Boulder Highway

[QUOTE=SirDixAlot;3511305]I've been pretty much out of the street game for a while but this tactic is intriguing. Is it strictly enforcement avoidance or do you feel you get better service when you see them "off the street"? Also wondering if the strategy could be tailored for other situations.[/QUOTE]In my experience, seeing girls "off the street" is actually a lesser experience than when you pick them up while they're strolling.

When they are walking, they are working. Granted, they may only hit the track when they are in need of some more immediate money and they may be a little more rushed or anxious, but a good provider will be good once she is in work mode. Many times when I call a girl, she is out of work mode and it shows. You pick a girl up while she's walking, it takes a few minutes to find a spot and then your dick is being pleasured. You call her, and now you have to wait because, believe it or not, these girls have lives outside of sucking our cocks. She's at a friend's, she's waiting for someone, she's got to get dressed, she was just about to go to sleep, she just got high and she's really fucked up. Think of all the reasons you can't leave your house right now, and she's got that many reasons why she can't come to you right now. The worst one is when she makes a date with you and blows you off because something better came up or as soon as she got off the phone with you she went to her dealer and spent the money you were bringing her with the promise that she would pay when your date with her was over, and now she's lit up in her room and totally fucks off your date while you're sitting in some sketchy parking lot for 20 minutes waiting for her and looking like some straight guy waiting for a hooker because you stick out like a sore thumb in this dump. If she does show up, she's fucked up and out of it and the fun isn't that much fun. Finally, I"ve had girls just completely take me for granted and show up looking like shit because it's only me. On the street, they have to look good.

I made a date with a Vegas girl once and I told her exactly when I was coming to town and when I could see her. I start texting her when I have a better idea of the exact time when I would arrive, and nothing. I even knock on her door, and her roommate tells me she's out on the stroll because she was broke. What the fuck? She knew I was coming, and now she'll be walking and might or might not get a date but fucked up a sure thing. I drove right past her up the road and picked up someone else. An hour later she was texting me like crazy.

Plenty of girls out on the street do a shit job because they're desperate or dope sick or they just hate blowing strangers, but those girls would not do a better job if you called them at a better time. I have also realized that negotiation is not a favorable thing with hookers. They may call you when they are a little more anxious to earn any money they can, but that rarely translates to better service. It's all about the girl.

As for "enforcement avoidance", getting a girl's number will not keep you out of jail if she is an undercover and you talk to her like she is a hooker about doing hooker stuff. If anything, you are more at risk if she is undercover, because an undercover won't get in to your car. If a cop is across the street watching her, then you stopping to talk to her is still probable cause for them to pull you over. They can't charge you with prostitution, but they can give you a bullshit ticket and charge you if they find something in your car.

[QUOTE=VegasCruiser;3511295]This has been my tactic lately. If I see someone I like I'll pull up, tell them I'm late to a meeting and ask for their phone number so I can call later. Did that today with a cutie on Boulder & Indios at the Sinclair. She's about 5'8", regular build with big tits. Blonde and cute. Her name is Nicole. I've seen her at that corner a couple times of the past few months. Good looking with a huge rack. Might call her tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LongGone13;3511844]I've used this method a few times as well. More often than not it's when I spot one and she turns out to be good from far but far from good. I'll find out what they are willing to do and for how much, collect digits then move along. Works well.[/QUOTE]Another great idea long gone.

[QUOTE=PopCorn77;3515991]Another great idea long gone.[/QUOTE]An oldie fave of mine using the bus to get numbers and walking trop from Arville to Decatur get digits and back onto the bus works like a charm!

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;3515477]In my experience, seeing girls "off the street" is actually a lesser experience than when you pick them up while they're strolling.

When they are walking, they are working. Granted, they may only hit the track when they are in need of some more immediate money and they may be a little more rushed or anxious, but a good provider will be good once she is in work mode. Many times when I call a girl, she is out of work mode and it shows. You pick a girl up while she's walking, it takes a few minutes to find a spot and then your dick is being pleasured. You call her, and now you have to wait because, believe it or not, these girls have lives outside of sucking our cocks. She's at a friend's, she's waiting for someone, she's got to get dressed, she was just about to go to sleep, she just got high and she's really fucked up. Think of all the reasons you can't leave your house right now, and she's got that many reasons why she can't come to you right now. The worst one is when she makes a date with you and blows you off because something better came up or as soon as she got off the phone with you she went to her dealer and spent the money you were bringing her with the promise that she would pay when your date with her was over, and now she's lit up in her room and totally fucks off your date while you're sitting in some sketchy parking lot for 20 minutes waiting for her and looking like some straight guy waiting for a hooker because you stick out like a sore thumb in this dump. If she does show up, she's fucked up and out of it and the fun isn't that much fun. Finally, I"ve had girls just completely take me for granted and show up looking like shit because it's only me. On the street, they have to look good.

I made a date with a Vegas girl once and I told her exactly when I was coming to town and when I could see her. I start texting her when I have a better idea of the exact time when I would arrive, and nothing. I even knock on her door, and her roommate tells me she's out on the stroll because she was broke. What the fuck? She knew I was coming, and now she'll be walking and might or might not get a date but fucked up a sure thing. I drove right past her up the road and picked up someone else. An hour later she was texting me like crazy.

Plenty of girls out on the street do a shit job because they're desperate or dope sick or they just hate blowing strangers, but those girls would not do a better job if you called them at a better time. I have also realized that negotiation is not a favorable thing with hookers. They may call you when they are a little more anxious to earn any money they can, but that rarely translates to better service. It's all about the girl.

As for "enforcement avoidance", getting a girl's number will not keep you out of jail if she is an undercover and you talk to her like she is a hooker about doing hooker stuff. If anything, you are more at risk if she is undercover, because an undercover won't get in to your car. If a cop is across the street watching her, then you stopping to talk to her is still probable cause for them to pull you over. They can't charge you with prostitution, but they can give you a bullshit ticket and charge you if they find something in your car.[/QUOTE]My experience has been totally the opposite. I rarely date a girl on the streets, I hate the nasty motels, would much rather take them to my house or a decent room that I have. I used to only see hot ones when I was working, going to see someone else or coming from seeing someone else so I would just pass them by but one day I stopped one, got her digits and saw her the next day. Been doing that ever since. The advantage for me has been my time spent with them is far less rushed, they aren't concerned about the dollars they are missing on the street while they are with me so they tend to spend a lot more time with me and their attitudes are much better because as you say they are not in work mode so their guard is down a bit and they are not frustrated by the last 10 guys that stopped them and wanted everything for $. 2, the big, fat, smelly guy they just had to deal with or the guy she just left that was a jackass. I've had girls stay for well over an hour for the same rate as if we had went to a motel for 20 minutes. Remember, despite what they do, they are women so they still enjoy being treated nice and going to a place that is clean, smells good and has a very comfortable bed. I usually ask them what time they work, if they start at 9 pm, I ask if I can see them at 8, they can start the day off on a positive note, I'm first so they are nice and fresh, not tired or pissed off. A lot of them have called me when they aren't making anything or about to go in but it's usually after 2 am and I'm sleep. I've only had a few that I couldn't hook up with after getting their digits. I've actually met a few that will drop what they are doing or adjust their schedule to see me. Yeah, they do have lives outside of pleasing us but at the end of the day they are all about $$.

Was out there about 4:30 yesterday afternoon, not too much action. Drove up to Flamingo, turned around and headed back towards BS, passed the freeway and busted a you turn. Get to the light on DI, looking at my phone when the light turned green, other cars had already started moving. Took off and LE hit me with lights and siren! He came up to the car and said he pulled me over because I was past the limit line at the intersection!! I didn't argue with him but it was clear why he stopped me. Asked a bunch of question that had nothing to do with this BS stop (where I was going, what I do for a living, have any felonies). They did not search my car but his partner was looking very closely in my back seat area. They finally let me go with a warning. I took off they stayed behind me, I told them I was going to the buffet at Sam's Town, they stayed behind me until I made the left into the parking lot, then they made a you turn.

Was in Sam's for about 45 minutes, left and damn there they were again as soon as I pulled on to BH, they were a few cars behind me so I'm not sure if it was the same ones but I kept checking my mirror and see them pull over someone else just across Flamingo. Saw about 3 more between there and DI, took my ass home.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3517092]Was out there about 4:30 yesterday afternoon, not too much action. Drove up to Flamingo, turned around and headed back towards BS, passed the freeway and busted a you turn. Get to the light on DI, looking at my phone when the light turned green, other cars had already started moving. Took off and LE hit me with lights and siren! He came up to the car and said he pulled me over because I was past the limit line at the intersection!! I didn't argue with him but it was clear why he stopped me. Asked a bunch of question that had nothing to do with this BS stop (where I was going, what I do for a living, have any felonies). They did not search my car but his partner was looking very closely in my back seat area. They finally let me go with a warning. I took off they stayed behind me, I told them I was going to the buffet at Sam's Town, they stayed behind me until I made the left into the parking lot, then they made a you turn.

Was in Sam's for about 45 minutes, left and damn there they were again as soon as I pulled on to BH, they were a few cars behind me so I'm not sure if it was the same ones but I kept checking my mirror and see them pull over someone else just across Flamingo. Saw about 3 more between there and DI, took my ass home.[/QUOTE]Metro and NHP were pulling people over all day and night on BH.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3517080]My experience has been totally the opposite. I rarely date a girl on the streets, I hate the nasty motels, would much rather take them to my house or a decent room that I have. I used to only see hot ones when I was working, going to see someone else or coming from seeing someone else so I would just pass them by but one day I stopped one, got her digits and saw her the next day. Been doing that ever since. The advantage for me has been my time spent with them is far less rushed, they aren't concerned about the dollars they are missing on the street while they are with me so they tend to spend a lot more time with me and their attitudes are much better because as you say they are not in work mode so their guard is down a bit and they are not frustrated by the last 10 guys that stopped them and wanted everything for $. 2, the big, fat, smelly guy they just had to deal with or the guy she just left that was a jackass. I've had girls stay for well over an hour for the same rate as if we had went to a motel for 20 minutes. Remember, despite what they do, they are women so they still enjoy being treated nice and going to a place that is clean, smells good and has a very comfortable bed. I usually ask them what time they work, if they start at 9 pm, I ask if I can see them at 8, they can start the day off on a positive note, I'm first so they are nice and fresh, not tired or pissed off. A lot of them have called me when they aren't making anything or about to go in but it's usually after 2 am and I'm sleep. I've only had a few that I couldn't hook up with after getting their digits. I've actually met a few that will drop what they are doing or adjust their schedule to see me. Yeah, they do have lives outside of pleasing us but at the end of the day they are all about $$.[/QUOTE]SuckerBill's entire post was DEAD wrong. I called texted Nicole the next day, met her in the morning, came to my place, BBBJ and fucked her amazingly huge, yet quite firm tits. She was fun, clean and all in the comfort of my own home without either of us wasting time on the track.

One danger with connecting via phone / text is there is a time-stamped record that will never go away. If she get's arrested and phone is seized, I'll be in the evidence mix. Even worse, if something happens to her, anyone recently communicating with her will likely be questioned.

As of late, I am not permitted to share her number.

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;3515477]As for "enforcement avoidance", getting a girl's number will not keep you out of jail if she is an undercover and you talk to her like she is a hooker about doing hooker stuff. If anything, you are more at risk if she is undercover, because an undercover won't get in to your car. If a cop is across the street watching her, then you stopping to talk to her is still probable cause for them to pull you over. They can't charge you with prostitution, but they can give you a bullshit ticket and charge you if they find something in your car.[/QUOTE]Thank you Captain Obvious for the lessons on how to avoid LEO.

[QUOTE=Dac007;3517092]Was out there about 4:30 yesterday afternoon, not too much action. Drove up to Flamingo, turned around and headed back towards BS, passed the freeway and busted a you turn. Get to the light on DI, looking at my phone when the light turned green, other cars had already started moving. Took off and LE hit me with lights and siren! He came up to the car and said he pulled me over because I was past the limit line at the intersection!! I didn't argue with him but it was clear why he stopped me. Asked a bunch of question that had nothing to do with this BS stop (where I was going, what I do for a living, have any felonies). They did not search my car but his partner was looking very closely in my back seat area. They finally let me go with a warning. I took off they stayed behind me, I told them I was going to the buffet at Sam's Town, they stayed behind me until I made the left into the parking lot, then they made a you turn.

Was in Sam's for about 45 minutes, left and damn there they were again as soon as I pulled on to BH, they were a few cars behind me so I'm not sure if it was the same ones but I kept checking my mirror and see them pull over someone else just across Flamingo. Saw about 3 more between there and DI, took my ass home.[/QUOTE]Talk to them that's the cardinal sin. They are liars you're lucky it wasn't anything else always be courteous and as well within your rights to ask if your being detained if not tell them see ya sucker!

[QUOTE=SuckerBill;3515477]In my experience, seeing girls "off the street" is actually a lesser experience than when you pick them up while they're strolling.

When they are walking, they are working. Granted, they may only hit the track when they are in need of some more immediate money and they may be a little more rushed or anxious, but a good provider will be good once she is in work mode. Many times when I call a girl, she is out of work mode and it shows. You pick a girl up while she's walking, it takes a few minutes to find a spot and then your dick is being pleasured. You call her, and now you have to wait because, believe it or not, these girls have lives outside of sucking our cocks. She's at a friend's, she's waiting for someone, she's got to get dressed, she was just about to go to sleep, she just got high and she's really fucked up. Think of all the reasons you can't leave your house right now, and she's got that many reasons why she can't come to you right now. The worst one is when she makes a date with you and blows you off because something better came up or as soon as she got off the phone with you she went to her dealer and spent the money you were bringing her with the promise that she would pay when your date with her was over, and now she's lit up in her room and totally fucks off your date while you're sitting in some sketchy parking lot for 20 minutes waiting for her and looking like some straight guy waiting for a hooker because you stick out like a sore thumb in this dump. If she does show up, she's fucked up and out of it and the fun isn't that much fun. Finally, I"ve had girls just completely take me for granted and show up looking like shit because it's only me. On the street, they have to look good.

I made a date with a Vegas girl once and I told her exactly when I was coming to town and when I could see her. I start texting her when I have a better idea of the exact time when I would arrive, and nothing. I even knock on her door, and her roommate tells me she's out on the stroll because she was broke. What the fuck? She knew I was coming, and now she'll be walking and might or might not get a date but fucked up a sure thing. I drove right past her up the road and picked up someone else. An hour later she was texting me like crazy.

Plenty of girls out on the street do a shit job because they're desperate or dope sick or they just hate blowing strangers, but those girls would not do a better job if you called them at a better time. I have also realized that negotiation is not a favorable thing with hookers. They may call you when they are a little more anxious to earn any money they can, but that rarely translates to better service. It's all about the girl.

As for "enforcement avoidance", getting a girl's number will not keep you out of jail if she is an undercover and you talk to her like she is a hooker about doing hooker stuff. If anything, you are more at risk if she is undercover, because an undercover won't get in to your car. If a cop is across the street watching her, then you stopping to talk to her is still probable cause for them to pull you over. They can't charge you with prostitution, but they can give you a bullshit ticket and charge you if they find something in your car.[/QUOTE]Why when I do my thing I am there just to see her up front get the number and get out so I can do my research never say anything to the girls accept if you may have her number any idiot can beat that charge if you do get arrested.

[QUOTE=VegasCruiser;3517179]SuckerBill's entire post was DEAD wrong. I called texted Nicole the next day, met her in the morning, came to my place, BBBJ and fucked her amazingly huge, yet quite firm tits. She was fun, clean and all in the comfort of my own home without either of us wasting time on the track.

One danger with connecting via phone / text is there is a time-stamped record that will never go away. If she get's arrested and phone is seized, I'll be in the evidence mix. Even worse, if something happens to her, anyone recently communicating with her will likely be questioned.

As of late, I am not permitted to share her number.[/QUOTE]I used to bring dates back to my place and it was cool at first. Saved a few dollars. I didn't keep anything of value out that accessible. I travel so I was rarely there. Have a door man that regulates riffraff. He's retired military and PD so he does not hesitate to throw people out.

I had a provider that came up a few times and she was well-known and reviewed. I guess she scoped out my digs after a few visits. Then, low and behold her man shows up at the front desk looking for her claiming she's in trouble and the whole BS. Luckily, the front desk told him to wait outside, called me and told me what was going on. I told the girl that my wife was home and she had to leave. Put her in the elevator and the door man got her off the elevator and showed her out the door. By the time they realized what happened they were in no position to affect me other than the bullshit text messages and phone calls to my burner phone. And the claims that she took my mail and now has all my info (my mail goes to a PO box then to the shredder).

Just a warning. These girls all have something going on that can ruin your day.

Yeah I've been pulled over multiple times on boulder or fremont. Always some lame excuse, failure to maintain lane, or because my tags came back weird, some dumb shit like that. A couple of times I've given them attitude, why you running my tags in the first place? And they always come back with lamer excuses. Depending on which way I'm headed, I'm always coming from some casino checking the poker room, and headed to another to check the poker room there. Maybe I can't sleep because I have insomnia or ptsd so I'm just driving around. As long as they ddint see me talking to a girl or with one in the car, good luck with any of their other silly tickets.

[QUOTE=Justgrand;3517559]Yeah I've been pulled over multiple times on boulder or fremont. Always some lame excuse, failure to maintain lane, or because my tags came back weird, some dumb shit like that. A couple of times I've given them attitude, why you running my tags in the first place? And they always come back with lamer excuses. Depending on which way I'm headed, I'm always coming from some casino checking the poker room, and headed to another to check the poker room there. Maybe I can't sleep because I have insomnia or ptsd so I'm just driving around. As long as they ddint see me talking to a girl or with one in the car, good luck with any of their other silly tickets.[/QUOTE]I can't claim this strategy because I read about it from another monger. I had a Gidian Bible from the night stand with me. The one time I had a cop pull me over and ask what I was doing I lifted the Good Book and said, "I'm doing the Lord's work. " He turned around and walked to his car.

C3.

[QUOTE=VegasCruiser;3517179]SuckerBill's entire post was DEAD wrong. I called texted Nicole the next day, met her in the morning, came to my place, BBBJ and fucked her amazingly huge, yet quite firm tits. She was fun, clean and all in the comfort of my own home without either of us wasting time on the track.

One danger with connecting via phone / text is there is a time-stamped record that will never go away. If she get's arrested and phone is seized, I'll be in the evidence mix. Even worse, if something happens to her, anyone recently communicating with her will likely be questioned.[/QUOTE]My entire post is not wrong, it is simply my experience. One thing we can all admit is that our experiences can differ day to day and girl to girl. I have had girls that were great ten times in a row and then meeting #11 was a nightmare. I have read horrible posts about girls that I have a great time with. Some things work with some girls and some don't. Nicole may have worked out well for you, so good for you. Mostly for me, however, girls that have been great a couple of times on the stroll turned out terrible once I started calling them, because they start to half-ass the preparation and keep me waiting and maybe don't dress up as nice as they would when they are trying to attract attention in the street.

[QUOTE=Justgrand;3517559]Yeah I've been pulled over multiple times on boulder or fremont. Always some lame excuse, failure to maintain lane, or because my tags came back weird, some dumb shit like that. A couple of times I've given them attitude, why you running my tags in the first place? And they always come back with lamer excuses. Depending on which way I'm headed, I'm always coming from some casino checking the poker room, and headed to another to check the poker room there. Maybe I can't sleep because I have insomnia or ptsd so I'm just driving around. As long as they ddint see me talking to a girl or with one in the car, good luck with any of their other silly tickets.[/QUOTE]A lot of police cars have a scanner on the front of their cars that lock in on license plates and automatically run them, then alert the officers if there is a problem. This frees up the officers to keep a look-out for criminal activity while the car automatically looks for opportunities to write shitty tickets.