OK this is just one point
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4829267]I'm going to assume you aren't any sort of health professional (or scholar since you don't know what punctuation and paragraphs look like) but you speak with a certainty that's interesting. Then you devolve into who you voted for as if that matters about the corona virus.
You act as if the lives lost to the pandemic were simply inevitable when you make those comparisons. There's plenty of studies (none that you've read) that show that our failure to act early probably contributed and extra 30 K+ deaths.
I thought about spending time refuting your points individually, but it's tiresome. What I'd like you do is go start hugging everyone you know that thinks like you. I see this as an opportunity to Darwin our way out of some stupid fucking shit.[/QUOTE]Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?
There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.
Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.
What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.
Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;4829880]Exactly how did it "save" lives? I agree that they didn't die then, but what miracle is going to prevent them from dying now? Has a vaccine or viable treatment been discovered? Did staying inside for 3 months confer on them some magical protection? How are the people who would have succumbed to covid in March somehow able to survive it in June, July, or August?
There was one and ONLY one kind of death that shelter in place was supposed to prevent and that was death due to inaccessibility of health care because the health care system was overwhelmed which has never even come close to happening and before you trot out the "unprecedented" cases of doctors practicing in tents in NYC they did exactly the same thing in 2018. There was never going to be two million deaths like Neil "always wrong" Ferguson predicted (same guy who said Sweden would have 75,000 dead by the end of March unless they locked down) ultimatly this was the largest over reaction and demonstration of privilege (just stay home for 3 months, don't be so selfish, you will kill grandma) that I can recall seeing in my life.
Let me put it simply, you, and those who thought like you reacted in fear and insisted on a course of action that has driving a half a billion people back into extreme poverty, and now you want to justify your hysteria with bullshit nonsensical studies. You should be ashamed.
What kind of fallacy are you going to use now? Ad hominum combined with argue from authority worked on the OP. What are you going to use on me? Just make sure you address the. 26% IFR and not 4 or 5 with whichever bullshit you go with.
Also before you assume I'm a Trumpeter, not, life long lefty here.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the clarity and explanation Mr. Admin2. Succinct and to the point using facts and data. I can think of nothing else that needs to be added to this topic that makes it any easier to understand.
What about the head doctor
Speaking of useless doctors, any prospects on good head doctors?
[QUOTE=Worf359;4828107]With all the conflicting information from Doctors from every side the only doctors that I trust are Dr. Seuss and Dr Pepper.[/QUOTE]
I don't normally engage in trolling this page but.
[QUOTE=NuGuy36;4848097]The USA Today is getting closer to the worst-case scenario envisioned in the spring a nationwide crisis, made worse by inept political leadership that threatens to overwhelm hospitals and spread out of control. Who knew?
These two attached graphs encapsulate the USA 's inept response to COVID-19.[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to respond with "Hahahahaha! Ok Boomer".
So your graphs are pretty cool, and anyone that believes what they hear on tv will have their beliefs echo-chambered by your red and black lines. However, in real life, do you know anybody that has been hospitalized by COVID with no other health problems? I haven't. Nor do I know anybody who knows anybody in real life that has.
Secondly, my wife works in the medical industry, currently our local hospital is at 30% capacity. This time last year they were at 60% capacity.
Now that being said if there was a deadly pandemic that is destroying our nation's population wouldn't you think that our local healthcare system would be at or near maximum capacity. Wouldn't you think that we would all know some unfortunate young healthy soul robbed of life by this disease?
It is my opinion that the dangers of COVID are grossly exaggerated and the economic and lifestyle impact caused by the government restrictions are greater than the risk to any of our health.
Educated government Doctors VS Conspiracy nut jobs (high school drop outs)
The educated doctors no nothing I get my medical advice from a guy on the internet. And those 2 CV-19 death funerals I went to had to be staged by Hollywood Liberals. And by the way the earth is flat and Trump is not an idiot that is getting a lot of people killed. When you get done drinking that KOOl-aid or is it foolaid I have a bridge to sell you.
Well, if you really want to know
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4849013]Sooooo, if you uber-smart dipshits don't trust the news, don't trust the papers, don't trust the doctors and don't trust the government, just WHO is this amazing fucking genius you put all your faith in?
You're all so intellectual and know so much more than the rest of us. Can't wait [S]for you all[/S] to change Twitter feeds to Parler.
smdh. lol[/QUOTE]Ourselves, dumbass. Please hide in your basement and never come out again. We can handle things quite nicely without you.