The Sugar World

[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;6541239]I had been trying to meet this one for some time, set up a meet when I was in town last week. Really petite with huge implants but super skinny, does not look as good as her pics by far. Had a couple of drinks and she was nice and fun to chat with. But once in my room wanted her allowance which I gave her. Then she went on this relentless deal with wanting me to shower. To me that's a sure sign of a rob, and being too drunk and tired to care, I told her to just leave and she could keep the $. Crazy thing wouldn't leave, sat on the edge of the bed for like the next 15 minutes and absorbed all the verbal abuse I could think of, still trying to get me to shower.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a0711b99-11c5-45f6-bd3d-31bf9344b660[/URL][/QUOTE]She's only been on the site 3 days LOL. How could you have been trying to meet her for "some time". She wasn't even on the site last week when you "met" her.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6538348]Asked for 3-4 bills for an hour. Meaning you can probably get her for less? Pretty good looking. Just over my budget.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a0711b99-11c5-45f6-bd3d-31bf9344b660[/URL][/QUOTE]This one plays games. Look for my post above.

"200-300 is not even what I do LOL that's way to less haha so no".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9c25bece-d43d-4ed7-9b1d-b8a9521297aa[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrBlueSea;6541239]I had been trying to meet this one for some time, set up a meet when I was in town last week. Really petite with huge implants but super skinny, does not look as good as her pics by far. Had a couple of drinks and she was nice and fun to chat with. But once in my room wanted her allowance which I gave her. Then she went on this relentless deal with wanting me to shower. To me that's a sure sign of a rob, and being too drunk and tired to care, I told her to just leave and she could keep the $. Crazy thing wouldn't leave, sat on the edge of the bed for like the next 15 minutes and absorbed all the verbal abuse I could think of, still trying to get me to shower.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a0711b99-11c5-45f6-bd3d-31bf9344b660[/URL][/QUOTE]Never pay until she delivers. I would have offered for a shower together as foreplay if she insisted I needed one. She was prob looking to survey your belongings, rob you, and then leave while you showered.

[QUOTE=FourSeasons2;6543279]Never pay until she delivers. I would have offered for a shower together as foreplay if she insisted I needed one. She was prob looking to survey your belongings, rob you, and then leave while you showered.[/QUOTE]Yes that is usually my rule as well. Might have to add a new one, as in don't drink to much ahead of time.

I tried the shower together thing, get your clothes off first, etc. She wouldn't budge. And even after I made it clear I was done and she could just leave, the girl just sat there and absorbed all the drunk verbal abuse I thew at her. Strange encounter.

This one wanted $900-$1100 ppm. Goes by the name of Leila. Blocked her before I remembered to get the link but here is her pic.

I don't think this one is looking for a PPM arrangement; the feeling I got from her was that she was trying to set me up to report me to SA by being too explicit about what I was alluding to. Either that or she's just dense. Approach with caution.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fce2383-0080-4556-85f3-e4b9915801a4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Icarus486;6548303]I don't think this one is looking for a PPM arrangement; the feeling I got from her was that she was trying to set me up to report me to SA by being too explicit about what I was alluding to. Either that or she's just dense. Approach with caution.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fce2383-0080-4556-85f3-e4b9915801a4[/URL][/QUOTE]Oddly enough I follow this chic on instagram. She is somehow connected to other girls I have met or seen from this site during my time in Las Vegas (vegas is a small town when it comes to these girls). I saw her profile a while back and was surprised to see her on here and assumed it may be a fake profile using her pictures. You can google Miss Nevada contestants 2023 and she will be among the finalists and you recognize her pic. On her insta she is flying around the world every now and then for modeling shoots so I figured she would not need to be on SA. Who knows, maybe consistent modeling money is not there or maybe she is looking for a whale. I would be surprised if she is DTF for ppm, but like I said who knows. Although if indeed it is a real profile, she gives me vibes of a rinser and probably that is why she was asking those questions. Probably not DTF unless you provide a very high PPM. I also recall she used to do live stream (non nude or sex) just sitting there and doing her hair or chores and video stream, and get like 10 cents everytime someone liked her video LOL, guess that didn't pay off.

Extreme case of GPS with Liv (username idontlikepizza). Wanted $1500 for PPM. The name should have been a red flag.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/b6980f71-66d1-4eec-9bec-540666abedcc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Icarus486;6548303]I don't think this one is looking for a PPM arrangement; the feeling I got from her was that she was trying to set me up to report me to SA by being too explicit about what I was alluding to. Either that or she's just dense. Approach with caution.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fce2383-0080-4556-85f3-e4b9915801a4[/URL][/QUOTE]Highly unlikely. But always just move to txt when discussing intimate details.

[QUOTE=Icarus486;6552794]Extreme case of GPS with Liv (username idontlikepizza). Wanted $1500 for PPM. The name should have been a red flag.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/b6980f71-66d1-4eec-9bec-540666abedcc[/URL][/QUOTE]She also has a dual profile with a black girl (Jay I think). They come and go from SA form time to time. I'm guessing they regularly get reported and banned. Their game is to get one off dates for as much money as possible from unsuspecting tourists.

Another one who wants $1500 for PPM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/3bbc9153-8be8-4a21-b580-21348ba09737[/URL]

This one has a 1 K starting price for PPM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/61196f0f-7e18-4acf-af57-5f91c7884f62[/URL]

[QUOTE=Icarus486;6552794]Extreme case of GPS with Liv (username idontlikepizza). Wanted $1500 for PPM. The name should have been a red flag.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/b6980f71-66d1-4eec-9bec-540666abedcc[/URL][/QUOTE]You keep linking to your messages which we can't see.

[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;6558977]You keep linking to your messages which we can't see.[/QUOTE]Ah that's my bad.

Here is Ryanbaby:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f5a2f8a-52c7-4ebd-94c3-0430652df51b[/URL]

I blocked Liv (idontlikepizza) but she has another profile with a black girl named Jay as someone else mentioned. I'll see if I can dig up a photo.

I also got this weird ass message today. Looks like bait for an underage scam.

Lovelyviolet. She wants $500 per hour. Not worth it to me but maybe you guys will feel differently.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4006f8b3-2bde-465a-b9b5-d87cf01d072d[/URL]

JazzyBabyyy. Wants $1 k PPM, all protected, and doesn't kiss.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c3c5972-4607-4965-bdf4-064405af32ac[/URL]

Willing to trade great UTR from SA for equal value. Your trade must be BBFS CIP, prefer over 25, and normal Not into any drama or drugs.

I have seen this girl a few times. She is very down to earth. Late 20's Blonde hair, Great Rack and BBFS CIP. She was dancer at Sapphires previously but has another job too. Can share pictures and info for trade.

[QUOTE=SportsGuyRed;6566986]Willing to trade great UTR from SA for equal value. Your trade must be BBFS CIP, prefer over 25, and normal Not into any drama or drugs.

I have seen this girl a few times. She is very down to earth. Late 20's Blonde hair, Great Rack and BBFS CIP. She was dancer at Sapphires previously but has another job too. Can share pictures and info for trade.[/QUOTE]I thought this site was about sharing and this is a sugar baby thread also if she is on SA I would not call that UTR just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Tjs8488;6568391]I thought this site was about sharing and this is a sugar baby thread also if she is on SA I would not call that UTR just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Agreed, every one of his posts is either asking for info or seeking to trade info. He has never posted any info himself.

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[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/5a1c5c232e82e1bd[/URL]

If any of you all have an extra 2-3 k laying around she might meet you. Said she is 'new at this' but then said her other SD's gave her 2-3 k PPM.

[QUOTE=JimmyB58;6569555]I've seen this before from posters. They want your info on providers because they're too lazy to look on there on their own and when you send your info on your ladies they don't return the favor.[/QUOTE]Yep. The trade is always one sided. Best case you get the name and number of a girl like Abby who everyone already knows is giving it up. Worst case you get nothing and give up one of your own UTRs.

This girl wants $600 for a ppm. She looks young and hot but that is out of my budget. Here is her link if anyone is interested. She said she would be in town for a few weeks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f5ec1905-c767-429b-946a-930bac6af2f8[/URL]

When I didn't bite on $6 she messaged me back and said she could do $5. So negotiation is possible.

[QUOTE=Hobbyist1980;6571914]This girl wants $600 for a ppm. She looks young and hot but that is out of my budget. Here is her link if anyone is interested. She said she would be in town for a few weeks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f5ec1905-c767-429b-946a-930bac6af2f8[/URL][/QUOTE]

Chatted with this girl on Seeking and we agreed to $400 PPM. Personality-wise she is somewhat blunt / opinionated (conservative) and that might be a turn off for some. Sex-wise I was disappointed. Though hot IMO, she is very much a pillow princess / sex doll-type lay: unenthusiastic and unskilled while at the same time trying to rush our time together. She was however open to BBBJ though I opted for CFS as per my preference. Overall I would not repeat.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/01a10de3-aa29-408c-90fb-d52f44ced9d1[/URL]

Good day fellas, was wondering how these websites worked? Seeking looks more popular then secret benefits.

Should I pay for the 30 days and just start messaging? Do you folks have a picture on your profiles? Some insight would be helpful on your guys methods of madness.

Inbox open.

Thanks I'm advance?

[QUOTE=Relevent116;6575586]Good day fellas, was wondering how these websites worked? Seeking looks more popular then secret benefits.

Should I pay for the 30 days and just start messaging? Do you folks have a picture on your profiles? Some insight would be helpful on your guys methods of madness.

Inbox open.

Thanks I'm advance?[/QUOTE]Looking to get your dick sucked then get fucked?

Or wine and dine then maybe you might get laid? You got the time to invest to cultivate a "fuck" with an SB?

Those girls on the SB sites sometimes require you to invest the time. They want to to get to "know you" My Gawd!

Me? Fuck that shit. Sign on to TER and find some well reviewed girl and cut to the chase.

[QUOTE=HpyGolky;6576493]Looking to get your dick sucked then get fucked?

Or wine and dine then maybe you might get laid? You got the time to invest to cultivate a "fuck" with an SB?

Those girls on the SB sites sometimes require you to invest the time. They want to to get to "know you" My Gawd!

Me? Fuck that shit. Sign on to TER and find some well reviewed girl and cut to the chase.[/QUOTE]Or just ask them if they do PPM's for pussy up front. Just do it via txt not on the website. Pretty simple.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6577025]Or just ask them if they do PPM's for pussy up front. Just do it via txt not on the website. Pretty simple.[/QUOTE]This. 90% of the SBs expect to do PPM and pussy on first date. The only difference between TER and Seeking is no reviews, more bareback options, and somewhat less experience. They are still prostitutes, some just don't like that word.

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;6577080]This. 90% of the SBs expect to do PPM and pussy on first date. The only difference between TER and Seeking is no reviews, more bareback options, and somewhat less experience. They are still prostitutes, some just don't like that word.[/QUOTE]I did bite the bullet and bought the membership and have been talking to bunch of girls, Most Iphones and most came back as registered to girl names when Reverse phone searched, going to go on a few Meet and greets and see what I can scrounge.

Just need to find out how to better word the PPMs don't want to end up getting bs want GFE.

[QUOTE=HpyGolky;6576493]Looking to get your dick sucked then get fucked?

Or wine and dine then maybe you might get laid? You got the time to invest to cultivate a "fuck" with an SB?

Those girls on the SB sites sometimes require you to invest the time. They want to to get to "know you" My Gawd!

Me? Fuck that shit. Sign on to TER and find some well reviewed girl and cut to the chase.[/QUOTE]You are overlooking the fact that some (if not most) are on Seeking to find a date. I've been to Vegas 3 times last couple months, each time I met a SB from Seeking. Each time ended up being dinner / drinks / clubbing / overnight / breakfast. Yes I do enjoy the chase etc but value wise Seeking can't be beat if you're looking for an actual date with a young and fresh cutie. Good luck going on TER and find someone similar for $70/ hour (I paid $500-$1000 for my overnight dates) not to mention bare and MSOG like a real GF. It's like comparing massage parlor to strip clubs. Apples to Oranges.

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;6577080]This. 90% of the SBs expect to do PPM and pussy on first date. The only difference between TER and Seeking is no reviews, more bareback options, and somewhat less experience. They are still prostitutes, some just don't like that word.[/QUOTE]No reviews that's for sure. One of the reasons I stay a low baller. So if the date isn't all that it's no big deal.

I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL]

[QUOTE=Citrus1999;6577957]You are overlooking the fact that some (if not most) are on Seeking to find a date. I've been to Vegas 3 times last couple months, each time I met a SB from Seeking. Each time ended up being dinner / drinks / clubbing / overnight / breakfast. Yes I do enjoy the chase etc but value wise Seeking can't be beat if you're looking for an actual date with a young and fresh cutie. Good luck going on TER and find someone similar for $70/ hour (I paid $500-$1000 for my overnight dates) not to mention bare and MSOG like a real GF. It's like comparing massage parlor to strip clubs. Apples to Oranges.[/QUOTE]You must have good game and are good looking. My usual dates are dinner and drinks, then bare fun in the room, but I'm fat, so I'd say 50% of the girls are out after an hour or two, although it is MSOG and they're usually down for CIP. I've never had girls agree to an overnight on the first date, even though my PPM is also 500 - 1000. A few have asked for more than 1 k as well, but out of dozens of requests that high, I've only relented twice, and that was for two girls I found ridiculously hot. One of them even turned out to be amazingly smart and a great conversationist, and the other was a dumb brat that I enjoyed pinning on the bed and hatefucking.

This is not to say Seeking is bad, on the contrary I've been here for a week and had 2 dates a day scheduled. Some did flake and one girl just threw leftovers in my face, more on that later, but others were enjoyable to hang out with. About half of them were girls I knew already, and the other half new dates.

The girl who threw leftovers in my face was one I took out to dinner. She seemed okay but then gradually revealed how she had two kids with two guys, one of whom was in prison. She lived in a room with her sister in law and shared a twin bed with her kids. She had no job, and had "regulars" in Vegas. Smelled like a hooker, but hey my date earlier that day flaked and I figured it could be a one and done thing with her. Then she tells me no BBFS under any circumstances.

At this point, she's not hot enough to put up with her rules and low class lifestyle. I wait until dinner is finished and we're out in the lobby with the bag of leftovers before telling her that I appreciated her time, but the physical vibe is not going to work if we need to use a condom because I absolutely can't feel anything and won't cum. I offered to cashapp her a little money for her time, and she says "okay sure cashapp me 500. " I said that's the total PPM for a full date, not just dinner. Then she starts making a stank face and says fine we can fuck bare. I tell her I'm not going to force someone to do something they don't want and it's going to be a terrible experience anyway with her attitude, and walk off towards the casino, uber pickup was on the other side. She chases after me and starts asking if I'm seriously not going to pay her anything and I told her I was, then her attitude made me reconsider. She tells me she paid a babysitter for the date and I told her she lives with her sister in law and she said that person was watching her kids at dinner. Then she said she had 35 cents in her bank account and I told her that's not my problem. She reaches in the leftover back, undoes the top on a container, then takes the container out and hurls it in my face, before walking the other way.

Went over to security and explained what happened, they took a report and pics of the food on me before telling me to file a report with LVPD. Here's her account:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6362659-9c00-42a1-acb9-754cd555c612[/URL]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6578265]No reviews that's for sure. One of the reasons I stay a low baller. So if the date isn't all that it's no big deal.[/QUOTE]100% I have met girls from seeking that I would have paid 1 k for if I had go but I didn't know until I had seen them they were that good. I always low ball and eveytime I make an exception I wish I hadn't.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;6583558]I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL][/QUOTE]For sure a 10 in my book. But obviously too pricey for my budget.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;6583558]I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6584299]For sure a 10 in my book. But obviously too pricey for my budget.[/QUOTE]Agree. This LuckyLouis SB is hot, also a 10 in my book. But here's the thing. She looks just like this girl I am banging right now named Nikki. Except the SA girl is only 5'3" while my Nikki is about 5'9". Tall, almost anorexic skinny, super long legs, but with huge natural perfect tits!

And super tight pussy that feels like a soaking wet glove squeezing my very happy peen.

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6587534]Agree. This LuckyLouis SB is hot, also a 10 in my book. But here's the thing. She looks just like this girl I am banging right now named Nikki. Except the SA girl is only 5'3" while my Nikki is about 5'9". Tall, almost anorexic skinny, super long legs, but with huge natural perfect tits!

And super tight pussy that feels like a soaking wet glove squeezing my very happy peen.[/QUOTE]Agreed. And on the flip side I can't tell you how many girls I hit up on seeking over the years only for them to tell me we already fucked or it didn't work out. It becomes a blur at some point, especially if you are over doing it. lol. And your girl is super hot btw.

You're probably right. Even though I'm in my 40's and have a family I'm still very much into the nightlife. I stay in very good shape and do have "game. ".

I never do dinner dates in LV. Always meet at a nice lounge and spend at least 45 min-1 hour just talking and flirting w / POT. At that point both the POT and I can feel the chemistry and things just pretty go organic from there (and much easier to "negotiate" once there's mutual chemistry and attraction).

I don't even suggest overnight when I negotiate, it's almost "understood" I guess if we are vibing then naturally we'll end up spending the night all inclusive.

On Bare, It's so so so hard to turn down especially when you have a 25 yr old clean shaven white pussy eagerly inviting. I've been burnt more than once though literally and figuratively that it's just not worth bringing shit home. Try 001 condom from Japan.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6583795]You must have good game and are good looking. My usual dates are dinner and drinks, then bare fun in the room, but I'm fat, so I'd say 50% of the girls are out after an hour or two, although it is MSOG and they're usually down for CIP. I've never had girls agree to an overnight on the first date, even though my PPM is also 500 - 1000. A few have asked for more than 1 k as well, but out of dozens of requests that high, I've only relented twice, and that was for two girls I found ridiculously hot. One of them even turned out to be amazingly smart and a great conversationist, and the other was a dumb brat that I enjoyed pinning on the bed and hatefucking.

This is not to say Seeking is bad, on the contrary I've been here for a week and had 2 dates a day scheduled. Some did flake and one girl just threw leftovers in my face, more on that later, but others were enjoyable to hang out with. About half of them were girls I knew already, and the other half new dates.

The girl who threw leftovers in my face was one I took out to dinner. She seemed okay but then gradually revealed how she had two kids with two guys, one of whom was in prison. She lived in a room with her sister in law and shared a twin bed with her kids. She had no job, and had "regulars" in Vegas. Smelled like a hooker, but hey my date earlier that day flaked and I figured it could be a one and done thing with her. Then she tells me no BBFS under any circumstances.

At this point, she's not hot enough to put up with her rules and low class lifestyle. I wait until dinner is finished and we're out in the lobby with the bag of leftovers before telling her that I appreciated her time, but the physical vibe is not going to work if we need to use a condom because I absolutely can't feel anything and won't cum. I offered to cashapp her a little money for her time, and she says "okay sure cashapp me 500. " I said that's the total PPM for a full date, not just dinner. Then she starts making a stank face and says fine we can fuck bare. I tell her I'm not going to force someone to do something they don't want and it's going to be a terrible experience anyway with her attitude, and walk off towards the casino, uber pickup was on the other side. She chases after me and starts asking if I'm seriously not going to pay her anything and I told her I was, then her attitude made me reconsider. She tells me she paid a babysitter for the date and I told her she lives with her sister in law and she said that person was watching her kids at dinner. Then she said she had 35 cents in her bank account and I told her that's not my problem. She reaches in the leftover back, undoes the top on a container, then takes the container out and hurls it in my face, before walking the other way.

Went over to security and explained what happened, they took a report and pics of the food on me before telling me to file a report with LVPD. Here's her account:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6362659-9c00-42a1-acb9-754cd555c612[/URL][/QUOTE]