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[QUOTE=BigM1;5578709]Where is "Pure Relax" located at?[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but P.S. This is the spa off Euclid and Garden Grove Blvd in Garden Grove, under the honey umbrella.

Took a gamble on one of the spas I was curious about. Older provider only person there in fact. It was a good massage. Took the full 30 minutes. Lackluster HE. Was able to pull up her dress and popped out the boobs from the push up bra. They were a nice set a pair. From a 40+ year old. Totally real. $40 for massage and $40 for tip. Wouldn't repeat. They was a spa directly across the way. Wonder if its good.

Side note they use massage oil that smells. Went to grab tacos next door. Ordered and she was like damn you smell good. What are you wearing? Oh crap.

[QUOTE=OcHobby949;5578072]I can't find QZ in LF. Can you provide a little more info?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rubmaps.ch/erotic-massage-qz-day-spa-lake-forest-ca-14156[/URL]#rubmaps.

So I headed out today kinda debating, sex or great massage? I chose sex and headed to Tulip. Linda (a sure thing) was busy and she assigned me to Kelly / Kerry (ok senior moment, can't remember which). Miss K is a real stunner, Vietnamese, blonde hair and wearing a short dress. Wow!, I thought, jackpot. I booked 45 minutes for 50. Did the leg check and she declined touching, saying "Later". Weak AMP massage, no teasing. On the flip she wanted 60 for HJ and +100 to lose the dress. I countered with 50 for HJ and UTC access. We debated. She finally agreed but then she blocked the UTC. The HJ exhibited zero skill and after a few minutes I said, "I'm done" and left. I tipped her 40 for nothing; why? Because I'm a Nice Guy, of course. Bottom line on Tulip, if you want sex book Linda ahead of time otherwise don't bother.

I was irritated and unsatisfied so headed over to Bamboo. I've seen Andie, Mei, Toto and Jessica on Thursdays. Mindy knows I want to sample the whole Thursday lineup and assigned me to Ana (I actually think that's the entire Thursday group, please correct me if I'm wrong). What a nice person Ana is. Slim and pretty. Very friendly and really seems to care. Great massage and excellent tease. OTC access below the belt and UTC access above. HJ + A was well executed. She even hopped up on the table for a snuggle. Again, what a nice person. Treat her well. I gave her a premium tip. Bottom line on Bamboo, always a great massage. Andie and Ana are tied for #1 on total performance, Mei is a strong #2 and Toto excels in the extras department.

I need to find a reasonably priced sex AMP for when Bamboo doesn't completely fulfill what I sometimes desire. Suggestions are welcome.

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;5579409]So I headed out today kinda debating, sex or great massage? I chose sex and headed to Tulip. Linda (a sure thing) was busy and she assigned me to Kelly / Kerry (ok senior moment, can't remember which). Miss K is a real stunner, Vietnamese, blonde hair and wearing a short dress. Wow!, I thought, jackpot. I booked 45 minutes for 50. Did the leg check and she declined touching, saying "Later". Weak AMP massage, no teasing. On the flip she wanted 60 for HJ and +100 to lose the dress. I countered with 50 for HJ and UTC access. We debated. She finally agreed but then she blocked the UTC. The HJ exhibited zero skill and after a few minutes I said, "I'm done" and left. I tipped her 40 for nothing; why? Because I'm a Nice Guy, of course. Bottom line on Tulip, if you want sex book Linda ahead of time otherwise don't bother.

I was irritated and unsatisfied so headed over to Bamboo. I've seen Andie, Mei, Toto and Jessica on Thursdays. Mindy knows I want to sample the whole Thursday lineup and assigned me to Ana (I actually think that's the entire Thursday group, please correct me if I'm wrong). What a nice person Ana is. Slim and pretty. Very friendly and really seems to care. Great massage and excellent tease. OTC access below the belt and UTC access above. HJ + A was well executed. She even hopped up on the table for a snuggle. Again, what a nice person. Treat her well. I gave her a premium tip. Bottom line on Bamboo, always a great massage. Andie and Ana are tied for #1 on total performance, Mei is a strong #2 and Toto excels in the extras department.

I need to find a reasonably priced sex AMP for when Bamboo doesn't completely fulfill what I sometimes desire. Suggestions are welcome.[/QUOTE]Ckb Westminster. Tiffany. There's a new one that works on Sundays that I know of I haven't tried yet.

[QUOTE=SlickJJ;5579325]Took a gamble on one of the spas I was curious about. Older provider only person there in fact. It was a good massage. Took the full 30 minutes. Lackluster HE. Was able to pull up her dress and popped out the boobs from the push up bra. They were a nice set a pair. From a 40+ year old. Totally real. $40 for massage and $40 for tip. Wouldn't repeat. They was a spa directly across the way. Wonder if its good.

Side note they use massage oil that smells. Went to grab tacos next door. Ordered and she was like damn you smell good. What are you wearing? Oh crap.[/QUOTE]Try I massage.

[QUOTE=Slammer6008;5579467]Try I massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks Slammer! For sure I will.

I probably been to Bamboo least 10 times, always 1 hr since only $35. But how is 30 mins? 10 mins tease,10 mins HJ,10 min foot massage??

[QUOTE=Slammer6008;5579467]Try I massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Do you mean: 2445 W Chapman Ave #100, Orange, CA 92868.

Any details?

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;5579640]Thanks. Do you mean: 2445 W Chapman Ave #100, Orange, CA 92868.

Any details?[/QUOTE]Yummy yummy for my tummy!128077;.

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;5579640]Thanks. Do you mean: 2445 W Chapman Ave #100, Orange, CA 92868.

Any details?[/QUOTE]I didn't know we were allowed to post address but yep ask for Kelly.

[QUOTE=Slammer6008;5579652]Yummy yummy for my tummy!128077;.[/QUOTE]Share some details slammer! Feel free to PM me!

[QUOTE=OCRanger;5579566]I probably been to Bamboo least 10 times, always 1 hr since only $35. But how is 30 mins? 10 mins tease,10 mins HJ,10 min foot massage??[/QUOTE]Since they know you it can be whatever you want. Just tell her what you want. It can be a thirty minute HJ, if you can last that. Long. This is true most places but especially here at Bamboo. Always wanting to please.

[QUOTE=HeadorTail;5579952]Since they know you it can be whatever you want. Just tell her what you want. It can be a thirty minute HJ, if you can last that. Long. This is true most places but especially here at Bamboo. Always wanting to please.[/QUOTE]One of the two of my favorite words. The other is pleasure😄128077;.

[QUOTE=NutterHoeMan;5578577]Haven't seen any reports on 440, are they closed for good now? Heading back to OC this week. My typical are 6*. Brookhurst or Bolsa. Haven't seen and new reports form 6* but will drop some later this weekend.[/QUOTE]On a recent Sunday afternoon I stopped by Stars Therapy on Glassell.

There was a young Latino guy behind the counter. I asked if Angela or Ruby was working. He said no. He told the names of two girls whom I have never heard of associated with Stars Therapy so I asked if I can see the masseuse first.

He shook his head and said no. I tried to be charming friendly and polite: "Really I can't just see a little bit of what they look like?" Again he shook his head and said no.

Me in a playfully desperate plea: "Dude I can't just pay first without knowing what the girl looks like. Every where else the girls will at least stick their head out and say Hi."

Guess the young papasan doesn't like clean cut middle aged Asian guys or maybe business is good enough and he doesn't care for picky new clientle like myself.

So I left.

Headed south to 440 Fair. Parking lot looked about two thirds full. But upon closer inspection a lot of those cars looked like they have been parked there for a while. There was a dusty limo, a dusty touring bus, and several other vehicles all in need of a good wash.

I saw a few mongers walking briskly back to their cars so I figured it was safe to park and head in. I have waited enough hours in the Eco parking lot for Apple that yes I have a decent idea of what my fellow hobbyists look like.

I walk into the courtyard expecting the usual ladies standing by the various door ways but it was dead. The shop directly across the entrance had two girls standing at the counter but they were neither beckoning me over nor scantily clad.

So I turned left wandered through a few hallways and headed upstairs. Virtual ghost town. The doors to the shops looked open like you could just wander through but I didn't see or hear a soul.

I headed back down stairs to the two girls standing at the counter. I asked what happened. How come no one is open?

Average looking Asian chick in an unrevealing black business suit, the kind a hostess at a restaurant wears replied something about the police came and took away all their business licenses.

She said we open. You want massage. I asked if I can see the girl first? She said yes. Hostess girl escorts me down a hallway into a darkly lit room with a small sink and a massage bed and leaves.

On the opposite side of the sink is a larger mirror that covers most of the wall. But the room is so dark and my old eyes are still trying to adjust. I fumble around the walls and eventually find the dimmer switch and raise the brightness level.

I wash my hands in the sink and sit back down fully clothed on the bed and wait to see what the hostess has to offer.

Average looking hostess comes back with Cindy. Cindy is cute, probably Chinese, in her late 30's or 40's. Thin with a nice looking C or D rack from what I could tell from her non revealing white shirt and jeans.

Hostess ask if Cindy is ok? I nod yes and the hostess closes the door and disappears.

I quickly strip off my t-shirt and shorts and shove them on the counter above the sink.

Fully naked I asked Cindy how much for everything? She says 40 for half hour and 120 tip. I hand her the cash and she disappears also.

Cindy comes back still fully clothed and lowers the lights again.

Short non memorable massage.

She then asks me to flip over.

Cindy is still fully clothed. I lightly touch the side of her right boob and can feel her bra as she plays with my dick.

Cindy smiles and removes her top and pulls down her bra freeing her lovely full C cups.

I have been disappointed many times by padded and push up bras. But not this time. Not sure how old Cindy was but her Asian breasts felt soft and had a beautiful shape. I squeezed them and felt around for implants or signs of any surgical enhancements but could not find any.

Natural or not my dick has decided these are some magnificent boobs. I am rock hard. Cindy puts a cover on and begins the CBJ. It's actually pretty good. Cindy does a little ball sucking and her warm tongue and mouth around my ball sack gets me even harder.

Cindy is good as sensing dick hardness level and removes her jeans and panties. She is thin with no belly fat. She is not as shapely in terms of hips to waist ratio and I would normally prefer. I am guessing she probably has never had any children.

Asian chicks in her age group usually have wider hips if they have had kids.

But Cindy's magnificent breasts make up for waist to hip ratio and I position her into missionary. She let's me thrust full and deep without any resistance wrapping her legs around me. I come quickly in the bag.

Cindy says she works everyday? She slaps my butt as she walks me out. And asks me to come back to see her again.

Cindy 440 Fair assessment:

Looks 7.

Attitude 8.

Service 8.

Repeat? Yes.

40 house for hhr. 120 tip for covered FS.

Overall experience 7.

Anyone visit her before?

[URL]https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/248793[/URL]

So I've been hitting Oasis in SA pretty regular. Good massages, but the gals are a bit on the aged side. I am needing to try a different spot with hot staff and a good massage. Not looking for FS, thoughts and recommendations from the board are welcome. Thank you.

[QUOTE=SlickJJ;5579325]Took a gamble on one of the spas I was curious about. Older provider only person there in fact. It was a good massage. Took the full 30 minutes. Lackluster HE. Was able to pull up her dress and popped out the boobs from the push up bra. They were a nice set a pair. From a 40+ year old. Totally real. $40 for massage and $40 for tip. Wouldn't repeat. They was a spa directly across the way. Wonder if its good.

Side note they use massage oil that smells. Went to grab tacos next door. Ordered and she was like damn you smell good. What are you wearing? Oh crap.[/QUOTE]There's two island spas in Orange.

Went to Bamboo Thursday afternoon 1 pm. Placed was packed. Looked like a convention. Sat in the waiting room with another guy while I waited for Andy. I was taken back and ran into another hobbyist (tall guy) waiting for his stall. Got comfortable could hear massages on both sides of me going. To my right I could hear the fast rhythmic oily squishy sound of someone getting stroked. Andy was great as usual. Once she knows you, and you ask first. More access is there. YMMV!

[QUOTE=NoClue02;5580757]Anyone visit her before?

[URL]https://orangecounty.rubratings.com/248793[/URL][/QUOTE]Just looked up her code, no listings found?

What in the holy hell is going on with this?

[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]

There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.

[QUOTE=Jpkhckwrth;5582889]What in the holy hell is going on with this?

[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]

There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.[/QUOTE]No idea, and I am not going to find out, as I thought they were overpriced at $70/ hr when I used to go there years ago. Stopped going when all the talent they had left. The owner has lost it from what I can tell and I wonder who is even going there at those prices?

[QUOTE=Jpkhckwrth;5582889]What in the holy hell is going on with this?

[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]

There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.[/QUOTE]First of all, all franchisors are required to have a document called an FDD (franchise disclosure document). It discloses everything from how much investment you need to make, to what expectations you need to meet, to financials. They are all on file with the SEC. They have no such document (I searched the database). Second of all I own a high end franchise spa. They say you can buy a franchise with an investment of $98 k. There is absolutely no freaking way. Mine cost over $300 k just for construction and I do t have a huge location (8 rooms). Massage therapists earning $120 k? Hell no. Not for legit massage anyway. Therapists at high end resort spas around here get $40 per massage and they'll do 4 or 5 massages a day. That doesn't add up to anywhere near $120 k. "Franchise owners" making $300 k first year is laughable. Anyone who's ever owned a franchise of any kind will tell you the first 2-3 years are pure hell. You bleed red. Their numbers don't add up. Franchisors don't build locations or supply employees to you a franchisee. Law actually dictates that they have to be separate entities and the franchisor can't have any influence or involvement in the franchisee's hiring practices. Nothing in what they say is in line with how franchising works. Not to mention their massage pricing is way out of line with even the highest end legit massage pricing. Hell, you can go to the Montage in Laguna Beach and get an hour luxury massage for less than what this place quotes.

What they're looking for is front men to run the shell businesses for the enterprise so the real kingpins can hide in Hong Kong outside of the reach of LE.

[QUOTE=RTDriver;5580311]On a recent Sunday afternoon I stopped by Stars Therapy on Glassell..[/QUOTE]Thanks for report, confirmed I parked down the ways a bit and did a walk by, there appeared to be LE vehicle with someone either snapping photos or vids. I just kept walking. For those that got to experience this place during the good times it will always provide legendary stories!

[QUOTE=MrMike05;5581203]There's two island spas in Orange.[/QUOTE]Its Tustin and Chapman.

First of all, just want to say that this forum is amazing and it really helps those who are nervous about their first time find some quality guidance. So thank you everybody for their participation!

Want to ask if anybody has recommendations for good FS spots that don't charge escort prices. I've been to Airbody and LP a few times and enjoyed the massage (surprise surprise) and HJ experiences, but looking to move up to the next step. Would also prefer someone in their 20's since I am also. From perusing this thread, I can see that Tulip and New Moon are solid choices, but any masseuses or spots in Westminster / Garden Grove or surrounding cities would be great!

[QUOTE=Wireless91910;5576657]Another monger told me a long time ago to "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. ".

I wonder what happen to him.[/QUOTE]Didn't he become president?

[QUOTE=TennisRacket;5583752]First of all, just want to say that this forum is amazing and it really helps those who are nervous about their first time find some quality guidance. So thank you everybody for their participation!

Want to ask if anybody has recommendations for good FS spots that don't charge escort prices. I've been to Airbody and LP a few times and enjoyed the massage (surprise surprise) and HJ experiences, but looking to move up to the next step. Would also prefer someone in their 20's since I am also. From perusing this thread, I can see that Tulip and New Moon are solid choices, but any masseuses or spots in Westminster / Garden Grove or surrounding cities would be great![/QUOTE]When you find somebody in their early 20's we would all like to know. I'll send you all my notes of the last 10 years of my experiences so you won't have to do any of the legwork. 😁 The only one I can't tell you about is the two midgets an the ball gag👍.

Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.

Obviously there's the forum for it, but If anyone needs any Queens recommendations or anywhere touching queens in NYC area I can certainly help out!

[QUOTE=NutterHoeMan;5583373]Thanks for report, confirmed I parked down the ways a bit and did a walk by, there appeared to be LE vehicle with someone either snapping photos or vids. I just kept walking. For those that got to experience this place during the good times it will always provide legendary stories![/QUOTE]Just curious what vehicle you saw that looked like law enforcement?

And what made you think there was some type of surveillance being conducted?

I thought I did a decent scope before parking and getting out of my car.

So what exactly spooked you? I am curious what I missed?

Ok so I've had the opportunity to visit Bamboo and Air Body now. Good service at both, and I'd say both are definitely repeatable. This hobby causes such dilemmas though. LOL. The following three are all basically the same price point.

Bamboo: Good massage with HJ finish from "decent looking" Asian girl in her 30's or 40's. Some UTC access which apparently gets a little better with repeat visits based on reports here. Limited privacy with the curtained rooms.

Air Body: Also good massage with HJ finish. Younger and cuter girls than Bamboo, but less access. Difficult to penetrate the bra (but not impossible). Nearly impossible to penetrate the panties (some reports that it gets a little better with repeat visits). Slightly better privacy than Bamboo.

New Spa (Cypress): Good massage as well, and also HJ finish. Older, less attractive girls, but they put up no resistance to you lifting their their shirts / bras up and pulling their pants down. No problems roaming everywhere. Also located very close to home for me. A bit more expensive than the others at $40/30 min. Tip has never been asked for or discussed there but I always give $40.

If I had an equal choice to visit any of the three on any given day, it would be a tough choice. There's something intriguing in visiting a place like Air Body where there's an unknown element of "can I get a little bit further this time?" I like the girls at Air Body better but access to the goods is a lot harder there. Sometimes it's also nice to know exactly what you're going to get when you walk in, like at New you just know you're going to get stroked and you'll have free access to everywhere.

[QUOTE=Timk1919;5584237]Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.

Obviously there's the forum for it, but If anyone needs any Queens recommendations or anywhere touching queens in NYC area I can certainly help out![/QUOTE]No t sure this area has many Vietnamese ladies. There's not too many folks of that background unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Timk1919;5584237]Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.

Obviously there's the forum for it, but If anyone needs any Queens recommendations or anywhere touching queens in NYC area I can certainly help out![/QUOTE]Check out King's Spa in Laguna Hills. Mostly Viet.

What happened? The get busted?

[QUOTE=July1714;5584938]What happened? The get busted?[/QUOTE]They got shut down by cops late August.

Has anybody had any experience with this place? Just curious since I get wax at the place down stairs, Little Beauty shop.

[QUOTE=Jpkhckwrth;5582889]What in the holy hell is going on with this?

[URL]https://massagebyangels.com/[/URL]

There's an attached youtube channel with like 100+ videos all promoting the whole thing, including like a dozen "client" interviews about how great the place is. The website looks like they spent $1000's on it. It even advertises a "talk show" that runs on some local cable access channel.

The price is $200 for 30 min, listed in big bright colors on the website. It'll let you book a $1000 VIP 100 session if you want. There are two locations, one in Stanton and one in FV.

Is this a scam at literally every level, from the customers to the workers to anyone who puts money into this "franchise?" I don't understand how this can even operate with a massive sign asking for hundreds of dollars at a time. This is so blatant it genuinely confuses me.[/QUOTE]They started out in Costa mesa back in the early 2000's. They built up that "high end"exclusive" image. The girls in the video are hot. Would love to F the 2 blondes. And the youtube videos with the mongers, its laughable. If you want to pay 25 to 50% more for your massage, and then get rebuffed and rejected on the flip, go ahead and visit Angel Spa. I'm sure these girls will charge something north $200 for a fuck. Their scam is to find some rich unsuspecting sucker to buy one of their shops for a six figur number. You know, I just want to fuck. That's it.

[QUOTE=Timk1919;5584237]Hi All. Travelled in from NYC and looking for a Vietnamese provider. FS not needed.[/QUOTE]There is a stunning Vietnamese provider who goes by Kerry / Kelly at Tulip in Stanton. Her massage is average, her tease and extras are not very good, but if you want a beautiful Viet girl she certainly is one.

[QUOTE=CubeBrick;5585022]They started out in Costa mesa back in the early 2000's. They built up that "high end"exclusive" image. The girls in the video are hot. Would love to F the 2 blondes. And the youtube videos with the mongers, its laughable. If you want to pay 25 to 50% more for your massage, and then get rebuffed and rejected on the flip, go ahead and visit Angel Spa. I'm sure these girls will charge something north $200 for a fuck. Their scam is to find some rich unsuspecting sucker to buy one of their shops for a six figur number. You know, I just want to fuck. That's it.[/QUOTE]If it's a legit franchise you can easily get SBA loans, especially for an established brand name. I'm not rich at all and I managed to start a franchise spa business, but it takes a hell of a lot more than $100 k to do it. Mine took about $700 k to start up between construction, opening working capital etc. It does take some balls though. You usually have to put your house up as collateral so if your business fails you're fucked. I can tell you that in this world, $100 k doesn't buy you much. They're touting themselves as an ultra luxury spa and for $100 k that's laughable. The air conditioning for my spa cost that much.

I can tell you what it is. These are criminal enterprises with the kingpin somewhere in Asia and they recruit local owners to run the MPs. If you get busted and arrested that's your problem. LE can never get the king pen. They just go out and recruit more owners who run the shops and send most of the cash overseas after taking a small cut for themselves. If you want to pay 100 k to be a papa San you can probably get your favorite girls to fuck you whenever you want but that's at the cost of likely ending up doing some time behind bars.

Who's the best looking provider with at least a decent massage in your opinion? Handy is fine.