I forgot to mention, Julie said she's afraid the grandpa customers might die while doing the deed.
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I forgot to mention, Julie said she's afraid the grandpa customers might die while doing the deed.
[QUOTE=Heavy Chevy;1660872]I forgot to mention, Julie said she's afraid the grandpa customers might die while doing the deed.[/QUOTE]Haha, most providers have a bunch of older dudes always proposing to them because they got the moolah! But will they ever marry um? No way! Just use and milk them for all they got. I hear some older guys visit up to 5 times a week with some of the popular girls. But let it be, they keep them happy so they can buy stuff for their BFs. LOL. I am pretty sure that none of the hotties today would even consider being with an oldie if they had the choice. But money talks! They can buy their happiness and fill whatever void is there. No one hurt, no problem!
[QUOTE=Dicktracy25; 1660653]I have asked some YOUNG / PRETTY AMP ladies how do they feel and deal with grandpas and unfits clients.
They came up with these answers.
1 Julie. She asked me back how would I feel to be with a 60 years old woman weight 200 lbs.
2 Coco- it is a business, if I have a choice I would pick someone I like to be with.
3 Million. Looking at the clock waiting mama to call time.
4 Sara- just give them longer massage and shower.[/QUOTE]LOL. Sara's answer. Julie's answer just reminds us that's its not all fun & games for these girls. Also money can make people do things they won't otherwise do.
On that note. Please don't retire Julie. I lost my ATF Alice last year & can't lose you.
[QUOTE=Heavy Chevy;1660872]I forgot to mention, Julie said she's afraid the grandpa customers might die while doing the deed.[/QUOTE]Haha on the flipside not a bad way to go as a Grandpa.
[QUOTE=Makiki; 1661008]LOL. Sara's answer. Julie's answer just reminds us that's its not all fun & games for these girls. Also money can make people do things they won't otherwise do.
On that note. Please don't retire Julie. I lost my ATF Alice last year & can't lose you.[/QUOTE]Read these older grandpa posts with a smile on my face. Been doing this a long time and true if we all had our choice all customers and providers would be a perfect match but don't kid yourselves green is more of an equalizer and fountain of youth than one might think. Tell the young studs what they want to hear tell grandpa what he wants to hear and take it all to the bank.
All I want is what I came for and with a little research I seldom leave disappointed. They don't like drunks and rude guys either and a variety of other things they put up with. It is a business and those that are around and successful are quite good at it.
Don't care if they really like me or not but I always treat them with respect and they reciprocate.
Just my. 02.
BTW I always go for the hot looking younger spinners and will continue to do so as long as Jr continues to perform.
[QUOTE=Buster50;1660058]I have to agree somewhat. I know that some providers really treat their older clients well because they have the KALA! But I would hear them grumble later or comment how they would ask them to marry them and they would all bust out laughing. Most older mongers really tip well and are the life line to most girls but, most would never settle down with them unless they are desperate.[/QUOTE]Guys still want to be Hugh Hefner.
[QUOTE=Dicktracy25;1660186]Julie with attitude? Yes she does. I like her but I will not cover for her on that one, but what can I say. You expect a pretty girl like her to get HIGH on grandpas and unfits?[/QUOTE]How old is she? Is she a cougar who prefer younger guys?
[QUOTE=Chasin It; 1661068]Read these older grandpa posts with a smile on my face. Been doing this a long time and true if we all had our choice all customers and providers would be a perfect match but don't kid yourselves green is more of an equalizer and fountain of youth than one might think. Tell the young studs what they want to hear tell grandpa what he wants to hear and take it all to the bank.
All I want is what I came for and with a little research I seldom leave disappointed. They don't like drunks and rude guys either and a variety of other things they put up with. It is a business and those that are around and successful are quite good at it.
Don't care if they really like me or not but I always treat them with respect and they reciprocate.
Just my. 02.
BTW I always go for the hot looking younger spinners and will continue to do so as long as Jr continues to perform.[/QUOTE]I think you hit the nail on the head. Many providers have told me they prefer the older customers. I've been told the older guys know how to fuck better than the younger ones. We treat them better and don't get all lovey lovely like the younger ones. I just figure its marketing. Julie / Ivey has always treated me great. She is probably one of the youngest providers at late 20s or so.
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Saw what you wrote and damn right, Similar and I sure as hell agree.
[QUOTE=Chasin It; 1661110]HL
Saw what you wrote and damn right, Similar and I sure as hell agree.[/QUOTE]Thanks. There's been a lot of backlash for going off-topic lately, so I decided to delete it.
If anyone is interested, I can send a PM. It was mostly to do with how I interact with providers as an older gentlemen and how it affects my life outside the AMPs as well.
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1661118]Thanks. There's been a lot of backlash for going off-topic lately, so I decided to delete it.
If anyone is interested, I can send a PM. It was mostly to do with how I interact with providers as an older gentlemen and how it affects my life outside the AMPs as well.[/QUOTE]Hypo I agree with you in some part, but a young guy that has skills will for sure out rank older guys. I think they say that just to keep you cumming. LOL. Otherwise they be banging oldies on their day off!
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1636503]As stated in my previous post, I was living lean. Very lean, at the beginning to last quarter of the year. I limited myself to one visit per quarter (3 mo.) to an AMP.
What I did was instead of depositing any extra money in savings or checking, I only left in the account what I need to pay bills on and live on. The rest, I placed (in $100 bills) in an envelope and put in a safe in my home. Whenever I had the urge to monger, the funds HAD to come out of this stash because my bank accounts didn't have the cushion. So, when you see just how much you have in front of you, and how much is missing after you take the amount needed to monger, it helps you NOT go and keep the money. When you see your stash grow to five figures, then you can easily take a couple of bills for pussy! But, it is still hard to pull more and see it go down $1000 right in front of you. Something about seeing the bills in your hand just makes it a more easily realized effect on your finances.
I know this sounds like a weird thing, but I have tried to slow down before due to finances, and nothing else worked until this method. Seriously. Having ALL banking accounts and debit cards with no room for play does wonders for your impulse spending, not just AMP spending. Just try it. You'll find it's harder to hand over paper money for stuff than plastic.
Good luck mongering within your means for 2013 (got the year right this time H Mobius, haha)![/QUOTE]Hilarious. I just recognize one session is like one month of plate lunch. So when I get a junk session I realize I just blew one month of plate lunch out the window. Start cookimg lunch at home for myself and it slows down my sessions real quick.
[QUOTE=Heavy Chevy;1660872]I forgot to mention, Julie said she's afraid the grandpa customers might die while doing the deed.[/QUOTE]Saw a gentleman coming out of VIP look like in his late 60's, gray hair with a big beer belly, not good shape at all, he was breathing very hard when he was walking pass by me, just one question. Does any AMP facility have first responder equipment such as defibrillator just in case someone is needed, I know many Spa and health clubs equipped it such as 24 hrs fitness, you just never know someone might need it one day, when they are dealing with so many older folks.
So I looked around tonight hitting up the AMPs in the ward area. I was pretty disappointed with the quality and quantity of girls available. I'm not sure if the better looking girls were in sessions or everyone is on vacation but I was pretty darn disappointed. Tokyo Spa did if one girl that I felt was doable. Although her mid section looked a bit pudgy.
Yep I saw the same thing at ward. Even Seven & Ginza. Was weak. I was thinking with probowl coming up they would be fully stocked. VIP had the best lineup but probably the worst and smallest I had seen ever seen there, still better than all the other places. Mini Mia. Million & Jules was there but Million got taken just before I arrived. A couple other avg looking korean girls and 2 white girls.
[QUOTE=YG365;1661186]So I looked around tonight hitting up the AMPs in the ward area. I was pretty disappointed with the quality and quantity of girls available. I'm not sure if the better looking girls were in sessions or everyone is on vacation but I was pretty darn disappointed. Tokyo Spa did if one girl that I felt was doable. Although her mid section looked a bit pudgy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa; 1661118]Thanks. There's been a lot of backlash for going off-topic lately, so I decided to delete it.
If anyone is interested, I can send a PM. It was mostly to do with how I interact with providers as an older gentlemen and how it affects my life outside the AMPs as well.[/QUOTE]This discussion along with related topics can also be had in the Mongering With Old Guys Threads. That's actually the original reason for the thread. To talk about old farts who monger. Not limited to old times.
I think the providers might be scared of the Pro Bowl crowd because they are too "big" and will wear them out. Hahaha. Either that or they are out schmoozing with the Pro Bowl crowd?
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;1661153]Saw a gentleman coming out of VIP look like in his late 60's, gray hair with a big beer belly, not good shape at all, he was breathing very hard when he was walking pass by me, just one question. Does any AMP facility have first responder equipment such as defibrillator just in case someone is needed, I know many Spa and health clubs equipped it such as 24 hrs fitness, you just never know someone might need it one day, when they are dealing with so many older folks[/QUOTE]Thanks I was eating and almost chocked on my sandwich almost needed a first responder myself!.
[QUOTE=RadioHazard;1661453]Yep I saw the same thing at ward. Even Seven & Ginza. Was weak. I was thinking with probowl coming up they would be fully stocked. VIP had the best lineup but probably the worst and smallest I had seen ever seen there, still better than all the other places. Mini Mia. Million & Jules was there but Million got taken just before I arrived. A couple other avg looking korean girls and 2 white girls.[/QUOTE]Is the Chinese New Years this weekend?
[QUOTE=Memahu;1662076]Is the Chinese New Years this weekend?[/QUOTE]Feb 10 is the actual day, but the celebrations in chinatown began tonight and will be on for the next 3 weekends from what I heard from a friend.
Why are so many AMP have security camera installed on the outside and inside of the facility? What is the purpose of it? Aren't the Johns be possibly exposed if the place is raided.
It is almost end of the month, it's time to do some recon. First stop at Asia Spa to look for the Chinese girl that they advertise, asked for her, mama said we have no Chinese working here, she said if you want to come in would cost you .6 HF, I said what about the .4 HF you advertise, she said the special rate is only good for the day that they advertise, asked what about the .5 HF I used to pay, she said the HF has gone up, this place is absolutely pitiful, avoid like a plague, very limited selection with only granny Candy mama and another granny work there. Even the Chinese girl would have been there, there is no way I would pay .6 HF.
Swing by at 7. Only 3 girls sat on the couch, Kimi, Coco and a 200 pounds heavy white girl, told mama I will be back later.
Went to Ohana to check for Kimberly, never have met her before, heard she gives good service, upon arrival saw a blue and white parked near by. Opted not to go up that high stairs.
Stopped by Club LZ, saw a lady fit the description of the famous Nazly, never have met her and don't know if that was her for sure. But I heard about her wildness, she was with a grandpa and it seem like there was a guy waiting for her near by, had 3 drinks was doing some eyes shopping there, lot of pretty girls but most of them were busy, did not see Mariko there which some people said she works there.
[QUOTE=Buster50;1660058]I have to agree somewhat. I know that some providers really treat their older clients well because they have the KALA! But I would hear them grumble later or comment how they would ask them to marry them and they would all bust out laughing. Most older mongers really tip well and are the life line to most girls but, most would never settle down with them unless they are desperate. If you look around, most providers go for the combo, looks, age and money. I've seen girls out with older guys but they were just customers paying for their time, when you get freebies and spend their down time with you then you are IN! Think about it, the hottest ones could get whoever they wanted outside of work, so why would they settle for less? Just imagine if you were a provider. If I were HOT, I would pick and choose who I see and if I had to, I too would be a dead fish to some. LOL I'm not saying you are old or anything, just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]In my experience the older providers really need the KALA because they know their days of providing and competing are numbered, and often they are caring for kids with college bills. If they don't cash out they wind up penniless, doing the laundry or cooking the meals in a spa in their old age. LOL. That was certainly my experience with Angie / Mimi / of Golden Butterfly when she worked in North Carolina. I can't tell you how many times I was implored to assist her in "getting out of the business" with large grants of cash, only to find out the money was gambled away and she was right back working at another spa. Also, an alternative story was that she had borrowed money from Korean loan sharks to feed her gambling addiction and that if she did not repay the loan she would be "sold" into another spa (a form of trafficking?). The spa owner, allegedly in Angie's case the owner of Luxury Ocean, would buy the loan and thus Angie's services until the loan was repaid. My refusal to pay finally got me bumped off, and glad I was. Beware of entanglements with these working girls to any, any extent. By the way, NC has finally issued a national warrant for her arrest on an old prostitution charge and have contacted me about her whereabouts. I suspect she is living sub rosa in Honolulu with some new host body.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;1662851]Why are so many AMP have security camera installed on the outside and inside of the facility? What is the purpose of it? Aren't the Johns be possibly exposed if the place is raided.[/QUOTE]Where did you see this, I know of the outside cameras for security of course but inside the place which wouldn't surprise me but never in the rooms, have you seen cameras in the rooms, if so what AMP and where was the cameras places on the inside?
[QUOTE=Lowlys One; 1663377]Where did you see this, I know of the outside cameras for security of course but inside the place which wouldn't surprise me but never in the rooms, have you seen cameras in the rooms, if so what AMP and where was the cameras places on the inside? [/QUOTE]I don't remember which AMP, but there were twice I can see myself on the monitor when I was inside the AMP, most of the AMP have camera by the entrance and waiting area, don't know if they have camera inside the room though, lets hope not. At 7 and Asia Spa, they have the monitor set up in the ladies waiting area.
[QUOTE=RadioHazard;1661453]Yep I saw the same thing at ward. Even Seven & Ginza. Was weak. I was thinking with probowl coming up they would be fully stocked. VIP had the best lineup but probably the worst and smallest I had seen ever seen there, still better than all the other places. Mini Mia. Million & Jules was there but Million got taken just before I arrived. A couple other avg looking korean girls and 2 white girls.[/QUOTE]I did some window shopping at the stores on Ward too. Ghost towns, all of them. Was day mongering so that was partly the reason.
Tokyos no girls out front. Donna and K for sale. Mama said K is a new girl, but I know her from Top Floor as Michelle.
Swan no girls out front. Mama cooking in the kitchen by herself and says only new girl Yuki available. I remember that Yuki is the Yuki from MF aka Yoyo from Pink who I've already been with, so I passed. Mama offers lunch, nice of her, but I am on a mission here.
GQ no one out front, no mama, no girls. I sit down on the couch for a minute and do some heavy petting with Lucky. No mama came out so I moved on.
Pongi only new girl Vivian smoking cig. Her BP ad is up in the Pongi thread. Not good looking IMO so pass.
Checked out Kison too. Mama says the youngin Bobbi will not be returning to work here. New girls Keiko and Mink both busy so did not meet them.
Decided to head to Roses. Good place for the day monger.
CHOICE!
Have question why do the Ambrosia Spa ads reference Golden Butterfly and the Golden Butterfly ads and YouTube video reference Ambrosia. The video link does not work any more at least for me. I sure the answer is what I am thinking but I have to ask.
Also any advice for over 40 medium build MILF?
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Inda
Exactly which AMPs has securities cams pointed inside?
Most all have outside cameras. Which AMPs have them pointed at us?
All of us want to know.
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1663377]Where did you see this, I know of the outside cameras for security of course but inside the place which wouldn't surprise me but never in the rooms, have you seen cameras in the rooms, if so what AMP and where was the cameras places on the inside?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1663377]Where did you see this, I know of the outside cameras for security of course but inside the place which wouldn't surprise me but never in the rooms, have you seen cameras in the rooms, if so what AMP and where was the cameras places on the inside?[/QUOTE]I think he means the set-up. Like at 7 or Nirvana, where the security computers are in the lobby. I don't think many, if any, places have cameras inside the rooms, shower rooms, etc. That'd be dangerous, exposing providers and mongers to solicitation charges upon issuance of a search warrant.
[QUOTE=Oldie81;1661146]Hilarious. I just recognize one session is like one month of plate lunch. So when I get a junk session I realize I just blew one month of plate lunch out the window. Start cookimg lunch at home for myself and it slows down my sessions real quick.[/QUOTE]Old school credit union junk hours no ATM. I live far away from them keep a monger budget for 2x a month. Extra goes to Credit Union. I would never drive all the way their to get $$ to screw. Just my opinion spending is in check.
[QUOTE=WraithOfGod;1663496]I think he means the set-up. Like at 7 or Nirvana, where the security computers are in the lobby. I don't think many, if any, places have cameras inside the rooms, shower rooms, etc. That'd be dangerous, exposing providers and mongers to solicitation charges upon issuance of a search warrant.[/QUOTE]Exactly. There are more places with security system set up inside by the lobby, where you can see yourself and the girls from the lobby system monitor, I guess in a way its good to have it there to protect the girls from rude and drunken clients, most of the system these days have the capability of recording footage into the hard drive up to a month, let say if the place is raided or a crime is committed, LE will have a month long of footage of the mongers that were there, they could sort them out and call them in for questioning or testifying.
Don't know if they have camera set up inside the rooms, probably not, but you just never knows.
[QUOTE=Inda719; 1663478]Have question why do the Ambrosia Spa ads reference Golden Butterfly and the Golden Butterfly ads and YouTube video reference Ambrosia. The video link does not work any more at least for me. I sure the answer is what I am thinking but I have to ask.
Also any advice for over 40 medium build MILF?
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Inda[/QUOTE]My understanding is these spas are owned by the same person. And Ambrosia was busted recently and things are hectic at the moment.
[QUOTE=WraithOfGod;1663496]I think he means the set-up. Like at 7 or Nirvana, where the security computers are in the lobby. I don't think many, if any, places have cameras inside the rooms, shower rooms, etc. That'd be dangerous, exposing providers and mongers to solicitation charges upon issuance of a search warrant.[/QUOTE]If the camera is just for the convenience of MS to avoid opening the door for armed robbers, or delay entry of LEO by looking and not recording (I. E. Memoryless system) , then who gives a rip.
If the system is recording you, then I see cause for concern, such that you could have unintended consequences when patronizing their business if something fishy occurs while you happen to be there (I. E. Material witness, or vilified publicly if the people making their stand against "sex slavery" got a hold of the footage). In that case, I would definitely avoid the premises. Appreciate anyone on the board who is "sit down and eat kim-chee" freindly with the MS or providers, or otherwise knowledgeable to out any AMP that has memory system recorded video being archived.
My 2cents.
-W
[QUOTE=Wulfen; 1664210]If the camera is just for the convenience of MS to avoid opening the door for armed robbers, or delay entry of LEO by looking and not recording (I. E. Memoryless system) , then who gives a rip.
If the system is recording you, then I see cause for concern, such that you could have unintended consequences when patronizing their business if something fishy occurs while you happen to be there (I. E. Material witness, or vilified publicly if the people making their stand against "sex slavery" got a hold of the footage). In that case, I would definitely avoid the premises. Appreciate anyone on the board who is "sit down and eat kim-chee" freindly with the MS or providers, or otherwise knowledgeable to out any AMP that has memory system recorded video being archived.
My 2cents.
W[/QUOTE]Doesn't Century Center have cameras all over? Plus have a record of those who visit after 10pm?
What is the matter with everyone? Cameras are much to do about nothing for the customers. Why is everyone paranoid? Worry about something real, like spending more than you can afford on the hobby.
"Originally Posted by DickTracy25 [View Original Post]
Why are so many AMP have security camera installed on the outside and inside of the facility? What is the purpose of it? Aren't the Johns be possibly exposed if the place is raided."
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1663377]Where did you see this, I know of the outside cameras for security of course but inside the place which wouldn't surprise me but never in the rooms, have you seen cameras in the rooms, if so what AMP and where was the cameras places on the inside?[/QUOTE]Did you know not all mongers and providers are angels.
Sometimes mongers stiffs the provider with tips and some even goes to the point of pick pocketing providers and MS from provider money and house fees. MS has a mug shot of those kinds of guys and knows not to service them any longer. They usually don't call LE. Hmmmm.
Sometimes providers stiff MS from the house fee. As you know whenever a mongers makes an appointment they write it in a book. Once in a while a provider would walk a monger in, not write it in the book and not give the house fee to the house. Many providers through the years has been let go because of this reason. Camera and books don't match. Think if they stiff the house 50 times a month, it adds up.
One point about raids, sometimes LE is there for tax purposes. They are checking to see if they are paying the proper taxes. Remember MS has to also pay rent, insurance, utilities (which most places are 1. 5K. 5K per month for electricity).
[QUOTE=Buster50;1664250]Doesn't Century Center have cameras all over? Plus have a record of those who visit after 10pm?[/QUOTE]That is an affirmative so are many other AMP, so don't walk around naked when you out of your room, you might be on candid camera.
At 7 they have the security montior set up at the lobby, I took a look at it, it has 16 little blocks showing 16 different views. Don't forget to SMILE, cause you might be on one of the block.