Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Falken;1357885]HJs are pretty damn safe. If you research online, you'll find out that your odds of getting an STD from an HJ are next to none. To say that they are only "slightly safer" than other options is completely false. It's not 100% risk free but we're talking 99. 9% risk free here.[/QUOTE]If you judge "safety" simply as "not getting a SEXUALLY transmitted disease". Your statement is factual. However, if total safety. As in safety from non-sexually tansmitted disease, safety from arrest, safety from assult or safety from exposure of activities. HJs are not at all safe.

A while back a establishment in the region was busted. As an aside, they had been secretly videotaping clients with therapists. I have NO DOUBT there is video, in the hands of law enforcement, of me receiving a HJ.

So, please tell me again how "safe"HJs are. Because I know I didn't feel safe for quite a long time.

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1358086]If you judge "safety" simply as "not getting a SEXUALLY transmitted disease". Your statement is factual. However, if total safety. As in safety from non-sexually tansmitted disease, safety from arrest, safety from assult or safety from exposure of activities. HJs are not at all safe.

A while back a establishment in the region was busted. As an aside, they had been secretly videotaping clients with therapists. I have NO DOUBT there is video, in the hands of law enforcement, of me receiving a HJ.

So, please tell me again how "safe"HJs are. Because I know I didn't feel safe for quite a long time.[/QUOTE]He was obviously talking about a sexually transmitted disease. And BTW I don't think the feds are going to show up at your doorstep over your hand job.

Theres risk in everything. No need to panic about an insanely low risk of getting arrested for paying for a HJ. I can't recall one time I've read of a john getting busted for getting a HJ in a parlor. The parlors themselves rarely get "busted," as most just get their license revoked. Much simpler and cheaper for the city. So stope causing worry about things where there is close to none, or else start worrying about your car accident chances, which are probably an order of magnitude liklier than the cops ticketing you for getting jerked off by a mid 30s asian mom.

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1358086]If you judge "safety" simply as "not getting a SEXUALLY transmitted disease". Your statement is factual. However, if total safety. As in safety from non-sexually tansmitted disease, safety from arrest, safety from assult or safety from exposure of activities. HJs are not at all safe.

A while back a establishment in the region was busted. As an aside, they had been secretly videotaping clients with therapists. I have NO DOUBT there is video, in the hands of law enforcement, of me receiving a HJ.

So, please tell me again how "safe"HJs are. Because I know I didn't feel safe for quite a long time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IcedOut;1358189]He was obviously talking about a sexually transmitted disease. And BTW I don't think the feds are going to show up at your doorstep over your hand job.[/QUOTE]He never qualified his question about safety.

I am not worried about the Feds. Was much more worried about state or local fuzz.

[QUOTE=Mj138;1357387]Saw her, mediocre massage, her presentation is better than the product, asked for $$. Too much.[/QUOTE]Received a great massage from her. And her price was the same as all the others in there, I would def visit her again. I'm thinking she's Filipino.

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955]A while back a establishment in the region was busted. As an aside, they had been secretly videotaping clients with therapists. I have NO DOUBT there is video, in the hands of law enforcement, of me receiving a HJ.[/QUOTE]Unless they also have you saying "I'd like to offer you money in exchange for a hand job" there's not much to worry about. Smartest gal was at one place where the subject never came up, although she took care of me. I then tipped her appropriately at the end. I never offered money for sex, and she never offered sex for money. She gave me a handy because she liked me, and I gave her a tip because she gave a good massage. Even if the whole thing had been videotaped, there were no laws broken. Play the whole thing for a judge and he'll laugh it out of court.

[QUOTE=George W. Bush;1358869]Unless they also have you saying "I'd like to offer you money in exchange for a hand job" there's not much to worry about. Smartest gal was at one place where the subject never came up, although she took care of me. I then tipped her appropriately at the end. I never offered money for sex, and she never offered sex for money. She gave me a handy because she liked me, and I gave her a tip because she gave a good massage. Even if the whole thing had been videotaped, there were no laws broken. Play the whole thing for a judge and he'll laugh it out of court.[/QUOTE]That is unless the gal is under more serious charges and "wants to testify" for a reduced charge or is a gal who may be in the country on either a work visa or illegally (not unheard of in the massage business) and doesn't want to get deported.

Looking for a black girl for a massage.

Can any body help out?

[QUOTE=George W. Bush;1358869] Play the whole thing for a judge and he'll laugh it out of court.[/QUOTE]Which would be cold comfort for someone once their family, friends and current and future employers hear get a chance to read about it or view the tape.

As the guy on the tape, I am not cavalier about it. Based on some of the slightly freaked out PMs I have gotten from a number of you perverts, it would seem I am not the only one.

Having said all that. That does not keep me from hobbying!

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955; 1358304]He never qualified his question about safety.

I am not worried about the Feds. Was much more worried about state or local fuzz.[/QUOTE]I think when the original question "are HJs safe" the assumption was regarding contracting an STD. The same way as if I asked, is going bareback safe? I am sure the assumption from my fellow hobbyists about my question, is regarding the likelihood of getting an STD from intercourse without a condom. I am also sure the response would be about how high risk and dangerous it would be and how I would very likely catch any number of STD's and what I fool I was for even thinking about it. I do not think the common response would be that I could be video taped and arrested. According to the medical web sites, if you catch any STD from a HJ you are about the most unluckiest monger in the world. If you are worried about the legal risk and possible embarrassment, I would say those are definite concerns but I think If you are that paranoid about it, this hobby is not for you.

Regarding the post where LE forces the AMP provider to setup a sting or else get deported, seems like the stuff of movies, lot of effort for a misdemeanor crime. Generally speaking from all the news stories I read it goes like this. Cop goes to AMP one or more times, eventually provider offers HJ for $, cop makes an arrest. Eventually AMP place closes due to community legal pressure, but no mongers arrested. If anyone is ever in the unlikely situation where an AMP is raided, do not admit to anything accept a massage. This may sound obvious, but in those situations people tend to panic and become overly cooperative thinking if they are totally honest with police things will go better, they won't. Keep calm and remember, LE is there to make as many arrests as possible, so don't panic and get all blabby about how this is the first time, you have not done anything like this before and promise not to do it again.

Bottom line: Handjobs in and of themselves are safe. There is a small LE risk, but I think most of us have figured that out.

[QUOTE=Nighthawk1955;1358086]"A while back a establishment in the region was busted. As an aside, they had been secretly videotaping clients with therapists. I have NO DOUBT there is video, in the hands of law enforcement, of me receiving a HJ."[/QUOTE]Dang, that is stressful. Which place was busted and videotaped?

[QUOTE=ChiHappiness;1354893]I had one give me her real name when she offered to exchanged numbers. I was flattered, but have since thought that it was another tactic to get you to feel a connection and thus get money from you.[/QUOTE]Over the years I've come across real names for a number of reasons: by accident, a development of trust, school, when help is needed, etc. And, of course, the occasional newspaper article. The funniest scenario was back in the day when CL was an active marketplace. I posted in the ad section requesting a review of a provider. Within a short amount of time my email box received five or six glowing "reviews" of this girl. All of the reviews came from Yahoo email addresses. The really funny part was that the moronic provider, who sent the reviews using male aliases, accidentally sent one of the positive reviews from her personal Yahoo account.

I'll admit to meeting her, but obviously not because of the reviews. I Googled her name and found that she appeared on a television show. So I was curious. Long story short, the appointment was one of the worst I've ever had. She was cute but paranoid, totally unskilled and kind of boring. She had no business being in the business. I received a follow-up email from her that was really seductive. However, during the session, she was so disinterested and cold and had so many rules, I couldn't justify a return visit.

[QUOTE=Chi Troll;1359937]Dang, that is stressful. Which place was busted and videotaped?[/QUOTE]This was the VIP Spa on Milwaukee Ave awhile back.

[QUOTE=Sexshooter;1360097]This was the VIP Spa on Milwaukee Ave awhile back.[/QUOTE]Been there many times in the old days. Thank god I look very different now in my new life.

[QUOTE=Cracker; 1359614]I think when the original question "are HJs safe" the assumption was regarding contracting an STD. The same way as if I asked, is going bareback safe? I am sure the assumption from my fellow hobbyists about my question, is regarding the likelihood of getting an STD from intercourse without a condom. I am also sure the response would be about how high risk and dangerous it would be and how I would very likely catch any number of STD's and what I fool I was for even thinking about it. I do not think the common response would be that I could be video taped and arrested. According to the medical web sites, if you catch any STD from a HJ you are about the most unluckiest monger in the world. If you are worried about the legal risk and possible embarrassment, I would say those are definite concerns but I think If you are that paranoid about it, this hobby is not for you.

Regarding the post where LE forces the AMP provider to setup a sting or else get deported, seems like the stuff of movies, lot of effort for a misdemeanor crime. Generally speaking from all the news stories I read it goes like this. Cop goes to AMP one or more times, eventually provider offers HJ for $, cop makes an arrest. Eventually AMP place closes due to community legal pressure, but no mongers arrested. If anyone is ever in the unlikely situation where an AMP is raided, do not admit to anything accept a massage. This may sound obvious, but in those situations people tend to panic and become overly cooperative thinking if they are totally honest with police things will go better, they won't. Keep calm and remember, LE is there to make as many arrests as possible, so don't panic and get all blabby about how this is the first time, you have not done anything like this before and promise not to do it again.

Bottom line: Handjobs in and of themselves are safe. There is a small LE risk, but I think most of us have figured that out.[/QUOTE]I may have posted this before, but here goes. Some years back the county cops busted an AMP on Cicero Ave, I belive in Oak Forest. After carting away the workers, they used one of their female officers (the oriental one) to just stay in the establishment and when customers would come in and inevitably ask for a sex act, would bust them. I know of that one instance because I know someone busted in it. Don't know if it was done again.