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I'm a A. B. E. Girl and if you have not used our service don't knock it until you try it. I have alot of clients and they all leave me happy and I have never had any complaints I make all my clients feel comfortable they are my main concern. So before you post bogus ads you need to try are service!
I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge of an agency / website called secret sins? I believe they are in Greenville, IN. I came across their website and then an e-mail from a provider about their private location.
[QUOTE=Toytiger]In my above post, I'm referring to the "escort" side of the business. The rub downs are 75[/QUOTE]A comment about a "side" of the business you've never used? You were clearly talking about the "rub down" (amazing language) side of the business and were unaware (of most things generally, but in this case certainly particularly) that A.B.E provides several different adult entertainment services.
Face it, Toy; you're trolling. For whom or what business we can only guess. You have been weighed, measured and found wanting.
And you will for a long time, I suspect.
I don't have anything vested in either side of the discussion, but I'm sure those many of us in the middle of the 2 opposing sides that are trying to utilize this site for its intended purpose would appreciate not having to cut a swathe through the flames between A.B.E. spokesfolks and those not appreciating their business model.
Just asking, because the last flame war made me want to go don my former fire gear and douse both sides with crash foam for an hour.
Agree to disagree, take it to a non-used thread and flame the heck out of it, but don't bog down the main info lines to call each other names... please?
Thanks in advance. :)
Jay
I couldn't agree more. Well said Ky Guy
[QUOTE=Ky Guy 123]I don't have anything vested in either side of the discussion, but I'm sure those many of us in the middle of the 2 opposing sides that are trying to utilize this site for its intended purpose would appreciate not having to cut a swathe through the flames between A. B. E. Spokesfolks and those not appreciating their business model.
Just asking, because the last flame war made me want to go don my former fire gear and douse both sides with crash foam for an hour.
Agree to disagree, take it to a non-used thread and flame the heck out of it, but don't bog down the main info lines to call each other names. Please?
Thanks in advance.
Jay[/QUOTE]
I was looking for some more recent info on Honey. I did a search and there isn't really anything of value to report in the last year or so.
Always wanted to visit her but wanted to know what to expect first. Please feel free to PM.
PS - I echo Ky Guy 123's comments below.
There is plenty to go around. I know I could 3 or 4 times a day. I believe I will try and use every service out there until I die! (smiles)
I heard there is a Greeneville Indiana outfit. I'd like to know more.
Someone should just buy a house and call it a club and let what happens happen as long as everyone is safe and considerate. I'd pay for that.
Hahahahahahahahaha.... oh now THERE's an image. ;)
Thanks Pie, I needed that laugh today (meant in the nicest of ways.. it's been a seriously long, long, LONG day)
[QUOTE=Sluttypie]Yes the main info lines are indeed getting bogged down with this drivel.
But Jay you should still don your old fire gear and come and hose me down for about and hour or so.
Shameless Self Promoting Pie.[/QUOTE]
....that's right.
[QUOTE=Sunycide]I was looking for some more recent info on Honey. I did a search and there isn't really anything of value to report in the last year or so.
Always wanted to visit her but wanted to know what to expect first. Please feel free to PM.
PS - I echo Ky Guy 123's comments below.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to the WSW (Honey) who works the Taylor Blvd area south of the Watterson?
[QUOTE=Newrules01]Are you referring to the WSW (Honey) who works the Taylor Blvd area south of the Watterson?[/QUOTE]
No, but thanks for asking. I received the information I was looking for.
[QUOTE=Abe Girl Vicky]Hello everyone! I wanted to introduce myself to the members of the forums. I'm Vicky, and I work with a terrific escort service here in Louisville called a beautiful escort, Incorporated. We're the newest escort team in the city, but we are working hard to provide high-quality service to our friends in Louisville and the surrounding counties.
Look us up at our website: [url]http://www.abeautifulescort.net[/url]
We hope to meet many of you soon, and wish everyone the best of success and fun this weekend (smile!)
-Vicky[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ky Guy 123]I don't have anything vested in either side of the discussion, but I'm sure those many of us in the middle of the 2 opposing sides that are trying to utilize this site for its intended purpose would appreciate not having to cut a swathe through the flames between A.B.E. spokesfolks and those not appreciating their business model.
Just asking, because the last flame war made me want to go don my former fire gear and douse both sides with crash foam for an hour.
Agree to disagree, take it to a non-used thread and flame the heck out of it, but don't bog down the main info lines to call each other names... please?
Thanks in advance. :)
Jay[/QUOTE]
I agree with Ky Guy 123. We get enough drama at home. The last number any of us would call is 1-800-DRAMA.
While I welcome all new players to the scene, I hope this is not like a new service that opened in Indianapolis a couple of years ago. It mixed FS escorts in with dancers masquerading as FS escorts and got messy. I hope this is not more of that.
Been wanting to see her since the bikini photos she posted a while back but stayed away due the bad reviews of her place. Now she moves to the new place... Anyone else thinkin of staying away because the "Escort" thing? I am ok with going to the "massage/body rub" places but not sure I want anything to do with that.I dreamed the new LMT/boby rub girl over on Presten. Red/blondish hair.Thin and fit girl.Ok dream.. Would repeat after working my way thru the others I see.
These flame wars. Why do people start them and why do we seem to think that we need them. One thing I adore about Platinum Pink is that she does not hide who she is or what she thinks. I admire people who don't hide behind their anonymity.
The thing that concerned me a great deal about the initial criticisms of ABE was that much was said without people actually seeing the ladies. To me, places need to be reviewed or critiqued based on simple criteria. Do they offer the expected services and do they do so without upselling?
From what I am seeing, ABE offers $75 body rubs and $150 escort services. What percentage the lady receives off this is none of my business. That is between her and the place she is working for. Everyone woman is paying something, be it rent on her own place, or rent (or percentage) to whoever owns the business. If a person goes to ABE and pays their money, and gets what they paid for, for that fee, then fine. It's a simple business transaction. If there is an upsell to end things happily, then they can be called out. For the $75 I would expect the standard manual release, for the $150, there are other options. If the rate are not accurate than call them out; if they are accurate, they are doing business honestly and should be treated accordingly.
To be, there are two reasons to be harsh on a provider. A lack of service, or upselling.
To me, criticizing a lady's looks is unfair unless it's a bait and switch. I see ladies whose pictures I have seen. Unless the pictures are old, surprise, surprise, they look like the pictures. If I determine I find them unattractive in person, that's my business and not necessary to share in a public forum. I just don't go back. Or, if I don't like their technique, I don't go back. As long as they provide the services and don't upsell, it's a simple thing.
A lot of us go out there and have fun. I do so very infrequently and take long stretches of time off. I'd be of the 'fat and ugly' variety, but I have a nice personality and am unfailingly polite. My experience with ladies has been mostly great. Most times, if not all that great, I don't say a whole lot. I've never been turned down for repeat visits and I don't bash other ladies with whomever I am seeing. Frankly, I have heard very, very little provider bashing from ladies as well and very little client bashing from ladies either. The thing that most of the ladies struggle with the most is rudeness from their clients. If we are polite, they will tolerate a lot.
Frankly, I hope everyone does well and plays safe. As for ABE, I wish them nothing but the best, in hopes they are an honest and above board place. I presume they are unless they are proven to be otherwise.
I think Jake pretty much has it right, if you don't like what you are seeing in Vicky or her place, ABE, don't use them. It is not like in a week or two reports won't start popping about about ABE confirming or refuting people's original assumptions about the place.
A week or so ago I e-mailed a question to Vicky about how things work at ABE and in the back and forth between the two of us I feel a good rapport was made and feel comfortable with her. I know of one of the ladies working there and she is great so I can't imagine the negative assumptions here being true. I most likely will swing by and visit in the next week or so once time allows it.
[QUOTE=Bill Peters]Been wanting to see her since the bikini photos she posted a while back but stayed away due the bad reviews of her place. Now she moves to the new place... Anyone else thinkin of staying away because the "Escort" thing? I am ok with going to the "massage/body rub" places but not sure I want anything to do with that.I dreamed the new LMT/boby rub girl over on Presten. Red/blondish hair.Thin and fit girl.Ok dream.. Would repeat after working my way thru the others I see.[/QUOTE]I visited Talis and Katie when they were at Fern Valley for the 4 hands massage. The Massage was ok and it was toppless, but that was about it. I was allowed to really touch them and there definetly was no extras. She is a pretty girl, but if I was you I wouldn't waiste my money unless you're just looking for a massage by a pretty girl.
I wonder if talas give the maunul release at the new place?
Does not seem worth $75 if not.
[QUOTE=Newrules01]I visited Talis and Katie when they were at Fern Valley for the 4 hands massage. The Massage was ok and it was toppless, but that was about it. I was allowed to really touch them and there definetly was no extras. She is a pretty girl, but if I was you I wouldn't waiste my money unless you're just looking for a massage by a pretty girl.[/QUOTE]
I am going to get on my soapbox for a few minutes here.
We all need to treat each other with respect. We all want something that the other [person has to offer. We are not here to judge each other, as all of us are just as "guilty" as the next person. We are all adults; we can skip the name calling.
Guys, we need to treat the providers as you would any other lady. Nothing beyond the advertised service should be expected. If something more occurs, that is between you and the lady. We should tip for extraordinary service, just like you would tip your wait staff at a restaurant. Any review submitted, should be factual.
Ladies, you need to have good customer service skills. You need to provide the agreed upon services and the agreed upon time, that the client paid for. Tips should not be expected nor solicited.
Guys, if you don't like the price they are charging go to a different provider. If the service is lousy, go to a different provider. They will not stay in business long if they don't have customers.
Ladies, most of us guys have limited discretionary funds. Keep your prices reasonable, your service good and you will be able to establish a good customer base.
Bottom line is we need each other. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Yes I have a thing for trailer parks. I wanted to know if there was in action in the parks around here. I drive for work so any info on Meade or Hardin counties would be great too.
[QUOTE=Davis Cup3]Yes I have a thing for trailer parks. I wanted to know if there was in action in the parks around here. I drive for work so any info on Meade or Hardin counties would be great too.[/QUOTE]Not for sure in those counties but there use to be action in the tralior park off Taylor Blvd across from Iroqouis High School.
Did a search for Cady and got no info. Anybody seen her? PM if you like.
[url]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/s-p-a-o-f-o-n-e/2295073[/url]
Has anyone on the forum ever visited this provider? I've been curious, her site has some interesting services. Thanks for helping out a newb.
[QUOTE=Ronald Raymond][url]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/s-p-a-o-f-o-n-e/2295073[/url]
Has anyone on the forum ever visited this provider? I've been curious, her site has some interesting services. Thanks for helping out a newb.[/QUOTE]
I suggest that you visit her. There have been numerous postings on this site about her.
Just an FYI gentlement. Lanny and Lacey no longer work with ABE.
Heard it straight from Lacey.
[QUOTE=Scoresman]I'm going to clear the air here or maybe start some shit all over again but fuck it. The girls working for ABE are chicks that have worked around this city for quite some time now and for the most part the girls have less than good reviews. All ABE is doing is changing there working names and promoting them like they are some kind of rock stars, not a wise move. These dumb hoes are even on youtube now "promoting" or whatever. The best girls hardly ever advertise because they don't need to. I noticed Alix/Esacada is one of their girls and she's always had bad reviews and been and upsell and do nothing hoe. Talas is another with a great face and body but all bad reviews. There are only a couple of the girls who have any type of good review, Lexi and Lanny and Lacey and I kind of feel bad for them because now they are being drug down into the company of bad providers and rip off hoes. I'm really not sure why they felt it was necessary to pay someone else a cut of the money they earn, it's not like they didn't already have ads on bp and cl everyday. Maybe these girls don't know that chicks they are working with are bullshit. I guess the point is agency equals less money for the girl, unnecessary heat, and a lower working standard. For example we all know here that Lexi/Angie is a great girl but if you met up with Talas from ABE first you'd most likely never use the service again, therefore Lexi/Angie is losing money because her fellow employees don't work up to the same standard as she does. I think this ABE thing is going to bite a few hoes in the ass as well.[/QUOTE]
Further FYI,
Angie (provider formally known as Lexi) no longer works at A.B.E either. Add that departure to Lanny and Lacey and the best 3 girls there left. Sounds like A.B.E is truly going places (down).
Wondering if anyone has any info on a girl that went by Jessi or sometimes Jessi James she used to work at carlas place on Preston along with Jami who still advertises. Would love some info thanks
[QUOTE=Ronald Raymond][url]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/s-p-a-o-f-o-n-e/2295073[/url]
Has anyone on the forum ever visited this provider? I've been curious, her site has some interesting services. Thanks for helping out a newb.[/QUOTE]Absolutely nothing wrong with a visit there. BBW, but not too big and loads of fun.
Went to ABE and the other night andwnet for the half hour for $75. Asked what my optiosn were and was told body rub/massage or dancing. I opted for a body rub/massage and finish the session with a dance. I received a body rub/massage that lasted for a little more than a half hour. I was feeling relaxed but not happy. Instead os spending an additional $75 for the hour and not sure I would be any happier I left.
The place was nice and the girls were friendly but not exactly what I was expecting. After seeing all of the posts, not sure I will try again. My visit was befor all of the recent posts.
[QUOTE=Toytiger]Further FYI,
Angie (provider formally known as Lexi) no longer works at A.B.E either. Add that departure to Lanny and Lacey and the best 3 girls there left. Sounds like A.B.E is truly going places (down).[/QUOTE]It seems these girls have been jumping around alot,in my past experience this usually says more about the girl than the plaace..when they jump around its for a reason,and usually not a good one,if you notice the good providers stay with same office most of the time.thats just my opinion.
Here is what the fuss is all about, everyone. As of the time of this post, each and every one of the ladies listed here are with the company. ALL of them. Check to see who you recognize and contact them directly if you need verification.
No name changes, no games, just great service.
[url]http://louisville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/ViewImage?oid=2194759&image=2303319[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvMih8lZj8"[/url]
i[QUOTE=Spermanherman]Went to ABE and the other night andwnet for the half hour for $75. Asked what my optiosn were and was told body rub/massage or dancing. I opted for a body rub/massage and finish the session with a dance. I received a body rub/massage that lasted for a little more than a half hour. I was feeling relaxed but not happy. Instead os spending an additional $75 for the hour and not sure I would be any happier I left.
The place was nice and the girls were friendly but not exactly what I was expecting. After seeing all of the posts, not sure I will try again. My visit was befor all of the recent posts.[/QUOTE]Which of the ABE ladies did you get the massage from?
[QUOTE=TheDipper13]It seems these girls have been jumping around alot, in my past experience this usually says more about the girl than the plaace. When they jump around its for a reason, and usually not a good one, if you notice the good providers stay with same office most of the time. Thats just my opinion.[/QUOTE]. Ok. Hi guys, this is my first time posting. I haven't been working lately because one of my best friends died last month, my father just passed last week, and my cousin decides to take his own life the day of my fathers funeral. As for the whole "ABE" bullshit. I have only been to the location one time. And I think I have a pretty legitimate reason for my absence from the "work world" lately. Yes, I did a photoshoot with ABE, but have only done one outcall since being with them. I have been working for myself out of my own spot pretty much ever since I started, and as of right now, I plan to keep it that way. Lacey and I both. She is my best friend and my roommate, and she is sitting right next to me.
This whole arguing over the internet is like a retard running in the Olympics. So please guys, grow up.
If you want to make an appointment with either of us. Then just call. We both have ads posted on BP.
[QUOTE=Toytiger]Further FYI,
Angie (provider formally known as Lexi) no longer works at A.B.E either. Add that departure to Lanny and Lacey and the best 3 girls there left. Sounds like A.B.E is truly going places (down).[/QUOTE]Well i have to agree with toytiger Lexi no longer working for A.B.E is a blessing she i would have to say is the best around and.With her departure from there all i can say for her is congrats now i will see her more she is go good of a lady and nice to be working there.She dont need anyones help to make her look good she can do it all on her own. Like i said before i have seen her a few times now and and her body combined with her body rub is the best out there at least what i have seen and been too.Even seen her when she was with A.B.E. and she did not seem happy at all there like there was to much drama there. So with all that said guys you have to take a chance on her believe me you will want to go back cause the body rub is great and her body and her sweet charm is even better now that she has left there you will see the best side of her so go see her. Toytiger you are right about them truly going places (down) cause there best person has left the building (Lexi).
Hey ladies,
Do you all do a 4 hand hour? If so how much? I'll call you later this week.
Bassmaster planning a Bachelor party. I suggested inviting fellow mongers. PM bassmaster if interested. SR members only or those I have met before. If there is enough interest, we will rent a place. Everyone needs to pitch in for the rent. If not enough people, we will just have a private party.
Has anyone seen the new girl at Tracys?
Not tying to butt in where i don't belong but please be careful with the monger parties guys. it is a primo bust situation for LEO if they find out about it.
[url]http://sachakinksky.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/ohio-johns-caught-in-online-hooker-raffle/[/url]
Dreamed about Toni.
One of the best around.
Very pretty in person and has a nice location.
[QUOTE=Nkykinkyguy]Not tying to butt in where i don't belong but please be careful with the monger parties guys. it is a primo bust situation for LEO if they find out about it.
[url]http://sachakinksky.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/ohio-johns-caught-in-online-hooker-raffle/[/url][/QUOTE]It is cool to be careful but we had done this before a few years back. Only Sr Members that I know will be invited. We just want to know if this is viable.
I would be very suspicious of this email. Uncle may be involved, but seems to not be Uncle's style most of the time. But anyway, I would avoid this one. It does not give me a "warm and fuzzy" feeling. JMHO.
[QUOTE=Sluttypie]An email I recieved and did not reply to...any thoughts?
"I would love to see you this Evening. I am here Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday Evening. I would like a half hour session. I am in Zip Code 40205 and I am available during the week. I love massages full nude with full release or full service or bathing. Leave your phone number or Yahoo Messenger ID and best time to contact you or I can call you through Yahoo Messenger at *******. I have 50 roses available for you right now for your shortest possible session and 75 roses for an Hour Session. I would like you to come between 9 PM and 10:30 PM. My number is 502-895-7707 extension 3486 ask for Mr. Clark room 116 for 4 nights."
First of all, wtf is with all the explicit language...Second, my rates are on my page and I do not get them dictated to me. This seems to me to be a mass Uncle email to BP girls...I could be wrong this "Mr Clark" could just be a drunk on the Chateau de Dummass but I have never recieved an email like this and am curious what others think of this. If any providers reading this have recieved this email your input would be appreciated.
Also when I got this email he stated that he wanted to see me "this Evening" then goes on with the rest of the spiel and then at the end he says he wanted me there between 9-1030 when I got the email it was 10:15pm. Further lending more shady-ness to it...hmmmm.
Again, thoughts?[/QUOTE]