Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3852173]There is no doubt SA itself fears what could happen to it under FOSTA. Look at the video on the site, and all the posts in response. I recommend people reporting escorts, as the site is very clear that they violate its ToS. This won't hurt me at all, I am not interested in escorts but real SBs. It will thin out the ranks and make it easier to find what I am looking for. There may be replacements for BP and CL, but right now, no place offers what SA does. I hope that escorting / mongering doesn't ruin it for those of us who are serious about this post-modern relationship, the arrangement. They have existed for millenia, but SA just facilitated the parties finding each other.[/QUOTE]I'm somewhat new to the SB scene, SA wasn't really around before my hiatus. So please explain what the difference is between a SB and an escort or for that matter a mistress. All of them are what our society would call prostitutes, because all of them except money for sexual favors. To me there is no difference from a streetwalker, escort, SB or mistress it's just how they advertise for clients, the level and type of service they provide. From what I have heard from other friends and read about there are plenty of SB's that see multiple SD's in a week and fuck for $ whenever they are available.

Seems to me your arrangement with a SB is just what I would call spending time with a higher class escort who doesn't watch clock or an escort that I have a developed, over time, a special relationship with.

Silverbikini007.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/257739c0-8a45-42dd-ab07-34509adecfed[/URL]

And.

Stevieann71.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/89129c41-c159-4c41-8ce4-29ee920bfe4d[/URL]

As always I have some travel info!

Silverbikini007.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/257739c0-8a45-42dd-ab07-34509adecfed[/URL]

And.

Stevieann71.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/89129c41-c159-4c41-8ce4-29ee920bfe4d[/URL]

As always I have some travel info!

[QUOTE=GlueCzar;3855510]

As always I have some travel info![/QUOTE]And I've benefited from that travel info!! For seniors, I have info as well. For the most part, it's limited to Dallas / Fort Worth (there's an amazingly gorgeous, mixed race, ex NFL cheerleader, who is a VERY dirty girl if anyone is traveling there) and Palm Beach and Broward counties in FL. I tend towards older, more mature ladies, but the blonde hair and big fake tits look supersedes about everything else. When I can find the two in one package, I should just walk in the door, throw my wallet at them, and leave. I'm THAT smitten.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3852173]There is no doubt SA itself fears what could happen to it under FOSTA. Look at the video on the site, and all the posts in response. I recommend people reporting escorts, as the site is very clear that they violate its ToS. This won't hurt me at all, I am not interested in escorts but real SBs. It will thin out the ranks and make it easier to find what I am looking for. There may be replacements for BP and CL, but right now, no place offers what SA does. I hope that escorting / mongering doesn't ruin it for those of us who are serious about this post-modern relationship, the arrangement. They have existed for millenia, but SA just facilitated the parties finding each other.[/QUOTE]It HAS happened for millenia, mistresses, sugar babies, etc. I love the arrangement actually. It's EXACTLY what I want at this stage in the game of life. I just recently put my first on on regular retainer. We get together about once a week, do something fun like a local dive, concert, dinner, etc, then go back to my place and destroy one another's genitalia until the wee hours of the morning. Neither of us needs to call or text the other the next day, no one is worried about anyone working late, or schtuping other people, or paying bills together, or any of the other entanglements of a full time relationship. If I don't hear from her for a few days or a week, so be it and vice versa. So for me at least, it's all the benefits of a SO with none of the responsibilities (well, there is that monthly paypal transaction). Since we negotiated our relationship on the front end, boundaries and expectations were fully discussed and agreed upon. At some point I'm sure that someone will want more, or someone will want less, and we know that going in. When that happens, there will be no surprises. Until then though, I have an intelligent, well read woman on my arm who can carry the conversation when I need / want that, and a beautiful 6' in heels brunette who begs me to ravish her when I need / want that. If it ain't broke. . . .

[QUOTE=PowerTool;3855159]I'm somewhat new to the SB scene, SA wasn't really around before my hiatus. So please explain what the difference is between a SB and an escort or for that matter a mistress. All of them are what our society would call prostitutes, because all of them except money for sexual favors. To me there is no difference from a streetwalker, escort, SB or mistress it's just how they advertise for clients, the level and type of service they provide. From what I have heard from other friends and read about there are plenty of SB's that see multiple SD's in a week and fuck for $ whenever they are available.

Seems to me your arrangement with a SB is just what I would call spending time with a higher class escort who doesn't watch clock or an escort that I have a developed, over time, a special relationship with.[/QUOTE]What you said is true, however True SB will have sex without condom, and others (almost all) will require a condom, that is the big different to me.

[QUOTE=PowerTool;3855159]I'm somewhat new to the SB scene, SA wasn't really around before my hiatus. So please explain what the difference is between a SB and an escort or for that matter a mistress. All of them are what our society would call prostitutes, because all of them except money for sexual favors. To me there is no difference from a streetwalker, escort, SB or mistress it's just how they advertise for clients, the level and type of service they provide. From what I have heard from other friends and read about there are plenty of SB's that see multiple SD's in a week and fuck for $ whenever they are available.

Seems to me your arrangement with a SB is just what I would call spending time with a higher class escort who doesn't watch clock or an escort that I have a developed, over time, a special relationship with.[/QUOTE]There's many similarities but also a ton of differences. And everything in between. The menu is vast on there, from addicts / street walkers with a cell phone; Pro's providers and strippers, sugar babies that see a few guys to the ones that are exclusive to Mary Poppins who wants money to grace you with her presence.

I can't stand clock watchers so I tend to stick to the sugar babies.

I know a brunette sugar baby who is interested in doing a back to back with two guys. She's safe and reasonable. If interested PM me.

[QUOTE=WreckItRight;3864262]I know a brunette sugar baby who is interested in doing a back to back with two guys. She's safe and reasonable. If interested PM me.[/QUOTE]If you Pm me and interest is there include your email or some form of contact and Ill send pics.

Guys. From what I am seeing there is a lot available out there. That agree to my arrangement terms. Don't pay any attention to what they list. Of all the goody two shoes I have messaged, only one has came back with a blunt 'not interested'. And I have messaged a lot. For awhile I avoided the findom girls but I think it doesn't take long for them to realize what they want is going to be different than what they get. Don't ask them what they are after, make your proposal after feeling them out for being up to your taste- and do it tactfully. Some of those girls use the word platonic incredibly loosely. If they aren't interested they won't reply. But many do after a few days or weeks-my guess is because their visions of dollar signs dancing in their head slowly fades away. LOL!

Og.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9158ceb2-6ef2-4c36-884a-d4c8093ddaf1[/URL]

'SmokeGoodLoud, her profile says she's 28, turns out she's 18. She traveled here for a fair rate, she was a good time, says she's willing to travel here often.

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;3856628]It HAS happened for millenia, mistresses, sugar babies, etc. I love the arrangement actually. It's EXACTLY what I want at this stage in the game of life. I just recently put my first on on regular retainer. We get together about once a week, do something fun like a local dive, concert, dinner, etc, then go back to my place and destroy one another's genitalia until the wee hours of the morning. Neither of us needs to call or text the other the next day, no one is worried about anyone working late, or schtuping other people, or paying bills together, or any of the other entanglements of a full time relationship. If I don't hear from her for a few days or a week, so be it and vice versa. So for me at least, it's all the benefits of a SO with none of the responsibilities (well, there is that monthly paypal transaction). Since we negotiated our relationship on the front end, boundaries and expectations were fully discussed and agreed upon. At some point I'm sure that someone will want more, or someone will want less, and we know that going in. When that happens, there will be no surprises. Until then though, I have an intelligent, well read woman on my arm who can carry the conversation when I need / want that, and a beautiful 6' in heels brunette who begs me to ravish her when I need / want that. If it ain't broke. . . .[/QUOTE]Good post EC, I very much like the SB arrangement. I do love variety but there is something to be said about being comfortable with someone your having sex with. I have had a few SB, the one I have now has been with me for 18 months and I couldn't ask for a better arrangement.

P.S., I don't pay them to stay, I pay them to leave.

BG,

I like what I'm reading in here, but wanted to get a quick idea of what people are usually spending on this side of the hobby. SA is $90 a month, unless you buy a few months at a time, and then can anyone share their average SB maintenance outlay? I'm not really hobbying all that much anymore, but I like the idea of a more casual encounter, which these SBs seem to be open to providing, but it feels like I may end up spending more than I would if I just went straight escort.

[QUOTE=Dracos;3883814]I like what I'm reading in here, but wanted to get a quick idea of what people are usually spending on this side of the hobby. SA is $90 a month, unless you buy a few months at a time, and then can anyone share their average SB maintenance outlay? I'm not really hobbying all that much anymore, but I like the idea of a more casual encounter, which these SBs seem to be open to providing, but it feels like I may end up spending more than I would if I just went straight escort.[/QUOTE]You'll be spending a lot more time for sure. It's like a part time job.

Yep 90 a month. I've been on and off 3 times for premium membership. I've had 5 separate babies. I've met at least 3 others in meets. For me it has been a totally different experience than going to a provider. I've had generally terrific sex and after first time usually bare. I've gone from 20 year olds upto 40 year olds. Different experience each time. I'm older and for a 60 year old to be fucking a 20 year old- yep it's probably worth it. Saying that it isn't cheap. I try and stick at 250 max. I've done 200 to 300 (300 only first time). There is no time limit here. It's much more like a date. Often we've had lunch and usually great conversation. I look for intelligence and broke college girls are a good bet. Several times girls have had me popping twice and have made an effort to do it. I've spent probably 2 grand on the experience so far over several months It's addictive and you get better at it with experience. Looking is part of the fun. Totally your choice. Numenor.

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3885192]You'll be spending a lot more time for sure. It's like a part time job.[/QUOTE]