General Reports

I wish you were right about there not being enough wealthy mongers to afford all these girls habits but there are or we wouldn't be seeing these outrageous rose donation requests. In my mind all these ladies should be getting constant hotel evictions for no pay. There doesn't seem to be an increase in that.

My thoughts were that mongers are getting hit hard in rent / insurance / vehicles / food and no one could afford these insane mark ups. Enough mongers make enough money to afford these giant bouquets of roses. I doubt us whining about them paying that much is going to shame them into spending less. Welcome to supply and demand. If it makes you feel better, I ain't happy with it.

[QUOTE=WearyJohn;7337105]There can't be enough wealthy mongers out there to keep all these girls asking these crazy 240 roses and 320 roses for an h fulfilled with their weekly motel costs and their party favors. Plus whatever else they buy to live for a week. There would have to be a lot of rich guys doing this to support all these high prices. IDK what they are doing, but I don't even contact the ones listing those silly approaching Vegas prices. I've talked one down from 180 to 160 and I've just started haggling with them. I used to never haggle an escort, but I'm not going above 160 roses for a hh and 160 is if they are pretty hot, should be 150 max. I gave 250 roses once for an h, but that was a mistake. I shouldn't have done it. I'm not going past 160 hh for hot on a hh and 200 for h, maybe 220 if they are my kind of girl. I'll go without or risk going on tinder or something. We need to start giving them more sob stories about how hard it is for us johns to survive in this economy too. Most of them raise the rates and they are just making a party favor distributor rich fast. Some of these places where there are multiple girls renting rooms, I think the party favor distributors just hang out around there and wait for the next one to need. These girls ask for more rose dono and they just use more party favors. Their habit just gets worse. It's for their own good that they don't get so many roses for most of them to be honest.

They are getting out of control with these rose donos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheBigCat;7337628]I wish you were right about there not being enough wealthy mongers to afford all these girls habits but there are or we wouldn't be seeing these outrageous rose donation requests. In my mind all these ladies should be getting constant hotel evictions for no pay. There doesn't seem to be an increase in that.

My thoughts were that mongers are getting hit hard in rent / insurance / vehicles / food and no one could afford these insane mark ups. Enough mongers make enough money to afford these giant bouquets of roses. I doubt us whining about them paying that much is going to shame them into spending less. Welcome to supply and demand. If it makes you feel better, I ain't happy with it.[/QUOTE]If it's 160 qv and BBJ"is not offered and everything is covered LOL who the hell you think you are? A why would I pay you, why would anyone expect me to pay $160 QV for absolutely nothing.

For those who are financially supporting these delusional girls drug habits, we need to reevaluate this dynamic. A put them in the place because If they were truly exceptional, they wouldn't need to be prostitutes.

I reiterate: if we change our approach, the price will drop. These girls are delusional and who ever told them they were special told the a BOLD FACE lie!

Both you guys hit it on the head. There has to be too many nubes or simps running around Gotham these days, because I can't believe any provider offering so little, could or would command such a high price for so little offered. The only explanation is "the marketplace". If there are enough fools ponying up that kind of dough-ray-me for subpar service, the girls will hold to their demanding fees. If business takes a nosedive, what other choice will they have other than to lower their fees or find another line of work? And let's face it, the whole reason they are in this line of work is because they suck (not in a good way) at everything else they've tried. If the fee is too high, politely say no thank you, and move on to one who doesn't suffer from GPS.

[QUOTE=NjCockzMen;7355723]If it's 160 qv and BBJ"is not offered and everything is covered LOL who the hell you think you are? A why would I pay you, why would anyone expect me to pay $160 QV for absolutely nothing.

For those who are financially supporting these delusional girls drug habits, we need to reevaluate this dynamic. A put them in the place because If they were truly exceptional, they wouldn't need to be prostitutes.

I reiterate: if we change our approach, the price will drop. These girls are delusional and who ever told them they were special told the a BOLD FACE lie![/QUOTE]

I am all for being polite to anyone who respects us but if they are over the 100/150/200 rose line (maybe add a small percent increase if I am slipping below inflation) at the bed bug inn, have an obvious drug addiction, so fat and lazy you can only get halfway in, or any other number of short comings then why not get adult them? Maybe they need someone to tell them they are not special. Maybe no one has told them before. Just keep it honest. Why would we hand over so many garden roses for a subpar experience?

I do have to admit I only had one maybe 2 subpar experiences in Ocala but I have had a high number of providers get rejected from either high roses requests or trying to establish silly rules or conditions.

For now I just go to Jax. BTW providers are getting desperate in Jax and in the past week I have seen providers drop down on rose requests. Other economic indicators I look at show consumer spending is grinding to a halt. If you can maintain your income during the upcoming economic storm it might be great future for the hobby.

[QUOTE=SpecialOne8;7356231]Both you guys hit it on the head. There has to be too many nubes or simps running around Gotham these days, because I can't believe any provider offering so little, could or would command such a high price for so little offered. The only explanation is "the marketplace". If there are enough fools ponying up that kind of dough-ray-me for subpar service, the girls will hold to their demanding fees. If business takes a nosedive, what other choice will they have other than to lower their fees or find another line of work? And let's face it, the whole reason they are in this line of work is because they suck (not in a good way) at everything else they've tried. If the fee is too high, politely say no thank you, and move on to one who doesn't suffer from GPS.[/QUOTE]

BC, while you have a point, it is not necessarily as sharp as you might think.

Perhaps it's just me, but first-off, I don't do roughneck women who look like their best days are LONG behind them, Flipping the middle finger in one or more of their profile pics, covered head-to-toe in tats, hanging out at no-tel motels with last week's laundry all over the floor and the wafting smell of Mother Nature lingering in the room. I do my homework and that involves "qualifying" Them, not me sending personal info on who I am. I make my expectations clear on the phone, NOT in texts, and only then do we discuss the gift I am willing to provide for said-expectations. If we can't come to an agreement on what size gift I will be providing her (because she is suffering from GPS) I say sayonara and move on to the next. No need to get uppity. Just tell her she's not all that and a bag of chips for what she is providing. Simple. She hears that from enough hobbyists in the area, she will get the message and either 1) come to grips with what the market truly WILL bear, 2) she will move on to what she thinks will be greener pastures or 3) she will abandon her current chosen profession.

The problem is not being polite, the problem is as I stated in my prior post in this thread. The problem with some of these gals suffering from GPS are the simps and White Knight wanabes who pony up whatever a girl demands. That my brother, is the white elephant in the room.

SO-8.

[QUOTE=TheBigCat;7356655]I am all for being polite to anyone who respects us but if they are over the 100/150/200 rose line (maybe add a small percent increase if I am slipping below inflation) at the bed bug inn, have an obvious drug addiction, so fat and lazy you can only get halfway in, or any other number of short comings then why not get adult them? Maybe they need someone to tell them they are not special. Maybe no one has told them before. Just keep it honest. Why would we hand over so many garden roses for a subpar experience?

I do have to admit I only had one maybe 2 subpar experiences in Ocala but I have had a high number of providers get rejected from either high roses requests or trying to establish silly rules or conditions.

For now I just go to Jax. BTW providers are getting desperate in Jax and in the past week I have seen providers drop down on rose requests. Other economic indicators I look at show consumer spending is grinding to a halt. If you can maintain your income during the upcoming economic storm it might be great future for the hobby.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone had any success with this website? Bodyrubsmap dot com.

I notice that most (almost all) have out of state area codes so immediately I'm thinking scam.

Why does everyone focus on HH and HR costs? Now for me I almost always go with a QV. And my reasons are simple, 1) if the provider is good I will likely finish in the 15 mins and if she's not good then I likely want to be gone in the 15 mins anyway. 2) most providers are not big clock watchers, if I go 20 mins I have never had one ask for more tokens. 3) on the one occasion that I had a provider rushing me and even reminding me that a qv was 15 mins I simply got dressed and left and never called her again (reviewed oh so many years ago).

Now if you insist on HH or HR dates don't be shocked by the higher costs. Providers can make more $$ doing QVs than they do hh or hr dates. Examples qv-100 hh-160 Hr-200 if she does 3 qvs in 1 hour she makes 300 tokens.

Let's end the GPS and stop spending coin on long duration dates when most of us are in and out within a qv time frame.

[QUOTE=VeryHorny;7373116]Why does everyone focus on HH and HR costs? Now for me I almost always go with a QV. And my reasons are simple, 1) if the provider is good I will likely finish in the 15 mins and if she's not good then I likely want to be gone in the 15 mins anyway. 2) most providers are not big clock watchers, if I go 20 mins I have never had one ask for more tokens. 3) on the one occasion that I had a provider rushing me and even reminding me that a qv was 15 mins I simply got dressed and left and never called her again (reviewed oh so many years ago).

Now if you insist on HH or HR dates don't be shocked by the higher costs. Providers can make more $$ doing QVs than they do hh or hr dates. Examples qv-100 hh-160 Hr-200 if she does 3 qvs in 1 hour she makes 300 tokens.

Let's end the GPS and stop spending coin on long duration dates when most of us are in and out within a qv time frame.[/QUOTE]Your last sentence is an excellent idea!

[QUOTE=VeryHorny;7373116]Why does everyone focus on HH and HR costs? Now for me I almost always go with a QV. And my reasons are simple, 1) if the provider is good I will likely finish in the 15 mins and if she's not good then I likely want to be gone in the 15 mins anyway. 2) most providers are not big clock watchers, if I go 20 mins I have never had one ask for more tokens. 3) on the one occasion that I had a provider rushing me and even reminding me that a qv was 15 mins I simply got dressed and left and never called her again (reviewed oh so many years ago).

Now if you insist on HH or HR dates don't be shocked by the higher costs. Providers can make more $$ doing QVs than they do hh or hr dates. Examples qv-100 hh-160 Hr-200 if she does 3 qvs in 1 hour she makes 300 tokens.

Let's end the GPS and stop spending coin on long duration dates when most of us are in and out within a qv time frame.[/QUOTE]Once upon a time there was an unwritten agreement that a full hour session meant multiple pops. You literally came as many times as you could within the sixty minute session and the session actually lasted sixty minutes. I've seen multiple providers like this but they've all been over a decade ago.

Unfortunately times have changed. And you're 100% correct. No matter how much time you pay for she's typically getting dressed and saying goodbye before the cum dries. That's a lesson I had to learn the hard way.

A lot of these so called "escorts" nowadays are nothing more than streetwalkers with laptops and should be treated as such with the absolute minimum donation offered.

The consensus seems to be that Ocala's offerings leave much to be desired.

Here's a question. If you were going to take a short local vacation for mongering purposes, what city would you go to (within a 2-3 hour drive of Ocala).

I'm thinking of driving somewhere relatively local, get a hotel room for a couple of nights, and have a session or two.

Where would you go? Tampa? Orlando? Jacksonville? Daytona Beach? Someplace else?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tasty101;7375238]The consensus seems to be that Ocala's offerings leave much to be desired.

Here's a question. If you were going to take a short local vacation for mongering purposes, what city would you go to (within a 2-3 hour drive of Ocala).

I'm thinking of driving somewhere relatively local, get a hotel room for a couple of nights, and have a session or two.

Where would you go? Tampa? Orlando? Jacksonville? Daytona Beach? Someplace else?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Depending on budget I always had most fun in Fort Lauderdale but that's expensive and is a little more of a drive about 4 hours last time I drove.

[QUOTE=Mikaeles;7376617]Depending on budget I always had most fun in Fort Lauderdale but that's expensive and is a little more of a drive about 4 hours last time I drove.[/QUOTE]Tampa, the forum says it all. Not much for AMPs but strip clubs and escorts and even SW seem great.

[QUOTE=MisterPickles;7373653]Once upon a time there was an unwritten agreement that a full hour session meant multiple pops. You literally came as many times as you could within the sixty minute session and the session actually lasted sixty minutes. I've seen multiple providers like this but they've all been over a decade ago.

Unfortunately times have changed. And you're 100% correct. No matter how much time you pay for she's typically getting dressed and saying goodbye before the cum dries. That's a lesson I had to learn the hard way.

A lot of these so called "escorts" nowadays are nothing more than streetwalkers with laptops and should be treated as such with the absolute minimum donation offered.[/QUOTE]I would say cheap smartphones with screen usually broken.

So many are now asking for a deposit, don't these gals know that 1) I don't know you or trust you so why should I give you a deposit with hope you will actually be where you claim? 2) if you are asking for a deposit, what are you offering me to prove you will be where you claim? 3) providers with reasonable donations and no deposit requests usually make more coin. And if they provid good service they may actually get a tip from generous mongers.

I know a few providers that to reduce costs have rented a house. This eliminates the high No-tell costs and allows the providers to give good service and a safe atmosphere.

Well, after 2 months or so without access from different ISPs, access locations, and a VpN, I guess it took Foxfire to do the trick.

Apparently Chrome and MS have banned this web address in their servers.

Cliff notes. Anything good I've missed?

Happy mongering.

JAFO.

[QUOTE=Jafo1970;7398940]Well, after 2 months or so without access from different ISPs, access locations, and a VpN, I guess it took Foxfire to do the trick.

Apparently Chrome and MS have banned this web address in their servers.

Cliff notes. Anything good I've missed?

Happy mongering.

JAFO.[/QUOTE]Odd. I am on chrome and only lost access for about 10 days. I know someone that still can't access this site.