutiny by those we would not want to oversee them. Your idea of having services to screen for you is a good one but begs the question of why did the screener for DI fail What went wrong. If it had nothing to do with screening then how did they get found out or she? Not sure if there was more than one. I have heard anywhere from one to three. Who knows but obviously the vetting process did not work if there was an issue with Uncle. Discuss this back channel not out in the open When a straight story is offered let us all know for our own edification. Stops rumors. Have a happy 4th and enjoy.[/QUOTE]DIs screener was not the problem AMBs was. Also was told however that ladies from AMB and DI worked both sides of the isle along with USASG. Who do you trust except those you know are quality and trustworthy. I hope this works out for those ladies and gents who do NOT flip on their brothers and sisters. As for me no agencies for me just sticking with the quality trustworthy independents and hope I make the right decisions. Just an encouragement to both watch your backs on both sides. We need to help each other.
Assumptions and the Dust Settles
I hope this is the proper forum to post in. A lot of assumptions have been made, having seen ladies from both AMB and DI, talking to friends in the know, clarity seems to be returning now that the dust is settling.
AMB, AdultMutualBenefits, and DI, Discreetinfo, are separate internet platforms, some models from both sites advertised on each others site, there were even some independents on both sites. Neither AMB or DI are affiliated with each other they just allowed each other to use their internet platform to advertise their models to increase exposure. Some ladies from both sites advertised on other other platforms as well like the sister site, onebackpage as well as others.
AMB ladies had to be contacted via e-mail to set up an appointment. Once verified a contact phone number was provided to arrange the appointment. Only one phone number was used to contact any AMB lady.
DI models have a phone number to contact them, each model has different phone number, each customer contacting the models are screened before an appointment is established.
All of this was pretty simple to figure out if you had seen ladies from both sites, like I had. The screening method by both sites was also different in my experience.
As far as the circumstances that occurred at the south side location last week, only one provider was arrested, all other models and hobbyist's at the location were released with no charges. The screening process failed because an independent Milfy and a small time CMT flipped, as well as a hobbyist that had seen ladies from AMB in the past. When people in the biz flip then it's very difficult for any screening process to be accurate.
AMB is now shut down, won't be back, the provider arrested is out of the business for good, anyone contacted from AMB by e-mail or by the phone number used to set up appointments should ignore them.
No models from DI were involved, all models are safe, business should continue as usual.
Don't PM me asking for more info because this is all I know, there are other more senior members on the board that know more than me, however silence is golden.
What I would really like to know and so would the ladies and gents I would think.
Are the names of the two ladies Milfy and CMT and the monger who flipped on those concerned. Back channel of course but for those of us who use both providers and depend on them and guys it would help to know so we don't make a mistake and contact any of the three for services or information. Hope to hear from you back channel if you wish to do a public service.
One hell of a way to Retire.
Hope this is allowed.
Rest assure with big titles come big responsibility. I am happy to say that the ladies from AMB and DI are not the same and no shape affiliated except using common posting platforms.
Only I, face my storm alone. Nothing nor anyone is to blame. One monger and Two provider references were used as a form of references (not able to post names due to rules on forum). That clearly failed. In my 10 years This is my first and only issue. I'm not the only lady or the last lady to have a charge. Just a few months shy of my retirement LEO got who they wanted. All ladies are not charged or harmed. No drugs were found. And no clients were compromised.
Be safe and don't depend on refeneces. Do your homework is all I can say. If you have to use a refenece make sure its someone in the hobby you trust and know well.
Through the years, Indiana has treated me well. I have no complaints nor will I participate with LEO. My attorney is handling all issues going forward. It has been good Indiana. Be safe out there.
Farwell,
C38.
I agree with you Illap and have recanted my earlier misinformation
[QUOTE=Ilapp;3846907]I know you mean well, and I was a proponent of getting as much information out quickly as possible and facilitated through others since I'm on moderation apparently forever and cannot put up what information I had which was almost immediate by the way and have it aired in a timely fashion to do any good. I have to say though that it would be best if you could verify your information or have it correct before you put it out there, dissemination of incorrect information creates an aura of paranoia and confusion, which may very well be one of the intents of the lovely Brotherhood causing all of our strife. Some of your information was incorrect unless sort of tarnished reputation or reliability of some people that didn't deserve it. Let's also take a quick breath and remember, that unless You Were Somehow connected to the business end of this business, that the crime is a misdemeanor and there are a number of limitations that can make an arrest for a misdemeanor occur, and that the parameters of those limitations makes the likelihood of anyone not caught in mid Act both unlikely to happen and hardly worth the effort it would require.[/QUOTE]I apologize to those involved but would respectfully encourage those who are still on other sites using the lady as a vouch be careful in doing so. Our local constables have a way of overseeing people with issues and have since I have been in this for over two decades. I know who informed me but will not put that out in public although two have already come forward and posted. I am sorry what happened to C38 happened and that is why I asked for verification of who was involved. I did jump the gun but with good intentions. No lady or guy should have to worry about a loose cannon / cannons compromising either the ladies or the men. They should be known so that both sides never contact them for references or have to worry about being compromised themselves. No matter what is thought of me running into a rogue male or female in this is not where any of us should want to go. Again my apologies for putting DI into this My error but again I would encourage C38 to take the vouch off her ladies she works with and have them use her or any other provider BChannel after what happened It would server her and the ladies who use her as a vouch well to do so. JMO Thanks for the scolding it was deserved but meant well. My apologies again to DI and to the forum. Flipping is as disgusting as rolling over on the ladies and gents who depend on good intel. Have a good day.
The Police Used Deception
[QUOTE=Bwetfan;3847876]Screw the rules. If we have providers or well known mongers giving references for cops, they should be called out and in the least should explain themselves. Even if they were fooled, it would be useful to know what the fuzz did to fool them.[/QUOTE]I suppose it must be repeated a thousand more times. The police, especially vice, will lie and deceive to catch you-- its their job.
See [URL]https://youtu.be/omJh8v4D6WU[/URL].
Its possible that Milfy was referenced by the monger (now law enforcement) who flipped. Or its possible that the police were posing as Milfy (or another provider). And of they lied to Candace to deceived her.
The point is they will become whoever and say whatever to advance their cause which is finding and catching clients and service providers. Make sure every device you use is secured by a strong password. Every time you access a hobby related site and your hobby email, you should be reentering your credentials. When you go to visit a someone, make sure your devices require your password by powering them off, or resetting them, etc. If the police confiscate the electronic device, they have nothing unless you give them the key to it. You have the right to remain silent, and that includes being silent about your password (s) and credentials to sites, email, etc.
They can't promise you anything like "it will go better for you if you cooperate with us" or "we'll let you off if you help us get x". If they say this, they are lying. The prosecutor makes that call. Not the field officers.
Its right there in the rights: "ANYTHING you say or do will be used against you. ".
