Massage Parlor Reports

I agree, it do take longer for me as I get older or more stamina. I also asked about AA and was told something similar.

[QUOTE=JuanPrimo; 1435146]I slightly disagree about the over 50 comment. The older I get, the longer it takes me to get off. It's a young guy's problem that they pop fast, but they can get two pops off in an hour when I work like hell to get one.

I asked a white girl about her "no AA" rule. According to her, blacks are too pushy and demanding. By the way, she said that Mexicans are too "amorous", meaning lovey-dovey. That's just one girl's opinion.[/QUOTE]

Looks like Paradise had a fire or something. Not the usual City or Cook County closing. Just a board over one of the windows and a "remodeling" sign on the window.

Too bad. I was starting to like them a lot.

[QUOTE=LongRanger99; 1435020]Okay: I think you just explained one of the reasons or if not the main reason why some providers don't see African Americans. Too much work to get their money / donation.

30 minutes before you pop your cork, the poor womam must have been tired as hell.

She would probably prefer if a guy poped his cork in 10 minutes or less. In this buisness / society there is no love here, the providers just want to make their money / donation and they want to make their money / donation as easily and as quickly as possible. Some providers even go so much as to say no one under 50. Why? Because they feel they can get a 50 year old to pop his cork in 5 minutes or less. Being 50 does not necessarily mean this is true but we all know that as age comes stamana goes.[/QUOTE]The brothas are too damn beaucoup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQsozpZUSw&feature=related

[QUOTE=Nicky Forza; 1434621]Being a provider can be a risky undertaking, no matter what race of people you're dealing with. It seems to me that nut cases and those who want to do harm can be found among all races. Just ask people like Ted Bundy and the Chinese guy who stuck up those massage places near Chinatown. The girls can never know for sure what they're dealing with when they take on a new customer, and it's foolish to have a sense of safety simply because the customer is not a black person.

That being said, there is possibly be one legitimate reason for being wary of black guys. They have a reputation for having those supersized wands that could potentially do career threatening damage, especially to small & tight Asians.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JuanPrimo; 1435146]I slightly disagree about the over 50 comment. The older I get, the longer it takes me to get off. It's a young guy's problem that they pop fast, but they can get two pops off in an hour when I work like hell to get one.

I asked a white girl about her "no AA" rule. According to her, blacks are too pushy and demanding. By the way, she said that Mexicans are too "amorous", meaning lovey-dovey. That's just one girl's opinion.[/QUOTE]Being an African-American myself this is obviously a sensitive issue. Personally, I have yet to experience any discrimination in any of my AMP / LMP visits. Nicky, I understand what you're saying because given the recent raids and Chinatown robberies I'm sure lots of places are being extra cautious these days. And I don't go to these places expecting FS; only extras I'd be wanting is a HJ and a little kissing / hugging. And Juan, I've never been pushy; in my visits I have always treated the ladies with respect and dignity. The times I've been shut out of extras I didn't make an issue; I accepted it and moved on.

The point I'm trying to make is that IMHO the only color that most providers are concerned about is green, in which how much of a tip they're going to get. I've found that if you treat them with respect they'll return the favor. BTW, I'm 40, and not one provider that I've seen has ever brought up my skin color. This is the 21st Century now and though I know there's still racism out here in the world, I'd hope that most people would look past the color of a person and rather judge them on their attitude / behavior.

And yes, I can do two pops in a hour if need be (LOL)!

My understanding was the Archer heist was done by an Asian.

[QUOTE=LongRanger99;1434196]Have a friend that is African American and he has told me about some issues that he has ran into. He states that he has been to some white providers and when he shows up they will not let him in. States other times he will get service from white provider and when the provider feels safe around him they will let him return. It appears a lot of providers are afraid of young african american males. Any one of any race can act up or do some law less shit so not sure why african american males get singled out. The disturbing thing is that I see african american providers say no african american males: I am yet to see any other race of provider say they do not service their own race.[/QUOTE]Stereotypes have a quiet way of doing lots of harm. If only people would stop being so damn prejudiced. Get to know the client before you pass judgment. As I said in my last post I'm a 40-yr old African-American. Who happens to have a bachelor's degree from the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign) and makes a successful living with the CTA. I don't listen to rap or dress like a punk, and I always talk educated because that's how I feel comfortable.

LR you are right on: there are idiots across all races, but sadly with us AAs it takes only a few bad apples to spoil the whole barrel. Bottom line to these providers that do discriminate: get to know the person first. Regardless of race. And then if he treats you like a jerk, then you've got the right to deny him service. But prejudice really does leave a bad taste for all involved.

Okay, I'm finished with my social commentary here. Let's get back to doing what we do best here. Share monger tips and recommendations!

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955;1435447]My understanding was the Archer heist was done by an Asian.[/QUOTE]That's what I heard too.

I believe they were planning to move into the florist space next door anyway. Perhaps they will do so and the space won't be so cramped.

[QUOTE=Gfxchi; 1435353]Looks like Paradise had a fire or something. Not the usual City or Cook County closing. Just a board over one of the windows and a "remodeling" sign on the window.

Too bad. I was starting to like them a lot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OPIllini; 1435451]Stereotypes have a quiet way of doing lots of harm. If only people would stop being so damn prejudiced. Get to know the client before you pass judgment. As I said in my last post I'm a 40-yr old African-American. Who happens to have a bachelor's degree from the University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign) and makes a successful living with the CTA. I don't listen to rap or dress like a punk, and I always talk educated because that's how I feel comfortable.

LR you are right on: there are idiots across all races, but sadly with us AAs it takes only a few bad apples to spoil the whole barrel. Bottom line to these providers that do discriminate: get to know the person first. Regardless of race. And then if he treats you like a jerk, then you've got the right to deny him service. But prejudice really does leave a bad taste for all involved.

Okay, I'm finished with my social commentary here. Let's get back to doing what we do best here. Share monger tips and recommendations![/QUOTE]Sad but true. Sometimes it's not the girl who"s bigoted. Sometimes her boyfriend doesn't want her doing black guys. Happens in porn too.

[QUOTE=Fredspy;1435581]I believe they were planning to move into the florist space next door anyway. Perhaps they will do so and the space won't be so cramped.[/QUOTE]Ah, that would be nice. Will report back when I find out more.

I have looked back at a few of my fav places, then I realized that during the time I became a monger, that some places were opening and then 2 years later that same place is closed. I stay in contact with the providers far more than I remember were I met them. This does not seem to be a very smart business model. I have talked to one or two owners of the spa, and they told me how much they had to invest to fix it up. Sure business can do very well depending on where your located but two years, then close is crazy. The only person that makes out is the person renting the space because they now have a fully fixed up space for the next person to rent. Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=OngBak15;1436383]I have looked back at a few of my fav places, then I realized that during the time I became a monger, that some places were opening and then 2 years later that same place is closed. I stay in contact with the providers far more than I remember were I met them. This does not seem to be a very smart business model. I have talked to one or two owners of the spa, and they told me how much they had to invest to fix it up. Sure business can do very well depending on where your located but two years, then close is crazy. The only person that makes out is the person renting the space because they now have a fully fixed up space for the next person to rent. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I'm more curious to know whether the owners knew of what was happening in their businesses. Would their businesses have lasted the 2 years operating legitimately just providing massages and no happy endings. What happens to all these women who lose their place of employment. I know they must go and search in another mp but there is only so many in the city. Some of these places are closed due to complaining from neighbors so I doubt someone else would want to get in to the space without first finding out why it got shut down. I saw one woman who provided a good massage in her own place she had a room all set up with a table oils and also provided facials among other skin treatments. But this woman also had another job working at a bar. I guess what I'm saying is getting into the business is some very risky shit and competition is fierce with any woman setting up in their own apt. If you don't give the customer what he's looking for your probably not going to make it without a side job. Unless some of these AMP s have clients frequently coming in they aren't going to be open a long time. I know when I need an actual massage I have my place but I probably go once a month because the only other thing ill get there is a pair of blue balls hence the once a month visit if I have any back pain or sore muscles if not I don't go back in a long time.

Good luck to our remaining places of happiness and to all mongers stay safe

[QUOTE=Casper27; 1436715]I'm more curious to know whether the owners knew of what was happening in their businesses. Would their businesses have lasted the 2 years operating legitimately just providing massages and no happy endings. What happens to all these women who lose their place of employment. I know they must go and search in another mp but there is only so many in the city. Some of these places are closed due to complaining from neighbors so I doubt someone else would want to get in to the space without first finding out why it got shut down. I saw one woman who provided a good massage in her own place she had a room all set up with a table oils and also provided facials among other skin treatments. But this woman also had another job working at a bar. I guess what I'm saying is getting into the business is some very risky shit and competition is fierce with any woman setting up in their own apt. If you don't give the customer what he's looking for your probably not going to make it without a side job. Unless some of these AMP s have clients frequently coming in they aren't going to be open a long time. I know when I need an actual massage I have my place but I probably go once a month because the only other thing ill get there is a pair of blue balls hence the once a month visit if I have any back pain or sore muscles if not I don't go back in a long time.

Good luck to our remaining places of happiness and to all mongers stay safe[/QUOTE]It does not really matter if the owners know or not know what is going on. Hiring a non-licensced tech is illegal if she is fucking clients or playing checkers with them. Just as illegal.

I talked to a spa girl who told me she burned through a 1000 COUNT condom package. That means she made $80K-100K. Her spa then made at least $20k off her efforts. Sure there are risks but major rewards too.

I just wanted to add a comment, some of this AMPs closed due to neighbors complains tha's true, but also all this AMPs that open are a TARGET to the leo because they know were they are located as soon as they open so is just a matter of time before LEO paid them a visit, first LEO send a couple undercover they get a few handshakes then the AMPs get busted is just a way of keeping LEO busy busting up all this AMPs, instead of going against the real criminals, looked this prostitution business is not going to end any time soon is here forever, they shall just legalized and get it over with. Stay safe treat the providers with respect is better for them to do the handshake then you helping your self doing it.

[QUOTE=OngBak15; 1436383]I have looked back at a few of my fav places, then I realized that during the time I became a monger, that some places were opening and then 2 years later that same place is closed. I stay in contact with the providers far more than I remember were I met them. This does not seem to be a very smart business model. I have talked to one or two owners of the spa, and they told me how much they had to invest to fix it up. Sure business can do very well depending on where your located but two years, then close is crazy. The only person that makes out is the person renting the space because they now have a fully fixed up space for the next person to rent. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1436731]It does not really matter if the owners know or not know what is going on. Hiring a non-licensced tech is illegal if she is fucking clients or playing checkers with them. Just as illegal.

I talked to a spa girl who told me she burned through a 1000 COUNT condom package. That means she made $80K-100K. Her spa then made at least $20k off her efforts. Sure there are risks but major rewards too.[/QUOTE]This is what I'm talking about would that place where she was at have made all that business if she were just providing the massages. I'm saying how much do the owners really care about how much it cost them to set up the business when they are the ones knowingly putting themselves at risk when they employ unlicensed people and sometimes turn a blind eye to what they are doing. It's all good till our uncle shuts the place down.